Trading signal group.

[fxVICX]

For me, I have never been a fan of signal groups or copy trade, I believe in going for the knowledge and knowing exactly what i am doing, it makes me believe me decision and take the blame all to myself.
Understanding what you're doing won't just pay off instantly but it will help you become profitable in a long run. It's good to be part of a trading signal group though as it helps you get others perspectives and grow as well.

[Barikui1]

I am aware that many signal groups could be fine for sometimes to build trust before they will pull the rug with pump and dump scam.  I also know that some are legit but are highly priced. Can I have a trading signal group of low fees, it could be free for a start and if there are good testimonies, I don't mind paying some fees.

Actually I am not a big fan of all this trading signals group, because most times those behind the scene as the admin knows very little about trading generally, you will hear of how he made millions on trading, blablabla, but you don't know that what he is using to make his or her money is not through trading, it's most times the traffic they can gather, or those money you guys pays for free signals, that's why majority of all this signal group trading set-up fail miserably, am not saying that it's all of them, few of them are quite good actually but majority of them are using those paying for signals to make money not through trading.

The only advice I can give to you is that you should shun the idea of paying for signals group and look for ways to learn how to trade yourself,  by going for courses that will improve you individually, with time you will know how to do it well, than wasting your hard money on all this signal group.

[BABY SHOES]

I also have no objection to people using trading signals as long as they are provided from a good source. While many are not wrong in saying that most of them are scams, if we are lucky enough we will also find some serious signal groups.

I think there are still serious signals where they give good signals for trading, it's just that we have to understand that signals like this are rarely published but for signals most scams are what I know.

But you are right, the problem is if we continue to stick to this way and just want to depend on others. In the long run, it will make us lazy, more dependent on others and we will never be able to become a real trader.

Why should we rely on trading signals? It will not be an advantage for long... in my opinion where trading signals should not be relied on completely, still we ourselves must improve our skills not just rely on others.

[Joy- maker]

I am aware that many signal groups could be fine for sometimes to build trust before they will pull the rug with pump and dump scam.  I also know that some are legit but are highly priced. Can I have a trading signal group of low fees, it could be free for a start and if there are good testimonies, I don't mind paying some fees.

to be sincere with you, if you only depend on trading signals from groups you will never upgrade in trading, my advice to upcoming traders is to look for better ways to improve their trading techniques and not depend on trading signals from groups, because it won't help you in any way.
When you  develop yourself in trading trust me everything will go well and you will enjoy trading, because you have upgraded yourself to become a knowledgeable trader who is not longer dependent.

[gunhell16]

I also have no objection to people using trading signals as long as they are provided from a good source. While many are not wrong in saying that most of them are scams, if we are lucky enough we will also find some serious signal groups.

I think there are still serious signals where they give good signals for trading, it's just that we have to understand that signals like this are rarely published but for signals most scams are what I know.

But you are right, the problem is if we continue to stick to this way and just want to depend on others. In the long run, it will make us lazy, more dependent on others and we will never be able to become a real trader.

Why should we rely on trading signals? It will not be an advantage for long... in my opinion where trading signals should not be relied on completely, still we ourselves must improve our skills not just rely on others.

That's why it's hard to identify the good signals you're talking about, because all trading signals say they are legit groups on telegram or Discord. That's why many people are still being fooled because those who encourage and deceive their victims to join their signal group are also good at it.

Especially now, many influencers on youtube who just have a little idea about trading already have a telegram channel that is supposedly a signal group for trading,
but if you watch their content and see how they explain it, there are many people who know more about it than they actually do. So still be vigilant to those who will attempt to join.

[BitcoinAI.Pro]

99% of traders lose money, so of course at least 99% channels lose too or are simply scams. And that's why I'm sharing for free ( always free don't worry) my AI Bitcoin signals, and you wish you can donate a small % of your profits. That's all, simple as this.

I don't know what coins you will share in your signal group, if it's only Bitcoin vs Fiat pairs, the free signal you offer is not a problem, what is problematic in my opinion is if it's Bitcoin vs Altcoin or other pairs for low marketcap coins because even though you don't charge a service fee in your signal group but you may already have the coins and are waiting for the person who receives your signal to move the market for your profit.
And also since you said 99% of traders lose money, then how are you sure you can be part of the 1%?

Only BTCUSD. I believe I'm in this 1%, because I have been trading financial markets more than 30 years with profits in the last 15-20, and in the last 5-10 years I have been developing AI neural network based models that performs quite well. Now the BTCUSD model up +70% in 4 months. But of course as everybody says ( and it's true ) past performance doesn't guarantee future performance, nevertheless while the AI model makes profits take it......

[rachael9385]

I am aware that many signal groups could be fine for sometimes to build trust before they will pull the rug with pump and dump scam.  I also know that some are legit but are highly priced. Can I have a trading signal group of low fees, it could be free for a start and if there are good testimonies, I don't mind paying some fees.

I know a lot of people that joined trading signal groups, they all have the same result, the losses that they incur outweighs their profits. It's better to use that money to pay a low priced mentor. Some people think that a trading mentor that charges a low amount of money doesn't really know how to trade but that's just a deceptive thought. It would even surprise you that you might not even benefit much from those experts with high rates. Instead of following signals try as much as possible to understand the market, have your own ideas and develop your trading strategies.

[TheUltraElite]

I know a lot of people that joined trading signal groups, they all have the same result, the losses that they incur outweighs their profits. It's better to use that money to pay a low priced mentor. Some people think that a trading mentor that charges a low amount of money doesn't really know how to trade but that's just a deceptive thought.

This only reinforces what I had said in a previous post.

Humans have the habit of seeing someone as a hero/guru/mentor and become a flock for that person. Manipulative people understand this and eventually you see societies run with governments having politicians being elected in this manner. Similarly signals groups run with this idea and people are only looking for someone to reinforce their thoughts. Trading is not a science and hence this type of mentality is common here.

The moral remains same, learn trading on your own and then execute it. Anyone saying they can help and asking for money is a scammer.

[RockBell]

For me, I have never been a fan of signal groups or copy trade, I believe in going for the knowledge and knowing exactly what i am doing, it makes me believe me decision and take the blame all to myself.
Understanding what you're doing won't just pay off instantly but it will help you become profitable in a long run. It's good to be part of a trading signal group though as it helps you get others perspectives and grow as well.

I don't think I personally like trading groups because the moment you rely on those trading groups you will not be able to amount to anything I don't even believe that you should just stick to yourself because there are a lot of scams out there that if you can not differentiate it will affect you so there is a lot of need to actually make inquiry because true that there is legit once because their people that don't want to stress their self when it comes to trading so the only thing they are relying on is not more than signal groups and the risk is much and a lot of those groups are not free and this is why I am avoiding them.

And even when you are following signals you will not be able to actually contribute and things that can be avoided can no longer be avoided so this is why there is enough reason that you need to learn so that even when you make use of those groups you can easily know the proper measures to put in place and there will be need for improvement because people do not want to improve and business needs to be taking seriously.

[goldkingcoiner]

I am aware that many signal groups could be fine for sometimes to build trust before they will pull the rug with pump and dump scam.  I also know that some are legit but are highly priced. Can I have a trading signal group of low fees, it could be free for a start and if there are good testimonies, I don't mind paying some fees.

Please believe me when I say that all signal groups are scams. You do not want to be part of one. And why would you want to be? The trading and speculation boards on Bitcointalk offer more useful data.

[Cryptmuster]

This only reinforces what I had said in a previous post.

Humans have the habit of seeing someone as a hero/guru/mentor and become a flock for that person. Manipulative people understand this and eventually you see societies run with governments having politicians being elected in this manner. Similarly signals groups run with this idea and people are only looking for someone to reinforce their thoughts. Trading is not a science and hence this type of mentality is common here.

The moral remains same, learn trading on your own and then execute it. Anyone saying they can help and asking for money is a scammer.

The logic in this case is very simple, there is someone who is ready to sell these signals for successful transactions, but in such cases I always have one question, if he is so good that he can find such good signals, then why does he not use them himself, but sells them to other people?

After all, if this were true and he was so good, then he could simply earn as much money on these transactions as he wants, and not try to sell them for money. But people do not want to think to understand this, they think that there is someone who can help them and suggest the best deal, but the truth is that no one will worry about your money as much as you will.

[Lanatsa]

I am aware that many signal groups could be fine for sometimes to build trust before they will pull the rug with pump and dump scam.  I also know that some are legit but are highly priced. Can I have a trading signal group of low fees, it could be free for a start and if there are good testimonies, I don't mind paying some fees.

Please believe me when I say that all signal groups are scams. You do not want to be part of one. And why would you want to be? The trading and speculation boards on Bitcointalk offer more useful data.

Using up your own common sense should be enough for you not to join up with these kind of groups. If they were that profitable in the first place then they wont be wasting up their time on sharing up into what trading ways or methods that they do have. If they have that kind of working strategy then they wont be that wasting their time on teaching out people with just having that small amount that they are that asking into. When it comes into these signals then they are just that simply a random one and if it turned out to be that a profitable or a winning trade then they will be claiming out that they are indeed good. Newbies do easily get hooked up by these things because we are that too greedy at the moment that you do first time to encounter up such condition or situation specially when making up money.

Trading skills could be learned up on your own actually but people are just that too lazy and this is why they do come up with this kind of solution on joining up some with groups that they can be able to follow on.
If its a free one then it might be considerable, but if we do speak about being paid or you are paying up something premium with it then you are just that basically wasting up your money. How to make trading is just that an information that you can be able to get something without needing up to pay up something for those things that you can potentially learned up.

[tvplus006]

I also have no objection to people using trading signals as long as they are provided from a good source. While many are not wrong in saying that most of them are scams, if we are lucky enough we will also find some serious signal groups.

I think there are still serious signals where they give good signals for trading, it's just that we have to understand that signals like this are rarely published but for signals most scams are what I know.

It looks like it's time to subscribe to Trump official account - https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump The last time he gave a buy signal was 3 hours before the suspension of duties for 90 days was announced, after which there was a pump in the stock and cryptocurrency markets - https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114308272725981913

[Alone055]

While all of you saying ALL signal groups ( I agree with most of them are scams ) you are losing the chance to profit from my AI signals for free. Up +80% in 4 months. And I'm only asking for some small BTC donation of your profits if you wish......that's all. Most of you are trying to trade bitcoin on your own, but sadly you will lose money, except probably if you buy and hold months or years.

Okay, I will donate a small amount from the profits that I make from the AI signals you provide, but who will be responsible if I lose money using your signals? You say that you agree most of these signal groups or platforms are fake and scams, but then you promote your service, saying it's free but then asking for a share from the profits, naming it "a small donation".

You should send me $50, and I will make a trade using one of your signals. If I make a profit, I'll send $50 plus 50% of the profits made from the trade, and if I lose the money, I guess there is nothing we can do then. 

[rachael9385]

Look — if a certain individual is actually good with trading, he/she wouldn't be wasting time in handling such a group; regardless if free or paid.

If you don't want to make your own informed decisions with trading and instead want to listen to some random people on the internet, just don't trade. Simple.

Funny enough there's no one that can confidently boast of getting rich from joining trading group because they are a complete waste of time. You can only get good results from trading when you understand it and know how the market works. Subscribing to get signals and still ending up losing both will make you lose more at the long run. In trading the only thing that you should rely on are your own strategies not someone else's.

[hafiztalha]

Look — if a certain individual is actually good with trading, he/she wouldn't be wasting time in handling such a group; regardless if free or paid.

If you don't want to make your own informed decisions with trading and instead want to listen to some random people on the internet, just don't trade. Simple.

Funny enough there's no one that can confidently boast of getting rich from joining trading group because they are a complete waste of time. You can only get good results from trading when you understand it and know how the market works. Subscribing to get signals and still ending up losing both will make you lose more at the long run. In trading the only thing that you should rely on are your own strategies not someone else's.

I think treaders should learn from traders with reputed person because there are thousands of people who are doing scams with name of teaching and in fact they are not teaching anything and they don't know basic knowledge of trading but many people trapped by this because they have no knowledge. Signal group admins only want to make traffic and they are selling their service with money because many people will approach them after joining their group.  People need to learn more before doing trade in cryptocurrency because it could be dangerous at starting point because people will face challenges at the start but with time ,they will learn more and grow more and make portfolio and people will be their students.

[leonair]

I am aware that many signal groups could be fine for sometimes to build trust before they will pull the rug with pump and dump scam.  I also know that some are legit but are highly priced. Can I have a trading signal group of low fees, it could be free for a start and if there are good testimonies, I don't mind paying some fees.

Never join any trading signal group and completely trust the signals there. Because here many times wrong signals are given and they make profit when you lose by entering against you. Especially such groups that give signals with low fees are more dangerous. Always train on your own analysis, you can console yourself even if you lose. It is the biggest foolishness to jump into trading by completely trusting their signals while depending on others. No one can guarantee you profit. And where you do not get a guarantee, why should you pay a fee? Here you have to take the signal with a fee and you have to take the responsibility of your loss yourself. So what is the benefit here?

[Victorybit1]

I am aware that many signal groups could be fine for sometimes to build trust before they will pull the rug with pump and dump scam.  I also know that some are legit but are highly priced. Can I have a trading signal group of low fees, it could be free for a start and if there are good testimonies, I don't mind paying some fees.

Please believe me when I say that all signal groups are scams. You do not want to be part of one. And why would you want to be? The trading and speculation boards on Bitcointalk offer more useful data.

Signal groups are just created to scam a lot of gullible People but a lot of people still don't want to believe this because they see fake testimonies online. People who give out these signals might not even be experts, and they might not even take out enough time to properly analyze their trades. Some beginners are just too lazy to learn it for themselves they keep relying on these signals and this is why after trading for more than a year they have nothing positive to show for.

[Zadicar]

Look — if a certain individual is actually good with trading, he/she wouldn't be wasting time in handling such a group; regardless if free or paid.

If you don't want to make your own informed decisions with trading and instead want to listen to some random people on the internet, just don't trade. Simple.

Funny enough there's no one that can confidently boast of getting rich from joining trading group because they are a complete waste of time. You can only get good results from trading when you understand it and know how the market works. Subscribing to get signals and still ending up losing both will make you lose more at the long run. In trading the only thing that you should rely on are your own strategies not someone else's.

I think treaders should learn from traders with reputed person because there are thousands of people who are doing scams with name of teaching and in fact they are not teaching anything and they don't know basic knowledge of trading but many people trapped by this because they have no knowledge. Signal group admins only want to make traffic and they are selling their service with money because many people will approach them after joining their group.  People need to learn more before doing trade in cryptocurrency because it could be dangerous at starting point because people will face challenges at the start but with time ,they will learn more and grow more and make portfolio and people will be their students.

There are tons of those wannabe gurus or professionals that been showing off their profitable trades whenever they have done so. There are those who do directly made out some boast of their earnings once they do made out that one good day trading on which it could actually happen into a certain trader, then this is where they will be starting out to offer some mentoring services as if they were actually that professionals or someone whose profitable. The only bad thing on here is that there are those newbies who do easily get believe with these claims and trying out to even pay up for subscription on which they are that believing that they've been following up some legit or real good traders or mentors on which they've seen those positive results. Once they do made out some bad winning trades then this is where they do made out some realizations.

There are groups on which are that definitely free and if you are that wanting or liking to follow someone in regarding trading learnings then there's those community or set of people who does that. It will be that up to you on how you would gonna search for it but most of the time they are really that offering some mentoring services or subs on which you do need up to pay on monthly on which i dont see for it to be practical, not unless if there are tons of people who do believe and made out some good feedbacks about of being a good mentor then there might be some reconsiderations but in overall on which you can make yourself on self learn and wont be having any needing to deal up with things and mind on your own learning methods and steps at your own pace.

[LogitechMouse]

Signal groups are just created to scam a lot of gullible People but a lot of people still don't want to believe this because they see fake testimonies online. People who give out these signals might not even be experts, and they might not even take out enough time to properly analyze their trades. Some beginners are just too lazy to learn it for themselves they keep relying on these signals and this is why after trading for more than a year they have nothing positive to show for.

While this is true, there are some who already know that these signal groups are made to scam people, but they're just curious on what's inside and they want to experience to be in that group that's why they're still joining.

I tried to join one back in 2018 and I paid 5$ for it. I received signals, but by the time I receive it, the coin already pumped which just shows that there are some "tiers" on it where if you paid for the maximum amount, you would receive the signal the same time they will pump the coin. Another red flag on these signal groups is that they are only giving coins that have a low trading volume so that if they need to pump it, it will only need them a few thousand dollars in order to make some profit. We know that the lower the trading volume, the easier it is to manipulate.

I just want to say that learning trading takes forever because if we want to be successful, we need to learn every single day. Being profitable for most of the traders takes years before they become one. If you have the patience, and the capital of course, you can become one of them. Let's remember that 10% of the traders are making money which for me is a huge number.