Mrbluntzy (OP)
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March 18, 2025, 03:52:18 PM |
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I saw some topics where some gamblers complaind on how they were locked out of their accounts by the casino and they lost their funds because they could not gain access to the casino again. For cases that was not the gamblers fault, the casino treated the problem and unlocked the account of that gambler, while for those gamblers that was at fault by violating the rules and regulations of the casino, their accounts was never opened by the casino and the gamblers lost their money for ever to that casino. Still on the case, if the punishment of accounts blocking is the price that ignoramus and stubborn gamblers has to pay, what does the casino do with such money after then? Do they convert the money for themselves or they have an authority they pay such money to?
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Oshosondy
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March 18, 2025, 04:00:26 PM |
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If not related to money laundering or money linked to criminal activities, the gambling site will be the one to earn the money. But if related to money laundering, the money will be given to the government to avoid issue from the regulators.
If the gambler cheat the gambling site, definitely the gambling site will make the money theirs.
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bittraffic
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March 18, 2025, 04:26:19 PM |
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I have not heard of a situation where the casino took the money of the user, they usually just send back the coins they deposited. But the trick these casinos do is that, if they lost the money, they are not giving them back.
I think what casinos should do is that check the user whether he has multi accounts and violations made righter after registering. They should not wait for the user to deposit.
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robelneo
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March 18, 2025, 04:51:40 PM |
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if the punishment of accounts blocking is the price that ignoramus and stubborn gamblers has to pay, what does the casino do with such money after then? Do they convert the money for themselves or they have an authority they pay such money to?
They can do whatever they want to do with it; they will likely add it to their reserves. I don't think they need to explain this to anyone; its not even in their terms what they are going to do with it, and it cannot be questioned unless they confiscate it without due process. To avoid this, gamblers just need to follow the terms, and they are good to go if they are not comfortable with the terms; they can just play elsewhere.
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Churchillvv
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March 18, 2025, 05:03:13 PM |
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If the issue that results to the locking of accounts or funds is internal more like disobeying the laid down rules of casinos then it's the casino that gets all the money for the house edge but when it's external like money laundering related issues it's reported to the appropriate authorities and I believe they also get a percentage from the funds and the rest to the government.
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March 18, 2025, 05:12:32 PM |
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what does the casino do with such money after then? Do they convert the money for themselves or they have an authority they pay such money to?
In my estimation what the casino does after confirmations that the users broke the terms and conditions a d can prove it beyond any reasonable doubt and then the case is closed, they put the money back into the business. Unless it is a case that involves the government then the money is handled to them but for cases like double accounts, that money goes back into the business.
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Zadicar
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March 18, 2025, 05:26:53 PM |
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I saw some topics where some gamblers complaind on how they were locked out of their accounts by the casino and they lost their funds because they could not gain access to the casino again. For cases that was not the gamblers fault, the casino treated the problem and unlocked the account of that gambler, while for those gamblers that was at fault by violating the rules and regulations of the casino, their accounts was never opened by the casino and the gamblers lost their money for ever to that casino. Still on the case, if the punishment of accounts blocking is the price that ignoramus and stubborn gamblers has to pay, what does the casino do with such money after then? Do they convert the money for themselves or they have an authority they pay such money to?
Thats why we do have so called terms and conditions on which it do clearly state up at the time that we do make out such account on a certain platform. It clearly stated that they do have the rights on blocking such account as long it do violates those terms and conditions then there's nothing we can do. In regarding about into the amounts involved into a certain account then we dont know if they do keep those money for themselves on which this is really that likely to happen or common sense since you have violated their rules. Therefore, it will really be that understandable on what they should gonna do with those funds and its really just that a very normal scenario or condition because this is how rules should work and if there's violations then we do know on whats next. As long those violations are that because of gamblers fault then there's nothing we can do about it or go against or making up some argumentation about it.
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stompix
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March 18, 2025, 05:42:36 PM |
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Still on the case, if the punishment of accounts blocking is the price that ignoramus and stubborn gamblers has to pay, what does the casino do with such money after then? Do they convert the money for themselves or they have an authority they pay such money to?
Are we talking about laws or what they should actually do? By the law, the money should be treated like this: - any deposits the player has made and are still intact should be returned to the player, no matter how many accounts and how much or if or not he has met his wager requirement - all money that has bet as long as the best are not fraudulent (fixed matches, bugs in the app) are still valid bets and the money are still owned by the client - money lost uses the same reasoning, the money is lost forever. By law the casino can't keep any of those funds, either give it to the player or to the authorities. What happens in real life, well, we all know! 
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348Judah
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March 18, 2025, 05:47:58 PM |
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I saw some topics where some gamblers complaind on how they were locked out of their accounts by the casino and they lost their funds because they could not gain access to the casino again. For cases that was not the gamblers fault, the casino treated the problem and unlocked the account of that gambler, while for those gamblers that was at fault by violating the rules and regulations of the casino, their accounts was never opened by the casino and the gamblers lost their money for ever to that casino. Still on the case, if the punishment of accounts blocking is the price that ignoramus and stubborn gamblers has to pay, what does the casino do with such money after then? Do they convert the money for themselves or they have an authority they pay such money to?
From the first scenario mentioned, are you telling us that they are doing that just to make extortion on gambler s who have huge amount on their casino wallet or what? Secondly, if a gambler violate the rules and they lock the account, they can later get to hold of the money on his account and it turns theirs. Where have you got all these information from, if it's true, do you think we are all going to continue gambling, are all the people having huge amount on their casino wallet scammed, or maybe you just have to make use of a reputable gambling platform.
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March 18, 2025, 05:48:45 PM |
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The terms and conditions of the guidelines must be followed if want everything to be safe and under control. If the account has no problems or has been verified by KYC, it should be possible to submit an appeal to the support contact and it can still be handled by the team. However, if the account has problems and is not verified, it could be your own fault. Conversely, if the account has been verified and the gambling owner cannot help, there is a problem being hidden, I am sure the team must have great responsibility because the manager is with them. If you can't help, what's the use of nonsense rules and requirements
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March 18, 2025, 05:53:06 PM |
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It is just another case of “If you don’t own the keys, you don’t own the coins.”
The moment you make a deposit on any third party app/service where you don’t have any control over the private keys of your funds, you don’t own it anymore.
Even if they decide to give your money back after you go through a KYC process, it is still not worth the trouble.
Never ever deposit more than you could afford to lose on any service.
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March 18, 2025, 06:09:44 PM |
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As long as you are not violating the rules of the casino, there is no way any casino will stop you from accessing your account. There are times when there will be some miscommunication when speaking with the support of a casino platform, they may think you are violating their rules and by such they may banned your account. Users need to learn to obey the rules before they blame casinos for their loss.
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March 18, 2025, 06:14:45 PM |
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I saw some topics where some gamblers complaind on how they were locked out of their accounts by the casino and they lost their funds because they could not gain access to the casino again. For cases that was not the gamblers fault, the casino treated the problem and unlocked the account of that gambler, while for those gamblers that was at fault by violating the rules and regulations of the casino, their accounts was never opened by the casino and the gamblers lost their money for ever to that casino. Still on the case, if the punishment of accounts blocking is the price that ignoramus and stubborn gamblers has to pay, what does the casino do with such money after then? Do they convert the money for themselves or they have an authority they pay such money to?
I believe there must be absolutely good reasons supporting the reasons for a casino to have the right to seize a customers funds after having closed their accounts due to negligence or stubbornness or ignorance. Some of the laws and regulations of a particular region or place may allow the casino to retain seized funds or pay it into the government wallet after the gambler has been judged guilty either for money laundering claims, fraud or other severe crimes against the rules and ethics of the gambling community. In a case where the gambler who is a victim of casinos judgement is not found guilty, such account could become once more active and funds recovered .
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March 18, 2025, 06:19:04 PM |
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The gamblers may be involved in something that is against the rules and terms of the casino, and that's why the casino holds their accounts. I don't know whether they can claim it or not, but the casino has the right to take over the account if they find any suspicious activities. In my last post, I mentioned that if there are multiple accounts in one casino, the casino may be able to track them and hold the accounts. If the money is related to any governmental activities, then they will have to hand it over, but if not, and the gamblers are just violating the rules, then the money will be added to the casino's accounts, and that's the rule.
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March 18, 2025, 06:23:07 PM |
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As long as you are not violating the rules of the casino, there is no way any casino will stop you from accessing your account. There are times when there will be some miscommunication when speaking with the support of a casino platform, they may think you are violating their rules and by such they may banned your account. Users need to learn to obey the rules before they blame casinos for their loss. Some casinos, if not all, can change their ToS at any time without informing anyone (even if they should by law). You can't follow up all the time on what they will change so the best way IMO is to have small amounts and never use things that are from day 1 forbidden. Plus if you are uncertain about something, talk directly with their support. Although there are cases that support don't bother or don't share the correct answers. In any case, until the client proves his "innocence", the casino can hold the money.
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Queentoshi
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March 18, 2025, 07:15:19 PM |
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what does the casino do with such money after then? Do they convert the money for themselves or they have an authority they pay such money to?
It is difficult to say exactly what is done with the money, but I think it is within their rights to claim the amount of money because the said Gambler has defaulted. It is also possible that the amount of money is just left dormant in the account, and it goes along with the account because regardless of the amount of money that is deposited in the gambling account, I don't think it is enough or something substantial that a casino will have a lot of interest in, except so.
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batang_bitcoin
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March 18, 2025, 07:18:49 PM |
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what does the casino do with such money after then? Do they convert the money for themselves or they have an authority they pay such money to?
We don't know. Maybe keep it for a couple of years if they are still operating and then that has to be added to the funds if it's not retrieved nor refunded. But as much as possible, before they close accounts they're refunding all of these money back to that users before they're totally shutdown and blocked. They have to authority on what they can do with that money because that is their platform and they have all the say in it.
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CryptSafe
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March 18, 2025, 07:31:03 PM |
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OP, account suspension are basically as a result of ignorance on the part of the gambler as you have clearly stated but this happens in different dimensions. If the account is suspected to be found wanting for money laundering, terrorism etc could be seized by the government but if as a result of the player's greed and cheating the casino would possibly take the money and would not likely return it but some casinos are considerate, they return deposit while some do not do so. In all, every casino has rules governing them so it would be in the interest of gamblers to obey them if they must continue to play with them otherwise they should just leave the casino and never get close to them.
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March 18, 2025, 07:36:20 PM |
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I saw some topics where some gamblers complaind on how they were locked out of their accounts by the casino and they lost their funds because they could not gain access to the casino again. For cases that was not the gamblers fault, the casino treated the problem and unlocked the account of that gambler, while for those gamblers that was at fault by violating the rules and regulations of the casino, their accounts was never opened by the casino and the gamblers lost their money for ever to that casino. Still on the case, if the punishment of accounts blocking is the price that ignoramus and stubborn gamblers has to pay, what does the casino do with such money after then? Do they convert the money for themselves or they have an authority they pay such money to?
We don't know what the casino does but I think that they are held there, I am one of such gamblers that locked out my account intentionally and indefinitely at the Stake casino because I saw that they were not correct regarding the RTP they were advertising. I had a bit of money in that account but I absolutely do not give the slightest shit about that money, the casino can do whatever they want with them if it were for me though most likely if I write an email to them to reinstate my account I am pretty sure it will be reinstated with the funds left there. I didn't violate any rules but choose by myself to ban myself there for eternity because I don't believe them in what they do advertise in their games, coming back to your question most likely they don't move the money anywhere although an account may be banned. In fact in many services when an account is closed they leave you withdraw mode only, so you can withdraw any money you may have there and have no rights to do other things.
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Oluwa-btc
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March 18, 2025, 07:47:40 PM |
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For cases that was not the gamblers fault, the casino treated the problem and unlocked the account of that gambler, while for those gamblers that was at fault by violating the rules and regulations of the casino, their accounts was never opened by the casino and the gamblers lost their money for ever to that casino. Still on the case, if the punishment of accounts blocking is the price that ignoramus and stubborn gamblers has to pay, what does the casino do with such money after then? Do they convert the money for themselves or they have an authority they pay such money to?
Seriously this is entirely bad I must say blocking of accounts and depriving the gamblers of their funds, I think this is one medium in which this Casinos owners enrich themselves and moreso it's quite a high chance of money laundering and i don't think they give out such money to any authority or whatsoever, I haven't heard of such yes one can be subjected to such mistakes and have their accounts blocked and compromised but it's not the duty of the casino to have the gamblers funds to themselves.
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