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March 06, 2025, 02:32:33 PM
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I mean, just look at what happened, when he announced the tariff, Bitcoin dumped hard because people speculated that it would cause inflation, limiting investment capacity. We saw a major sell-off for days. Then, last night, Trump suddenly posted about crypto becoming part of the U.S. national reserve, and Bitcoin instantly bounced back like nothing happened.

If this trend continues, it seems like the market is reacting directly to whatever Trump says which could mean his influence is stronger than we thought when it comes to crypto.

What do you guys think? Is my observation valid, or am I just overthinking it?

And to topped it up, they are now starting crypto summit on Friday having Michael Saylor invited and Blackrock has not sold any Bitcoin since they made the announcements of the summit. This was the first time he stopped selling Bitcoin ever since that Bybit incidents of hack happen that led the hacker dumping Ether for BTC. This is nothing but huge manipulation of marketing, Trump has become a Bitcoin and crypto influencing than what he had in his mind beginning.

His campaign strategies are con people because there is no way he has Bitcoin in his plan and all of a sudden he add some altcoins and when you look at the altcoins mentioned, they are the top coins influence by most of these politicians that build their wealth outside Bitcoin, Solana, Ada, XRP, ETH were all mentioned and all of them made a huge run but only eth didn't change. Ada almost did 2x, that's something the community will use to have their way for next pump.

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March 15, 2025, 11:35:03 PM
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You have a very valid observation,  before, during and even after the elections,  Trumps statements especially on crypto, most often reflected on the market and recently I've observed that so many persons even based their bias on Trump's moves or statements and the react accordingly.  

The Influence of the country of which he's the president is another compelling factor that may have a way of Influence on all of this, Trump as an Individual may not influence the market that much but bringing in the US government is enough to command attention and sufficient reason enough for man to pay attention to and react accordingly.

President Donald Trump has promised to make America the Crypto Capital Nation,meanwhile,following the election of Donald Trump
As the US president,news flashes that Bitcoin prices had boomed favourably.

Trump might not directly influence the crypto market but he's capable enough to stimulate cryptocurrency  adoption and growth with his economic strategy not just once but all the time.

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March 15, 2025, 11:44:28 PM
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I'd say no, Trump or anyone else can only move the market in the short term. Soon people following these trends will get tired of it, just as they did with Elon Musk before, CZ before him and others. People love waiting for certain individuals to make statements about Bitcoin but the reality is very different. The market has grown too large to be manipulated by just a few people, even if they are world leaders. There will undoubtedly be ups and downs but constantly linking price movements to events at that moment doesn't give accurate results.


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March 17, 2025, 05:13:34 PM
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For me it seems like he is just using his influence to move the market, it is up to us if we want to move the way he wants.
We have experience a similar situation on DOGE when Elon Musk was pumping the price.
The wave could also be done by those new investors being controlled by FUD or FOMO.
Even me too, Trump recent pronouncement about BTC reserve in his country make the price of BTC to pump higher, I guess he have influence about the movement of the price of BTC. Since Trump is going with his second tenure in the office which is very common among those politicians in the office to use that second tenure opportunity to store some money in BTC that will make them to have something to fall back to when their tenure is over.

Trump will do more things that will make investors to push more money into BTC because the price will continue breaking into ATH until he leave office before the price will start dropping for many people to believe that Trump have influence in the move of BTC price.


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March 17, 2025, 11:47:03 PM
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Trump manipulates the market through regulation, economic policy, and geopolitics. If he eases regulations and weakens the dollar, it could boost crypto growth Smiley
Trump is doing whatever he's doing with his influence, his voice, and the power in his hands. His tariff war is already causing a lot of harm to the market, which it's trying to recover from now, and if he offers any direct hate speech to Bitcoin right now, it will affect the market. Until his influence dies off and the people no longer see force in his words, he can manipulate the market outside using policy.

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I mean, just look at what happened, when he announced the tariff, Bitcoin dumped hard because people speculated that it would cause inflation, limiting investment capacity. We saw a major sell-off for days. Then, last night, Trump suddenly posted about crypto becoming part of the U.S. national reserve, and Bitcoin instantly bounced back like nothing happened.

If this trend continues, it seems like the market is reacting directly to whatever Trump says which could mean his influence is stronger than we thought when it comes to crypto.

What do you guys think? Is my observation valid, or am I just overthinking it?

Yes, he is. He’s staging a crisis, or at least the impression of one, so that interest rates will be cut. He wants to act differently from his last term, when he started off well but couldn’t maintain it until the end. Now it will be “look how bad things are… It’s their fault… but I’ll fix it… My glory.” By the way, plot twist: he needs something to drive interest rates down so Bitbond can go through, doesn’t he?
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March 18, 2025, 10:10:06 AM
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Trump is doing whatever he's doing with his influence, his voice, and the power in his hands. His tariff war is already causing a lot of harm to the market, which it's trying to recover from now, and if he offers any direct hate speech to Bitcoin right now, it will affect the market. Until his influence dies off and the people no longer see force in his words, he can manipulate the market outside using policy.


He is a wild card.
So he does what he wants and nobody knows for what exact reason  Grin

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March 18, 2025, 02:04:18 PM
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We have seen a lot of manipulation from Trump, starting from his tokens, which were actually a dummy and had no technical or practical value. And ending with the fact that he made loud announcements about the Bitcoin reserve, which also includes altcoins and no one expected it.
But of course, Trump bought these tokens in advance. I would not be surprised if he buys cryptocurrencies or sells them before making his loud statements. He is a market manipulator, for sure.

 
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March 18, 2025, 06:39:43 PM
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I mean, just look at what happened, when he announced the tariff, Bitcoin dumped hard because people speculated that it would cause inflation, limiting investment capacity. We saw a major sell-off for days. Then, last night, Trump suddenly posted about crypto becoming part of the U.S. national reserve, and Bitcoin instantly bounced back like nothing happened.
I have talked about this before and am sure the crypto market is becoming manipulative where speach made by US president Trump us shaking the market. Well it's not a new thing any longer. Because From the previous years there where forces that push Bitcoin so high till this current price, and same thing has happen in Trump tenure, which made Bitcoin reach this level but it just baffles me that we are stucked to this Trump price. Except there is another thing that will motivate people to increase adoption.

If this trend continues, it seems like the market is reacting directly to whatever Trump says which could mean his influence is stronger than we thought when it comes to crypto.
I think that's just what is happening right now

What do you guys think? Is my observation valid, or am I just overthinking it?
You are right and not overthinking.

 
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March 18, 2025, 08:59:10 PM
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President Donald Trump has promised to make America the Crypto Capital Nation,meanwhile,following the election of Donald Trump
As the US president,news flashes that Bitcoin prices had boomed favourably.

Trump might not directly influence the crypto market but he's capable enough to stimulate cryptocurrency  adoption and growth with his economic strategy not just once but all the time.

Trump has indirectly affected the price of Bitcoin particularly the announcements he made on his intentions to establish the bitcoin reserve which is something that have spring a lot of interests for many bitcoin investors who see this as a means of gaining from the system, however, when they later saw that he has not taking the matter seriously, it as quite discouraged some of the investors thereby withdrawing their investments in the interim.
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Donald Trump cannot directly control the crypto market he is a former president of the United States and is still active in some political activities. He has no direct role or influence in the cryptocurrency or blockchain technology market the cryptocurrency market is usually influenced by governments regulators technology entrepreneurs and investors but Trump or any of his administrations have not had a major role in it. Trump has sometimes expressed his opinions such as on bitcoin but it is not part of his administration's policy.
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March 20, 2025, 11:27:12 AM
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Satoshi Nakamoto created Bitcoin as a decentralized digital currency that can't be controlled by any individual, group of persons or institutions and at such, Donald Trump can't have a direct dictation on the Bitcoin market. That said, we must also not forget that he's the president of the US which is the largest economy in the world and at such, his activities on Bitcoin and cryptocurrency in general will definitely have indirect impacts. I wouldn't want to say he's dictating the market but I'll say his Bitcoin related activities but if we must be honest to ourselves, we'll know that he's majorly affected the price of Bitcoin through some of the policies and statements he's made since the era of presidential campaign and now that he's assumed office.

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March 20, 2025, 12:12:08 PM
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Trump manipulates the market through regulation, economic policy, and geopolitics. If he eases regulations and weakens the dollar, it could boost crypto growth Smiley
Trump is doing whatever he's doing with his influence, his voice, and the power in his hands. His tariff war is already causing a lot of harm to the market, which it's trying to recover from now, and if he offers any direct hate speech to Bitcoin right now, it will affect the market. Until his influence dies off and the people no longer see force in his words, he can manipulate the market outside using policy.


With what is happening now, it is clear that Trump is using his power if he wants to influence something. We have seen that several times since the election campaign until he sat as president of the US, where he has been able to dictate the price of bitcoin to rise and fall according to what he is doing as pUS president.

Even in the recent summits, there was no rise, but the price fell even more, and last night there was another rise but it seemed like it was just a fake breakout for others like XRP,
I don't know about other cryptos, But bitcoin is currently rallying towards 92 000$.

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March 20, 2025, 12:21:47 PM
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With what is happening now, it is clear that Trump is using his power if he wants to influence something. We have seen that several times since the election campaign until he sat as president of the US, where he has been able to dictate the price of bitcoin to rise and fall according to what he is doing as pUS president.

Even in the recent summits, there was no rise, but the price fell even more, and last night there was another rise but it seemed like it was just a fake breakout for others like XRP,
I don't know about other cryptos, But bitcoin is currently rallying towards 92 000$.

It's a rally between the confidence we are putting in the investors and the fear that is instilled in them due to the events that unfold (not even on the crypto market, but as a whole).

And we also can't brush off the fact that Trump is a wild card.

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March 20, 2025, 12:58:17 PM
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Satoshi Nakamoto created Bitcoin as a decentralized digital currency that can't be controlled by any individual, group of persons or institutions and at such, Donald Trump can't have a direct dictation on the Bitcoin market. That said, we must also not forget that he's the president of the US which is the largest economy in the world and at such, his activities on Bitcoin and cryptocurrency in general will definitely have indirect impacts. I wouldn't want to say he's dictating the market but I'll say his Bitcoin related activities but if we must be honest to ourselves, we'll know that he's majorly affected the price of Bitcoin through some of the policies and statements he's made since the era of presidential campaign and now that he's assumed office.

Bitcoin is a decentralized currency but its price depends on the world economy and money flow. Meanwhile, the government is the one who holds the money printing machine and regulates the economy through currency. Trump is the president of the United States, a country with the greatest contribution and impact on the world economy. Like it or not, we cannot deny that not only the movement but also the future of bitcoin depends largely on them.
They can't completely control bitcoin, but it's not too difficult to influence or put pressure on it, we should accept this harsh truth.


As for whether Trump manipulated the market or not, only he knows.Because this tariff war is not new, this is something he has been doing since his first term. And I wonder: when he started the tariff war in his first term, why didn't anyone complain that he was manipulating the market at that time?

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March 21, 2025, 03:26:43 AM
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Donald Trump cannot directly control the crypto market he is a former president of the United States and is still active in some political activities. He has no direct role or influence in the cryptocurrency or blockchain technology market the cryptocurrency market is usually influenced by governments regulators technology entrepreneurs and investors but Trump or any of his administrations have not had a major role in it. Trump has sometimes expressed his opinions such as on bitcoin but it is not part of his administration's policy.
He can influence the market through his statements and tweets though, in a way he can dictate the market, but crypto is also can be influenced by someone like elon musk and CZ, I think retailer getting hyped up after some influential figure shilling for their bag is pretty normal and kinda natural.
no doubt that trump's influence on crypto currently is pretty high though it show signs of fading because recent bullish tweet about crypto that he has made hasn't shown significant change toward the market.

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It's clear to me at this point that both Trump and Powell are the biggest market movers in the world by a long shot. These guys can singlehandedly swing the market one way or another and trigger massive $trillion worth of liquidations, it's quite insane if you think about it but that is the reality. If you are going to be participating in the market you as well acknowledge this fact. Not even middle east war and conflict matters as much as the monetary policies of the US administration and the FED. The US is the global currency after all. It's not even clear to me that the 2022 bear market was triggered by Putin's invasion of Ukraine. I think these things can trigger dumps but they recover, it's the long lasting stability of the US that swings the way it goes. And the reality is Trump's shenanigans are pointing to continued uncertainty, so im not sure when this uncertainty is going to be priced in fully, or if the market will decide to climb the wall of worry as it likes to do often.
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You can sort of say that but I think that it's Trump alone that's dictating the market, in my opinion, it's the news outlet, the people themselves that are dictating the market, they speculate that the market is going to drop and so they all individually think that they're smarter than the rest of the investors and they anticipate that most people will do a sell anyway so what they do? They sell as early as they can because they don't to miss out, it's the people that are reacting to whatever Trump's doing is what's making the market move, it's just a matter of perspective I guess, imagine if people and traders didn't care whatever Trump would do that they think would affect bitcoin? We'd probably a much stable growth but that's just a fantasy of mine, nothing less.

We all have our own opinion about what really makes the market move but for me, what really moves the market isn't this figureheads in economy and politics, I think that it's the people alone that moves the market, specifically what our gathered beliefs are, that I think is what moves the bitcoin market, bitcoin is decentralized and I think that the power of the people to drive the prices up and down is also a benefit of that decentralization, many just don't realize it because we're too focused on celebrities and politicians popularizing bitcoin.



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March 21, 2025, 09:02:33 AM
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US President Donald Trump is pushing the US Central Bank to cut interest rates as a buffer for its tariff policy plan.

Then on March 19 the Fed held interest rates at around 4.25-4.50. The basis isRecent indicators show that economic activity continues to grow rapidly. The unemployment rate has been stable at low levels in recent months, and labor market conditions remain solid.

The US through economic policy can always have a huge effect on crypto and it has been proven. So I think they've been in a very influential circle in cryptocurency. Trump was only able to direct through the force of news from his decisions.

Source: https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/pressreleases/monetary20250319a.htm
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I mean, just look at what happened, when he announced the tariff, Bitcoin dumped hard because people speculated that it would cause inflation, limiting investment capacity. We saw a major sell-off for days. Then, last night, Trump suddenly posted about crypto becoming part of the U.S. national reserve, and Bitcoin instantly bounced back like nothing happened.

If this trend continues, it seems like the market is reacting directly to whatever Trump says which could mean his influence is stronger than we thought when it comes to crypto.

What do you guys think? Is my observation valid, or am I just overthinking it?
It's very easy to pump and dump Bitcoin. Elon Musk successfully did that in 2021 and made tons of money. To be fair, I think that at the moment Trump doesn't intentionally manipulate the price because he doesn't need it now but since he is the president of the United States, which is the number one superpower in the world, his actions affect the USA and the USA affects the whole world. I think that it's not his influence but the result of micro and macro-economic factors. If the USA creates Bitcoin strategic reserves, the flow of billions of dollars will increase the price, not Trump.
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