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February 27, 2025, 07:02:02 PM
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As many of you know, I follow the AI revolution with great interest as it is already changing our lives, and today I’m here to talk about what I believe will be the next step in this revolution.

First let's look at the definition of an AI agent:

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An artificial intelligence (AI) agent refers to a system or program that is capable of autonomously performing tasks on behalf of a user or another system by designing its workflow and utilizing available tools.

AI agents can encompass a wide range of functionalities beyond natural language processing including decision-making, problem-solving, interacting with external environments and executing actions.

So basically, AI agents will learn to complete tasks in the digital world just like a human. This means that most of what you do on your computer or phone today, an AI agent will be able to do for you.

Of course, this is going to have enormous economic implications, far more than it already has. OpenAI, for example, is increasing its revenue at a rapid pace. This isn't a matter of whether you like it or not. Everyone is going to use AI, and if your company doesn't, it will go bankrupt because all the others will (obviously, there are exceptions to this, for example, if you're the only baker in a remote village). If you're an individual, pretty soon not using AI will be like not using the internet or not using mobile phones.

I'm starting this thread so we can discuss the topic, and I'm eagerly waiting for the Luddites to chime in with their nonsense so I can have a friendly debate with them, lol.

 
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February 27, 2025, 07:27:04 PM
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As many of you know, I follow the AI revolution with great interest as it is already changing our lives, and today I’m here to talk about what I believe will be the next step in this revolution.
Now i know the reason why you changed your name.

I'm starting this thread so we can discuss the topic, and I'm eagerly waiting for the Luddites to chime in with their nonsense so I can have a friendly debate with them, lol.
In this topic you will not be having a debate rather you will be having a lot of contributions and engagement because no matter what anyone would say here we cannot deny the fact that AI is taking the internet space gradually. Those who claim they have the technology because they may be scared of losing their job or a position that AI can replace them. They are now the people who will prefer to use AI in getting things done using AI. TBH, AI has come to existence anyone who have not embrace it should do so early not when it is late.

I will keep following this thread from time to time to see what others have to say. Perhaps i can join in that debate.
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February 27, 2025, 08:24:46 PM
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So basically, AI agents will learn to complete tasks in the digital world just like a human. This means that most of what you do on your computer or phone today, an AI agent will be able to do for you.
doesn’t this already exist?

many features in our computers can now be done by ai so i think the next logical step for ai is a physical form

i think i have seen some functioning robots from elon and other source obviously it is still being developed but i think this would be the next big thing unlike in movies where the robots get consciousness i don’t think that will ever happen as they don’t have a soul and brain anyway
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February 27, 2025, 08:27:10 PM
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So basically, AI agents will learn to complete tasks in the digital world just like a human. This means that most of what you do on your computer or phone today, an AI agent will be able to do for you.

I guess this part is alright: "AI agents will learn to complete tasks in the digital world just like a human". But this part is definitely funny: "Most of what you do on your computer or phone today, an AI agent will be able to do for you.". If AI does everything for us, then what are we going to do?

I think many people have a misconception about AI technology... This technology has been around for some time, and it's improving day by day, but it still does not have "superpowers", the question is whether it will ever have them.





 
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February 28, 2025, 07:20:09 AM
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agentic AI has been there for long, even most of insurance company use AI nowadays for decision making, aside from the fact that it's cheaper, you can also shift blame to AI providers (which is a big plus if you've ever worked in large corporation Grin).

personally I've been putting so much attention into AI growth, right now i'm still waiting for models that's cheap so maybe I can create business from it, giving automated solution, but so far, AI just getting more and more expensive, especially with the recent popularity of reasoning models, but honestly, I think current AI isn't quite there yet to perfectly do human's job, still so much hallucination if i'm being honest, maybe it's the limitation of LLM, but still definitely too early to judge since AI growth has been quite exploding.

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February 28, 2025, 10:50:12 AM
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Definitely the designatory programs of the AI agents is to facilitate and on the replacement of human aids of performing tasks on their own and it is interesting to note that this technological development will enhance humans longitude and eliminates the deficiencies at a result of over mentally and physically stressed to do work or after work.
So basically, AI agents will learn to complete tasks in the digital world just like a human. This means that most of what you do on your computer or phone today, an AI agent will be able to do for you.
This is actually terrifying, are their going to be an Inbuilt chip in your head connected to our phones so the phone can always detect what is on our mind and execute the operation by itself or how would this be done?

Because I know our computers are already AI technology program which means whatever we been doing on our phone and devices is being executed only when we (human) gives it the operating instructions commands on what we want the technology (device) to do for us.

Already, I believe the advancements of AI will do exceedingly beyond humans capacity.











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Of course, this is going to have enormous economic implications, far more than it already has. OpenAI, for example, is increasing its revenue at a rapid pace. This isn't a matter of whether you like it or not. Everyone is going to use AI, and if your company doesn't, it will go bankrupt because all the others will (obviously, there are exceptions to this, for example, if you're the only baker in a remote village). If you're an individual, pretty soon not using AI will be like not using the internet or not using mobile phones.

I'm starting this thread so we can discuss the topic, and I'm eagerly waiting for the Luddites to chime in with their nonsense so I can have a friendly debate with them, lol.

Back in the 1960s and 1970s, there was some set of people who criticized the use of computers. There were also arguments in some fields that the computer could lead to a psychological disorder called technophobia. Others fear that computers will lead to massive jobs. Hence, there is a need to protect humans from job losses. Currently, these concerns have been reduced, and almost everyone is using a computer.

The same thing is happening today with the use of artificial intelligence. However, the truth is that any individual or organization that fails to integrate AI into its operations will not be competitive and might become obsolete.

AI agents is indeed a revolutionary discovery that will help reduce workload and the cost of running businesses. It will also lead to job losses but those who are able to add the use of AI to their skills will easily get new jobs..

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I think what will happen is that AI agents will become more popular because there are homes in civilized countries that have AI robots that move around, clean up, and perform tasks. Even Alexa and Siri can turn on music, turn off lights, and open doors , these are like agents.

They might become more widely used, but it's still expensive, so maybe third-world countries might not adopt it actively. I see us working well with AI, but it's going to reduce the number of human beings in the workforce. Definitely, some people might have to leave their jobs for the smarter ones to remain and oversee the activities of the AI agents, because they can't operate on their own.

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I think what will happen is that AI agents will become more popular because there are homes in civilized countries that have AI robots that move around, clean up, and perform tasks. Even Alexa and Siri can turn on music, turn off lights, and open doors , these are like agents.

They might become more widely used, but it's still expensive, so maybe third-world countries might not adopt it actively. I see us working well with AI, but it's going to reduce the number of human beings in the workforce. Definitely, some people might have to leave their jobs for the smarter ones to remain and oversee the activities of the AI agents, because they can't operate on their own.

And, trust me, when liquids is poured on them, they  can malfunction. I'm just curious to know what companies like OpenAI and Elon Musk plan to do with AI innovations as we progress .
I dont think those AI that can assist with human homemade activities are unleashed into the society yet. 3 years ago i oversaw in the news where those AI where built. It was a total documentary of those AI and the importance of them to our household. Yet, there have been no news that anyone country has started using those AI at home if not by now many other countries would have adapted it.

There is every opportunity to everyone in any industry. No one is smarter than the other the only difference is that one put extra efforts to learn how to control the AI to the work done at the early stage. So those who might be fired will be those who were too reluctant to start learning how to use the AI.

Liquid is indeed a big problem, dont you think there will be a water resistance on the body of the AI. Weve seen several digital technologies like that, the AI is no exemption.

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Now i know the reason why you changed your name.

The main reason I changed it is because I don't play poker anymore. Secondarily because it has more to do with what I write on the forum, but the AI does not act in a de facto free market. In the EU it is subject to a lot of regulations, in China also, while in the USA it is quite free.

doesn’t this already exist?

They do not exist as I think they will be in a few years or they exist in a very primitive state, whichever you prefer.

If AI does everything for us, then what are we going to do?

The world does not change depending on whether you are going to run out of things to do or not.

personally I've been putting so much attention into AI growth, right now i'm still waiting for models that's cheap so maybe I can create business from it, giving automated solution, but so far, AI just getting more and more expensive,

Yes, I asked the AI recently and the current AI agents, if you want to buy them, are worth tens of thousands of dollars and if you want them on a subscription model, several hundred dollars a month.

especially with the recent popularity of reasoning models, but honestly, I think current AI isn't quite there yet to perfectly do human's job, still so much hallucination if i'm being honest, maybe it's the limitation of LLM, but still definitely too early to judge since AI growth has been quite exploding.

I think AI is still in its infancy.

Back in the 1960s and 1970s, there was some set of people who criticized the use of computers. There were also arguments in some fields that the computer could lead to a psychological disorder called technophobia. Others fear that computers will lead to massive jobs. Hence, there is a need to protect humans from job losses. Currently, these concerns have been reduced, and almost everyone is using a computer.

The same thing is happening today with the use of artificial intelligence. However, the truth is that any individual or organization that fails to integrate AI into its operations will not be competitive and might become obsolete.

AI agents is indeed a revolutionary discovery that will help reduce workload and the cost of running businesses. It will also lead to job losses but those who are able to add the use of AI to their skills will easily get new jobs..

That's basically what I think. It has happened every time a new technology has come along, and every time it has happened that that technology, once adopted, has raised the living standards of humans, leading to the creation of new jobs. We can't be 100% sure if the same thing will happen this time, though.


 
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AI will surely be more prevalent in the future, but there is no doubt that people are going to have a hard time accepting it, especially those who believe AI technology is their enemy because it can take over their jobs and make them become useless. I believe in revolution, and I think AI is going to be of great help to us in the future. It will make us more independent in terms of getting specific things done by others, which then we will be able to do ourselves using AI, and that has already started, I guess.

AI agents can be very useful as long as they do things as per our expectations and how we want them done. Imagine having an AI agent managing your work-related stuff, which isn't that difficult to do or require critical thinking but requires time from you and now you can allow an AI agent to get it done for you while you do something else.

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The part on autonomous AI could mean that the owners wont be setting the rules or telling AI what to do  The AI would be deciding for them because it sees more, hears more, knows more, etc about what's happening allover the system, through sensors, camera, and interaction with other AI. But if you consider the fact it's going to be centralized or centrally controlled you will probably realize the humans will be the mercy of the entity that controls it. He will be the one setting the rules with basic instructions on how AI should behave.
A better alternative would be decentralized and transparent AI system that allows all participants to be in charge of the AI
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In fact, AI agents can be considered as employees working in a large company. This creates huge prospects for ambitious people who want to create their own financial and information empires.

In the past, they would have to spend a lot of time building a career that would give them the opportunity to have a large number of employees - people - under their control. Now, to achieve the same goals, it is enough to have a good understanding of artificial intelligence technologies.

In the process of evolution, man has constantly come up with new tools that allowed him to do his job more and more efficiently.

However, AI agents are perhaps the most efficient tools created by mankind.

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This AI agent thing has been discussed a lot, and often people exaggerate it like a device with full consciousness that can replace human tasks in making decisions and doing analysis. but I'm not so sure that it can be like that, because the difference between machines and humans lies in many aspects, and I don't think this AI agent can reach the point of being like a human. maybe it can do analysis and provide a summary of something, but when deciding a decision, it might be a little difficult for the AI ​​agent, because sometimes a decision does not come from mathematical calculations, but also a feeling and intuition that the AI ​​agent does not have.

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Basically, what we used to call a "secretary" or these days called personal assistant. There are some AI agents that work for companies now, and they are trying hard to make sure that a phone call could be received by an AI agent and handle every part. If you call a hotel to book a reservation, wouldn't it be simpler if just some AI answered and you handle it easily?

We still obviously have some ways to go, but we are going to get there eventually and we are doing our best. Of course this means less work for humans, but that is what technological improvements has always mean, that's what we had from industrial evolution too, and that is what we are going to get from this too, it has to reshape what we work on.

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agentic AI has been there for long, even most of insurance company use AI nowadays for decision making, aside from the fact that it's cheaper, you can also shift blame to AI providers (which is a big plus if you've ever worked in large corporation Grin).

personally I've been putting so much attention into AI growth, right now i'm still waiting for models that's cheap so maybe I can create business from it, giving automated solution, but so far, AI just getting more and more expensive, especially with the recent popularity of reasoning models, but honestly, I think current AI isn't quite there yet to perfectly do human's job, still so much hallucination if i'm being honest, maybe it's the limitation of LLM, but still definitely too early to judge since AI growth has been quite exploding.

Let us admit the fact that we can't escape the AI intervention in most digital transactions these days. Their employment is actually very useful in analyzing large data and coming up with better assessments. I believe, it is how we are living these days already. AI will play a big part in making our online transactions smooth and fast.
For most companies, AI will be of big help when it comes to reducing their operational costs. This will give them more allocation in other aspects of business such as research and innovations. As we have seen, a lot of works can now be done via the use of AI.

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So basically, AI agents will learn to complete tasks in the digital world just like a human. This means that most of what you do on your computer or phone today, an AI agent will be able to do for you.
doesn’t this already exist?

many features in our computers can now be done by ai so i think the next logical step for ai is a physical form
Yeah, you kept on wondering why Facebook and other social media app knows the kind of fun and pages you love the most, they kept on bringing more of similar pages to you and more and more kept popping up for you to follow. I don't really know if this AI bots are program to detect exactly what our mind thinks about, how our body respond to certain articles on the media and stuffs like that.

This is going crazy and beyond human understanding, the physical form would seems to be expensive though and may be for the rich to only acquire, I think so.



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what different about AI agents and ChatGPT?
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Basically, what we used to call a "secretary" or these days called personal assistant.

I do not agree with the analogy because a secretary does not have the level of knowledge that the AI agent has. They will be more like advisors, experts in the field you need who will be there to help you with whatever you need and carry out the tasks you entrust to them.

what different about AI agents and ChatGPT?

That they can perform tasks autonomously. You have to give ChatGPT instructions each time.

 
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I wonder if this includes creating its own infrastructure? Say a whole base AI and I'm an HR employee for a company and I want it to create a system for its employees with all the rules and stuff laid out to it. Does it need a basic infrastructure, or can it create its own? Because the former is basically us as humans being the decision makers. And if we were to integrate AI imo it's pretty similar to how some sites have localized AI now with their own data fed into it to answer website-related questions. After that, I reckon it's just a matter of creating various triggers AI can detect to, well, do everything else related/needed.

If it's the latter, though then that's 100% a game-changer. It doesn't necessarily "need" to create everything immediately, just evolve as it goes or something, so that it wouldn't take much time at the start and instead incrementally grow.

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