no one can beat the casino.

[danherbias07]

Somehow to beat the house owner, this is something that has never crossed my mind, and maybe one way to beat the casino is to cheat. But of course this is too risky to do. So instead of bothering to think about how to beat gambling, it's better to just enjoy gambling properly. Because if we want big money, then work and do business, because gambling is not the place to get it.

Thinking about being able to beat the casino will only drag us to a bigger loss, which we can never bear.

Cheat!! How do you cheat at a casino? I think cheating at a casino is not possible; if you want to cheat the casino, then you will lose everything. The deposit, winning, and account, and they may block you permanently. If so, then what is the benefit of cheating? I think there is no way to survive by cheating.

Yeah, I also disagree with that kind of method. It's difficult to win, that's for sure. But applying cheats will just make it worse.

There are still games where we could win, although it's not as high as we want it to be, because of the low-risk, low-return type of games. Although those who took the high risk will probably get one big win in one bet but there's no assurance of it either. It's high risk, expect a difficult path and a losing streak coming.
I just wish online casinos would open an investment feature again. If you cannot beat them, join them.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Obviously there are exceptions to this rule. People have beat the casino. I’ve seen it happen. There are plenty of people who won giant jackpots. However, that doesn’t mean it is possible for everyone. A lot of people have to lose to the casino for one person to win. Don’t fool yourself into thinking you will be the one.

I think when we are talking about beating the casino in this context it means being profitable in the long run... it's possible to win out of luck one or two times, you witnessed people hitting the jackpot, this is very normal but It rarely happens...The problem with this is that you can't win constantly if you are a regular player, the people you witnessed winning huge amounts are bound to lose more than that if they continue gambling that's just how the game works

Based on the example that OG has given in respect to those that won huge jackpots, I think they succeeded in beating the casino but if they don't go back to spend the money on the casino, that's when they truly beat the casino but if they spend the money in gambling again, that's meaningless. Winning jackpots doesn't happen regularly, if a gambler is luck to win a jackpot and it surpasses all the money he has spent in gambling, that's when we can say the person has beat the casino.

[bitzizzix]

Obviously there are exceptions to this rule. People have beat the casino. I’ve seen it happen. There are plenty of people who won giant jackpots. However, that doesn’t mean it is possible for everyone. A lot of people have to lose to the casino for one person to win. Don’t fool yourself into thinking you will be the one.

I think when we are talking about beating the casino in this context it means being profitable in the long run... it's possible to win out of luck one or two times, you witnessed people hitting the jackpot, this is very normal but It rarely happens...The problem with this is that you can't win constantly if you are a regular player, the people you witnessed winning huge amounts are bound to lose more than that if they continue gambling that's just how the game works

Based on the example that OG has given in respect to those that won huge jackpots, I think they succeeded in beating the casino but if they don't go back to spend the money on the casino, that's when they truly beat the casino but if they spend the money in gambling again, that's meaningless. Winning jackpots doesn't happen regularly, if a gambler is luck to win a jackpot and it surpasses all the money he has spent in gambling, that's when we can say the person has beat the casino.

It should be and in a way it means you have beaten the casino, but most of those who win jackpots are gamblers who I think find it hard not to go back to the casino and even if they take a break to enjoy their jackpot win, they will definitely come back in the hope of winning it again. Since jackpot wins are hard to come by and only happen once in a lifetime by luck, and with the high expectation of winning it again in the long run, it can potentially lead to losses that can exceed the jackpot won which is actually the result of previous losses and most don't realize it. So when you do hit the jackpot, it is better not to go back because that is the real win.

[panjul07]

Obviously there are exceptions to this rule. People have beat the casino. I’ve seen it happen. There are plenty of people who won giant jackpots. However, that doesn’t mean it is possible for everyone. A lot of people have to lose to the casino for one person to win. Don’t fool yourself into thinking you will be the one.

I think when we are talking about beating the casino in this context it means being profitable in the long run... it's possible to win out of luck one or two times, you witnessed people hitting the jackpot, this is very normal but It rarely happens...The problem with this is that you can't win constantly if you are a regular player, the people you witnessed winning huge amounts are bound to lose more than that if they continue gambling that's just how the game works

Based on the example that OG has given in respect to those that won huge jackpots, I think they succeeded in beating the casino but if they don't go back to spend the money on the casino, that's when they truly beat the casino but if they spend the money in gambling again, that's meaningless. Winning jackpots doesn't happen regularly, if a gambler is luck to win a jackpot and it surpasses all the money he has spent in gambling, that's when we can say the person has beat the casino.

From subjective point of view (the player), yes the player has the right to say that he/she has beaten the casino as he/she won and did not come back.
On the other point of view (the casino), the casino may say that your jackpot win is nothing because the casino is still making profit.
But in general or in objective point of view, beating a casino can be considered as making the casino bankrupt or unable to pay the whole amount of winning by players.

[Pandu Geddon]

So when you do hit the jackpot, it is better not to go back because that is the real win.

But you have said it, it will be hard not to come back to play. Especially if you are a gambler who goes to bet every day or at least every week. Such a routine has formed a habit in the gambler's life, even though winning a large amount, the gambler will not leave gambling.
No need to think about taking advantage and beating the casino. Just play and enjoy the victory, as long as you bet and do not experience problems with your finances. I think there is no need to think about something that will be a pressure for you.

[bitzizzix]

So when you do hit the jackpot, it is better not to go back because that is the real win.

But you have said it, it will be hard not to come back to play. Especially if you are a gambler who goes to bet every day or at least every week. Such a routine has formed a habit in the gambler's life, even though winning a large amount, the gambler will not leave gambling.
No need to think about taking advantage and beating the casino. Just play and enjoy the victory, as long as you bet and do not experience problems with your finances. I think there is no need to think about something that will be a pressure for you.

You are right and what I mentioned is indeed as it should be, but it is not that easy because most of them are gamblers and will definitely come back again, because I also feel it even though I have never gotten a jackpot or big win because gambling is not about winning or losing but more about fun entertainment and a little luck as long as it does not interfere with finances and uses money that can afford to lose. So no one can really beat the casino and even though what I mentioned makes sense but it is not that easy, because gambling will always attract people especially those who have been gambling for a long time who are not easy to leave suddenly.

[Roseline492]

Based on the example that OG has given in respect to those that won huge jackpots, I think they succeeded in beating the casino but if they don't go back to spend the money on the casino, that's when they truly beat the casino but if they spend the money in gambling again, that's meaningless. Winning jackpots doesn't happen regularly, if a gambler is luck to win a jackpot and it surpasses all the money he has spent in gambling, that's when we can say the person has beat the casino.

You are right beaten the Casino is not only about winning a jackpot because the moment the person refused to make sure that the money they won from the Casino is used for a better thing outside of gambling then they have not beaten the casino, actually what Casinos believe is that even if you won $200k or million from them so long as the persons greed brought them back to the casino and they got all the money exhausted they have not beaten them but however anybody that say that no one can beat the casino is wrong because people have made millions of dollars with just a minor $2k they started with and use those money for business instead of regambling.

[DaNNy001]

Somehow to beat the house owner, this is something that has never crossed my mind, and maybe one way to beat the casino is to cheat. But of course this is too risky to do. So instead of bothering to think about how to beat gambling, it's better to just enjoy gambling properly. Because if we want big money, then work and do business, because gambling is not the place to get it.

Thinking about being able to beat the casino will only drag us to a bigger loss, which we can never bear.

This is something that cannot be achieved no matter how hard you try, just like you said it's only drag us to a bigger loss... Only 5 percent or less out of a hundred percent of people has figured out a way to cheat the casino... gambling isn't fun when you think of how to constantly be in profit, I just gamble for fun so this isn't something that I ever try to do..the house is always going to be in Profit no matter how hard you try to win

[fruktik]

For example, not every player faces long losing streaks. If someone places bets and keeps detailed records, and they see that their losing streaks usually do not exceed 3 to 5 matches on average, those would be their worst runs. In that case, they can manage their bankroll in a way that allows them to feel safe, keeping a solid deposit buffer. And if losses alternate with wins, they can apply this strategy. But honestly, I am not sure if it makes much sense. If a player has good stats without long losing streaks, they can simply adjust by increasing the odds they choose, and it would be a safer approach for their bankroll. That is just my opinion.

I came to the conclusion that no strategy shows itself positively over a long period of time. I can't even remember the number of different options. In the end, the deposit was lost anyway. Yes, of course, there were great moments when I managed to hit a big win, but this was only a couple of times over many years. Were my expectations met? I can't answer this question right away. Most likely, the money lost is much greater than the money won. These are the conclusions I made.

[junder]

Somehow to beat the house owner, this is something that has never crossed my mind, and maybe one way to beat the casino is to cheat. But of course this is too risky to do. So instead of bothering to think about how to beat gambling, it's better to just enjoy gambling properly. Because if we want big money, then work and do business, because gambling is not the place to get it.

Thinking about being able to beat the casino will only drag us to a bigger loss, which we can never bear.

This is something that cannot be achieved no matter how hard you try, just like you said it's only drag us to a bigger loss... Only 5 percent or less out of a hundred percent of people has figured out a way to cheat the casino... gambling isn't fun when you think of how to constantly be in profit, I just gamble for fun so this isn't something that I ever try to do..the house is always going to be in Profit no matter how hard you try to win

Bad things will happen when we have the wrong view of gambling, such as thinking that we must be able to get as much profit as possible from gambling. Surely everyone who visits gambling mostly wants to get a win with a minimal budget, but what needs to be known is that casinos are also a business that is developed with the aim of generating profits, even for someone who is lucky enough to get a big win or jackpot, it does not make the casino suffer a big loss.

You are right, no matter how hard we try, the casino will still win because they are the hosts who have arranged everything to be able to produce a win, even the player's win is what they arrange.

[dwyane36]

Bad things will happen when we have the wrong view of gambling, such as thinking that we must be able to get as much profit as possible from gambling. Surely everyone who visits gambling mostly wants to get a win with a minimal budget, but what needs to be known is that casinos are also a business that is developed with the aim of generating profits, even for someone who is lucky enough to get a big win or jackpot, it does not make the casino suffer a big loss.

You are right, no matter how hard we try, the casino will still win because they are the hosts who have arranged everything to be able to produce a win, even the player's win is what they arrange.

It's unlikely that most beginners have an understanding of this. Many of them realize it only after hundreds/thousands of lost bets and several drained deposits. In fact, some gamblers become addicted precisely because they can't realize that beating the casino is unrealistic, especially in the long term.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

It should be and in a way it means you have beaten the casino, but most of those who win jackpots are gamblers who I think find it hard not to go back to the casino and even if they take a break to enjoy their jackpot win, they will definitely come back in the hope of winning it again. Since jackpot wins are hard to come by and only happen once in a lifetime by luck, and with the high expectation of winning it again in the long run, it can potentially lead to losses that can exceed the jackpot won which is actually the result of previous losses and most don't realize it. So when you do hit the jackpot, it is better not to go back because that is the real win.

Some people can really win a huge amount from jackpots, a life changing amount such that even if they go back to gambling, it will take a very long time or years before they can spend all that money on gambling, especially if they are responsible gamblers, they will not even spend so much on the casino again but could use the money to do something meaningful, either an investment or business which will constantly yield profit for them. Someone won a jackpot lately on one of the casinos on the forum and the money was huge, if that gambler has not lose up to that amount be won, that means he really beat the casino.

[purple_sparkles]

Bad things will happen when we have the wrong view of gambling, such as thinking that we must be able to get as much profit as possible from gambling. Surely everyone who visits gambling mostly wants to get a win with a minimal budget, but what needs to be known is that casinos are also a business that is developed with the aim of generating profits, even for someone who is lucky enough to get a big win or jackpot, it does not make the casino suffer a big loss.

You are right, no matter how hard we try, the casino will still win because they are the hosts who have arranged everything to be able to produce a win, even the player's win is what they arrange.

It's unlikely that most beginners have an understanding of this. Many of them realize it only after hundreds/thousands of lost bets and several drained deposits. In fact, some gamblers become addicted precisely because they can't realize that beating the casino is unrealistic, especially in the long term.

A casino, like any other business, is designed to generate profit. It’s obvious that the software in slot machines is built to ensure the casino always comes out ahead. Players know this and still count on luck. After all, only a few people win the lottery, but people still believe in their chance and keep playing, it’s the same here. As for those who believe they can beat the casino, they’ve probably watched too many movies. Most of the time, they’re just selling themselves the fantasy of a magical solution that has nothing to do with reality.

[giammangiato]

A casino from the most popular to the least popular, if it does not generate profit, has no reason to remain in operation.
It is not about beating or not beating the casino, it is about generating income and expenses and having a certain economic balance.
Looking from the outside, casinos seem like a simple recreational activity even from a management point of view, in reality behind it there is a complex world, luck wins, the probability that is also calculated.
What is not tolerated is cheating the casino or anyone by cheating, that is unacceptable.

[cande86]

Somehow to beat the house owner, this is something that has never crossed my mind, and maybe one way to beat the casino is to cheat. But of course this is too risky to do. So instead of bothering to think about how to beat gambling, it's better to just enjoy gambling properly. Because if we want big money, then work and do business, because gambling is not the place to get it.

Thinking about being able to beat the casino will only drag us to a bigger loss, which we can never bear.

This is something that cannot be achieved no matter how hard you try, just like you said it's only drag us to a bigger loss... Only 5 percent or less out of a hundred percent of people has figured out a way to cheat the casino... gambling isn't fun when you think of how to constantly be in profit, I just gamble for fun so this isn't something that I ever try to do..the house is always going to be in Profit no matter how hard you try to win

Bad things will happen when we have the wrong view of gambling, such as thinking that we must be able to get as much profit as possible from gambling. Surely everyone who visits gambling mostly wants to get a win with a minimal budget, but what needs to be known is that casinos are also a business that is developed with the aim of generating profits, even for someone who is lucky enough to get a big win or jackpot, it does not make the casino suffer a big loss.

You are right, no matter how hard we try, the casino will still win because they are the hosts who have arranged everything to be able to produce a win, even the player's win is what they arrange.

every time the casino loses, and it loses a lot, to just one person, they will do everything to prevent it from happening, in fact the only way to take money from a casino is to play once and try your luck, many have tried to cheat the casino but no one has ever succeeded, by cheating or otherwise, so it is useless to even try

[rachael9385]

my question to you is: have you ever tried any of these strategies before? were you successful?

"they usually involve increasing the bet after a loss", Do you mean the martingale strategy? yeah, I've tried it, and it didn't work, but theoretically it is a "win-win" strategy, but then again it only works on infinite funds and no max bet amount which you or any gambler has and casinos usually have a max bet amount. so yeah, while it is a "win-win" strategy theoretically, it doesn't work practically.

Does anyone really have such capacity? No one's funds are inexhaustible, there's always a limit that everyone can take. The martingale system would always be a scam because it involves increasing your stake on each bet not knowing the outcome of the bets and if you are going to recover or lose more money. No one has anything positive to say about this strategy because it exhausts your bankroll faster

[wheeljunkie]

my question to you is: have you ever tried any of these strategies before? were you successful?

"they usually involve increasing the bet after a loss", Do you mean the martingale strategy? yeah, I've tried it, and it didn't work, but theoretically it is a "win-win" strategy, but then again it only works on infinite funds and no max bet amount which you or any gambler has and casinos usually have a max bet amount. so yeah, while it is a "win-win" strategy theoretically, it doesn't work practically.

Does anyone really have such capacity? No one's funds are inexhaustible, there's always a limit that everyone can take. The martingale system would always be a scam because it involves increasing your stake on each bet not knowing the outcome of the bets and if you are going to recover or lose more money. No one has anything positive to say about this strategy because it exhausts your bankroll faster

You are asking if anyone have the capacity of infinite funds?  Martingale is not a strategy, it is a stupid hack that is disguised as a strategy and it does not work. If it worked, casinos would be bankrupt by now. People need to stop believing in fairy tales, there is no winning strategy and there can never be one.

[dimonstration]

You are asking if anyone have the capacity of infinite funds?   Martingale is not a strategy, it is a stupid hack that is disguised as a strategy and it does not work. If it worked, casinos would be bankrupt by now. People need to stop believing in fairy tales, there is no winning strategy and there can never be one.

There’s no infinite cash but a billionaire like Bezos can beat the casino bankroll if he will do a martingale strategy continuously.

This is the reason why casino has bet limit on their game so that no one can beat their bankroll no matter how high roller you are. But if we remove those limits and assuming that casino games is fair, I think Billionaire can beat a casino with low bankroll.

No one can beat since billionaire don’t gamble in a casino.

[wheeljunkie]

You are asking if anyone have the capacity of infinite funds?   Martingale is not a strategy, it is a stupid hack that is disguised as a strategy and it does not work. If it worked, casinos would be bankrupt by now. People need to stop believing in fairy tales, there is no winning strategy and there can never be one.

There’s no infinite cash but a billionaire like Bezos can beat the casino bankroll if he will do a martingale strategy continuously.

This is the reason why casino has bet limit on their game so that no one can beat their bankroll no matter how high roller you are. But if we remove those limits and assuming that casino games is fair, I think Billionaire can beat a casino with low bankroll.

No one can beat since billionaire don’t gamble in a casino.

That is not true, it just shows that you don't understand the faults of martingale and that it is not a strategy. If the casino had a bankroll that could accept bets in the billions range, even Bezos would go bankrupt with martingale. Beating a casino with a low bankroll is pretty meaningless. We were talking about martingale and actually beating a casino, not about $5000 casinos. 

[dimonstration]

You are asking if anyone have the capacity of infinite funds?   Martingale is not a strategy, it is a stupid hack that is disguised as a strategy and it does not work. If it worked, casinos would be bankrupt by now. People need to stop believing in fairy tales, there is no winning strategy and there can never be one.

There’s no infinite cash but a billionaire like Bezos can beat the casino bankroll if he will do a martingale strategy continuously.

This is the reason why casino has bet limit on their game so that no one can beat their bankroll no matter how high roller you are. But if we remove those limits and assuming that casino games is fair, I think Billionaire can beat a casino with low bankroll.

No one can beat since billionaire don’t gamble in a casino.

That is not true, it just shows that you don't understand the faults of martingale and that it is not a strategy. If the casino had a bankroll that could accept bets in the billions range, even Bezos would go bankrupt with martingale. Beating a casino with a low bankroll is pretty meaningless. We were talking about martingale and actually beating a casino, not about $5000 casinos. 

I do mention a low bankroll casino to be fair.  There’s casino with small bankroll that can be easily beat by playing a simple martingale given that you have a Billion dollar fund.

In theory, A casino is impossible to beat since they do have decent bankroll that can withstand player bet even with martingale. I do understand the math behind and the risk involved.

I just don’t like the argument that an infinite funds can never beat a casino. That’s an absurd thinking since I can drop a 1B bet then Martingale it to infinity.


I do emphasize a small bankroll