Ukraine UK deal is good example how it works the financial system

[Squaremile777]

Money - asset- liability.
Great reset- UK just saved their bad fiscal position by getting good financial deal with ukraine.

Deals like this show's exacly, stronger ones will keep getting stronger and wealthy and weaker ones keep getting weaker not just weaker but also getting into more DEBT.

the situation remainds me the 90s when mafia and mob business was all over even in USA when one guy attacked then other guy provided security, no matter what the one who worked and paid all ended up losing it all - it was racketeering.
The criminals got bigger and more wealth now they don't own group of guys with guns and leather jackets but they got whole the army and countries.

Now money makes money for them.... In the scheme like this: right side.....the middle....and left - one side will attack the middle side will be depleted and exhausted then another side will offer some help by loan and support.
That model is used for every smaller weaker ones but mostly over the good and naive nations, why the rackeering and extortion not working in middle east so well because people there are experinced all ready.

Off course it's a panic when some smaller or weaker nations go against stronger ones, imagine If some small guy would fight itself against guys like AL CAPONE.

speaking about Mafia and mob culture, the trump putin they all are old experinced guys they are older then zelensky they been long time in the game for them it's like card game in jail, anyone who does not know the rules will be victim, now zelensky got experince what the world politics and finances really means.

Its all big money and power the indvidual wishes are nothing and humans are nothing for guys like trump it's just the another game like don corleone or al capone style.
You play well you win you don't play well you lose new guys in jail often get tricked into debts and others things old guys like trump Putin knows that new guys are their prey..... Also the Justin trudau could be the next one who they make low, because clearly the trudau is newbie on the mob games like that. And UK as old FISH got a lot experince with colonisation and robbing another nations smart ways.... including france the new political leaders like trudau zelensky and including Kaja Kallas of EU leader-Board Are perfect victims for them.

Btw, Donald trump got experince long years ago when he was around guys like cohen and felix sater who been jail for hitting someone, plus all the shady money deals and casino kind of things. So trump is trained but compared with zelensky....trump did listen older guys on the table not arguing with them like zelensky did everbody see that zelensky got no background and experince.....guys like trump the old timers can smell that fast.
Same goes for jail- you go in jail the old timers will sense fast If you new.

We live in MOB rule, your education or skills ain't no matter for guys like trump or Putin , If you take someone from the criminal gang really bad person who done 20 years in prison got connections and can even do bad things, this type of guy trump and Putin will accept and respect !!
That's the reality of this world and economics

[Travel4rewards]

Money - asset- liability.
Great reset- UK just saved their bad fiscal position by getting good financial deal with ukraine.

Deals like this show's exacly, stronger ones will keep getting stronger and wealthy and weaker ones keep getting weaker not just weaker but also getting into more DEBT.

the situation remainds me the 90s when mafia and mob business was all over even in USA when one guy attacked then other guy provided security, no matter what the one who worked and paid all ended up losing it all - it was racketeering.
The criminals got bigger and more wealth now they don't own group of guys with guns and leather jackets but they got whole the army and countries.

Now money makes money for them.... In the scheme like this: right side.....the middle....and left - one side will attack the middle side will be depleted and exhausted then another side will offer some help by loan and support.
That model is used for every smaller weaker ones but mostly over the good and naive nations, why the rackeering and extortion not working in middle east so well because people there are experinced all ready.

Off course it's a panic when some smaller or weaker nations go against stronger ones, imagine If some small guy would fight itself against guys like AL CAPONE.

speaking about Mafia and mob culture, the trump putin they all are old experinced guys they are older then zelensky they been long time in the game for them it's like card game in jail, anyone who does not know the rules will be victim, now zelensky got experince what the world politics and finances really means.

Its all big money and power the indvidual wishes are nothing and humans are nothing for guys like trump it's just the another game like don corleone or al capone style.
You play well you win you don't play well you lose new guys in jail often get tricked into debts and others things old guys like trump Putin knows that new guys are their prey..... Also the Justin trudau could be the next one who they make low, because clearly the trudau is newbie on the mob games like that. And UK as old FISH got a lot experince with colonisation and robbing another nations smart ways.... including france the new political leaders like trudau zelensky and including Kaja Kallas of EU leader-Board Are perfect victims for them.

Btw, Donald trump got experince long years ago when he was around guys like cohen and felix sater who been jail for hitting someone, plus all the shady money deals and casino kind of things. So trump is trained but compared with zelensky....trump did listen older guys on the table not arguing with them like zelensky did everbody see that zelensky got no background and experince.....guys like trump the old timers can smell that fast.
Same goes for jail- you go in jail the old timers will sense fast If you new.

We live in MOB rule, your education or skills ain't no matter for guys like trump or Putin , If you take someone from the criminal gang really bad person who done 20 years in prison got connections and can even do bad things, this type of guy trump and Putin will accept and respect !!
That's the reality of this world and economics

Now keir Steimer took the usa minerals what Lindsay Graham had talking long before.
Ukraine choosed UK gang over USA...don trump not happy and that's why zelensky could't make the deal because UK got those resources.

So zelensky will make UK and USA to go in conflict like this, Putin just similing Putin using old police and secret service methods like it use to be they made crimimals to fight and kill each others.

It was bad move to give all ready booked minerals to UK.
Trump will call zelensky to USA and talking seriously.

Things are not looking good looking very ugly and a lot chaos if i would be trump or lindsay Graham im sure Lindsay Graham is not happy.

What USA can Do now is to arrest zelensky for any reason because of this minerals failure and dissrect at oval office.
Trump might send arrest warrant for zelensky most definately.

[NeuroticFish]

Now keir Steimer took the usa minerals what Lindsay Graham had talking long before.
Ukraine choosed UK gang over USA...don trump not happy and that's why zelensky could't make the deal because UK got those resources.

So zelensky will make UK and USA to go in conflict like this, Putin just similing Putin using old police and secret service methods like it use to be they made crimimals to fight and kill each others.

It was bad move to give all ready booked minerals to UK.
Trump will call zelensky to USA and talking seriously.

Things are not looking good looking very ugly and a lot chaos if i would be trump or lindsay Graham im sure Lindsay Graham is not happy.

What USA can Do now is to arrest zelensky for any reason because of this minerals failure and dissrect at oval office.
Trump might send arrest warrant for zelensky most definately.

You talk like you'd Putin's right hand! Btw, did you write this in Russian and translated it afterwards?

Some facts you may not like:
* Those resources belong to Ukraine and its their right to trade the exploration rights as they think it fit
* Trump has called Zelenskyy once to talk on those resources, but Trump was not serious on what he's offering in exchange (and I'm saying it mildly)
* UK and EU seem to understand much better what signed treaties mean, something Trump's gang seem to have forgotten
* according to what the justice used to be in US (and it is in civilized world, but yeah, details) Trump belongs to jail, not Zelenskyy

[Travel4rewards]

Now keir Steimer took the usa minerals what Lindsay Graham had talking long before.
Ukraine choosed UK gang over USA...don trump not happy and that's why zelensky could't make the deal because UK got those resources.

So zelensky will make UK and USA to go in conflict like this, Putin just similing Putin using old police and secret service methods like it use to be they made crimimals to fight and kill each others.

It was bad move to give all ready booked minerals to UK.
Trump will call zelensky to USA and talking seriously.

Things are not looking good looking very ugly and a lot chaos if i would be trump or lindsay Graham im sure Lindsay Graham is not happy.

What USA can Do now is to arrest zelensky for any reason because of this minerals failure and dissrect at oval office.
Trump might send arrest warrant for zelensky most definately.

You talk like you'd Putin's right hand! Btw, did you write this in Russian and translated it afterwards?

Some facts you may not like:
* Those resources belong to Ukraine and its their right to trade the exploration rights as they think it fit
* Trump has called Zelenskyy once to talk on those resources, but Trump was not serious on what he's offering in exchange (and I'm saying it mildly)
* UK and EU seem to understand much better what signed treaties mean, something Trump's gang seem to have forgotten
* according to what the justice used to be in US (and it is in civilized world, but yeah, details) Trump belongs to jail, not Zelenskyy

I Im not taking sides Im just saying how i see this Lindsay Graham did booked resources early.
Btw, USA law enforcement can reach anywhere over the world i don't know anyone who had easy to escape from US justice and law system.
Zelensky assets are tied a lot with countries including UK where usa fbi and other agencies have strong cooperation.
I understood that zelensky try to make own rules but untfortunately usa have dominant position here.
Im sure FBI can have something wich they can use against zelensky, probably hunter biden and other matters....wich they did not used If zelensky are willing to do cooperation.


I give you example of USA how they operate:
Btw....do you know what happens world biggest drug cartels who DEA arresting ?? I tell you
they have to give away most of their money not all but most of the money then they get less sentences, and DEA will take that as cooperation. - but first If they arrest anyone ....btw all the cryptocurrenciey fraudsters.....what USA will ask is just "where is the money" they want just money they not interested to punish you or that you did wrong something moraly...all they want and main focus is where is the MONEY $
so by knowing this i can assome how they treat zelensky case.


Remember also If your money / assets are in the system of western banks or countries you see it's easy for them just froze your assets and money.
Smart way is cooperation give them what they want and do things what they want.

[philipma1957]

Look based on musky trumpeter behavior the UK may end up giving or setting up and maintaining Nuclear weapons in Ukraine Canada and Greenland.

You may get the UK and France and India acting as nuclear support for lessor countries in an effort the get the musky trumpeter to shut the f up and stop blowing his horn.

[pooya87]

Ukraine choosed UK gang over USA...don trump not happy and that's why zelensky could't make the deal because UK got those resources.

It's interesting to see how many people have fallen for the show that the clown and the idiot put on recently in the White House
As Trump said at the end of that 49 minute show: "this was great television".

So lets see what has changed, shall we?
Zelensky is still the same NATO's proxy as he has ever been. A Zionist who was installed in Ukraine to start the proxy war with Russia so that NATO can hurt and weaken Russia. He is still doing that perfectly well and by prolonging the war even more, they can continue turning Ukraine to Russia's Vietnam or Afghanistan, a blackhole where Russians go to die.
He is the same Zionist who tore the peace deal they made with Russia 3 years ago in Istanbul by the order of English PM.

The American oligarchs still own Ukraine's valuable resources mainly through BlackRock a Zionist organization that the Zionist Zelensky has been signing deal after deal with them ever since he was installed in Kiev.
So no matter what the US regime's mouthpieces are trying to advertise, US regime still owns anything valuable in Ukraine with or without the documents they wanting the Zionist to sign.

What the show did was two things:
1. It helped their Zionist proxy Zelensky gain some popularity in Ukraine (something they claimed had fallen as low as 4%) by saying stuff they had written for him
2. It forced Europeans to spend more and pull their weight more in NATO and send more weapons and money to the proxy war with Russia. Something US regime has been trying to do for decades and the Europeans have been refusing so far.

As for Zelensky himself. He is still a proxy and he will most probably have the same fate as others who decided to become US regime's proxy: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5533930.0

[Squaremile777]

Ukraine choosed UK gang over USA...don trump not happy and that's why zelensky could't make the deal because UK got those resources.

It's interesting to see how many people have fallen for the show that the clown and the idiot put on recently in the White House
As Trump said at the end of that 49 minute show: "this was great television".

So lets see what has changed, shall we?
Zelensky is still the same NATO's proxy as he has ever been. A Zionist who was installed in Ukraine to start the proxy war with Russia so that NATO can hurt and weaken Russia. He is still doing that perfectly well and by prolonging the war even more, they can continue turning Ukraine to Russia's Vietnam or Afghanistan, a blackhole where Russians go to die.
He is the same Zionist who tore the peace deal they made with Russia 3 years ago in Istanbul by the order of English PM.

The American oligarchs still own Ukraine's valuable resources mainly through BlackRock a Zionist organization that the Zionist Zelensky has been signing deal after deal with them ever since he was installed in Kiev.
So no matter what the US regime's mouthpieces are trying to advertise, US regime still owns anything valuable in Ukraine with or without the documents they wanting the Zionist to sign.

What the show did was two things:
1. It helped their Zionist proxy Zelensky gain some popularity in Ukraine (something they claimed had fallen as low as 4%) by saying stuff they had written for him
2. It forced Europeans to spend more and pull their weight more in NATO and send more weapons and money to the proxy war with Russia. Something US regime has been trying to do for decades and the Europeans have been refusing so far.

As for Zelensky himself. He is still a proxy and he will most probably have the same fate as others who decided to become US regime's proxy: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5533930.0

People like you are dangerous for system.

Its okay If you keep it here but elite done good job many people woun't even belive people like you are.
Those people who seen many things in life good and bad they got the real picture of the world you do it, but such a people not many of them existing.

And when you get lucky to get to see things and people what you should't and you still allright then you are lucky.

[iv4n]

Unfortunately, the Ukrainian leadership has ruined Ukraine for many generations to come... Zelensky is selling everything, taking loans everywhere, both in money and in weapons, who will pay for all that? And at the same time, the elite is getting richer, in the end, they will flee and the people will be left drowning in debt and without their land and resources that the elite sold in advance.

As for Zelensky himself. He is still a proxy and he will most probably have the same fate as others who decided to become US regime's proxy: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5533930.0

There are a lot of memes about it... first, they send them money & weapons and later they just replace them. When it comes to Zelensky it's written "yet to be seen".

And I think this was just a show. As far as American presidents... most of them were talking one thing to people (on tv) and did another in the background.

[Squaremile777]

Unfortunately, the Ukrainian leadership has ruined Ukraine for many generations to come... Zelensky is selling everything, taking loans everywhere, both in money and in weapons, who will pay for all that? And at the same time, the elite is getting richer, in the end, they will flee and the people will be left drowning in debt and without their land and resources that the elite sold in advance.

As for Zelensky himself. He is still a proxy and he will most probably have the same fate as others who decided to become US regime's proxy: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5533930.0

There are a lot of memes about it... first, they send them money & weapons and later they just replace them. When it comes to Zelensky it's written "yet to be seen".

And I think this was just a show. As far as American presidents... most of them were talking one thing to people (on tv) and did another in the background.

People of many years and generations will pay it off course.
How you reset economy? The great Reset ?
its a great Reset new loans for new generations.
Debt after debt that what keeps economy going on.

[NeuroticFish]

I Im not taking sides Im just saying how i see this Lindsay Graham did booked resources early.

Your way of "not taking sides" is very strange, to say the least. Taking no sides would mean to read both sides of the story, however, you are pushing one, which contains a lot of "missing bits".

Btw, USA law enforcement can reach anywhere over the world i don't know anyone who had easy to escape from US justice and law system.

Yet Trump did. Or you deny that he was found guilty by the court?

Zelensky assets are tied a lot with countries including UK where usa fbi and other agencies have strong cooperation.

I don't care about his own money. I care more about the war, Ukraine and Europe (which will be Putin's next target, no matter what some deniers say).

I understood that zelensky try to make own rules but untfortunately usa have dominant position here.

You understood wrong. He said it publicly what he's asking for: end of the war and protection in order to never happen a new one. Putin lies continuously and without such agreement, the end of this war in the way Trump wants it will only be a pause. That would be for Ukraine a lose-lose situation.
But no, Trump has called Zelenskyy to USA making the world think that he has a proper solution for the agreement, only to bully him in a hope Zelenskyy is weak and will fall. Tough luck.
Those who don't see all this and only continue to spread one of the side's lies... yeah, sad...

Im sure FBI can have something wich they can use against zelensky, probably hunter biden and other matters....wich they did not used If zelensky are willing to do cooperation.

Case for what? For not giving for free his country's resources?!

Btw....do you know what happens world biggest drug cartels who DEA arresting ??

I'm sorry, I must be stupid, I don't see the connection between the stories you're pushing.

[Synchronice]

What the show did was two things:
1. It helped their Zionist proxy Zelensky gain some popularity in Ukraine (something they claimed had fallen as low as 4%) by saying stuff they had written for him
2. It forced Europeans to spend more and pull their weight more in NATO and send more weapons and money to the proxy war with Russia. Something US regime has been trying to do for decades and the Europeans have been refusing so far.

As for Zelensky himself. He is still a proxy and he will most probably have the same fate as others who decided to become US regime's proxy: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5533930.0

That's what I like about you (despite the fact that more than 50% of times I don't agree with you), you see the different side of the event and your explanation helps other to see that part. First part makes a good sense in terms of boosting Zelensky's support worldwide but was it really done purposely? Didn't it negatively affect Trump's rating? I think that it wasn't scripted, Trump is narcissistic and didn't feel butt lick by Zelensky, so it made him upset.
By the way, how would this accident improve Zelensky's rating? He got humiliated by Trump and he didn't achieve anything good that day.

2. That makes perfect sense. It will force Europe to spend more but I think it will force Europe to become stronger than US. I like Macron's ideas and speeches but the rest of the leaders look dumb.

[pooya87]

That's what I like about you (despite the fact that more than 50% of times I don't agree with you), you see the different side of the event and your explanation helps other to see that part.

Thanks. 50% is already too high
I'm just analyzing things by reading between the lines instead of repeating what the mainstream media dictates. A lot of the times I am outright wrong simply because I have no access to classified information. I analyze things based on what I can gain access to which is open source intelligence. For example in my Syria under terrorist attack topic, my initial prediction was completely wrong because I never knew our forces had pulled out of Syria to make everyone else who had been hiding behind us (while stabbing us in the back) pay the price for security too.
But I always try to fix my analysis dynamically as new information comes out like what I did in that topic.

First part makes a good sense in terms of boosting Zelensky's support worldwide but was it really done purposely? Didn't it negatively affect Trump's rating? I think that it wasn't scripted, Trump is narcissistic and didn't feel butt lick by Zelensky, so it made him upset.

Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't but the outcome is too good to be accidental in my opinion.
Remember that Trump is getting one of the biggest things he wants: Europeans contributing more to the proxy war with Russia so that he can decrease US spending.

By the way, how would this accident improve Zelensky's rating? He got humiliated by Trump and he didn't achieve anything good that day.

I don't think he was humiliated, in fact he hit back harder and humiliated Trump instead. BTW if you want to see real humiliation see king of Jordan's nervous ticks meeting with Trump and how the Arab world ridiculed him after https://www.talkimg.com/image/qebBG but I digress...

As much as I hate this Zionist for what he has done to Ukraine, if I want to be fair I should say that from the start when they tried humiliating him by asking dumb things like "why aren't you wearing a suite" and he replied "maybe next time I wear a 'costume' like you" to his biggest hit to Trump himself when Trump told him "you'll lose in a week if we stop supporting you" to which he replied "I've heard that before from Putin, saying it would only take 3 days". Even when they took him to FoxNews to force him to apologize he refused saying he had not done anything wrong.

But these were all talks and most people may not have even noticed that he basically said there is no difference between Trump and Putin
The biggest humiliation was when he refused to sign the deal that Trump desperately needs to be signed ASAP. Some people may not realize this but what US regime doesn't have is time. The national debt is setting a record every day and China is rapidly growing and is already far ahead. This is why Trump is in such a big rush with everyone. He forces tariffs on countries, he pushed hard on allies, he pushed China hard, he is rushing Iran to make a deal, he rushed the ceasefire in Gaza, he is rushing the ceasefire in Ukraine, .... THEY HAVE NO TIME and Zelenskly did not sign the deal. So the $500 billion ransom has to wait

And that's not all. Zionist Zelensky went directly to Europe after that meeting, England to be specific, and signed a deal there.
Have you seen how Europeans went nuts after this show? They are all competing with each other to send more help to the proxy war with Russia!
In other words the Zionist won't be going back to Ukraine empty handed...

2. That makes perfect sense. It will force Europe to spend more but I think it will force Europe to become stronger than US. I like Macron's ideas and speeches but the rest of the leaders look dumb.

I don't think so. They won't be spending most of that money to build weapons, they will be paying US to sell them weapons, that will only make them weaker while it helps Trump solve the money problem to some extent.
Not to mention neither Macron nor anybody else will be allowed to become too strong. If they do, CIA would just find another Nahel Merzouk case like June 2023 and the incited violence and the heavy damage to their country would send a good signal to force them to change policies.

[Argoo]

Money - asset- liability.
Great reset- UK just saved their bad fiscal position by getting good financial deal with ukraine.

Deals like this show's exacly, stronger ones will keep getting stronger and wealthy and weaker ones keep getting weaker not just weaker but also getting into more DEBT.

You started by saying that Great Britain made a good deal with Ukraine, represented by its President Zelensky, which, judging by the general text of your post, is enslaving for Ukraine. But you still haven't disclosed the essence of the deal and your conclusions are absolutely wrong.

In this regard, I want to clarify. On March 1, Ukraine and Great Britain signed an agreement to provide Kyiv with a $3.2 billion loan to support its own defense capability and to continue to defend its independence from an attack by Russia. This loan will be serviced and repaid at the expense of future profits received from frozen Russian assets. Therefore, Ukraine will not return any of the loan received to Great Britain.
https://hromadske.ua/ru/mir/240653-ukrayina-ta-velyka-brytaniia-pidpysaly-uhodu-pro-pozyku-32-mlrd-na-pidtrymku-oborony
For Ukraine, therefore, this deal is quite good.

Since taking office, Trump has been trying to pressure Zelensky to force Ukraine to sign a peace treaty with Russia on Putin's terms, that is, to force Ukraine to capitulate. And "experienced" Trump suffers one failure after another from "inexperienced" Zelensky. Trump called Zelensky a dictator (though he later retracted his words),
https://www.dw.com/ru/donald-tramp-ne-verit-cto-nazval-vladimira-zelenskogo-diktatorom/a-71777879
stated that Zelensky has only 4 percent of the support of the people of Ukraine (although at that time Zelensky's support was 57 percent, and has now grown to 63 percent),
https://24tv.ua/ru/rejting-zelenskogo-aktualnye-oprosy-na-fevral-2025-novosti-ukrainy-24-kanal_n2756772
and on February 28, together with his vice president Vence, in front of journalists' cameras, they publicly tried to humiliate Zelensky and force him to sign an agreement on rare earth metals that is disadvantageous for Ukraine. But Zelensky withstood the onslaught and worthily parried the impudent ones.

Why is Trump behaving so inappropriately, even though his rating in his own country has begun to fall sharply? The answer may be a statement by the former chairman of the KGB of Kazakhstan, Alnur Musayev, on his Facebook page.

“In 1987, I served in the 6th Directorate of the KGB of the USSR in Moscow. The most important area of work of the 6th Directorate was the recruitment of businessmen from capitalist countries. It was that year that our Directorate recruited 40-year-old businessman from the USA, Donald Trump, under the pseudonym “Krasnov,” Musayev wrote.

https://world.comments.ua/news/germany/trampa-zaverbovalo-kgb-esche-v-1987-godu-gromkoe-zayavlenie-eksglavy-knb-kazahstana-760936.html#google_vignette

The President of the United States is an agent of the KGB of the USSR since 1987, and now of Russia under the pseudonym "Krasnov"? Is this why he wants the capitulation of Ukraine to please Putin, who has damning dirt on him?

[iv4n]

-This loan will be serviced and repaid at the expense of future profits received from frozen Russian assets. Therefore, Ukraine will not return any of the loan received to Great Britain.

Future profits from frozen assets... that sounds pretty cool! Some very smart minds must have figured out how to put this into practice...

-The President of the United States is an agent of the KGB of the USSR since 1987, and now of Russia under the pseudonym "Krasnov"? Is this why he wants the capitulation of Ukraine to please Putin, who has damning dirt on him?

Let all that be true, but what can the Ukrainians do now? Did they even have a chance to do anything? Someone pushed them into the front lines to die, and for what? One part of the country will be taken by Russia, "so-called allies" and their corporation will take the other part...

I guess you need to see this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4c-YRPXDoM