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April 01, 2014, 10:31:44 PM
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if you take a look at what is profitable to mine all n-scrypt coins are in the tank.

what the people who come up with these coins forget is one thing - mining equipment is not free.

the vast majority of people mining mine for the technical challenge to keep their hands in computers because their IT Professional like myself and they like extra income that mining affords them.

I read with humor the altruistic posts by people who want to guard their coins from high speed mining by asic chips.

It's like telling people you've found a precious metal and only people with pick axes can mine it - guess what? they're going to ignore you and mine what's easiest to mine.

The perfect analogy is the resistance to the industrial age.

If your coin has merit and value then let it stand on it own two feet, don't put crutches under it and then try to stand as tall as the other coins around you.

The n scrypt coins are being deserted faster than a desert island with no water and plenty of boats. Their pathetic values are evidence to this fact. Not a single one has any growth or any value.

There will always be coins created by people who welcome mining and don't put up road blocks to seeing them mined, while your coins languish in obscurity.

I hope you enjoy the silence.

that's my humble .02 scrypt cents

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April 01, 2014, 10:47:06 PM
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scrypt-n is flawed

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April 01, 2014, 10:56:50 PM
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that's a great analysis.... thank you

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April 01, 2014, 11:22:13 PM
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Yeah, and it completely refutes your entire argument.  Ltc was supposed to be asic (and even GPU) resistant, like scrypt-n.  It took it even further though, in that they didn't even want it to be GPU mineable.  Did that kill it?  Nope, 2nd biggest coin now.  Would ltc be better off if it was asic resistant?  Yep.  Dev clearly says so himself.  I don't particularly like scrypt-n, and I don't think it is will prevent asics in the long run, but your assertion that trying to be asics resistant is killing it is completely assinine. 
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Yeah, and it completely refutes your entire argument.  Ltc was supposed to be asic (and even GPU) resistant, like scrypt-n.  It took it even further though, in that they didn't even want it to be GPU mineable.  Did that kill it?  Nope, 2nd biggest coin now.  Would ltc be better off if it was asic resistant?  Yep.  Dev clearly says so himself.  I don't particularly like scrypt-n, and I don't think it is will prevent asics in the long run, but your assertion that trying to be asics resistant is killing it is completely assinine. 

dude - I didn't say I agreed with it I just said it was a great analysis - like Ronald Reagan used to say: there you go again...jumping to conclusions. LOL

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Yeah, and it completely refutes your entire argument.  Ltc was supposed to be asic (and even GPU) resistant, like scrypt-n.  It took it even further though, in that they didn't even want it to be GPU mineable.  Did that kill it?  Nope, 2nd biggest coin now.  Would ltc be better off if it was asic resistant?  Yep.  Dev clearly says so himself.  I don't particularly like scrypt-n, and I don't think it is will prevent asics in the long run, but your assertion that trying to be asics resistant is killing it is completely assinine. 

lol that ltc thread is locked, hmm ltc don't like being questioned  Huh
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April 02, 2014, 12:16:07 AM
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My opinion on having a N-scrypt coin :


  • It kills the reward of the early adaptive mining at lunch - Since early lunch blocks are the ultimate time to mine , upon lunch , all the coins usually get a lot of hashpower toward them. Where does this back fires? well you will have half the hashpower from your card as you will usually have. the market is down and therefore the coin will not have a strong buy/sell. the coin will most likely sell at bottom numbers. This will make this coin non-profitable to mine.
  • The low reward feeling- Why high reward coins come out stronger is because there are huge block rewards and it gives them a feeling of millionaires. Where does this back fires? With n-scrypt you will always have half the rewards and most likely your coin will be a very low reward structure. people start to get discouraged to mine once the difficulty goes above 1 and the rewards per day are very low.
  • Danger of network security-- The main topic no one wants to discuss. What will happen when the N-value starts to progress and your gpu cards mines less and less. This , together with previous points most likely will cause a lot of people to stop mining. Where does this backfire? a coin to be successful needs a lot of hard work to be adapted in markets. more then a year before you can actually buy any thing with it. Think of doge coins. it is so popular yet it is still no way near adapting to trading good market. it probably needs 6 more months. or more. By that time a N-scrypt coin will have changed different N-values. This coin will be very hard or pointless to mine with a gpu. With out USD market to this coin, it probably would have a low BTC trade volume. A lot of early adapter would have it abandoned and the network hashpower would be low. Risking the whole network security.



Okay, i have more points but i am tired typing about this. Look at all the N-scrypt trading volumes. especially the ones that are older. crushing.

Everyone of them tries to push the N-scrypt is Asic resistant, But no one mention that N-scrypt are GPU worthless. The ultimate instamine.  Mine it hard and fast with gpus then after a few halving and it becomes worthless to mine with gpu switch to cpu and mine the small rewards blocks with it.  Therefore from insta mine to cpu bots. Nothanksjeff.jpeg



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April 02, 2014, 12:37:02 AM
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My opinion on having a N-scrypt coin :


  • It kills the reward of the early adaptive mining at lunch - Since early lunch blocks are the ultimate time to mine , upon lunch , all the coins usually get a lot of hashpower toward them. Where does this back fires? well you will have half the hashpower from your card as you will usually have. the market is down and therefore the coin will not have a strong buy/sell. the coin will most likely sell at bottom numbers. This will make this coin non-profitable to mine.
  • The low reward feeling- Why high reward coins come out stronger is because there are huge block rewards and it gives them a feeling of millionaires. Where does this back fires? With n-scrypt you will always have half the rewards and most likely your coin will be a very low reward structure. people start to get discouraged to mine once the difficulty goes above 1 and the rewards per day are very low.
  • Danger of network security-- The main topic no one wants to discuss. What will happen when the N-value starts to progress and your gpu cards mines less and less. This , together with previous points most likely will cause a lot of people to stop mining. Where does this backfire? a coin to be successful needs a lot of hard work to be adapted in markets. more then a year before you can actually buy any thing with it. Think of doge coins. it is so popular yet it is still no way near adapting to trading good market. it probably needs 6 more months. or more. By that time a N-scrypt coin will have changed different N-values. This coin will be very hard or pointless to mine with a gpu. With out USD market to this coin, it probably would have a low BTC trade volume. A lot of early adapter would have it abandoned and the network hashpower would be low. Risking the whole network security.



Okay, i have more points but i am tired typing about this. Look at all the N-scrypt trading volumes. especially the ones that are older. crushing.

Everyone of them tries to push the N-scrypt is Asic resistant, But no one mention that N-scrypt are GPU worthless. The ultimate instamine.  Mine it hard and fast with gpus then after a few halving and it becomes worthless to mine with gpu switch to cpu and mine the small rewards blocks with it.  Therefore from insta mine to cpu bots. Nothanksjeff.jpeg



Additional note: i sold my 50 verticoins for 0.8btcs at one of the hype-pumps ...........lol


Thank you for you opinion, but our schedule time doesn't change every 6 months.

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April 02, 2014, 12:52:20 AM
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My opinion on having a N-scrypt coin :


  • It kills the reward of the early adaptive mining at lunch - Since early lunch blocks are the ultimate time to mine , upon lunch , all the coins usually get a lot of hashpower toward them. Where does this back fires? well you will have half the hashpower from your card as you will usually have. the market is down and therefore the coin will not have a strong buy/sell. the coin will most likely sell at bottom numbers. This will make this coin non-profitable to mine.
  • The low reward feeling- Why high reward coins come out stronger is because there are huge block rewards and it gives them a feeling of millionaires. Where does this back fires? With n-scrypt you will always have half the rewards and most likely your coin will be a very low reward structure. people start to get discouraged to mine once the difficulty goes above 1 and the rewards per day are very low.
  • Danger of network security-- The main topic no one wants to discuss. What will happen when the N-value starts to progress and your gpu cards mines less and less. This , together with previous points most likely will cause a lot of people to stop mining. Where does this backfire? a coin to be successful needs a lot of hard work to be adapted in markets. more then a year before you can actually buy any thing with it. Think of doge coins. it is so popular yet it is still no way near adapting to trading good market. it probably needs 6 more months. or more. By that time a N-scrypt coin will have changed different N-values. This coin will be very hard or pointless to mine with a gpu. With out USD market to this coin, it probably would have a low BTC trade volume. A lot of early adapter would have it abandoned and the network hashpower would be low. Risking the whole network security.



Okay, i have more points but i am tired typing about this. Look at all the N-scrypt trading volumes. especially the ones that are older. crushing.

Everyone of them tries to push the N-scrypt is Asic resistant, But no one mention that N-scrypt are GPU worthless. The ultimate instamine.  Mine it hard and fast with gpus then after a few halving and it becomes worthless to mine with gpu switch to cpu and mine the small rewards blocks with it.  Therefore from insta mine to cpu bots. Nothanksjeff.jpeg



Additional note: i sold my 50 verticoins for 0.8btcs at one of the hype-pumps ...........lol


Thank you for you opinion, but our schedule time doesn't change every 6 months.

do you agree though that most of the early adapters have 20k or more coins? Wink

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April 02, 2014, 01:00:16 AM
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My opinion on having a N-scrypt coin :


  • It kills the reward of the early adaptive mining at lunch - Since early lunch blocks are the ultimate time to mine , upon lunch , all the coins usually get a lot of hashpower toward them. Where does this back fires? well you will have half the hashpower from your card as you will usually have. the market is down and therefore the coin will not have a strong buy/sell. the coin will most likely sell at bottom numbers. This will make this coin non-profitable to mine.
  • The low reward feeling- Why high reward coins come out stronger is because there are huge block rewards and it gives them a feeling of millionaires. Where does this back fires? With n-scrypt you will always have half the rewards and most likely your coin will be a very low reward structure. people start to get discouraged to mine once the difficulty goes above 1 and the rewards per day are very low.
  • Danger of network security-- The main topic no one wants to discuss. What will happen when the N-value starts to progress and your gpu cards mines less and less. This , together with previous points most likely will cause a lot of people to stop mining. Where does this backfire? a coin to be successful needs a lot of hard work to be adapted in markets. more then a year before you can actually buy any thing with it. Think of doge coins. it is so popular yet it is still no way near adapting to trading good market. it probably needs 6 more months. or more. By that time a N-scrypt coin will have changed different N-values. This coin will be very hard or pointless to mine with a gpu. With out USD market to this coin, it probably would have a low BTC trade volume. A lot of early adapter would have it abandoned and the network hashpower would be low. Risking the whole network security.



Okay, i have more points but i am tired typing about this. Look at all the N-scrypt trading volumes. especially the ones that are older. crushing.

Everyone of them tries to push the N-scrypt is Asic resistant, But no one mention that N-scrypt are GPU worthless. The ultimate instamine.  Mine it hard and fast with gpus then after a few halving and it becomes worthless to mine with gpu switch to cpu and mine the small rewards blocks with it.  Therefore from insta mine to cpu bots. Nothanksjeff.jpeg



Additional note: i sold my 50 verticoins for 0.8btcs at one of the hype-pumps ...........lol


Thank you for you opinion, but our schedule time doesn't change every 6 months.

do you agree though that most of the early adapters have 20k or more coins? Wink

do you have a problem with capitalism?

well - do ya punk?  Huh Wink

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April 02, 2014, 01:12:23 AM
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My opinion on having a N-scrypt coin :


  • It kills the reward of the early adaptive mining at lunch - Since early lunch blocks are the ultimate time to mine , upon lunch , all the coins usually get a lot of hashpower toward them. Where does this back fires? well you will have half the hashpower from your card as you will usually have. the market is down and therefore the coin will not have a strong buy/sell. the coin will most likely sell at bottom numbers. This will make this coin non-profitable to mine.
  • The low reward feeling- Why high reward coins come out stronger is because there are huge block rewards and it gives them a feeling of millionaires. Where does this back fires? With n-scrypt you will always have half the rewards and most likely your coin will be a very low reward structure. people start to get discouraged to mine once the difficulty goes above 1 and the rewards per day are very low.
  • Danger of network security-- The main topic no one wants to discuss. What will happen when the N-value starts to progress and your gpu cards mines less and less. This , together with previous points most likely will cause a lot of people to stop mining. Where does this backfire? a coin to be successful needs a lot of hard work to be adapted in markets. more then a year before you can actually buy any thing with it. Think of doge coins. it is so popular yet it is still no way near adapting to trading good market. it probably needs 6 more months. or more. By that time a N-scrypt coin will have changed different N-values. This coin will be very hard or pointless to mine with a gpu. With out USD market to this coin, it probably would have a low BTC trade volume. A lot of early adapter would have it abandoned and the network hashpower would be low. Risking the whole network security.



Okay, i have more points but i am tired typing about this. Look at all the N-scrypt trading volumes. especially the ones that are older. crushing.

Everyone of them tries to push the N-scrypt is Asic resistant, But no one mention that N-scrypt are GPU worthless. The ultimate instamine.  Mine it hard and fast with gpus then after a few halving and it becomes worthless to mine with gpu switch to cpu and mine the small rewards blocks with it.  Therefore from insta mine to cpu bots. Nothanksjeff.jpeg



Additional note: i sold my 50 verticoins for 0.8btcs at one of the hype-pumps ...........lol


Thank you for you opinion, but our schedule time doesn't change every 6 months.

do you agree though that most of the early adapters have 20k or more coins? Wink

I cannot agree with you because I do not know. The reason I don't know because I don't have GPU and I don't mine with it, so I cannot tell you exactly whether true or false. But one thing I'm sure is, I have made the coin as fair as possible, as I can do. If you do not agree with, that's fine.
I have the experienced from Litecoin and Yacoin, and I have taken ASICs and Botnets into account. So the scheduled time that I came up with, it is schedule that fit GPU technology.

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April 02, 2014, 01:43:31 AM
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N-scrypt : Or how to make you $5,000 rig return about 1 dollar a day in mining revenue!!!

n-scrypt - what a joke.

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Launch or lunch? What did you have, the meat or the fish? Wink


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Execoin has been showing a steady rise for a while now.
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N-scrypt : Or how to make you $5,000 rig return about 1 dollar a day in mining revenue!!!

n-scrypt - what a joke.

My rig cost me ~ 15K and I can get 35 dollars or so per day mining EXE, if I wanted to....
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Execoin has been showing a steady rise for a while now.

Yeah!  Look at the Poloniex chart!!!
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OP, as they say where I'm from, gotta show me. Where are the numbers to back up your claim?
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wittle wabbit can't figure out how to configure his cards for anything but scrypt.....

or

shilling for asics

or (hopefully)

April Fools!!!





guess what? they're going to ignore you



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April 02, 2014, 02:28:48 AM
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Time will tell. Free market will adjust. Those who count will survive.

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