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We offer the most comprehensive GTO (Game Theory Optimal) Poker RTA solution on the market, providing professional players with instant access to mathematically perfect strategies across all game formats. - Industry-Leading Database (1500TB+ and increasing) - Multi-Game Support (combine MTT's, Spin & Go and Cash games on a single display) - Ultra-Fast OCR Processing (Read any Texas Holdem spot within 200ms) - Undetectable Implementation - 4K resolution support for up to 16 tables simultaneously - Advanced Table Detection Solved games: NL Cash Holdem, Spin and Go, MTT (Tournaments), Cash ante Supported Sites: GGPoker, Club GG, iPoker, PokerStars, ACR, Ignition, Winamax, and CoinPoker, as well as all the skins of each network for these sites, with varying levels of support for cash games, spins, and MTTs. You can find a detailed breakdown on the webpage. Contact us for a Risk-free trial Website: https://rta.pokerEmail: info@rta.poker
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Pre-solved GTO solutions paired with our innovative All-in-One Multi-Game Solution - which supports even 4k Resolutions Solved games NLHE cash, Spins, MTTS Supported Sites: GG Poker, Club GG, iPoker, PokerStars, ACR, Ignition, Winamax, and CoinPoker, as well as all the skins of each network for these sites, with varying levels of support for cash games, spins, and MTTs. You can find a detailed breakdown on the webpage. Contact Website: https://rta.pokerEmail: info@rta.pokerFrom your supported sites list, only 3 of them accept cryptos: CoinPoker, ACR and Ignition. The other ones only work with fiat deposits, and that's important to mention. The price for the service is high, we are talking about 2250€/3 months does this price come with any kind of warranty? Because if we pay that and the bot make us lose our balance that would be really frustrating. And the real question is, if you have a system to make a lot of money, why to sell it if you can use your engine to print money?
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March 20, 2025, 03:33:35 AM |
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Pre-solved GTO solutions paired with our innovative All-in-One Multi-Game Solution - which supports even 4k Resolutions Solved games NLHE cash, Spins, MTTS Supported Sites: GG Poker, Club GG, iPoker, PokerStars, ACR, Ignition, Winamax, and CoinPoker, as well as all the skins of each network for these sites, with varying levels of support for cash games, spins, and MTTs. You can find a detailed breakdown on the webpage. Contact Website: https://rta.pokerEmail: info@rta.pokerFrom your supported sites list, only 3 of them accept cryptos: CoinPoker, ACR and Ignition. The other ones only work with fiat deposits, and that's important to mention. The price for the service is high, we are talking about 2250€/3 months does this price come with any kind of warranty? Because if we pay that and the bot make us lose our balance that would be really frustrating. And the real question is, if you have a system to make a lot of money, why to sell it if you can use your engine to print money? These sites supposedly are always catching these bot accounts and confiscating the money on the account as well as closing the account and sending refunds to the players affected. Well, they say refund but seems like they only give you a % of what you lost back. The sites are not really catching the cheaters as a fast enough click to make a difference and someone can just make a new account and restart the process. My guess is this person has already been caught on a few accounts and has decided to try and fleece a few users while he can, just speculating. $2250 is pretty pricy, but if you have the bankroll to play big stakes it is possible to recover the fee fairly fast. Can you recover before the site catches you cheating? IMO, why risk it?
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March 20, 2025, 07:43:27 AM |
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Pre-solved GTO solutions paired with our innovative All-in-One Multi-Game Solution - which supports even 4k Resolutions Solved games NLHE cash, Spins, MTTS Supported Sites: GG Poker, Club GG, iPoker, PokerStars, ACR, Ignition, Winamax, and CoinPoker, as well as all the skins of each network for these sites, with varying levels of support for cash games, spins, and MTTs. You can find a detailed breakdown on the webpage. Contact Website: https://rta.pokerEmail: info@rta.poker How shamelessly you are destroying the game. RTA is banned in every poker platform online/offline for a reason as it gives an unfair advantage to some users over others. It is the same as using bots for online chess matches.@seoincorporation and @yahoo62278 are you guys really interested in his services or just trolling him  I have given appropriate trust feedback to OP. Those who love the game should also do so.
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Pre-solved GTO solutions paired with our innovative All-in-One Multi-Game Solution - which supports even 4k Resolutions Solved games NLHE cash, Spins, MTTS Supported Sites: GG Poker, Club GG, iPoker, PokerStars, ACR, Ignition, Winamax, and CoinPoker, as well as all the skins of each network for these sites, with varying levels of support for cash games, spins, and MTTs. You can find a detailed breakdown on the webpage. Contact Website: https://rta.pokerEmail: info@rta.poker How shamelessly you are destroying the game. RTA is banned in every poker platform online/offline for a reason as it gives an unfair advantage to some users over others. It is the same as using bots for online chess matches.@seoincorporation and @yahoo62278 are you guys really interested in his services or just trolling him  Read my post. I am not interested but also not trolling. Just want anyone dumb enough to look into this to have all the info possible. Likely at some point they will get their account closed and money confiscated. Very likely the guy could be looking to make a few bucks and disappear, and very likely anyone thinking about doing this is at risk of losing money.
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You can shove your offer up your ass. Besides the fact that what you're offering is prohibited, at least in the best poker rooms, things like this are exactly why online poker is heading toward a future of bots playing against bots (or players using RTA against other players using RTA) while the rooms just rake in the profits. I don’t think you’ll have much success here. Aside from the skepticism in the responses, nobody is going to pay that kind of money, assuming what you’re offering even works.
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April 27, 2025, 02:17:36 PM Last edit: April 27, 2025, 03:46:49 PM by hilariousandco |
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Pre-solved GTO solutions paired with our innovative All-in-One Multi-Game Solution - which supports even 4k Resolutions Solved games NLHE cash, Spins, MTTS Supported Sites: GG Poker, Club GG, iPoker, PokerStars, ACR, Ignition, Winamax, and CoinPoker, as well as all the skins of each network for these sites, with varying levels of support for cash games, spins, and MTTs. You can find a detailed breakdown on the webpage. Contact Website: https://rta.pokerEmail: info@rta.pokerFrom your supported sites list, only 3 of them accept cryptos: CoinPoker, ACR and Ignition. The other ones only work with fiat deposits, and that's important to mention. The price for the service is high, we are talking about 2250€/3 months does this price come with any kind of warranty? Because if we pay that and the bot make us lose our balance that would be really frustrating. And the real question is, if you have a system to make a lot of money, why to sell it if you can use your engine to print money? Your information, that only the 3 poker rooms you mentioned support cryptos is not correct. GGPoker, ClubGG accept also Cryptos, thats 5 out of 8 rooms  No, there's no guarantee you'll be a winner in the short term. Everyone knows poker has very high variance - even if you were the best player in the world, you couldn't guarantee a positive win rate over a short period. We've mentioned this clearly in our FAQ section. We actually turn away new players with little or no experience because they're simply not going to be huge winners right away. You should think of our tool as something that helps you improve, not something that makes you a magician at the poker table. It's about getting better, not instant success. About why we're selling it - well, you could ask this question to any company that sells software with algorithms. The answer is always pretty much the same: you can make more money selling it than just using it yourself. Another reason which might sound stupid is that if we didn't sell our software, we'd just be letting our competition grow. People who need this kind of tool will find something - if they can't find us, they'll just end up buying different software from someone else. We kept this tool private for a very long time and now we've decided to try something different by promoting it to others. Besides, there's still plenty of places where I can play without bumping into our clients. But honestly, I'm a mathematician at heart and prefer studying the theory rather than playing poker myself  Pre-solved GTO solutions paired with our innovative All-in-One Multi-Game Solution - which supports even 4k Resolutions Solved games NLHE cash, Spins, MTTS Supported Sites: GG Poker, Club GG, iPoker, PokerStars, ACR, Ignition, Winamax, and CoinPoker, as well as all the skins of each network for these sites, with varying levels of support for cash games, spins, and MTTs. You can find a detailed breakdown on the webpage. Contact Website: https://rta.pokerEmail: info@rta.pokerFrom your supported sites list, only 3 of them accept cryptos: CoinPoker, ACR and Ignition. The other ones only work with fiat deposits, and that's important to mention. The price for the service is high, we are talking about 2250€/3 months does this price come with any kind of warranty? Because if we pay that and the bot make us lose our balance that would be really frustrating. And the real question is, if you have a system to make a lot of money, why to sell it if you can use your engine to print money? These sites supposedly are always catching these bot accounts and confiscating the money on the account as well as closing the account and sending refunds to the players affected. Well, they say refund but seems like they only give you a % of what you lost back. The sites are not really catching the cheaters as a fast enough click to make a difference and someone can just make a new account and restart the process. My guess is this person has already been caught on a few accounts and has decided to try and fleece a few users while he can, just speculating. $2250 is pretty pricy, but if you have the bankroll to play big stakes it is possible to recover the fee fairly fast. Can you recover before the site catches you cheating? IMO, why risk it? Don't mix us up with those simple poker bots or detectable, unsafe setups. We're not offering any of those easy-to-spot solutions. We actually get a lot of requests to make something simpler, but we always turn them down. Why? Because those quick and easy setups get caught pretty fast. We're not looking for short-term clients who'll be gone in a few weeks when their setup gets detected. We prefer building relationships with long-term clients, and that strategy works - most of our customers stay with us for much longer than just 3 months. The setup we help you build isn't detectable at all. The only way any of our clients could get caught is if someone analyzed their playing strategies and noticed they're too close to GTO. We even got some measures in place to handle that concern as well. You can shove your offer up your ass. Besides the fact that what you're offering is prohibited, at least in the best poker rooms, things like this are exactly why online poker is heading toward a future of bots playing against bots (or players using RTA against other players using RTA) while the rooms just rake in the profits. I don’t think you’ll have much success here. Aside from the skepticism in the responses, nobody is going to pay that kind of money, assuming what you’re offering even works.
Arent you promoting casino games? That's peak hypocrisy - condemning our poker tech while pushing games with built-in house edges. Our product isn't killing poker - it's just part of the evolution. Players have always sought edges through books, coaching and software. Besides that AI is catching up everywhere. Ethics in poker are subjective and everyone is free to form their own opinion about what's ethical and what's not. Just because poker sites prohibit these tools doesn't automatically make them unethical. After all, there aren't actual laws forbidding the use of such tools - as Natural8 (a GGPoker skin) states: "Real-time assistance may not be considered illegal in a court of law." The distinction between site rules and actual legality is important to recognize. As for your price concerns - our long-term clients clearly see the value, or they wouldn't stay with us. But thanks for your colorful feedback.
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April 27, 2025, 02:52:59 PM Last edit: April 27, 2025, 03:13:18 PM by Hispo |
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You can shove your offer up your ass. Besides the fact that what you're offering is prohibited, at least in the best poker rooms, things like this are exactly why online poker is heading toward a future of bots playing against bots (or players using RTA against other players using RTA) while the rooms just rake in the profits. I don’t think you’ll have much success here. Aside from the skepticism in the responses, nobody is going to pay that kind of money, assuming what you’re offering even works.
Arent you promoting casino games? That's peak hypocrisy - condemning our poker tech while pushing games with built-in house edges. Our product isn't killing poker - it's just part of the evolution. Players have always sought edges through books, coaching and software. Besides that AI is catching up everywhere. Ethics in poker are subjective and everyone is free to form their own opinion about what's ethical and what's not. Just because poker sites prohibit these tools doesn't automatically make them unethical. After all, there aren't actual laws forbidding the use of such tools - as Natural8 (a GGPoker skin) states: "Real-time assistance may not be considered illegal in a court of law." The distinction between site rules and actual legality is important to recognize. As for your price concerns - our long-term clients clearly see the value, or they wouldn't stay with us. But thanks for your colorful feedback. The house edge of a casino and the advertising of a casino does not have to be hypocritical at all, since all people (or all least people with a minimum of experience on gambling) are aware there is a edge the house uses to guarantee long term profits for their bookies and casinos. Gambling is a business and any business is supposed to be profitable through time, otherwise it would not be a business but rather a charity or a non-profit organization. On the other hand, the tool you are trying to sell us here are against the terms of conditions of most casinos which offer poker as one of their casino games and there is a good reason for it, it kill the experience and the chances for those who just want to have a clear experience and use their human acquired experience to try to have fun and earn a buck from their session. The fact you come here offering this service to us instead of using it yourself for your own economical benefit, it is an indicative you have probably been caught several times and banned from several casinos and now you need to capitalize off your tool by selling it to us. 
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You can shove your offer up your ass. Besides the fact that what you're offering is prohibited, at least in the best poker rooms, things like this are exactly why online poker is heading toward a future of bots playing against bots (or players using RTA against other players using RTA) while the rooms just rake in the profits. I don’t think you’ll have much success here. Aside from the skepticism in the responses, nobody is going to pay that kind of money, assuming what you’re offering even works.
Arent you promoting casino games? That's peak hypocrisy - condemning our poker tech while pushing games with built-in house edges. Our product isn't killing poker - it's just part of the evolution. Players have always sought edges through books, coaching and software. Besides that AI is catching up everywhere. Ethics in poker are subjective and everyone is free to form their own opinion about what's ethical and what's not. Just because poker sites prohibit these tools doesn't automatically make them unethical. After all, there aren't actual laws forbidding the use of such tools - as Natural8 (a GGPoker skin) states: "Real-time assistance may not be considered illegal in a court of law." The distinction between site rules and actual legality is important to recognize. As for your price concerns - our long-term clients clearly see the value, or they wouldn't stay with us. But thanks for your colorful feedback. The house edge of a casino and the advertising of a casino does not have to be hypocritical at all, since all people (or all least people with a minimum of experience on gambling) are aware there is a edge the house uses to guarantee long term profits for their bookies and casinos. Gambling is a business and any business is supposed to be profitable through time, otherwise it would not be a business but rather a charity or a non-profit organization. On the other hand, the tool you are trying to sell us here are against the terms of conditions of most casinos which offer poker as one of their casino games and there is a good reason for it, it kill the experience and the chances for those who just want to have a clear experience and use their human adquirida experience to try to have fun and earn a buck from their session. The fact you come here offering this service to us instead of using it yourself for your own economical benefit, it is an indicative you have probably need caught several times and banned from several casinos and now you need to capitalize off your tool by selling it to us.  There's a fundamental difference between transparency and ethics. Yes, casinos are transparent about having an edge - but that doesn't make promoting games where players are mathematically guaranteed to lose more ethical than offering tools for games of skill where players compete against each other. Poker isn't just "another casino game" - it's a competitive mind sport where players have always sought edges through study and technology. From books to solvers to coaching, the evolution of poker has always included tools that improve play. Ours is just the next step in that evolution. As for why we're selling rather than just using it ourselves - as we've explained before, this is basic business economics. Many software companies could potentially profit more from their algorithms directly, but choose to sell their solutions instead. We kept this private for years before deciding to offer it more widely. The assumption that we must have been "caught" is completely off-base. Our setup is specifically designed to be undetectable and our long-term clients are proof of that. If we were getting clients banned, we wouldn't have a business. Everyone draws their ethical lines differently. You're welcome to yours and we respect that.
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Pre-solved GTO solutions paired with our innovative All-in-One Multi-Game Solution - which supports even 4k Resolutions Solved games NLHE cash, Spins, MTTS Supported Sites: GG Poker, Club GG, iPoker, PokerStars, ACR, Ignition, Winamax, and CoinPoker, as well as all the skins of each network for these sites, with varying levels of support for cash games, spins, and MTTs. You can find a detailed breakdown on the webpage. Contact Website: https://rta.pokerEmail: info@rta.pokerFrom your supported sites list, only 3 of them accept cryptos: CoinPoker, ACR and Ignition. The other ones only work with fiat deposits, and that's important to mention. The price for the service is high, we are talking about 2250€/3 months does this price come with any kind of warranty? Because if we pay that and the bot make us lose our balance that would be really frustrating. And the real question is, if you have a system to make a lot of money, why to sell it if you can use your engine to print money? These sites supposedly are always catching these bot accounts and confiscating the money on the account as well as closing the account and sending refunds to the players affected. Well, they say refund but seems like they only give you a % of what you lost back. The sites are not really catching the cheaters as a fast enough click to make a difference and someone can just make a new account and restart the process. My guess is this person has already been caught on a few accounts and has decided to try and fleece a few users while he can, just speculating. $2250 is pretty pricy, but if you have the bankroll to play big stakes it is possible to recover the fee fairly fast. Can you recover before the site catches you cheating? IMO, why risk it? Don't mix us up with those simple poker bots or detectable, unsafe setups. We're not offering any of those easy-to-spot solutions. We actually get a lot of requests to make something simpler, but we always turn them down. Why? Because those quick and easy setups get caught pretty fast. We're not looking for short-term clients who'll be gone in a few weeks when their setup gets detected. We prefer building relationships with long-term clients, and that strategy works - most of our customers stay with us for much longer than just 3 months. The setup we help you build isn't detectable at all. The only way any of our clients could get caught is if someone analyzed their playing strategies and noticed they're too close to GTO. We even got some measures in place to handle that concern as well. If your bot is really that good and undetectable, then why you are trying to sell it? If you have a bot that already makes money, then the way to earn money is by using it and not by selling it, and if you want to make more money or make it faster, then just run multiple bots at the same time, easy as that. But the fact that you are trying to sell it will always make us doubt, because no one will sale his making money machine because there is no logic behind a move like that.
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April 27, 2025, 03:35:54 PM |
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Pre-solved GTO solutions paired with our innovative All-in-One Multi-Game Solution - which supports even 4k Resolutions Solved games NLHE cash, Spins, MTTS Supported Sites: GG Poker, Club GG, iPoker, PokerStars, ACR, Ignition, Winamax, and CoinPoker, as well as all the skins of each network for these sites, with varying levels of support for cash games, spins, and MTTs. You can find a detailed breakdown on the webpage. Contact Website: https://rta.pokerEmail: info@rta.pokerFrom your supported sites list, only 3 of them accept cryptos: CoinPoker, ACR and Ignition. The other ones only work with fiat deposits, and that's important to mention. The price for the service is high, we are talking about 2250€/3 months does this price come with any kind of warranty? Because if we pay that and the bot make us lose our balance that would be really frustrating. And the real question is, if you have a system to make a lot of money, why to sell it if you can use your engine to print money? These sites supposedly are always catching these bot accounts and confiscating the money on the account as well as closing the account and sending refunds to the players affected. Well, they say refund but seems like they only give you a % of what you lost back. The sites are not really catching the cheaters as a fast enough click to make a difference and someone can just make a new account and restart the process. My guess is this person has already been caught on a few accounts and has decided to try and fleece a few users while he can, just speculating. $2250 is pretty pricy, but if you have the bankroll to play big stakes it is possible to recover the fee fairly fast. Can you recover before the site catches you cheating? IMO, why risk it? Don't mix us up with those simple poker bots or detectable, unsafe setups. We're not offering any of those easy-to-spot solutions. We actually get a lot of requests to make something simpler, but we always turn them down. Why? Because those quick and easy setups get caught pretty fast. We're not looking for short-term clients who'll be gone in a few weeks when their setup gets detected. We prefer building relationships with long-term clients, and that strategy works - most of our customers stay with us for much longer than just 3 months. The setup we help you build isn't detectable at all. The only way any of our clients could get caught is if someone analyzed their playing strategies and noticed they're too close to GTO. We even got some measures in place to handle that concern as well. If your bot is really that good and undetectable, then why you are trying to sell it? If you have a bot that already makes money, then the way to earn money is by using it and not by selling it, and if you want to make more money or make it faster, then just run multiple bots at the same time, easy as that. But the fact that you are trying to sell it will always make us doubt, because no one will sale his making money machine because there is no logic behind a move like that. We've never claimed to offer a bot anywhere. RTA is not an automated bot. As our website clearly states: "You still need to play and make the decisions yourself." Let me explain the difference - we aren't running bots that play automatically and print money. Our system simply duplicates your main poker screen to a second screen, uses OCR to read the game information and then displays GTO assistance directly on your tables. If we were offering a bot that played for you, I'd understand your concerns. But our situation is completely different - you're still the one playing and making all the decisions, we just provide information to help you make better ones.
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"You still need to play and make the decisions yourself."
Let me explain the difference - we aren't running bots that play automatically and print money. Our system simply duplicates your main poker screen to a second screen, uses OCR to read the game information and then displays GTO assistance directly on your tables.
LOL. You really have no shame. It is like playing chess against a human with the help of a chess engine displaying the best move for you. Yes, you have to move your pieces on your own  . You have the audacity to argue from a moral perspective! GTFO. Sell this on some other shitty platform full of scammers, you will fit in there, not here.
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"You still need to play and make the decisions yourself."
Let me explain the difference - we aren't running bots that play automatically and print money. Our system simply duplicates your main poker screen to a second screen, uses OCR to read the game information and then displays GTO assistance directly on your tables.
LOL. You really have no shame. It is like playing chess against a human with the help of a chess engine displaying the best move for you. Yes, you have to move your pieces on your own  . You have the audacity to argue from a moral perspective! GTFO. Sell this on some other shitty platform full of scammers, you will fit in there, not here. I'm not making moral arguments here - I'm simply clarifying a technical distinction between bots and assistance tools that you seemed to misunderstand. Your previous poster asked why we sell rather than use it ourselves and I explained the business logic. Many software companies could use their own algorithms exclusively but choose to sell them instead. You're deliberately twisting my words and responding with hostility rather than engaging with what I'm actually saying. We're transparent about what our service does. If it doesn't interest you, that's completely fine. People have different views on technology in poker and disagreeing with a product doesn't justify disrespectful behavior. Regarding ethics, everyone can decide for themselves what they consider ethical.
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I'm not making moral arguments here
Really, you are a pathetic liar as well. The core of your selling pitch is the grey area between morality and law, in this case it is not even in greay area it is straight away pitch black, have a look again liar, Ethics in poker are subjective and everyone is free to form their own opinion about what's ethical and what's not. Just because poker sites prohibit these tools doesn't automatically make them unethical. After all, there aren't actual laws forbidding the use of such tools - as Natural8 (a GGPoker skin) states: "Real-time assistance may not be considered illegal in a court of law." The distinction between site rules and actual legality is important to recognize.
BTW, since you mentioned one line from Natural8's terms and conditions twisting the grey area in your favor, have a close look at their terms regarding RTA, You're deliberately twisting my words and responding with hostility rather than engaging with what I'm actually saying.
I have been taking you head-on from the very first lines of my posts here. You are selling something that is against the very spirit of fair play. You can not even name one poker platform that allows RTA. Oh, wait. You have the counter-argument to this,"not getting caught," lol. What else do I need to call you a scammer? I'm simply clarifying a technical distinction between bots and assistance tools that you seemed to misunderstand.
lol, you think you can hide behind this, are we children here lol so that you can divert the core issue with these scammy tricks? You are sounding like, ''Oh I am not a thief, I am just explaining the difference between DNA and RNA lol, grow up dude, do something better with your life instead of scamming. We're transparent about what our service does. OK, say that you are a criminal cum scammer, who is destroying the game with cheating software.
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I'm not making moral arguments here
Really, you are a pathetic liar as well. The core of your selling pitch is the grey area between morality and law, in this case it is not even in greay area it is straight away pitch black, have a look again liar, Ethics in poker are subjective and everyone is free to form their own opinion about what's ethical and what's not. Just because poker sites prohibit these tools doesn't automatically make them unethical. After all, there aren't actual laws forbidding the use of such tools - as Natural8 (a GGPoker skin) states: "Real-time assistance may not be considered illegal in a court of law." The distinction between site rules and actual legality is important to recognize.
BTW, since you mentioned one line from Natural8's terms and conditions twisting the grey area in your favor, have a close look at their terms regarding RTA, You're deliberately twisting my words and responding with hostility rather than engaging with what I'm actually saying.
I have been taking you head-on from the very first lines of my posts here. You are selling something that is against the very spirit of fair play. You can not even name one poker platform that allows RTA. Oh, wait. You have the counter-argument to this,"not getting caught," lol. What else do I need to call you a scammer? I'm simply clarifying a technical distinction between bots and assistance tools that you seemed to misunderstand.
lol, you think you can hide behind this, are we children here lol so that you can divert the core issue with these scammy tricks? You are sounding like, ''Oh I am not a thief, I am just explaining the difference between DNA and RNA lol, grow up dude, do something better with your life instead of scamming. We're transparent about what our service does. OK, say that you are a criminal cum scammer, who is destroying the game with cheating software. Looking at your trust profile, you seem to call a lot of people in this forum a "scammer" Is that the only way you know how to increase your post count - by blindly accusing everyone? Anyone reading this can look up your profile history and see this pattern for themselves. Calling someone like that implies deception and I've been completely upfront about what our tool does and how it works. Find me a single person to whom we haven't delivered the service we promised, then you can justifiably use that term. You don't seem to understand the actual definition of that word.  I've been completely transparent about what our tool does. Yet again you are twisting my words. Yes, I quoted one line from Natural8's terms to make a specific point about legality versus site rules - not to suggest they allow RTA. There's an important distinction between something being against site rules and something being illegal. Natural8 themselves acknowledge this distinction in their terms when they say "Real-time assistance may not be considered illegal in a court of law" You can disagree with RTA's place in poker - that's a valid position many players hold. But personal attacks and misrepresenting my statements don't advance that discussion productively.
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I'm not making moral arguments here
Really, you are a pathetic liar as well. The core of your selling pitch is the grey area between morality and law, in this case it is not even in greay area it is straight away pitch black, have a look again liar, Ethics in poker are subjective and everyone is free to form their own opinion about what's ethical and what's not. Just because poker sites prohibit these tools doesn't automatically make them unethical. After all, there aren't actual laws forbidding the use of such tools - as Natural8 (a GGPoker skin) states: "Real-time assistance may not be considered illegal in a court of law." The distinction between site rules and actual legality is important to recognize.
BTW, since you mentioned one line from Natural8's terms and conditions twisting the grey area in your favor, have a close look at their terms regarding RTA, You're deliberately twisting my words and responding with hostility rather than engaging with what I'm actually saying.
I have been taking you head-on from the very first lines of my posts here. You are selling something that is against the very spirit of fair play. You can not even name one poker platform that allows RTA. Oh, wait. You have the counter-argument to this,"not getting caught," lol. What else do I need to call you a scammer? I'm simply clarifying a technical distinction between bots and assistance tools that you seemed to misunderstand.
lol, you think you can hide behind this, are we children here lol so that you can divert the core issue with these scammy tricks? You are sounding like, ''Oh I am not a thief, I am just explaining the difference between DNA and RNA lol, grow up dude, do something better with your life instead of scamming. We're transparent about what our service does. OK, say that you are a criminal cum scammer, who is destroying the game with cheating software. Looking at your trust profile, you seem to call a lot of people in this forum a "scammer" Is that the only way you know how to increase your post count - by blindly accusing everyone? Anyone reading this can look up your profile history and see this pattern for themselves. Calling someone like that implies deception and I've been completely upfront about what our tool does and how it works. Find me a single person to whom we haven't delivered the service we promised, then you can justifiably use that term. You don't seem to understand the actual definition of that word.  I've been completely transparent about what our tool does. Yet again you are twisting my words. Yes, I quoted one line from Natural8's terms to make a specific point about legality versus site rules - not to suggest they allow RTA. There's an important distinction between something being against site rules and something being illegal. Natural8 themselves acknowledge this distinction in their terms when they say "Real-time assistance may not be considered illegal in a court of law" You can disagree with RTA's place in poker - that's a valid position many players hold. But personal attacks and misrepresenting my statements don't advance that discussion productively. Just because you're upfront about a product, doesn't make the claim that you're selling a tool most platforms consider cheating illegal. Using RTA is prohibited on most rooms. There was also a big thing in last year's world series where a players rail was accused of using RTA. Yes you are open about your software/tool/product, but in the poker world it really is considered unethical. Using charts and stuff to improve your hand ranges and 3 bet ranges is ok, but Using it during a game and getting probabilities of what to do is not.
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[Looking at your trust profile, you seem to call a lot of people in this forum a "scammer" Is that the only way you know how to increase your post count - by blindly accusing everyone? Anyone reading this can look up your profile history and see this pattern for themselves.
 Have a close look again. If you can find even one single negative trust feedback of mine which is wrong, I will just shut my mouth forever and apologize in public OR you are going to look like a verified liar again. I dare you to substantiate your claim. Find me a single person to whom we haven't delivered the service we promised, then you can justifiably use that term. You don't seem to understand the actual definition of that word. Smiley
Perhaps you should read again my trust feedback to you, you will realize how careful I was tagging you. | memehunter | | 2025-03-20 | | Reference | | Selling cheating software. If he was selling normal solvers which you can look afterward to improve your game, I would have no problem, BUT he is selling Real Time Assistance which should be banned. It is legally and morally wrong. (Delete) |
Technically there is high risk involved in trading with you, even if you deliver what you promise beside the fact that it is completely banned by every single poker platform on this planet. I think I should have added the word ' scammer' in my trust feedback. Just because you're upfront about a product, doesn't make the claim that you're selling a tool most platforms consider cheating illegal.
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[Looking at your trust profile, you seem to call a lot of people in this forum a "scammer" Is that the only way you know how to increase your post count - by blindly accusing everyone? Anyone reading this can look up your profile history and see this pattern for themselves.
 Have a close look again. If you can find even one single negative trust feedback of mine which is wrong, I will just shut my mouth forever and apologize in public OR you are going to look like a verified liar again. I dare you to substantiate your claim. Find me a single person to whom we haven't delivered the service we promised, then you can justifiably use that term. You don't seem to understand the actual definition of that word. Smiley
Perhaps you should read again my trust feedback to you, you will realize how careful I was tagging you. | memehunter | | 2025-03-20 | | Reference | | Selling cheating software. If he was selling normal solvers which you can look afterward to improve your game, I would have no problem, BUT he is selling Real Time Assistance which should be banned. It is legally and morally wrong. (Delete) |
Technically there is high risk involved in trading with you, even if you deliver what you promise beside the fact that it is completely banned by every single poker platform on this planet. I think I should have added the word ' scammer' in my trust feedback. Just because you're upfront about a product, doesn't make the claim that you're selling a tool most platforms consider cheating illegal.
Exactly You wrote that using RTA is "legally wrong." You're speaking from a position of moral authority without understanding the basic legal concepts involved. Can you cite a single law from any country that explicitly makes using our software during poker play illegal? Not against site terms or conditions - an actual law that would make it a criminal offense. You can't, because there isn't one. There's a fundamental difference between breaking a website's terms of service (which can get you banned from that site) and breaking actual laws (which can get you prosecuted). Natural8's own terms explicitly acknowledge this distinction when they state: "Real-time assistance may not be considered illegal in a court of law." You're throwing around terms like "legally wrong" without understanding their meaning. If you're going to make accusations about legality, you should understand the basic difference between site policies and actual laws. Otherwise, you're just demonstrating your confusion about these fundamentally different concepts. And about the term "scammer" here again you show your confusion. You write "Technically there is high risk involved in trading with you" - since when does a high risk give you the right to define someone with that term? You're now taking one step back from your accusations but making yourself a mockery by again contradicting yourself. First you claim I'm a "scammer" because what I offer is "legally wrong," then you admit it's just "high risk" - two completely different concepts that expose your fundamental misunderstanding of these terms.
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Can you cite a single law from any country that explicitly makes using our software during poker play illegal? Not against site terms or conditions - an actual law that would make it a criminal offense. You can't, because there isn't one. There's a fundamental difference between breaking a website's terms of service (which can get you banned from that site) and breaking actual laws (which can get you prosecuted). Natural8's own terms explicitly acknowledge this distinction when they state: "Real-time assistance may not be considered illegal in a court of law."
You're throwing around terms like "legally wrong" without understanding their meaning.
If you're going to make accusations about legality, you should understand the basic difference between site policies and actual laws. Otherwise, you're just demonstrating your confusion about these fundamentally different concepts.
I can only laugh at your understanding of the law, (sometimes I do fantasize about a lady officer  ) Here is the definition from Oxford reference, So by breaking the terms of a poker platform you are breaking the law for which you will be penalized, i.e money confiscated, account ban, etc. Do you imply that just because your users might not end up in jail, it is worth it? 
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Can you cite a single law from any country that explicitly makes using our software during poker play illegal? Not against site terms or conditions - an actual law that would make it a criminal offense. You can't, because there isn't one. There's a fundamental difference between breaking a website's terms of service (which can get you banned from that site) and breaking actual laws (which can get you prosecuted). Natural8's own terms explicitly acknowledge this distinction when they state: "Real-time assistance may not be considered illegal in a court of law."
You're throwing around terms like "legally wrong" without understanding their meaning.
If you're going to make accusations about legality, you should understand the basic difference between site policies and actual laws. Otherwise, you're just demonstrating your confusion about these fundamentally different concepts.
I can only laugh at your understanding of the law, (sometimes I do fantasize about a lady officer  ) Here is the definition from Oxford reference, So by breaking the terms of a poker platform you are breaking the law for which you will be penalized, i.e money confiscated, account ban, etc. Do you imply that just because your users might not end up in jail, it is worth it?  Your mockery and condescension only highlight your confusion about these basic distinctions. Your definition of "law" proves my point rather than refutes it. Yes, law is "the system of rules that a particular country or community recognizes as regulating the actions of its members." Exactly - and that's why Terms of Service violations and actual criminal offenses are fundamentally different. What you're describing is a contractual violation, not a criminal offense. No law enforcement agency will arrest someone for using RTA software. No prosecutor will file charges. No judge will sentence anyone to jail time for it. That's also exactly why the incidents in chess where they caught people using unfair advantages didn't result in jail time. Look at recent high-profile cases - GM Kirill Shevchenko received a three-year ban for hiding a phone in a tournament bathroom, Patrycja Waszczuk got a two-year ban for using outside help. FIDE's official Anti-Cheating Guidelines only suspensions and title revocations, not criminal penalties. These penalties are all organizational sanctions, not legal punishments, because like poker sites, chess organizations can only enforce their own rules through contractual penalties - bans, fines, and title revocations. They can't imprison anyone because using chess engines, just like using poker RTA, isn't breaking any actual laws.
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