Are human relationships doomed?

[apogio]

This is my first not bitcoin-related topic.

I 've had small issues in the past year. My mind was suffering from strange thoughts. To avoid any confusion, I am not talking about self-harming or anything like that. I don't really know how to explain what I am talking about, so I will try to picture it for you.

I am talking about shallow interactions, where someone's ass is more important than their soul.
I am talking about posting how happy everyone is on social media, but crying when their camera is off.
I am talking about people sitting next to each other, being lost in their mobile screens, barely talking to each other.
I am talking about not flirting face-to-face, but instead sending friend requests on social media, trying to look cool to impress the other part, who is doing the exact same thing.

To be honest, I am not in a bad personal situation. On the opposite, I am very good with myself. I am regularly doing psychotherapy where I have the chance to discuss everything that bothers me. I am also kinda older now, which means I have made most of the important decisions someone has to make in their lives.

But I want to listen to you.
Tell me, do you see the situation getting any better?
Or, do we need to adapt to the new reality?

[Reatim]

But I want to listen to you.
Tell me, do you see the situation getting any better?
Or, do we need to adapt to the new reality?

no i don’t think so because technology will only keep getting better and better and will keep consuming us it would be impossible to reverse all the damage that has been done what else can we do is just make simple and small differences within ourselves and exert effort to connect to more people even if it’s difficult

[Zoomic]

But I want to listen to you.
Tell me, do you see the situation getting any better?
Or, do we need to adapt to the new reality?

Adapt mate. Whatever you are seeing now is the new normal way of doing things, nothing is going to change. See how technology is helping everyone isolate themselves from each other. You can work from home without having to interact face to face with your colleagues.
You can study in any institution from your home
You gamble from home with your mobile device
You enjoy creative activities from hone. We don't even get to look into each others eyes anymore to know what exactly is going on with them, everyone is happy from afar off.

Too bad nothing is going to change, we just love our space right now. Just adapt.

[BADecker]

But it's not this way with a whole lot of solid Americans. That's why they elected Trump. They saw in him a way back to more stable times. MAGA is the way. And it is founded in Christian values, even if it doesn't say so on the outside.

[alani123]

Ultimately I think it's a matter of who you associate with. Yes there's a growing number of youths that receive less and less guidance on having drive for more learning and passions.

After modern city life was established as a lifestyle, suddenly you had generations that were born with increasing convenience. Many jobs were not labour intensive but more skill based, everyone's kids could go to school, services like the hospital and the post office where close and readily available etc. Things kept getting more convenient with increasing industrialization and in the process also we conquered some labour rights such as the 8 hour workday and 5 day work week.

We reached a golden apex sometime in the 60s to 70s. Back then the west still had to compete with the reality of life under socialism. Interestingly this pushed the local rich class to afford everyone else more easy access to public services, better wages and cheaper prices. Life could have been the same today with some small but fundamental changes like for instance public ownership of land and services.

But we're not far from the apex. Life has kept getting worse. We work more, we are forced to spend more just to survive and and up with even less or even in dept than previous generations did. That's in spite of total production rising. The percentage of what part of it ends in the worker's pocket is worse.

So it's not to wonder that societal bonds have started collapsing. More pele have mental illness than ever because human life was not meant to be like this. We're used of getting attention from our parents, having time to ascociste with our extended relative circle, spending time with friends, having lots of free time and spending time in nature. We accepted leaving villages, getting away from nature and our close communities, this way making discounts in some fundamental values of human community, with the goal of organizing our production better.

But in the process we as a collective society let many things slip. Our labour/health/service access rights are worse than they were 40 years ago, and so is our purchasing power. It's no wonder then many peole and up with psychological issues. And what are our avenues of expression these days? Posting on social media that just want to milk our content for profit and imitating the consumerism of others. This is what gets promoted and so this is what we do. It's a vicious cycle that the system had crested.

Thankfully there's a growing number of youths that see the issues in the system's function and want to rebel. It might happen in our lifetime if we're lucky. But should we going to leave it up to luck?

[Obulis]

But I want to listen to you.
Tell me, do you see the situation getting any better?
Or, do we need to adapt to the new reality?

no i don’t think so because technology will only keep getting better and better and will keep consuming us it would be impossible to reverse all the damage that has been done what else can we do is just make simple and small differences within ourselves and exert effort to connect to more people even if it’s difficult

Very pathetic situation facing humanity.
Not to forget, tech is meant to help humans not consume humans. Trying to adapt is obviously strange and is a total consumption of human by tech. Maybe making robots of ourselves.
The disaster is imaginable already, this means humanity needs control over technology to embrace our true nature of relatability.

[jstyler]

i think we're getting caught up in a false narrative that technology is neutral, you know? it's a tool, and like any tool, it can be used for good or bad. the issue isn't the tech itself, it's how we're using it. we're so focused on the superficial connections and shallow interactions online, we're forgetting how to be present in our own lives. we need to find a balance, not just adapt to the "new reality". humans have always been imperfect, we've always had our flaws, but at least we used to be able to see the imperfections in each other. now, we're hiding behind screens and perfecting our online personas. that's not progress, that's regression.

[Salahmu]

Not every situation that required to be disclosed to people, so when someone in dip situation they always pretend happy to others, however opening up to the situation to some persons can even be a bad idea because it will become a news trend were a lot of ears will have it. So actually the idea of disguising someone condition is not resulting relationship to be doomed because human interactions is not built on revealing critical information that only your important person will no, so that's not only a reality to adapt but is a human nature that needs to be adapted because that's the only way some relationship can survive.

[apogio]

Adapt mate.
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You enjoy creative activities from hone. We don't even get to look into each others eyes anymore to know what exactly is going on with them, everyone is happy from afar off.

The red part is what saddens me the most. We 're not happy, I guess. Just adapting, like you said above. Depression's seeing a massive increase because of this fake happiness.

So it's not to wonder that societal bonds have started collapsing. More pele have mental illness than ever because human life was not meant to be like this. We're used of getting attention from our parents, having time to ascociste with our extended relative circle, spending time with friends, having lots of free time and spending time in nature. We accepted leaving villages, getting away from nature and our close communities, this way making discounts in some fundamental values of human community, with the goal of organizing our production better.

And perhaps in an effort to make more money. Because, more or less, people living in big cities have a greater chance of accumulating and spending larger amounts of money.

Not every situation that required to be disclosed to people, so when someone in dip situation they always pretend happy to others, however opening up to the situation to some persons can even be a bad idea because it will become a news trend were a lot of ears will have it. So actually the idea of disguising someone condition is not resulting relationship to be doomed because human interactions is not built on revealing critical information that only your important person will no, so that's not only a reality to adapt but is a human nature that needs to be adapted because that's the only way some relationship can survive.

No no, I wasn't talking about exaggerating in expressing ourselves, I was only talking about being more spontaneous, free and real.

[Apocollapse]

Yeah we're fucked up.

Many people consider chit chat as wasting time and wasting money because you need to spend your time to meet them and you will buy something to eat/drink. If we chat them using cell phone, we don't have to spend any money and we can reply them whenever we want, cost effective and efficient.

Now human relationships are about searching for jobs, getting recommendation, searching business partner, collaboration etc all about benefit orientation.

No one cares with the souls, we're just one from 8 Billion people in this world, if we die then so be it because everyday there are around 150K people die and there are always new people born, so we only need to search new people instead.

Not every situation that required to be disclosed to people, so when someone in dip situation they always pretend happy to others, however opening up to the situation to some persons can even be a bad idea because it will become a news trend were a lot of ears will have it.

I agree.

When someone is sharing his bad story, problem, etc, people will take it as negative vibes because when they heard someone else problem, it distract them to be productive which decrease the chance for them to make more money.

The more you share your bad story and problem, the more people will avoid you because they see you now as their problem.

[Hewlet]

Tell me, do you see the situation getting any better?
Or, do we need to adapt to the new reality?

sadly, this is what we are going through. there are a lot of long distance relationships with people that are not upto the standard of the people in our surrounding and yet because they project themselves a certain way on the media, we tend to assume they are the better option than the ones we see almost on a daily and can tell some personal things about them. the media is a deceptive platform where people decides an aspect of their lives they want to throw to the space, majority of which are all fake including the one we ourselves project for others to see. i mean, you only know what i want you to know about me and nothing more and who will project his bad side to the public?

its getting worse with a lot of edited images while the real person is struggling, borrowing of cars and airplanes for pictures that the person cant even afford and generally impersonating a lifestyle that is above the standard of the person in real life. we are just manipulating ourselves and denying ourselves of the real experience of life through the technology we have created and the more we create more technology, the more we deny ourselves of real intimacy and human to human experience.
some society definition of a modern society has added to a bridge in real relationship. training children that goes to school, come back home to their lesson teachers and then watch the TV and repeat the process for years and then deny themselves real interaction with real human activity on the street.

a visit to some locals in places that are socially deprived of technology shows that they are more happy and have a better person to person relationships than what is obtainable in cities where you have the usual 24 hours divided into 40% for work, 30% on social media, 20% for sleep and the remaining 10% for redundant activity. the more technology gets advanced, the more we become isolated.

[Darkesthourred]

The fact that you have taken the situation into your own hands is already very good! So good luck, everything will be great!

[apogio]

Yeah we're fucked up.

  Sorry for laughing but wasn't expecting such an optimistic response. LOL

a visit to some locals in places that are socially deprived of technology shows that they are more happy and have a better person to person relationships than what is obtainable in cities where you have the usual 24 hours divided into 40% for work, 30% on social media, 20% for sleep and the remaining 10% for redundant activity. the more technology gets advanced, the more we become isolated.

What surprises me is than in small villages, the situation with young people is exactly the same if not worse. I am surprised because I was expecting this issue to be kinda urbanized.

[amantmaitresse]

Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst

[Nothingtodo]

Relationships are deteriorating more in urban society than in rural society, especially the time spent between husband and wife is being affected in a very negative way. In the urban lifestyle, both husband and wife are busy with work and are also separated from their children, which is why their good relationship is turning into a bad one.

[apogio]

Relationships are deteriorating more in urban society than in rural society, especially the time spent between husband and wife is being affected in a very negative way. In the urban lifestyle, both husband and wife are busy with work and are also separated from their children, which is why their good relationship is turning into a bad one.

I wasn't necessarily referring to the classic husband-wife relationship, but also the relationships between friends, lovers, relatives etc.
Your point is a very rational comprehension of the current situation, not gonna lie. But the thing is, life seems more complex than just a husband/wife, husband/husband, wife/wife relationship.

[Felicity_Tide]

~snip

But I want to listen to you.
Tell me, do you see the situation getting any better?
Or, do we need to adapt to the new reality?

The question now becomes, are we becoming more human, or we are gradually drifting from what truly makes us humans. Just like you've done OP, I sometimes sit down, and start reflecting on so many things that we use to do before now, but we can no longer see them around any more. Just like some of the replies here, technology seem to be the culprit, but that doesn't mean everyone is consumed by it. Good old days of interaction. Good old days of good music

The thing is, this new reality is here to stay.
It saddens me though, but there is nothing we can do about it.
I just have to live this present with the old school jams because good music is my thing. Sometimes, I even wish we can go back in time because many things are missing in today's world.

Edit:

In addition, I feel the older generation hasn't done enough in trying to impact these new ones. Good communication of course can start from the home, but how many families these days even spend time together or even have a regular family dinner. It has literally become so strange in the society. Hustling here and there. The tech industry is pressing harder.

A child that spends most time going to school alone, and sticking to social platforms 24/7 will certainly have these problems we are talking about. Quite sad.

[Waldorf77]

This is my first not bitcoin-related topic.

I 've had small issues in the past year. My mind was suffering from strange thoughts. To avoid any confusion, I am not talking about self-harming or anything like that. I don't really know how to explain what I am talking about, so I will try to picture it for you.

I am talking about shallow interactions, where someone's ass is more important than their soul.
I am talking about posting how happy everyone is on social media, but crying when their camera is off.
I am talking about people sitting next to each other, being lost in their mobile screens, barely talking to each other.
I am talking about not flirting face-to-face, but instead sending friend requests on social media, trying to look cool to impress the other part, who is doing the exact same thing.

To be honest, I am not in a bad personal situation. On the opposite, I am very good with myself. I am regularly doing psychotherapy where I have the chance to discuss everything that bothers me. I am also kinda older now, which means I have made most of the important decisions someone has to make in their lives.

But I want to listen to you.
Tell me, do you see the situation getting any better?
Or, do we need to adapt to the new reality?

Because we the humans don't belong here.
Everything about our life show's that we not from here try to fit in desperately but our souls don't feel good here no matter how good your life will be.
Everything about our life is just made up the way we live and the way to be just to make this life pleasent as possible but it never will be.

The reason why we here it's because we are trapped we should't be here never.- it's like universal cosmic mistake we got here in this life and we need to work our way out from here- your cells are like prison cell-
Work your way out of here and make sure you never return back here.

But related with your topic, after few months we all gona stand alone with ourselfes and many people will be asking who they are.

But don't focus too much on this life here the next place you go it's way more important this life here is just big error nothing else.

[Zanab247]

There are some people who can solve people issues without collecting anything from them, but such people are few in our society today, there are some people you will expose your secret about your situation, they will be the ones to add fire to make the public know that you are facing such challenge in the society. But the good ones will join you to end the situation for you to know that human relationship is not doom in the society just that the good people are very few.

Whenever you are helping people to solve their problems, make sure you are solving your own family problem too because I have seen good people solving other people problem, but they don't care about their family problem, which is not how human relationship suppose be display in the society.

[Accardo]

Recently, I noticed a decline or diminishing return in the said conversation happening on social media platforms, the chats barely holds, a few lines and it ends with a 'k' then where is everyone's mind headed to? Swiping the screen to watch status and videos posted by friends. In the past, I remember having long detailed chats with friends on WhatsApp, sadly, it's hard to do the same now. People are actually tired of the internet lifestyle but wouldn't admit it, young people have little social activities to contribute to the society other than drag one another under a specific hashtag, maybe what a politician or celebrity said.

The only solution to this issue which I figured out is traveling to a more busy environment where people have no choice but to come out and talk with one another. No need worrying about what others think or do, our people says that "whenever a person wakes up is his morning". Build for yourself the kind of society you wish to be.