Fortunejack changing license and country to avoid paying winners: flag created

[nutildah]

Yes thks, at this point my flag has so many DT users supporting it (despite some here who seemed interested for 3 years but just disappearing upon learning the result, @LoyceV are you there?)

I just want to point out for the record that there are some non-DT users supporting your flag that go around trying to extort/scam money from casinos by claiming they have influence over DT.

For whoever might come across this thread in the future: only Default Trust user votes can influence a flag. This person claiming to hold any influence in DT does not. He goes by the online name "Spyds". These accounts seem to belong to him as they tend to support or oppose the same flags:

Blossom15
CreepyUncleJoe
gh0573d

Here's an example; don't get fooled:

Just for information - we received this email 13 hours ago.

[CreepyUncleJoe]

Yes thks, at this point my flag has so many DT users supporting it (despite some here who seemed interested for 3 years but just disappearing upon learning the result, @LoyceV are you there?)

I just want to point out for the record that there are some non-DT users supporting your flag that go around trying to extort/scam money from casinos by claiming they have influence over DT.

For whoever might come across this thread in the future: only Default Trust user votes can influence a flag. This person claiming to hold any influence in DT does not. He goes by the online name "Spyds". These accounts seem to belong to him as they tend to support or oppose the same flags:

Blossom15
CreepyUncleJoe
gh0573d

Here's an example; don't get fooled:

Just for information - we received this email 13 hours ago.

So just because I supported the flag like the OP asked, you’re accusing me of being a scammer–extortionist?!

You are retarded!

[nutildah]

So just because I supported the flag like the OP asked, you’re accusing me of being a scammer–extortionist?!

You are retarded!

Well what I said is that account seemed to belong to the same person, but I could be wrong about that. I will edit the 2 I'm not 100% sure of. It was just odd to me that you support so many gambling-related flags, although that's certainly not a crime. Its odd because the only time you ever post about gambling, you're using AI to write your posts. Also not a "crime," just tacky and disingenuine.

[JollyGood]

Several members have supported the flag, that is the way the system was designed therefore we have used it correctly. Having said that, I think there is absolutely no need for anybody (including the OP) to contact the CEO of FortuneJack. The matter has gone through the court, it is best everything taken care of from a legal perspective.

I support the flag. You can already see my name in the list. It's not your job to check out their employees but I was curious about whether you tried to do that. This is the email of their CEO in case you need it or will ever need it.
I see that their thread has a red warning and their account has a negative trust. It's a very good achievement from you but this whole situation makes me pity to the point where I almost want to cry because FortuneJack was one of my favourite casinos and when I learnt that it was a local company, I was very proud of them. Turns out, they are not the company to be proud of.

[shield132]

Uhhh... if I may jump in, I don't think there's any need to email their CEO about this yet.

At this point, it might not be necessary to email him because it's solved in a legal way, by the court but I shared it in case OP or other people ever need it. I only want to help the OP because I hate when someone becomes a victim of unfair treatment. I live in Georgia (FortuneJack is a Georgian company in reality) and I know how things work here. Here, local businesses are used to avoiding paying to the victims because sadly, that's how it works.
Btw it's funny that Evolution (former Evolution Gaming) and FortuneJack's stuff are the same people Many Former Evolution employees are working in FJ and some former FJ employees are working in Evolution. This is what nepotism does.

[PaperWallet]

Several members have supported the flag, that is the way the system was designed therefore we have used it correctly. Having said that, I think there is absolutely no need for anybody (including the OP) to contact the CEO of FortuneJack. The matter has gone through the court, it is best everything taken care of from a legal perspective.

I support the flag. You can already see my name in the list. It's not your job to check out their employees but I was curious about whether you tried to do that. This is the email of their CEO in case you need it or will ever need it.
I see that their thread has a red warning and their account has a negative trust. It's a very good achievement from you but this whole situation makes me pity to the point where I almost want to cry because FortuneJack was one of my favourite casinos and when I learnt that it was a local company, I was very proud of them. Turns out, they are not the company to be proud of.

No of course not I never and would never contact any of these. If something I’ll start some other legal action against them but for the time being it’s not in the horizon

[notblox1]

No of course not I never and would never contact any of these. If something I’ll start some other legal action against them but for the time being it’s not in the horizon

Can you please tell us are there any updates for your case PaperWallet?
Did fortunejack started paying what they have to pay you, or they are again trying to delay something and find more legal holes?

[PaperWallet]

No of course not I never and would never contact any of these. If something I’ll start some other legal action against them but for the time being it’s not in the horizon

Can you please tell us are there any updates for your case PaperWallet?
Did fortunejack started paying what they have to pay you, or they are again trying to delay something and find more legal holes?

No nothing, some details I am not allowed to disclose but there are no loopholes, the judgement is enforceable. Which means possible bankruptcy procedures but in the meanwhile they already fled Curacao.

[notblox1]

No nothing, some details I am not allowed to disclose but there are no loopholes, the judgement is enforceable. Which means possible bankruptcy procedures but in the meanwhile they already fled Curacao.

That means you didnt receive any money?

[PaperWallet]

No nothing, some details I am not allowed to disclose but there are no loopholes, the judgement is enforceable. Which means possible bankruptcy procedures but in the meanwhile they already fled Curacao.

That means you didnt receive any money?

Not a single penny

[Pmalek]

I was made aware of this case by Haunebu in my Withdrawal Fees and Withdrawal Amounts on Crypto Casinos thread. He suggested that I remove FortuneJack from the table because it's been proven that they are scammers.

FortuneJack has thus far been in the wrong. The verdict and judgement by the court is still somewhat confusing, though. I am no legal expert but I can still compare this judgement to how courts work in my country.

The first thing worth noting is that the court that made the judgement is a First Instance court. That means that both parties can appeal and if they do, this decision may not be final. The Appeals Court (not sure of the right terminology) can confirm the verdict of the First Instance court or they can make a different decision. Theoretically, they can request that Antillephone and FortuneJack pay more, pay less, or decide that they are not guilty at all. All outcomes are possible, hence why there is an appeal process.

Because of that it's confusing to read that the judgement is already "provisionally enforceable." How do you enforce something immediately that can later be changed or perhaps cancelled altogether?

A few scenarios: FJ and Antillephone pay the €90k fee. In the meantime, the appeal court makes a final judgement, requiring them only to pay €50k. Will FJ and Antillephone now sue the player to get back the €40k they paid because of the provisionally enforceable first instance judgement?

Or what if the Appeals Court declares them not guilty at all? What if the Appeals Court judges that FJ and Antillephone need to pay €200k instead?

@PaperWallet
Are you still in contact with your lawyer who worked with you on this case?
Has he told you if the other parties have appealed the judgement?
The document doesn't mention until when the parties can appeal? Is there a deadline?
What happens next?

[PaperWallet]

@PaperWallet
Are you still in contact with your lawyer who worked with you on this case?
Has he told you if the other parties have appealed the judgement?
The document doesn't mention until when the parties can appeal? Is there a deadline?
What happens next?

Hi, they haven’t appealed, the deadline has passed, and the judgement is final. Although they proposed a deal that I rejected on many occasions, I finally accepted a deal to be paid 233 XMR in the year 2025 (deal signed by all parties on the 23rd of December, time limit for payment was 5 business days, clearly stated in the deal), the reason was I wanted to make a donation for tax deduction purposes for the year 2025. On another occasion, my lawyer informed them by writing that “deal condition was prompt payment” and they accepted. What happened? They ended up paying in another currency (USDT) the equivalent of 233 XMR on the 29th of January 2026! That amount is 105,000 USDT, so still about 20,000 USD short of the ruling. A lawyer is working on the case to force them pay the remaining amount, so they still owe about 20,000 USD. The red falg must not be removed until they pay in full.

[Pmalek]

Hi, they haven’t appealed, the deadline has passed, and the judgement is final. Although they proposed a deal that I rejected on many occasions, I finally accepted a deal to be paid 233 XMR in the year 2025 (deal signed by all parties on the 23rd of December, time limit for payment was 5 business days, clearly stated in the deal), the reason was I wanted to make a donation for tax deduction purposes for the year 2025. On another occasion, my lawyer informed them by writing that “deal condition was prompt payment” and they accepted. What happened? They ended up paying in another currency (USDT) the equivalent of 233 XMR on the 29th of January 2026! That amount is 105,000 USDT, so still about 20,000 USD short of the ruling. A lawyer is working on the case to force them pay the remaining amount, so they still owe about 20,000 USD. The red falg must not be removed until they pay in full.

Thanks for coming back with some new information. It's positive that you have received the majority of the money you were owed.

I wonder what rate or calculation did you use to come to the conclusion that they still owe you about $20,000?
I am looking at the court verdict right now.
The court ruled that you should receive €87,750.50 plus interest until the day you were paid. Do they mention anywhere how they calculate the interest? You are also supposed to receive ANG 3,000 and 9,883.28 in other costs. At today's rate, those costs amount to about €6,154. In total, they owe you about $109,500 at the current exchange rate. Is that estimate correct? They paid you $105,000 in USDT.

Are the remaining $20k interest payments or what is it?

[Odohu]

@PaperWallet
Are you still in contact with your lawyer who worked with you on this case?
Has he told you if the other parties have appealed the judgement?
The document doesn't mention until when the parties can appeal? Is there a deadline?
What happens next?

Hi, they haven’t appealed, the deadline has passed, and the judgement is final. Although they proposed a deal that I rejected on many occasions, I finally accepted a deal to be paid 233 XMR in the year 2025 (deal signed by all parties on the 23rd of December, time limit for payment was 5 business days, clearly stated in the deal), the reason was I wanted to make a donation for tax deduction purposes for the year 2025. On another occasion, my lawyer informed them by writing that “deal condition was prompt payment” and they accepted. What happened? They ended up paying in another currency (USDT) the equivalent of 233 XMR on the 29th of January 2026! That amount is 105,000 USDT, so still about 20,000 USD short of the ruling. A lawyer is working on the case to force them pay the remaining amount, so they still owe about 20,000 USD. The red falg must not be removed until they pay in full.

This is a positive development and shows that FJ indeed showed interest in cleaning their name. If I were you, I will take the money I have been paid and bounce since that is exactly what was agreed in the deal you had with them as you stated above. There is no point insisting that the flag on FJ remain because the recent development shows that they are obviously not scam. We are different and you can decide to do it your way, what I said is just my opinion.

[rohang]

@PaperWallet
Are you still in contact with your lawyer who worked with you on this case?
Has he told you if the other parties have appealed the judgement?
The document doesn't mention until when the parties can appeal? Is there a deadline?
What happens next?

Hi, they haven’t appealed, the deadline has passed, and the judgement is final. Although they proposed a deal that I rejected on many occasions, I finally accepted a deal to be paid 233 XMR in the year 2025 (deal signed by all parties on the 23rd of December, time limit for payment was 5 business days, clearly stated in the deal), the reason was I wanted to make a donation for tax deduction purposes for the year 2025. On another occasion, my lawyer informed them by writing that “deal condition was prompt payment” and they accepted. What happened? They ended up paying in another currency (USDT) the equivalent of 233 XMR on the 29th of January 2026! That amount is 105,000 USDT, so still about 20,000 USD short of the ruling. A lawyer is working on the case to force them pay the remaining amount, so they still owe about 20,000 USD. The red falg must not be removed until they pay in full.

This is a positive development and shows that FJ indeed showed interest in cleaning their name. If I were you, I will take the money I have been paid and bounce since that is exactly what was agreed in the deal you had with them as you stated above. There is no point insisting that the flag on FJ remain because the recent development shows that they are obviously not scam. We are different and you can decide to do it your way, what I said is just my opinion.

Not sure i agree here,

Took them almost a year and only paid after losing in a court.
How many other people were victims but couldnt pursue to the lenghts OP has because the amount wasnt big enough or they werent resourceful

Taking months and months to pay doesnt mean they are ‘not obviously a scam. IMO flag should remain atleast as a warning referencing this.

[Odohu]

This is a positive development and shows that FJ indeed showed interest in cleaning their name. If I were you, I will take the money I have been paid and bounce since that is exactly what was agreed in the deal you had with them as you stated above. There is no point insisting that the flag on FJ remain because the recent development shows that they are obviously not scam. We are different and you can decide to do it your way, what I said is just my opinion.

Not sure i agree here,

Took them almost a year and only paid after losing in a court.
How many other people were victims but couldnt pursue to the lenghts OP has because the amount wasnt big enough or they werent resourceful

Taking months and months to pay doesnt mean they are ‘not obviously a scam. IMO flag should remain atleast as a warning referencing this.

You are free to agree or disagree with me which was why I added the last part of my statement that says he is free to do it his way. Meanwhile, a scam platform will not even bother to appear in court, they will simply ignore him or run away just like many platforms did here in the forum.
Are there records of other people who claim they were scammed by FJ as suggested in your comment? If such people exist, they will start from here with a post so that the community can help them. The tag on FJ does not indicate that there are other cases, so I don't know where you got that information from.

[nutildah]

Hi, they haven’t appealed, the deadline has passed, and the judgement is final. Although they proposed a deal that I rejected on many occasions, I finally accepted a deal to be paid 233 XMR in the year 2025 (deal signed by all parties on the 23rd of December, time limit for payment was 5 business days, clearly stated in the deal), the reason was I wanted to make a donation for tax deduction purposes for the year 2025. On another occasion, my lawyer informed them by writing that “deal condition was prompt payment” and they accepted. What happened? They ended up paying in another currency (USDT) the equivalent of 233 XMR on the 29th of January 2026! That amount is 105,000 USDT, so still about 20,000 USD short of the ruling. A lawyer is working on the case to force them pay the remaining amount, so they still owe about 20,000 USD. The red falg must not be removed until they pay in full.

So we helped you get $105k and you're still not happy.

[rohang]

Hi, they haven’t appealed, the deadline has passed, and the judgement is final. Although they proposed a deal that I rejected on many occasions, I finally accepted a deal to be paid 233 XMR in the year 2025 (deal signed by all parties on the 23rd of December, time limit for payment was 5 business days, clearly stated in the deal), the reason was I wanted to make a donation for tax deduction purposes for the year 2025. On another occasion, my lawyer informed them by writing that “deal condition was prompt payment” and they accepted. What happened? They ended up paying in another currency (USDT) the equivalent of 233 XMR on the 29th of January 2026! That amount is 105,000 USDT, so still about 20,000 USD short of the ruling. A lawyer is working on the case to force them pay the remaining amount, so they still owe about 20,000 USD. The red falg must not be removed until they pay in full.

So we helped you get $105k and you're still not happy.

Not only that, he was paid FOUR months ago and didnt mention till now

Highly doubt they pay more

[PaperWallet]

So we helped you get $105k and you're still not happy.

I wouldn’t be happy if someone stole my wallet with 300 dollars in it. Of course I’d be more mad if I had 105,000 dollars in it, but I’ll still be mad for the 300 dollars. The same would apply when they don’t respect our written agreement again. On the other hand you were the very first person to red tag them and of course I’m happy and appreciative about that, and for you to continue support until payment is made in full. I don’t think though they made a payment because of this forum, they’ve disappeared from here 9 months ago.

Hi, they haven’t appealed, the deadline has passed, and the judgement is final. Although they proposed a deal that I rejected on many occasions, I finally accepted a deal to be paid 233 XMR in the year 2025 (deal signed by all parties on the 23rd of December, time limit for payment was 5 business days, clearly stated in the deal), the reason was I wanted to make a donation for tax deduction purposes for the year 2025. On another occasion, my lawyer informed them by writing that “deal condition was prompt payment” and they accepted. What happened? They ended up paying in another currency (USDT) the equivalent of 233 XMR on the 29th of January 2026! That amount is 105,000 USDT, so still about 20,000 USD short of the ruling. A lawyer is working on the case to force them pay the remaining amount, so they still owe about 20,000 USD. The red falg must not be removed until they pay in full.

Thanks for coming back with some new information. It's positive that you have received the majority of the money you were owed.

I wonder what rate or calculation did you use to come to the conclusion that they still owe you about $20,000?
I am looking at the court verdict right now.
The court ruled that you should receive €87,750.50 plus interest until the day you were paid. Do they mention anywhere how they calculate the interest? You are also supposed to receive ANG 3,000 and 9,883.28 in other costs. At today's rate, those costs amount to about €6,154. In total, they owe you about $109,500 at the current exchange rate. Is that estimate correct? They paid you $105,000 in USDT.

Are the remaining $20k interest payments or what is it?

Yes many years of interest. It’s what the lawyer said, I don’t know, maybe it’s 25k, but around that range. The legal interest in Curaçao changes every 6 months. Don’t forget inflation though, interest rate doesn’t even beat inflation, so that adds to the scam.

@PaperWallet
Are you still in contact with your lawyer who worked with you on this case?
Has he told you if the other parties have appealed the judgement?
The document doesn't mention until when the parties can appeal? Is there a deadline?
What happens next?

Hi, they haven’t appealed, the deadline has passed, and the judgement is final. Although they proposed a deal that I rejected on many occasions, I finally accepted a deal to be paid 233 XMR in the year 2025 (deal signed by all parties on the 23rd of December, time limit for payment was 5 business days, clearly stated in the deal), the reason was I wanted to make a donation for tax deduction purposes for the year 2025. On another occasion, my lawyer informed them by writing that “deal condition was prompt payment” and they accepted. What happened? They ended up paying in another currency (USDT) the equivalent of 233 XMR on the 29th of January 2026! That amount is 105,000 USDT, so still about 20,000 USD short of the ruling. A lawyer is working on the case to force them pay the remaining amount, so they still owe about 20,000 USD. The red falg must not be removed until they pay in full.

This is a positive development and shows that FJ indeed showed interest in cleaning their name. If I were you, I will take the money I have been paid and bounce since that is exactly what was agreed in the deal you had with them as you stated above. There is no point insisting that the flag on FJ remain because the recent development shows that they are obviously not scam. We are different and you can decide to do it your way, what I said is just my opinion.

Not sure i agree here,

Took them almost a year and only paid after losing in a court.
How many other people were victims but couldnt pursue to the lenghts OP has because the amount wasnt big enough or they werent resourceful

Taking months and months to pay doesnt mean they are ‘not obviously a scam. IMO flag should remain atleast as a warning referencing this.

Exactly. Would you go buy a car in Poland, make a down payment of 80% of the price, then take it to Russia and not pay the rest to say oh well after all I paid something I’m not a scammer? Making a partial payment of my winnings is what got them red tagged in the first place.

To answer your other post, they were informed from the very beginning that the issue is still unsolved but it is taking the lawyer a lot of time to process my case and if you’ve ever dealt with lawyers it’s a normal thing, so we’re probably in for at least another year of disputes to get my last 20-25k paid.

[Pmalek]

To answer your other post, they were informed from the very beginning that the issue is still unsolved but it is taking the lawyer a lot of time to process my case and if you’ve ever dealt with lawyers it’s a normal thing, so we’re probably in for at least another year of disputes to get my last 20-25k paid.

I guess the interest won't continue to grow now that they paid the initial $105,000 (the principal). They may or may not be forced to pay the remaining interest. It's all down to the courts to decide.

A few decades ago, my family and I sued the country of Slovenia. The reason isn't important. We won the case but were never paid the interest even though the law was on our side and we had the right to receive it. Your case is different and you aren't suing the country, its government, and institutions, so it will be interesting to see how it will proceed.