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February 28, 2025, 03:32:31 PM
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Because For me I don't see anything, not even one single thing that is special about trading, I see trading as emotion and financial damager, because there is amount of professionalism that you we apply that you we not loose money, at time traders even end up loosing there capitals and end up taking loan for them to bounce back, and no matter how you try to predict the market it we always go the opposite direction.
So if there is anything special about trading come and discuss it here, me I have spoken my mind, because after carrying out technical analysis, fundamental analysis and any other analysis that a trader has to carry out he or she we still end up loosing everything to the market.

I wonder how many losses you've incurred in trading to get this kind of disappointment.

To be honest, you look like a person who is traumatized by trading and then tells others about your failures.

There are many aspects that make people experience losses in trading, one of which is not having good money management rules, risk management and your strategy to enter the market, because in trading not only fundamentals are needed but technical analysis is also needed here.

I am curious,
What is your strategy when entering the market?
do you know the reason why you fail in trading?


Not everyone is cut out for trading” is a great statement and i agree with it.

So if you believe in swing trading, maybe that's what suits you, do what makes you comfortable, your money is your responsibility.

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February 28, 2025, 04:45:28 PM
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Because For me I don't see anything, not even one single thing that is special about trading, I see trading as emotion and financial damager, because there is amount of professionalism that you we apply that you we not loose money, at time traders even end up loosing there capitals and end up taking loan for them to bounce back, and no matter how you try to predict the market it we always go the opposite direction.
So if there is anything special about trading come and discuss it here, me I have spoken my mind, because after carrying out technical analysis, fundamental analysis and any other analysis that a trader has to carry out he or she we still end up loosing everything to the market.
Every business, every skill or every profession has their own dark side or disadvantages. So, when we do anything without reservations or moderations, we will meet the extreme effects of it.

A professional trader has winning and losing days. But on the long run, the wins are greater than the loses. But any trader who does not regulate himself and lacks risk management, patience and the rest will not escape the damages Op referred to.
Trading can be risky, but for those who were able to manage and control the risks, they're actually in profits right now. That alone points out that trading is not just all about losses and frustrations, but we can also make trading a passive source of income, that's one of those advantages that we can gain if we are good and experienced traders, something that won't be possible if there's no special thing about trading.
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February 28, 2025, 05:46:55 PM
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Everything about trading is special,
I think being special is subjective. Maybe for you, trading is special but for some it isn't, because they think it was hard and then they mostly experience losing on it.

the most Intriguing thing about trading is that if you don't take out your time to learn it you can never get involved in it.
Wrong, because there is actually lots of uneducated traders that still insist to trade but their results are only unpleasant though. I think some already expected and accepted it but it is also crazy if they didn't.

If trading wasn't special then anyone can just pick up their phone or laptop and do it just like gambling.
Trading the normal way is common but trading the other way or what you said there is actually the ones that is special. It does not mean it is recommended though because that is even more riskier. It is also weird or inappropriate if we say that we are only doing that for fun. There is still real gambling out there in casinos, if all what we want is to gamble and have fun or even make money too.
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February 28, 2025, 07:38:51 PM
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Because For me I don't see anything, not even one single thing that is special about trading
You get to hold your own time but you need to be updated with the market.

You regain your own time from whatever career path that you've been. So, every trader that you'll get to talk and are happy with the results.

It's not only about making money but also gaining their time freedom which is the best part of trading and that's something special that not everyone can have.
I wouldn't call trading as giving us time freedom, but more like flexibility, whenever I trade, literally can't take off my eyes from the market, using alarm provided by exchange also not reliable because the notification sometime comes too late, meanwhile market can just do some random dump or pump anytime so it's not really a time freedom getting fixated 24/7 like that but if we are talking about flexibility,trading is really flexible, can do side hustle while trading, even I can just trade when i'm on a holiday.
That's the type of trader you are but it won't change the fact that flexibility means also time freedom. You can trade later or anytime you wish to.

And that's flexibility in there and making everyone who does it confident that they can win in the market and provide themselves their needs or whatever they need.

I've been there just like you and putting my eyes on the monitor all day long but I've come to realize that I need to change my approach.


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February 28, 2025, 09:04:50 PM
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Because For me I don't see anything, not even one single thing that is special about trading, I see trading as emotion and financial damager, because there is amount of professionalism that you we apply that you we not loose money, at time traders even end up loosing there capitals and end up taking loan for them to bounce back, and no matter how you try to predict the market it we always go the opposite direction.
So if there is anything special about trading come and discuss it here, me I have spoken my mind, because after carrying out technical analysis, fundamental analysis and any other analysis that a trader has to carry out he or she we still end up loosing everything to the market.
Every business, every skill or every profession has their own dark side or disadvantages. So, when we do anything without reservations or moderations, we will meet the extreme effects of it.

A professional trader has winning and losing days. But on the long run, the wins are greater than the loses. But any trader who does not regulate himself and lacks risk management, patience and the rest will not escape the damages Op referred to.
I mean this should be clear, shouldn't it be? We are talking about a "business" here, or investment, whatever you want to call it. Having no downside is impossible, if anyone promises you an investment with zero downside, that is a scam and you are about to get scammed. Trading will of course have a risk of you losing your money, it has to, that is how it works, without that you are not going to make any money at all.

I am sure that if we are dealing with what we are dealing with in trading, we do it because we think there is also a chance to make money. That's what people risk when they trade, they risk losing, for a chance to make profit and some do make profit and some do lose money, that's what it is, and nothing more.

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March 01, 2025, 11:46:56 AM
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Everything about trading is special, the most Intriguing thing about trading is that if you don't take out your time to learn it you can never get involved in it. If trading wasn't special then anyone can just pick up their phone or laptop and do it just like gambling. People spend money to buy courses, some watch videos on YouTube and learn about the market for months before actually thinking of making their first trade. Trading isn't just a random thing you can just wake up and do, it requires learning, discipline and consistency. So I believe this answers your question, there lots of special things about trading.

Exactly, trading is unique in that, unlike other abilities, you must study and practice it thoroughly before you can understand how it works. Anything that does not come easily is unique, because if it were not unique, anyone could simply do it and profit. If you say there is nothing exceptional about trading, I assume you have no knowledge of trading since you would not say that if you had experience. Trading might make you wealthy in a single day, but it can also cause you to lose money fast. So you need to understand about it so that he can minimise risk to it.

Trading is not for everyone, and I believe some will say unnecessary things about it because they do not have enough knowledge about it to achieve their goals, which is why Op says there is nothing special about trading, because if he understood trading, he would not say that statement, which is why they have many investments and businesses. If you don't understand something, you can switch to another and do it and profit. In crypto it is the challenging thing to perform trading, the rest investing, if you simply study it for a while, you will grasp it, but in trading, you need to focus very well and know how the market is moving so that you can know which strategy you can used.

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March 01, 2025, 01:17:25 PM
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Because For me I don't see anything, not even one single thing that is special about trading, I see trading as emotion and financial damager, because there is amount of professionalism that you we apply that you we not loose money, at time traders even end up loosing there capitals and end up taking loan for them to bounce back, and no matter how you try to predict the market it we always go the opposite direction.
So if there is anything special about trading come and discuss it here, me I have spoken my mind, because after carrying out technical analysis, fundamental analysis and any other analysis that a trader has to carry out he or she we still end up loosing everything to the market.
Every business, every skill or every profession has their own dark side or disadvantages. So, when we do anything without reservations or moderations, we will meet the extreme effects of it.

A professional trader has winning and losing days. But on the long run, the wins are greater than the loses. But any trader who does not regulate himself and lacks risk management, patience and the rest will not escape the damages Op referred to.
Trading can be risky, but for those who were able to manage and control the risks, they're actually in profits right now. That alone points out that trading is not just all about losses and frustrations, but we can also make trading a passive source of income, that's one of those advantages that we can gain if we are good and experienced traders, something that won't be possible if there's no special thing about trading.
Actually its really that still risky even into those people or traders who had been trading up for a while on which we know that dealing up with a volatile market is never been that easy considering about its unpredictability and volatileness then there's no way that you can be able to predict on where prices will really be that indeed going. There are those times that you would really be that having those thoughts that trading skill could really be that learned on a short period of time on which on the moment that you will really be that trying out to make up some trades, then this is where you would really be making up some realizations that it was never been easy. Is there anything special? Yes, trading skills is something that could be able to changed up your life completely on which at the moment that you had been able to acquire such skills. Its never been easy but its not impossible. It is really just that depending on you on how you would be dealing up on everything.

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March 01, 2025, 02:47:01 PM
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So if there is anything special about trading come and discuss it here, me I have spoken my mind, because after carrying out technical analysis, fundamental analysis and any other analysis that a trader has to carry out he or she we still end up loosing everything to the market.
It is useless for a trader to know about it but have no good strategies. Still, it ends up losing. It is useless to spend a lot of time in the market doing analysis but never use it in actual trading. It has been said that trading is not all about knowledge but also a need for a high level of skills. And I am certain that not all are gifted with such a thing. That is why many have failed. So if we fail, we don't need to blame the market but rather accept the fact that not everyone is meant to become a trader.

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So if there is anything special about trading come and discuss it here, me I have spoken my mind, because after carrying out technical analysis, fundamental analysis and any other analysis that a trader has to carry out he or she we still end up loosing everything to the market.
It is useless for a trader to know about it but have no good strategies. Still, it ends up losing. It is useless to spend a lot of time in the market doing analysis but never use it in actual trading. It has been said that trading is not all about knowledge but also a need for a high level of skills. And I am certain that not all are gifted with such a thing. That is why many have failed. So if we fail, we don't need to blame the market but rather accept the fact that not everyone is meant to become a trader.
I agree with you. There is no need to blame the market, dumping can happen for any reason and it is normal in any investment and you should formulate your analysis in such a way that the market situation can go beyond your control at any time. Just like buying continuously is a good quality for an investor and another strategic quality for them is that you have a floating cash fund which is allocated for investment and do not use the entire part. Some part allocated during dumping will be positive for entering the market. Trading works only for talented people who are involved in the market situation for a long time and the level of experience is very high. I'm pretty sure that those who enter the market for short-term profit and expect to get rich quick are in loss.











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March 01, 2025, 07:45:23 PM
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Use the amount of money that is lower than the amount of money that you can afford to lose to learn trading.

Use the amount of money that you can afford to lose to trade if you are no more a learner.

Do not increase the amount of money if you have not gained money for almost a month or more.

If you are trading and losing for months or years, the best is to quit. Please quit.
I will advice never to use money to learn trading because learning to trade is a long journey that should be followed with patience.  If money is used to navigate that process, the person might cumulatively lose so much that he will be frustrated. Instead of using money to trade, so many platforms offer paper trading that have exactly the same features as the main trading platform.  This will be a better option than using money no matter how small the money is because it can turn to something significant over time.











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March 02, 2025, 08:42:36 AM
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Because For me I don't see anything, not even one single thing that is special about trading, I see trading as emotion and financial damager, because there is amount of professionalism that you we apply that you we not loose money, at time traders even end up loosing there capitals and end up taking loan for them to bounce back, and no matter how you try to predict the market it we always go the opposite direction.
So if there is anything special about trading come and discuss it here, me I have spoken my mind, because after carrying out technical analysis, fundamental analysis and any other analysis that a trader has to carry out he or she we still end up loosing everything to the market.
There are many things to learn in trading such as:
* Market Analysis
* Supply Zone
* Pinnacle Curve
* Super Supply Zone
* Demand
* Liquidity Sweep
* Identification of Reverse Areas etc.
It will take at least 1.5-2 years for a skilled trader. You will have to watch the market and analyze the market for at least 5-6 hours every day.

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Because For me I don't see anything, not even one single thing that is special about trading, I see trading as emotion and financial damager, because there is amount of professionalism that you we apply that you we not loose money, at time traders even end up loosing there capitals and end up taking loan for them to bounce back, and no matter how you try to predict the market it we always go the opposite direction.
So if there is anything special about trading come and discuss it here, me I have spoken my mind, because after carrying out technical analysis, fundamental analysis and any other analysis that a trader has to carry out he or she we still end up loosing everything to the market.
Indeed, many people experience difficulties and losses in the world of trading, and feel frustrated and always fail to make a decision. I think there is no guarantee that you can accurately predict, especially if you follow professionalism, even if you don't lose money, I think one of the most important aspects of successful trading is risk management. This includes setting a limit for losses and not risking more than you can afford to lose.

Many traders fail and continue to be eager to seek capital in any way and return to playing. I think this will cause big problems for your finances or your daily life. Although many people experience difficulties in trading, there are also those who succeed quickly in the process. And their success in trading often comes from a combination of knowledge, experience, discipline and good risk management. Every trader, even the most successful, experiences losses. What sets them apart is their ability to learn from those mistakes and adapt their strategy. This is a process that requires time and patience.

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March 02, 2025, 03:12:58 PM
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I don't think it should be considered "special". It should be seen as an investment that takes work to be profitable. You can be profitable with the proper risk management, capital allocation per trade,propert leverage with the right capital, and more. It's not always going to be a losing game; it can be a positive one if you also have the right tools.

 
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March 02, 2025, 06:50:23 PM
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I think very few people percentage wise actually make money trading,
short term, possibly, but that might be because the price went in your favour, is that skill ?
I could sit down with 5 of the best poker players in the world and get dealt a few lucky hands initially,
I might sit there thinking what a genius poker player I am.
and win over a short term,
but long term, they're going to take me to the cleaners.
Is there anything special ?
If you're one of the very few % who can do it successfully, then maybe they have something special.
The rest of us are not special in that way.
Trade crypto the Warren Buffet way, pick good quality Cryptos, and hold them for the long term,
maybe review every few months, but otherwise go out and enjoy your life and forget about them.
PS even Warren Buffet avoids Crypto, so that should tell you something, if he can't profit trading Crypto

maybe you shouldn't try.
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I don't think it should be considered "special". It should be seen as an investment that takes work to be profitable. You can be profitable with the proper risk management, capital allocation per trade,propert leverage with the right capital, and more. It's not always going to be a losing game; it can be a positive one if you also have the right tools.
Actually it can be considered as a special skill since not all would really be able to obtain such skill and the reason on why i can say that its special is that it can give out that kind of life time opportunity that you can changed up your life once you do able to acquire out such skill but we do know that this isnt really that you can learn before you do able to encounter tons of errors and mistakes and does still need up a lot of work but at the moment that you do able to get such skills then you can really say that you do have that capacity on changing up your life on a good path in terms of financial but not still an assured thing but becoming a professional trader and sustainable then you will be able to achieve out such condition but of course it will really be that up to you on how you do deal up with this on which not all will be that persevering on learning up this skill because its not something that you will be able to obtain but its not impossible. Just take it slow and never rush yourself on doing such thing because trading isnt a skill that you can learn overnight and it does really take up some time and tons of errors on which you would be needing up to adjust accordingly.

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So if there is anything special about trading come and discuss it here, me I have spoken my mind, because after carrying out technical analysis, fundamental analysis and any other analysis that a trader has to carry out he or she we still end up loosing everything to the market.

You would not lose everything to the market when you apply some carefulness to what you are doing. You do not have to risk all your money when trading but to put some small percentage that you are going to use for each trade. Also you need stop loss put on all your trades to prevent you from losing everything that you use to start the trade. What are special about trading is that it makes you to become disciplined in everything in life, you are a risk taker therefore you would not be scared of taking other risks in life and that is going to be healthy for your growth in both financially and mentally. Trading gives you money and when you have money, your problems in life has reduced because all the problems that money can solved will be solved first.

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I don't think it should be considered "special". It should be seen as an investment that takes work to be profitable. You can be profitable with the proper risk management, capital allocation per trade,propert leverage with the right capital, and more. It's not always going to be a losing game; it can be a positive one if you also have the right tools.
Yes, the right tools…this is exactly what we need to obtain, but most traders find ways to make money easier than facing the truth of the difficulties. That is why it's no wonder they lose more than they make a profit.

Developing skills and enhancing knowledge are tools necessary to become successful. That is why learning to trade is quick and instant, but it is going to take longer and be risky. So, if we just look for easy money, this is not the right place for us.

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Because For me I don't see anything, not even one single thing that is special about trading, I see trading as emotion and financial damager, because there is amount of professionalism that you we apply that you we not loose money, at time traders even end up loosing there capitals and end up taking loan for them to bounce back, and no matter how you try to predict the market it we always go the opposite direction.
Losing money is inevitable in trading, but if you manage your risk very well and you are quite skill in doing the required technical and fundamental analysis, and you are able to control your emotions, you might navigate your way to a profit in the market.
Then as for the bold words in your statement, you don't predict the market, your aren't gambling, it's only gamblers that predict, if you use prediction in trading you are a sure loser any day Any time.

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So if there is anything special about trading come and discuss it here, me I have spoken my mind, because after carrying out technical analysis, fundamental analysis and any other analysis that a trader has to carry out he or she we still end up loosing everything to the market.
As for this, according to your sentiment and statement, it shows that you knows nothing on technical and fundamental analysis, I am quite sure that you will be unable to control your emotions too, so you don't trade the market blindly and be expecting a profit in return.

 
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Because For me I don't see anything, not even one single thing that is special about trading, I see trading as emotion and financial damager, because there is amount of professionalism that you we apply that you we not loose money, at time traders even end up loosing there capitals and end up taking loan for them to bounce back, and no matter how you try to predict the market it we always go the opposite direction.
Losing money is inevitable in trading, but if you manage your risk very well and you are quite skill in doing the required technical and fundamental analysis, and you are able to control your emotions, you might navigate your way to a profit in the market.
Then as for the bold words in your statement, you don't predict the market, your aren't gambling, it's only gamblers that predict, if you use prediction in trading you are a sure loser any day Any time.
I agree with you. There are several reasons why losing money in trading is inevitable. Traders tend to get rich in the short term so they overestimate the future price increase which most of the time does not work out. Another reason is that traders in the desire to make extra money push most of their capital into the market so they do not have extra money in the next bearish period and they lose their capital.
It is good to predict the market so that you can keep your investment plan in line for the coming months or years. Yes predicting the future is good in investing but estimating the price is more uncertain in trading.
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So if there is anything special about trading come and discuss it here, me I have spoken my mind, because after carrying out technical analysis, fundamental analysis and any other analysis that a trader has to carry out he or she we still end up loosing everything to the market.

You would not lose everything to the market when you apply some carefulness to what you are doing. You do not have to risk all your money when trading but to put some small percentage that you are going to use for each trade. Also you need stop loss put on all your trades to prevent you from losing everything that you use to start the trade. What are special about trading is that it makes you to become disciplined in everything in life, you are a risk taker therefore you would not be scared of taking other risks in life and that is going to be healthy for your growth in both financially and mentally. Trading gives you money and when you have money, your problems in life has reduced because all the problems that money can solved will be solved first.
Trading is a profession that is very risky so it's not for everybody, people who wants to be successful in it should have self control, avoid being emotional and greed. Greed is one factor that makes many traders to lose a lot of money, they enter their trade with huge amounts of money, hoping to make quick profit but this is not always the case, they often become emotional, start to chase loses and lose everything. Traders should use amounts that they can afford to loose because cryptocurrencies are very volatile, so if you lose the impact won't be much on you. Newbies should not rush into trading, they need to learn and be mentored first by professionals so that they can be profitable when they start.

 
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