Is Trump dictating the market?

[jstyler]

yeah that's a pretty interesting observation, the whole tariff thing was a clear example of that, but i'm not sure if it's as simple as trump dictating the market, i mean, does he have a team of advisors who are fed in on these announcements beforehand, or is he just tweeting out whatever comes to mind, also, i'm curious to know if anyone has any data on the time delay between trump's tweets and the market reaction, is it truly instant or is it more like a delayed reaction.

[GideonGono]

For me it seems like he is just using his influence to move the market, it is up to us if we want to move the way he wants.
We have experience a similar situation on DOGE when Elon Musk was pumping the price.
The wave could also be done by those new investors being controlled by FUD or FOMO.

[GbitG]

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If this trend continues, it seems like the market is reacting directly to whatever Trump says which could mean his influence is stronger than we thought when it comes to crypto.

What do you guys think? Is my observation valid, or am I just overthinking it?

Hmmm, that's really demeaning!!!
I have already told people that Trump's words can prove fatal for the Crypto industry, meaning that Trump's words can have a significant impact. Recently, the impact of tariffs has led to sustainable volatility in the market. So Trump is acting as a strong influence. If he wants, he can manipulate the market with a few words. So I think Trump's influence is because he is the president of a big economic country, and the people of his country believe in him wholeheartedly. So he can have a significant impact (manupulatiing) the market with a few words. Because the US is playing a prominent role in the Crypto industry.

So your point is absolutely valid that Trump is working like an influence buddy. I means his words may have significance for us because he is the president of a country where many people are holding Bitcoin. And at the slightest panic, they sell their assets, which takes the form of a dump in the market.

[Smartvirus]

For me it seems like he is just using his influence to move the market, it is up to us if we want to move the way he wants.

Not the way he wants, the market doesn’t move because Trump wants it to go towards the bulls or the bears. I would accept with you that at the moment, his got certain influences over the people that look towards him for cryptocurrency investments and rightly so. A lot of citizens of the world hold back on investing because, they don’t know what position the government chooses on cryptocurrency for an investment. With Trump making positive or negative statements towards investing, there have got to be deductions from citizens around the world and you would see that reflect on the charts.

[Luzin]

He’s causing major panic & market uncertainty. I don’t know what’s going to happen but it does not look good at the moment. Pretty much everything is getting obliterated with mass sell offs, although Gold is holding up quite well. I don’t know what the end result is but I am not feeling good about Bitcoin now. Hopefully there isn’t too much further selling but Trump is trying his best to dump everything.

It may be a little different due to the current conditions. The Bitcoin crypto market has been recognized and owned by powerful countries. So many political and economic situations have a very large influence. Although the kit is different, the system is the same up and down. Through fundamental issues, good or bad. Even we old investors should understand, so we don't have to be surprised because the crypto market is indeed affected by good or bad news.

Adoption is wider and many large companies have come in, they are not just individuals but a group. They have the strength above the Whale who is able to move the market. Some have said that without Trump the market will go in a better direction. But with Trump the market also has new challenges, so in any condition we must be able to read the situation to take advantage.

[mrkhan90]

He’s causing major panic & market uncertainty. I don’t know what’s going to happen but it does not look good at the moment. Pretty much everything is getting obliterated with mass sell offs, although Gold is holding up quite well. I don’t know what the end result is but I am not feeling good about Bitcoin now. Hopefully there isn’t too much further selling but Trump is trying his best to dump everything.

It may be a little different due to the current conditions. The Bitcoin crypto market has been recognized and owned by powerful countries. So many political and economic situations have a very large influence. Although the kit is different, the system is the same up and down. Through fundamental issues, good or bad. Even we old investors should understand, so we don't have to be surprised because the crypto market is indeed affected by good or bad news.

Adoption is wider and many large companies have come in, they are not just individuals but a group. They have the strength above the Whale who is able to move the market. Some have said that without Trump the market will go in a better direction. But with Trump the market also has new challenges, so in any condition we must be able to read the situation to take advantage.

Actually, I am also agree with your prefer comment. We know that Donald trump is one of the best familiar figure for cryptocurrency world. We also know that before US election Donald trump said, it he could win in election he could be a very important for cryptocurrency market. So I believe that Donald trump must be very helpful for us. We also know that many big or professional company will include in cryptocurrency market, which will be very prefer for cryptocurrency world. So in this case I think that if Donald trump dictating in cryptocurrency market, it will be very helpful for us.

[Publictalk792]

Influence of powerful people like Trump on market is significant and concerning especially when their words are to be used to manipulate markets. Scenario where someone opens highly leveraged position Trump makes statement and then position is closed for good profit suggests intentional market manipulation. This kind of manipulation known as pump and dump scheme which is illegal in traditional markets and can lead to severe penalties.
But in cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin market manipulation is major concern due to lack of regulation and this thing making it easier for individuals or groups to engage in manipulating like we can say wash trading and spoofing and spreading false information. By the way it is sad to see Bitcoin is used as financial toy for wealthy and powerful people and crypto space needs more transparency. But one thing which I noted that is Bitcoin always reject after sometime those who Influence much like we can see Elon case he influenced the Bitcoin for a certain time but now Bitcoin does not care about his tweets or anything else.

[Bitcoin_people]

I mean, just look at what happened, when he announced the tariff, Bitcoin dumped hard because people speculated that it would cause inflation, limiting investment capacity. We saw a major sell-off for days. Then, last night, Trump suddenly posted about crypto becoming part of the U.S. national reserve, and Bitcoin instantly bounced back like nothing happened.

If this trend continues, it seems like the market is reacting directly to whatever Trump says which could mean his influence is stronger than we thought when it comes to crypto.

What do you guys think? Is my observation valid, or am I just overthinking it?

As you said, we are seeing a lot of market reactions, we are seeing a lot of volatility depending on Donald Trump's post. We saw that yesterday, at the beginning of a post by Donald Trump, the Bitcoin market returned to its previous position, the way the market started to decline really confused many people. As you mentioned, it may happen, but I think Donald Trump may not be able to control the market or may fail. We have seen that when Donald Trump was not in power, the Bitcoin market was still on the rise, and it has gradually moved forward according to the religion of the market. However, since Donald Trump is currently in power, he says different things at different times, which causes a lot of problems in the market and the market sometimes goes down and sometimes goes back up.

[Sebas.tian]

For me it seems like he is just using his influence to move the market, it is up to us if we want to move the way he wants.
We have experience a similar situation on DOGE when Elon Musk was pumping the price.
The wave could also be done by those new investors being controlled by FUD or FOMO.

The influence is coming from investors that is following him in all social media, because the moment Donald Trump announced anything that related to cryptocurrency in the U.S television news and other social media platforms, it will spread round all over the world. We all know that demand and supply are the ones pumping and dumping the market which they are everywhere in the global market, because they listen to news to know what to do next to achieve their goal. When investors was spreading the news of Dogecoin the price was increasing just that Elon Musk was involved in Dogecoin investment, but some people thought Elon Musk is the founder of that coin. What happened now if truly he is the founder of Dogecoin, because the price has decreased for some investors not to invest much on Dogecoin again.

[Minor Miner]

^ But one thing which I noted that is Bitcoin always reject after sometime those who Influence much like we can see Elon case he influenced the Bitcoin for a certain time but now Bitcoin does not care about his tweets or anything else.

But there is a huge difference between Elon and Trump, Elon is just a businessman but Trump is the president of a world power. We all know that the United States accounts for nearly $30 trillion of global GDP, half of the financial market capitalization, and is the financial center of the world. It can be said that the world economy and the global financial industry are greatly influenced and dependent on the United States, so any statement or action by the US president will have a strong impact on the world and Bitcoin is no exception.
As long as bitcoin remains dependent and part of the US-controlled world economy, its impact will never go away.

[SilverCryptoBullet]

Yes, our duty is to focus on our investment and have a proper plan to preserve our investment, we should not blame others when we do not make profit.
Events, macroeconomic instability, geopolitical instability... have been going on for hundreds of years and these are bigger games that are beyond our control. So we should have plans to deal with them instead of complaining because complaining does not solve the problem.

Focusing first on our strategies for financial management, and investment management. We cannot start or continue our investment well and safely if we can not have good strategies for both financial and investment management. Investment management must come after financial management because with good financial management we will have better preparation and foundation for our investment.

Focusing on investment strategy like DCA, buying Bitcoin dips and we can have very good investment journey, with Bitcoin. For investments in altcoins, investment with DCA might not work well, not because the strategy is bad, but mainly because altcoins are bad and weak.

Most cryptocurrencies failed.
97% of meme coins dead.

[lizarder]

For me it seems like he is just using his influence to move the market, it is up to us if we want to move the way he wants.
We have experience a similar situation on DOGE when Elon Musk was pumping the price.
The wave could also be done by those new investors being controlled by FUD or FOMO.

That is true but the case of bitcoin is almost very different from DOGE and I believe it is only a small part of the wave that Trump is trying to manipulate. This is more about the level of investor confidence in understanding market conditions especially and the more people who panic, the more pressure will be on the concept of FUD or FOMO. But don't worry because this can be overcome if someone understands the journey of bitcoin because after all price pressure occurs under certain conditions it will find recovery again.

The level of manipulation that occurs cannot fully run in the long term because it is not the concept of the real journey of bitcoin. If we learn about economic lessons, maybe there is a more definite answer that we can use as a reference for the process of rising and falling prices, although in a certain capacity the manipulation is real.

[Donneski]

For me it seems like he is just using his influence to move the market, it is up to us if we want to move the way he wants.
We have experience a similar situation on DOGE when Elon Musk was pumping the price.
The wave could also be done by those new investors being controlled by FUD or FOMO.

I don't even think we have a choice than to dance to the influential tunes of Donald Trump at this moment. The truth is that Trump's influence is way stronger than that of Elon Musk on DOGE. As the president of the country with the strongest economy in the world, you should expect every statement Trump makes as regard to Bitcoin and cryptocurrency in general to have an instant impact.

[BenCodie]

For me it seems like he is just using his influence to move the market, it is up to us if we want to move the way he wants.
We have experience a similar situation on DOGE when Elon Musk was pumping the price.
The wave could also be done by those new investors being controlled by FUD or FOMO.

I don't even think we have a choice than to dance to the influential tunes of Donald Trump at this moment. The truth is that Trump's influence is way stronger than that of Elon Musk on DOGE. As the president of the country with the strongest economy in the world, you should expect every statement Trump makes as regard to Bitcoin and cryptocurrency in general to have an instant impact.

Unfortunately you're right. There's no one to hold Trump accountable as he is at the top, and benefiting majority of the groups and people who sit in the upper class of America and other nations too. It's clear that there's manipulation happening, though I think the main thing to focus on is the long term. Getting caught up in the day to day never served anyone any good, even before Trump.

[Plaguedeath]

Bitcoin itself should be going higher because of the tariff, not going down. This is why I hate investors who d onto understand the concept of bitcoin all together. If there is a tariff, then why would that make bitcoin investment a bad idea? Think about it, you are not trading anything from other nations, so tariff shouldn't really impact the price of bitcoin, but even if it did, then it would be just buy more bitcoins so you can trade outside of fiat world if you really want to.

That is very funny to see people misunderstanding what makes bitcoin worse or better, and this one doesn't make it worse so it shouldn't be dropping this hard. I am going to just go ahead and buy some more, I do not care what anyone else says.

Technically there's no correlation between the tariff and Bitcoin, it affect the world economy especially US, Mexico, Canada and China, which make less money circulated. Since the world economy are getting bad, people think that's affect availability of people to invest in Bitcoin.

Yeah Bitcoin price should increase this is something that affect to global, because people said Bitcoin is safe haven, Bitcoin is digital gold bla bla bla. But, the reality most people didn't pick Bitcoin as the safe haven, so the price went down instead.

[doomloop]

I think that Donald Trump may have the ability to change the market because we have seen for a long time that whenever he has any positive news, the price of Bitcoin increases in the market and the price of Bitcoin fell due to his negative news. In fact when he won the election we've seen this ever since.

Yes. Not only him but any person that are popular can do the same thing too. One example would be is Elon Musk. See what happened when he adopted BTC on his Tesla company before? And also to DOGE. Their prices have then skyrocketed but got declined when he dropped the support for them. It must not only be a simple negative or positive news but it must also be related to crypto, for it to have an impact with them.

When he announced the reserve a few days ago, Bitcoin started to skyrocket, then we thought that Bitcoin might touch the ATH. But he announced tariffs again and Bitcoin started to decline again.

That's too bad but anyways, we still have reached a couple of ATH's back then. So a little delay for more, should be acceptable. That's just how it goes sometimes. It is not always positive but there are also negatives too. I think this tariff still has a purpose on why it is created and there might be benefits that it can bring on some things.

[Furious 7]

Right now for me Trump's role for bitcoin is just creating a new hype but saying he dictates the market especially for bitcoin I don't really agree with that. Bitcoin is still a situation where they cannot be intervened by anyone, including for Trump even though now he has great influence in his country, bitcoin still cannot be regulated by anyone.

As for the market changes that occur, it is purely due to the utilization of momentum where when Trump creates hype especially for bitcoin before it clearly has a positive impact because it feels there is an encouragement for people to buy bitcoin regardless of whether they know or not about bitcoin. But hype like this clearly won't last long especially when we realize that politician conversations like this are not really worth relying on because they will give fickle statements according to what they think is profitable.

[tread93]

I mean, just look at what happened, when he announced the tariff, Bitcoin dumped hard because people speculated that it would cause inflation, limiting investment capacity. We saw a major sell-off for days. Then, last night, Trump suddenly posted about crypto becoming part of the U.S. national reserve, and Bitcoin instantly bounced back like nothing happened.

If this trend continues, it seems like the market is reacting directly to whatever Trump says which could mean his influence is stronger than we thought when it comes to crypto.

What do you guys think? Is my observation valid, or am I just overthinking it?

Definitely not overthinking it, Trump definitely has the power to move the markets with a single tweet. A couple presses on his iphone tweedling his two thumbs! Its got to feel pretty damn good to have that much influence, some may call it power, in his case it is his privlege as the POTUS to weild such a power. He has definitely thrown some curve balls like including ADA, XRP, and SOL in his "Strategic Crypto Reserve" The market is going bonkers and extremely volitile. What a time to be alive huh!?

[YUriy1991]

The movement is quite extraordinary and quite boring, let's see this old style and this. I think this is not a necessity in the market correction category. Look at the 10-year yield plummeting and the public will know exactly where this is headed and judging by the pattern, Trump has quite a big role in dictating the market in the near future.

[betswift]

The movement is quite extraordinary and quite boring, let's see this old style and this. I think this is not a necessity in the market correction category. Look at the 10-year yield plummeting and the public will know exactly where this is headed and judging by the pattern, Trump has quite a big role in dictating the market in the near future.

Trump can say whatever he wants, but he is a wild card, and the sentiment that he installs won't last for long anyhow.

It's a clear manipulation each and every time.