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Greetings Everyone! I hope you're all doing well!

I was unaware until recently that there was no mobile browsing option available to the community.

Today I am excited to unveil a working demo of a mobile browser for Bitcointalk that I have created Cheesy




Man that is a pretty sweet logo if I may say so myself! Smiley I made that back in 2019 for the 10th anniversary art contest.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5193860.msg52795174#msg52795174

My other contribution for the contest was the Bitcointalk 10th Anniversary Dash HTML5 game!!!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5193860.msg53144771#msg53144771

Now that you're a little more familiar with some of my work, let's check out my latest and greatest! Cheesy

The Bitcointalk Mobile Browser!

As you see above it's a simple interface, a drop down menu of forum sections, an input box where
you can view the current forum section / or enter a new one manually and tap the GO button.

Page back and foward controls are represented as double arrows <<   >> and the current page number is shown (p.1)

In the second image you see I have selected Goods from the drop down menu and pressed the Go button to access the Goods section of the forum.

Above, starting at the top left, each topic begins with it's designated icons, followed by the subject of the topic in bold.
The next line we see the user who started the topic, followed by the ( number of replies, and ( number of views).
The next line shows the last reply, timestamp, and poster.


Here we see how a quote in presented in the mobile browser



And how a block of code is presented in the mobile browser


 
I have invested a lot of time to ensure there are no issues, but this should still be considered a BETA demo.
I have also created two demo sites, just in case! Smiley Try them both and see which is faster for you.




Links:

Main: https://bt.coolstorage.org

Mirror: https://bt.irlbtc.com



How it works:

No APP required, use your standard mobile web browser.

The CoolStorage server requests the Bitcointalk servers page as a guest user.

The page content is then strategically parsed, reformatted to fit the mobile theme, and is then displayed.

In most cases, the OP of each topic can be read in reader format as well as standard format, you
should see a "reader view available" notice in the url bar when it is available!

When reading a topic, user quotes and code snippets are presented in a different background
color to easily differentiate between users comments, blocks of code, and replies.

Each page that is viewed is cached for a duration of 60 seconds for performance purposes.
This ensures the Bitcointalk server is not being queried with identical requests.
The caching system can help lower server load over time as well.


Known issues: Certain links will lead to an empty page because the web app will only accepts numeric data to locate the boards or topics in query.
When viewing a topic, the # links to access specific posts within that topic do not work. The All posts option also does not work.


This demo is my "Proof of Work" so to speak, to show that even though I do not have access to the
Bitcointalk source, with my skills, I am still able to create an effective mobile browsing experience.


If I can do this without direct access, imagine what I can do with the user interface directly! Cool

Observations:

This is an iconic forum and providing a theme that is pleasant to use on mobile devices is important.

I am sure there is already work being done in some capacity to accomplish this goal, either through
new forum updates or other options. I am definitely not trying to step on anyone's toes here.

I simply discovered a problem and have developed a solution.

The forum in it's current state performs excellent, I would go as far as to say that it would be foolish
to change any source code at this point other than purely cosmetic updates to the user interface.

Proposal:

I would like to propose that I create two new themes for the community.
I have the skills to get this job done right and will take great pride in doing so!
It would be an honor for me to have this iconic website listed in my portfolio of work.
By using an empty install of the same forum version, I can create a mobile and updated standard theme for the forum
that can be placed without editing any of the forum source code and without any downtime or compatibility issues.
(This is assuming the forum software has the option to offer user selection of different themes)

The community could then select between the classic, new standard, or new mobile themes.

Alternatively the mobile browser could be further enhanced and CoolStorage can continue to host it or it could be set up on it's
own subdomain like m.bitcointalk.org to be a stand alone mobile browsing solution for the community,
It could also be integrated directly, and with some more work, would function just like the original forum.

I could make the app only browse board sections and when a topic is selected to be viewed the browser
will be directed to the forum page instead of the mobile app view. Doing this would allow users to be
signed in on the forum while still using the mobile app to navigate the forum sections.

Lots of possibilities! Please let me know if you have any questions or issues! Thank you!


Am I hired?  Cheesy



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March 13, 2025, 09:10:51 PM
 #2

I tried checking it out momentarily, here is what I observed in a couple of minutes

1. The signature space or codes are out of place. Perhaps if you could get away of resizing them
2. The theme makes my navigation buttons at the bottom of the screen display almost invisible. Maybe because the colours are similar
3. How about Sub-board. I can't seem to get away of accessing them.

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This is interesting project since more people are using mobile devices these days, but I already noticed something I don't like.
First is bright white theme that hurts my eyes, and second thing I saw was bad signatures, or they are distorted and not shown correctly.
Pages are opening slower than I would like, but that could be for different reasons connected with hosting.
Can this be applied directly with bitcointalk domain as separate optional theme?

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March 13, 2025, 11:11:52 PM
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This is a massive and an interesting project for the community. Thanks OP, you have done great for the community. I have used it and understand that alot of work is put into the project.
But I am sorry to say one thing; it seems that we are all accustomed to this present formation of the forum, any other thing might not make sense to us, which is the reason the long awaited epochtalk failed.

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If I can do this without direct access, imagine what I can do with the user interface directly! Cool
Can you come up with a fake reply window/page [without a direct access] to showcase how it can look and feel when someone tries to use this function [e.g. editing part of the quotes or using different standard posting options]?
- FWIW, I really like what you've done so far, but unfortunately, I'm out of sMerits.

By using an empty install of the same forum version, I can create a mobile and updated standard theme for the forum
that can be placed without editing any of the forum source code and without any downtime or compatibility issues.
(This is assuming the forum software has the option to offer user selection of different themes)
I don't know much about coding stuff, but considering that this forum has been heavily modified, I don't think an empty install of the same SMF version is going to be enough.
- The current forum software has the option to change themes, but it's disabled (you can find it in the "Look and Layout Preferences" section of your profile).

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I tried checking it out momentarily, here is what I observed in a couple of minutes

1. The signature space or codes are out of place. Perhaps if you could get away of resizing them
2. The theme makes my navigation buttons at the bottom of the screen display almost invisible. Maybe because the colours are similar
3. How about Sub-board. I can't seem to get away of accessing them.

4. There is no page for profile, if you click on a profile, it will lead to the original Bitcointalk profile page.

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Hey guys Smiley thank you for the replies, normally I would quote everyone and respond individually, however, I am running short on time, my apologies.

I was unaware signatures were not shown in certain boards and had them displayed everywhere, I then removed signatures from all boards on the mobile browser for now.

The numbers are in for the first day of the mobile browser demo and they served over 21k page requests between the two demo sites!

What I have done here, is instead of posting some text stating my qualifications, I have presented a working demo, and this demo is my job application guys. Thanks, have a good one! Cheesy



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I think this is a great initiative, we do need a mobile responsive interface and this might just be the stepping stone for this. Using this forum on mobile is tough to type in, but I am sure developers like the OP will be able to come up with some solutions.

I am not sure about that "job" lining because if you want to do it it would have to be done by you, maybe some of the users can donate to help but probably not like a job.

 
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Proposal:

I would like to propose that I create two new themes for the community.
I have the skills to get this job done right and will take great pride in doing so!
It would be an honor for me to have this iconic website listed in my portfolio of work.
By using an empty install of the same forum version, I can create a mobile and updated standard theme for the forum
that can be placed without editing any of the forum source code and without any downtime or compatibility issues.
(This is assuming the forum software has the option to offer user selection of different themes)

The community could then select between the classic, new standard, or new mobile themes.


The idea is good. But, as I remember how the SMF version used works, the forum template is directly integrated with many of its features. That's why the option to change themes was disabled, as using another theme would remove functions or break the changes made.

To do this, you would need to have access to the source code of the entire forum, something that the administration does not want to share for security reasons. The current theme, although visually similar to the original SMF, is very different in terms of code from the original.

I could be wrong, but this is what I remember from when I used SMF on the forums I had. In fact, it was because the forum design was interconnected with the source code that most forums at the time did not allow changing the theme. Unless they didn't make any code changes.

But, I could be wrong. @PowerGlove might be able to check this out, as he's been messing with SMF more recently.

 
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I wish there was an Android or iOS app of this.

There is not much I can do about iOS, but if you want this published on the Play Store then contact me for pricing.

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This reminded me of an older app that fahbil created back in 2018 for Android. But I think yours looks better.

What I noticed is that if you click on one of the quote links, the app takes you to a blank page with nothing than the blue background on it. Perhaps that's something you can look into.
There is a thread in Meta that compares Bitcointalk and Altcoinstalk. The OP of that thread gave an example how Altcoinstalk has a button you can click on to copy a whole quote/code for easier pasting elsewhere. Maybe that's something you can do as well.

Great initiative with the app, thanks for creating one. The biggest issue with using the forum on a phone remains quoting to and editing parts of someone's post. That's never going to be as easy on a phone as it is from a computer because you have to make the selection with your fingers. 

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Your topic immediately gained my attention, thank you very much for this cool project. It's my dream to have a Bitcointalk Application for smartphones. When I was starting my UI/UX design journey, I created Bitcointalk's mobile app UI/UX concept, I'll be happy if you check my thread and rate my design - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5309058

I appreciate the effort that you put into it but it's sad that we can't log in and post from your modified design but it's a good way to check Bitcointalk and read posts when we are with our smartphone. If you are interested in and capable of implementing a good UI/UX design for your project, I think that we can work together. If there is a big demand, I can dedicate my time to create a very good UI/UX design for Bitcointalk.

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Great initiative OP. Had a quick glimpse, I would say it looked decent enough, although it needs some more work to be done. So we select the board and press the go button right? And what's the number is used for? What does it do? Also the profile image isn't showing properly, maybe like 70% of it is shown..





This reminded me of an older app that fahbil created back in 2018 for Android. But I think yours looks better.

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Some nice job you have got here. I love the outer padding around those borders. Your effort is recommendable. This view is more convenient than having to move your screen from left to right each time you try to get some hidden contents at the far right or left of the screen.

Having a drop-down list for different boards too seems even better on mobile view. The UI design is eye catching. It does attracts attention from afar.

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Nice integration.the view point does fit exactly for all mobile screen sizes and one thing I like is the SMF kind of aura or touch is still very much pronounced. However the only thing I don't really like is the display of profile info on the left side of a post. Basically it looks somewhat like that part was quite cropped and the odd compensation towards it was a vertical stretch.

After this I'll try running it again in desktop mode to see how much differences would be made in view point. Besides it's kind of gonna take a while too for someone to master toggling across boards and constantly having to hit the "Go" button.
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I just tried it on desktop mode and it seems more responsive and organised to me Grin

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As someone who uses Bitcointalk on their phone regularly and find it a bit of a struggle, this looks great! It looks like a simplified (in a good way) Tapatalk forum website, those who are familiar woth it might agree. You've done a great job and I personally would love if we have an official m. mirror for Bitcointalk. The truth is that more and more people use their smartphones nowadays, and it's a shame that this forum hasn't taken that into consideration. It would make things a lot more convenient and efficient, and perhaps could also lead to increased traffic.

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I tried checking it out momentarily, here is what I observed in a couple of minutes

1. The signature space or codes are out of place. Perhaps if you could get away of resizing them
2. The theme makes my navigation buttons at the bottom of the screen display almost invisible. Maybe because the colours are similar
3. How about Sub-board. I can't seem to get away of accessing them.

Hey buddy Smiley thank you for the feedback! I focused on main boards for the demo, but you can also manually enter any board number and tap go to access that sub-board for now.


This is interesting project since more people are using mobile devices these days, but I already noticed something I don't like.
First is bright white theme that hurts my eyes, and second thing I saw was bad signatures, or they are distorted and not shown correctly.
Pages are opening slower than I would like, but that could be for different reasons connected with hosting.
Can this be applied directly with bitcointalk domain as separate optional theme?

Hey buddy Smiley I appreciate your feedback, I used the original forum colors in the mobile theme, it may be a screen brightness issue for you.
Yes many options, I can integrate it, it would be easier to do if the theme selection option can be enabled, also I can easily add a light/dark theme switch which would solve your concerns. Thanks!


This is a massive and an interesting project for the community. Thanks OP, you have done great for the community. I have used it and understand that alot of work is put into the project.
But I am sorry to say one thing; it seems that we are all accustomed to this present formation of the forum, any other thing might not make sense to us, which is the reason the long awaited epochtalk failed.

Hey buddy! Thank you for the kind words Smiley I feel your concerns, I am not familiar with the current state of things, that's why I wanted t be clear that I am not trying to step on any toes here. Thanks again!


If I can do this without direct access, imagine what I can do with the user interface directly! Cool
Can you come up with a fake reply window/page [without a direct access] to showcase how it can look and feel when someone tries to use this function [e.g. editing part of the quotes or using different standard posting options]?
- FWIW, I really like what you've done so far, but unfortunately, I'm out of sMerits.

By using an empty install of the same forum version, I can create a mobile and updated standard theme for the forum
that can be placed without editing any of the forum source code and without any downtime or compatibility issues.
(This is assuming the forum software has the option to offer user selection of different themes)
I don't know much about coding stuff, but considering that this forum has been heavily modified, I don't think an empty install of the same SMF version is going to be enough.
- The current forum software has the option to change themes, but it's disabled (you can find it in the "Look and Layout Preferences" section of your profile).

Hey buddy! Smiley Thank you for the interest and feedback! I absolutely could make mock ups of forms, I'd start with the login page. Thank you for the kind words!
Yes, the easiest way would be to add another theme in there, however, if due to customization's it's not possible, there are still other options for direct integration. Cheesy


I tried checking it out momentarily, here is what I observed in a couple of minutes

1. The signature space or codes are out of place. Perhaps if you could get away of resizing them
2. The theme makes my navigation buttons at the bottom of the screen display almost invisible. Maybe because the colours are similar
3. How about Sub-board. I can't seem to get away of accessing them.

4. There is no page for profile, if you click on a profile, it will lead to the original Bitcointalk profile page.

Hey buddy Smiley I greatly appreciate your feedback, yes, all community member links in the mobile browser lead to the actual forum pages, thank you!


I think this is a great initiative, we do need a mobile responsive interface and this might just be the stepping stone for this. Using this forum on mobile is tough to type in, but I am sure developers like the OP will be able to come up with some solutions.

I am not sure about that "job" lining because if you want to do it it would have to be done by you, maybe some of the users can donate to help but probably not like a job.

Hey buddy Smiley thank you for the feedback and the kind words, I am sure we will work something out! Cheesy


Proposal:

I would like to propose that I create two new themes for the community.
I have the skills to get this job done right and will take great pride in doing so!
It would be an honor for me to have this iconic website listed in my portfolio of work.
By using an empty install of the same forum version, I can create a mobile and updated standard theme for the forum
that can be placed without editing any of the forum source code and without any downtime or compatibility issues.
(This is assuming the forum software has the option to offer user selection of different themes)

The community could then select between the classic, new standard, or new mobile themes.


The idea is good. But, as I remember how the SMF version used works, the forum template is directly integrated with many of its features. That's why the option to change themes was disabled, as using another theme would remove functions or break the changes made.

To do this, you would need to have access to the source code of the entire forum, something that the administration does not want to share for security reasons. The current theme, although visually similar to the original SMF, is very different in terms of code from the original.

I could be wrong, but this is what I remember from when I used SMF on the forums I had. In fact, it was because the forum design was interconnected with the source code that most forums at the time did not allow changing the theme. Unless they didn't make any code changes.

But, I could be wrong. @PowerGlove might be able to check this out, as he's been messing with SMF more recently.


Hey buddy Smiley I greatly appreciate the interest and feedback, thank you! If the theme IS hard coded "so to speak" it would still be easy for me to make an integrated mobile version.
Many options, I would replace the original forums login page with a mobile detect library, from that new login page you are directed to either the original login or mobile login with your flag marked as mobile=1 for example.
The easiest way would be to mirror the current site to a sub domain like m.bitcointalk.org and then just edit the user interface from there. They could share the same database once it's completed also.
I am confident in saying that if/when theymos asks the most trusted members of the community (those who know me of course heheh) they will vouch for me. Cheesy


I wish there was an Android or iOS app of this.

There is not much I can do about iOS, but if you want this published on the Play Store then contact me for pricing.

Hey buddy thanks for the feedback and offer, I think it should remain decentralized, requiring an app store is not an option IMO. Cool


This reminded me of an older app that fahbil created back in 2018 for Android. But I think yours looks better.

What I noticed is that if you click on one of the quote links, the app takes you to a blank page with nothing than the blue background on it. Perhaps that's something you can look into.
There is a thread in Meta that compares Bitcointalk and Altcoinstalk. The OP of that thread gave an example how Altcoinstalk has a button you can click on to copy a whole quote/code for easier pasting elsewhere. Maybe that's something you can do as well.

Great initiative with the app, thanks for creating one. The biggest issue with using the forum on a phone remains quoting to and editing parts of someone's post. That's never going to be as easy on a phone as it is from a computer because you have to make the selection with your fingers.  

Hey buddy Smiley thank you for the feedback and interest! See known issues section in OP. I greatly appreciate the kind words, yes I will include a copy button in all quotes and code sections, thanks!


Your topic immediately gained my attention, thank you very much for this cool project. It's my dream to have a Bitcointalk Application for smartphones. When I was starting my UI/UX design journey, I created Bitcointalk's mobile app UI/UX concept, I'll be happy if you check my thread and rate my design - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5309058

I appreciate the effort that you put into it but it's sad that we can't log in and post from your modified design but it's a good way to check Bitcointalk and read posts when we are with our smartphone. If you are interested in and capable of implementing a good UI/UX design for your project, I think that we can work together. If there is a big demand, I can dedicate my time to create a very good UI/UX design for Bitcointalk.

Hey buddy Smiley thank you for the interest and kind words, greatly appreciated! I would like to make that a reality for the community. I am going to remain solo on this one, too many cooks as they say, but I do have another project I made for the community that could use a facelift if you'd like to show off some skills there? Let me know if you're interested, thanks! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5410693


Great initiative OP. Had a quick glimpse, I would say it looked decent enough, although it needs some more work to be done. So we select the board and press the go button right? And what's the number is used for? What does it do? Also the profile image isn't showing properly, maybe like 70% of it is shown..



This reminded me of an older app that fahbil created back in 2018 for Android. But I think yours looks better.

Android app?  Huh
Afaik, it's not an Android app but an addon/extension which resizes the site using CSS and JavaScript locally. I know this because I have been using this extension for more than a years now. Although it has some minor bugs (some PM doesn't show up, must disable the extension first in order to see it) but it gets the rest of the job done easily.


Hey buddy Smiley thank you for the kind words and feedback! It's definitely far from complete. For now, if you rotate your phone I guarantee you will see everyone's whole profile image  Grin


Some nice job you have got here. I love the outer padding around those borders. Your effort is recommendable. This view is more convenient than having to move your screen from left to right each time you try to get some hidden contents at the far right or left of the screen.

Having a drop-down list for different boards too seems even better on mobile view. The UI design is eye catching. It does attracts attention from afar.

Hey buddy Smiley thank you for the kind words, greatly appreciated! That last sentence is gold!


Nice integration.the view point does fit exactly for all mobile screen sizes and one thing I like is the SMF kind of aura or touch is still very much pronounced. However the only thing I don't really like is the display of profile info on the left side of a post. Basically it looks somewhat like that part was quite cropped and the odd compensation towards it was a vertical stretch.

After this I'll try running it again in desktop mode to see how much differences would be made in view point. Besides it's kind of gonna take a while too for someone to master toggling across boards and constantly having to hit the "Go" button.
Edit:
I just tried it on desktop mode and it seems more responsive and organised to me Grin

Hey buddy thanks for the kinds words and feedback! I would disagree that selecting the board and tapping Go on the mobile browser is more work than navigating the original forum on mobile!


As someone who uses Bitcointalk on their phone regularly and find it a bit of a struggle, this looks great! It looks like a simplified (in a good way) Tapatalk forum website, those who are familiar woth it might agree. You've done a great job and I personally would love if we have an official m. mirror for Bitcointalk. The truth is that more and more people use their smartphones nowadays, and it's a shame that this forum hasn't taken that into consideration. It would make things a lot more convenient and efficient, and perhaps could also lead to increased traffic.

Hey buddy! Thank you for the feedback! Your kind words are greatly appreciated! Cheesy


Second day in the books! I can revealed we've got some bot net activity, taking that into consideration, the first days numbers are probably inflated from the bots. We're at around 13k pages served between the two demo sites for day 2.

Thanks again everyone, have a good one! Cheesy

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Hey buddy Smiley I greatly appreciate the interest and feedback, thank you! If the theme IS hard coded "so to speak" it would still be easy for me to make an integrated mobile version.
Many options, I would replace the original forums login page with a mobile detect library, from that new login page you are directed to either the original login or mobile login with your flag marked as mobile=1 for example.
The easiest way would be to mirror the current site to a sub domain like m.bitcointalk.org and then just edit the user interface from there. They could share the same database once it's completed also.
I am confident in saying that if/when theymos asks the most trusted members of the community (those who know me of course heheh) they will vouch for me. Cheesy

I'm not questioning your reliability. Just saying that theymos does not share the forum's source code with anyone, due to the security modifications that were made. Not even PowerGlove has access to this, he works "blindly" on his edits.

In turn, what you propose is a "clone" website with a responsive template. The problem would be ensuring the same functionality if you don't have access to the current source code.

But you might be able to convince him.


 
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Believe it or not, Devs of old SMF software that this forum is based on had the forethought to create a version for small screen devices. Back then I don't even think they had smartphones in mind though. Probably they considered this version for the old phones that had a T9 keyboard, a 2 inch screen at best and just scrapped by with internet access over 2G maybe. Think Nokia, Sony Ericson, Motorola flip phones etc. No interaction options either, read only. Here it is at all its glory:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5535152.0;wap

Anyway, cool project. Hopefully something like this can get put in the main site someday.
For sure Theymos can confirm the site must have a big percentage of its traffic from mobile these days.
You can't beat the convenience of typing from bed sometimes. 😅

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March 17, 2025, 03:37:30 PM
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I like what you did, I have to say it's clean, easy to read, also very nice and pleasant.
But sorry i didn't understand what you want to do, do you want to make a theme for the forum or a real app for android?
Sorry, but i didn't understand the purpose of the project

In any case, congratulations.

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