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Author Topic: Relevance: in learning from failures and not only successful people.  (Read 616 times)
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March 12, 2025, 09:00:21 AM
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We can learn from anyone who fails or succeeds and learning is not the same as copying what they do but paying attention to the causes of their failure and not repeat their mistakes also their success and doing what we have learned in our own way.
Yeah, people need to understand that from what others have experienced, you can only learn about the route, but you will still have to travel yourself, and it's you who should decide what can be good or bad for you on your way towards your destination. What others did can serve as lessons, but we should also remember that the same things don't happen to everyone; what might have happened to someone else might not happen to you, and what might not happen to someone else might happen to you.

That's why it's important for us to be mentally and physically ready for any kind of challenges when we decide to go a specific path that we've chosen after enough thinking and evaluating all the possible consequences, both positive and negative. Life is not and cannot be the same for everyone, and everyone will have different experiences while doing the same thing.
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March 12, 2025, 09:40:23 AM
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 Some people learn to appreciate something when they don't have it. Others don't learn from their mistakes and even though they receive advice from those who have been successful before but due to mismanagement or unforseen circumstances they lose their wealth, these individuals would still want to follow in the same pattern that got them to poverty in the first place.
It's not everyone that can learn from mistakes that's why there's still repetition of mistakes but like the Op opined it's better to no just learn from one side of the coin because everyone has an experience that can help no matter their status.
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March 12, 2025, 09:41:33 AM
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All of the above categories are good points of learning because they all have their perspective experiences which lead to the achievements of their wealths either in a short or long term goals.

He who was wealthy and later go bankrupt and he who is wealthy and still standout may not have encountered same challenges so If think if their accounting wealths tips would be the same, where differences would come will be on their financial managements and since no amount of money is ever enough, their risk taking will also differ so, I would prefer hearing from those who had once been wealthy and got broke so they would practically tell me about their experience to what lead to their bankrupts then, I can take note of it and stay away from it so I don't become one in the future.

But he too who had been rich for a longer time would as well tell you about the secrets to what had kept him going all the while so if adopted you will as well keep a long time wealth successful.











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March 12, 2025, 09:43:21 AM
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Not everyone is going to be successful in life, some people fail multiple times before ever becoming successful while some fail multiple times and keep failing perhaps because they are trying to do something that wasn't meant for them. It's important not to learn only from people that are successful but also those that are considered as failures. There are valuable lessons to be learned from those that failed multiple times, it's just like how people go online to look for traders that are successful, most of these people wouldn't tell you the things you need to know, that's why I always tell people that have blown their accounts and failed over and over, those kind of people can give you good advice.
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March 12, 2025, 10:35:35 AM
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People often give good advice without applying it themselves. This leads me to believe that everyone has useful insights to offer, but most individuals struggle to follow their own advice.

This reality demonstrates that we cannot always achieve what we desire. For instance, many people aspire to become wealthy, yet only a few actually attain that wealth. Nothing comes easily in life, and sometimes the quickest way to achieve something is simply to express it verbally.

Moreover, not all advice is suitable for everyone. Good advice may not work for some people because they have different life goals. If you find yourself in the right place at the wrong time, misfortune can occur; accidents happen, and people can lose their lives unexpectedly.

In conclusion, do your best and be selective with the advice you receive. Choose the guidance that aligns with your own style and values, and ultimately, just live your life. What will be, will be.

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March 12, 2025, 10:51:07 AM
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Rather than the popular notion that if you want to grow and be successful then learn and take advice from persons you want to be like (who are still on money). How about having to learn also from both the successful and failure as an approach to ensure a right solid path to guarantee financial success.

Don't waste your time trying to learn from people that have failed in life because when you focus on the failures of life, you'll fail too. Focusing on negativity affects you more than when you focus on the positive hence when trying to be great in life, learn from people that have been great too as they'll guide you through the path that they followed to become successful. The successful people also have some things that they did but it failed them but for the unsuccessful people, they have any record of what they did and they made it hence if you focus on only avoiding the things that won't give you victory, you might just have a regular life but when you focus on things that'll make you wealthy and give you victory in life, that's what you'll get as a result of your dedication and hard work and also having a guide.

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March 12, 2025, 11:08:54 AM
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How do we see this. The idea of not taking advice from people who tried so hard in life and failed, and with those who were once millionaires but for some wrong decisions and mistakes they made led to the end of their wealth, making them go broke.
Learning from someone who has tried hard in life and failed can be a very valuable lesson to an individual who craves to be successful because aside learning what can make a man successful it is also important to learn what can make a successful man fail. Some successful people do not know what can make them fail and because of that, they are very much in danger of failing. Having the information of what can make you fail will get you better prepared for the future, not to make and repeat those same mistakes.

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March 12, 2025, 12:20:43 PM
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Most of the people who are successful currently learned from the errors of the once successful ones, avoided bad decisions and transcended to glory sooner. It is very rewarding when you've a balanced mindset from information that aren't just one-sided.

The stories of the fallen heroes would tell you of the bad decisions you must avoid not to fall and the motivation of the current kings would intimate you on the current attitude to gain and maintain wealth. The two are very important for the right attitude this remain at the top for long.

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March 12, 2025, 12:37:36 PM
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How do we see this. The idea of not taking advice from people who tried so hard in life and failed, and with those who were once millionaires but for some wrong decisions and mistakes they made led to the end of their wealth, making them go broke.

Rather than the popular notion that if you want to grow and be successful then learn and take advice from persons you want to be like (who are still on money). How about having to learn also from both the successful and failure as an approach to ensure a right solid path to guarantee financial success.

Having to learn about the mistakes and getting to hear their experiences that led to their failure (poverty after being rich previously) could be helpful. For not having the results (wealth) doesn't make them not have relevant experience to learn from to avoid making yours. You could learn in 5 minutes what someone used over 5 years to gain as experience in failure.


From a 6 minutes video I watched and felt the desire to share.

Based on my personal beliefs, your thoughts are true. I was in a gathering, and a speaker said before you accept to receive a gift of shoes or clothing from an individual, check what he is wearing. He assumes that the giver should appear in a good outfit to prove that he would offer something good to another person. I was not pleased with his analogy.

I don't judge people for what they have achieved or how successful they are. I learn from everybody, even from animals, plants, children, ex-convicts, the mentally ill, failures, addicts and so on. Everyone has information that might be helpful to you. If you are very patient and observant, everything on earth has a message that can be beneficial to you.

Learning from other people's mistakes is one of the easiest and cheapest ways to avoid the same mistakes.

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In life you can't learn everything by yourself because no knows it all. Their are life experiences that one havnt come across but these are experiences that has happened to the people around,  these are lessons that one needs to learn from.  If you don't take advice from people,  thinking you know it all you will always be a victim of big mistakes.  The best way to learn in life is to learn from people's mistakes especially when it comes to business and making money. Making financial mistakes is a mistakes that you can't recover your loses, it is important o learn from other people's mistakes.

 
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March 12, 2025, 12:56:03 PM
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Yeah, people need to understand that from what others have experienced, you can only learn about the route, but you will still have to travel yourself, and it's you who should decide what can be good or bad for you on your way towards your destination.
it’s easy to say that we can learn from other people’s experiences but the truth is that we will never know what it’s like until we experience it ourselves and we would have to make our own decisions and take actions it would certainly feel different and might even be difficult to apply some of the lessons you have heard before once you’re in their shoes
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March 12, 2025, 02:46:27 PM
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Having to learn about the mistakes and getting to hear their experiences that led to their failure (poverty after being rich previously) could be helpful. For not having the results (wealth) doesn't make them not have relevant experience to learn from to avoid making yours. You could learn in 5 minutes what someone used over 5 years to gain as experience in failure.

I thought this was common knowledge. I mean, everybody is supposed to know that they need to learn from others' mistakes. We have to always learn from the experience of others, whether it is a good experience or not. I believe that in life, no matter the outcome of a situation, there's a lesson to learn and the same applies to business, or a career. This is one reason why we should read books, and watch stuff that will help us learn. We can't rely only on our experiences to learn, if we do that we might make a mistake that will ruin us so badly that it will be difficult or near impossible to come back from.

We just have to know that people's realities are different and we cant do exactly all they did eve though it worked for them. Like I've always said, what worked for A might not work for B. This is why we have a brain and a mind to think things through. 


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How do we see this. The idea of not taking advice from people who tried so hard in life and failed, and with those who were once millionaires but for some wrong decisions and mistakes they made led to the end of their wealth, making them go broke.
Learning for the mistakes of others could be hard since your situations and theirs are not the same and also, what makes them failed could be somewhat non existence in your own case, although one can learn few lessons from the mistakes of others but still such learning can't be rested on as a good source of lessons since the real lessons comes from personal experiences
So in that case should you prefer learning from the experience of another from his failure or you would want to in the name of getting a first hand experience of the "real lessons" choose to lose some huge funds, when you can take from  the experience of the former and save your funds to perhaps some shitty scam you didn't knew? I doubt.

Rather than the popular notion that if you want to grow and be successful then learn and take advice from persons you want to be like (who are still on money). How about having to learn also from both the successful and failure as an approach to ensure a right solid path to guarantee financial success.
If such people have any lessons to learn from, they won't be broke today, I get amm before is not a property and as long as they could not sustain the they financial freedom when they hard that opportunity shows that they are already a failure.
 
That's the more reason you've to listen and learn from their ugly experience so you know how not to make such same mistake and become like them, so that your story too wouldn't be that of "I get am before" as it has now turned to be theirs. Grin

Having to learn about the mistakes and getting to hear their experiences that led to their failure (poverty after being rich previously) could be helpful. For not having the results (wealth) doesn't make them not have relevant experience to learn from to avoid making yours. You could learn in 5 minutes what someone used over 5 years to gain as experience in failure.


From a 6 minutes video I watched and felt the desire to share.
Not all mistakes are good lessons to learn from, most mistakes that brought success people down are always self afflicted and at such one can easily avoid those self afflicting situations if you choose to be discipline on your own, in reality what I am saying is that failure and success goes hand in hand and learning them from others could be harmful if anything goes wrong along the line, but if you build your financial experience based on your individual past mistakes you will absorb the lesson so well.
Maybe not all but in them all there could be something to pick from it which you can use it to your gain and strength adding to your self discipline.  I think it's much better to take in other experiences in addition to your past as it would help much more in limiting your chances of making some mistakes you've never made in your past.

~snip~.

I think it's generally millionaires who inherit money or receive it through some kind of luck like a lottery win that lose money, but of course there will be a tiny portion that earned it then hit a string of bad choices.
Definitely, it's very likely that those tiny portion of failed men were out of bad choices which they had not thought of it being bad in the beginning.

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March 12, 2025, 04:45:23 PM
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Definitely, it's very likely that those tiny portion of failed men were out of bad choices which they had not thought of it being bad in the beginning.
One of the ways to avoid that kind of failure is to be very disciplined in all you dealing while you are at the top and never to trust anyone also make sure that you turn your early success into a foundation of sustainability for your future, I have a friend who won a government contract sometimes ago and he made so many profits after execution of the contract, but instead of investing the money he was busy buying liability like car's and women's, and in no long time he became broke sold the car and his only house, now what the lesson to learn from this irresponsible character, instead making his money work for him for future sake he wasted his opportunity.

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March 12, 2025, 07:42:31 PM
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Learning from failure is one of the most valuable experiences it helps us understand our mistakes and avoid them in the future failure gives us an opportunity to identify our weaknesses and strengthen them. All we need to remember is that the same mistakes that led to our failure should not be repeated. We can learn from listening to the reasons for failure of people who have lost wealth. Successful people share their experiences and knowledge when they lose wealth which helps us learn and improve. Their advice and guidance can lead us in the right direction.
Yeah I agree. Experiences are not only about venturing places that are new to us or even existing places because we can as well build happy experiences there, whether all by ourselves or with our friends, family, relatives, etc... I think that a bad experience can also be considered as an experience even if there is no growth here. If we try again thinking we know what to do and still fail, we can try avoiding the same area and proceed on the other. As they say, not all are built on some things and there might only be one that is dedicated for us. We can seek for others experience or info but the actual thing can still be different, so we must not be surprised for that.


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The issue is this cult of success. We obsess on those still making money, hoping they have some magical formula. But most of them got lucky at some point. right timing, right field,  connections. Then we overlook the fallen since they "failed". That's dumb. Failure is a data point. If someone moves from billionaire to broke, that's not only a story; it's a guideline on what not to do. Look at market bubbles, personal bankruptcies, financial collapses: people keep making the same mistakes since nobody looks at failure patterns. Often more honest than the others currently riding high are the people who lost everything. They have nothing left to guard, no image to keep. Their expertise provides a shortcut to prevent your own collapse.

 
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i have come across this message before,  but it was on social media where a preacher talked that the best way of leaning to succeed is by learning from both the rich and the poor. he emphasized more on learning from those that has failed. some failure from people in life was due to overconfidence, pride, disrespectfulness, anger and may other. and this led to their fall. so having a chat or conversation with such person will teach you not to be overconfident in what you are doing that you should take advice where necessary. if a person is always comfortable to learn from a successful person then am afraid such person may never know about risk. so i agree to the op that we should learn from failure and not only successful people.

 
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Real success is not just following the path of those who have reached the goal of success, but also learning from those who have once made on to the top but due to wrong decisions and wrong mentality, these people fall and end up seeing them failed and disappointed.

Success is not guaranteed by all means, that’s why we shouldn’t rush into something that would led to negative and uncertain outcomes.

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March 12, 2025, 09:12:24 PM
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it’s easy to say that we can learn from other people’s experiences but the truth is that we will never know what it’s like until we experience it ourselves and we would have to make our own decisions and take actions it would certainly feel different and might even be difficult to apply some of the lessons you have heard before once you’re in their shoes

This I very much agree with.
There is a difference between having to learn from someone else’s experience than learning from our own experience. It comes with different feeling and connotation.

When it’s someone else’s, it’s some worth negligible given that, you never really get to feel the weight of the action that have result in that failure. Your completely out of that but, can only see how such decision did lead.

When it’s a result of your own action, you’re in for it all. The weight isn’t shared and you would take decisions to never want to be in same scenario again. If your disciplined enough, you just might keep to it.

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March 12, 2025, 09:29:57 PM
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Yeah, people need to understand that from what others have experienced, you can only learn about the route, but you will still have to travel yourself, and it's you who should decide what can be good or bad for you on your way towards your destination.
it’s easy to say that we can learn from other people’s experiences but the truth is that we will never know what it’s like until we experience it ourselves and we would have to make our own decisions and take actions it would certainly feel different and might even be difficult to apply some of the lessons you have heard before once you’re in their shoes
See it as a precaution, you might still end up making the exact mistakes if you don't do it right. Some failures in life aren't something you would love to experience, Sometimes you may not be lucky enough to recover from such an unhappy situation, the best thing in life is to learn from different misfortune, whether good or bad scenarios, always be willing to listen and make adjustments without waiting for experience.

Those people who failed, some failed because they had nothing to sharpen their blunt edges, the mistakes they made was because they never had an instance to look up to, if lucky to have an experience to relate on when facing similar issue, all seriousness and discipline must be made to escape from such failures, it's easier to fail in life than to succeed, a single mistake can ruin a bright future.

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