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March 22, 2025, 06:53:02 AM
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It's an understandable fact that there are lives of persons with which has been changed for the better through some lucky huge win from gambling but the ratio to those winners is very low to those whose lives has been frustrated by same gambling because they failed to gambling within the ambit of responsible gambling. Isn't it ridiculous to think of picking a game of luck as a source of income? I feel only lazy people does that with gambling, because any hardworking man will always want to have something else doing as a job while he spare some little time to catch the gambling fun.

I think you get my point, it's a 50/50 situation that's why I'm trying to let people understand that they have to thread it with caution, yes gambling have changed lives, some people have been lucky to benefit from it but it doesn't mean that one should go fully into gambling as a means of survival with hope that they'll get lucky too, funny enough luck might not shine on the person like it did for the other person and he might even lose more than he's trying to get and end up being addicted.

 Gambling is a business for iowners of different platforms you don't expect them to be on the losing side, no business owner would want to suffer lose, what I'm trying to say is that if everyone keeps winning often it would be bad for the bookies that's why it's a game of luck no matter how good one's strategy is, so the house would always be on the winning side, you don't go into such with the mentality of earning a living through it.

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March 22, 2025, 10:26:17 AM
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The guy na perfect example of a gambling addict, imagine someone seeing gambling as an occupation to me it is this this set of people that makes people feels that gambler are irresponsible people . I totally disagree with everything he said there is no one that can tell me in this country that his occupation is gambling or that gambling is his source of livelihood.it is only those that don't really know or understand that they can't gain financial freedom through gambling that will think like the guy in that video.

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March 22, 2025, 03:45:15 PM
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It's an understandable fact that there are lives of persons with which has been changed for the better through some lucky huge win from gambling but the ratio to those winners is very low to those whose lives has been frustrated by same gambling because they failed to gambling within the ambit of responsible gambling. Isn't it ridiculous to think of picking a game of luck as a source of income? I feel only lazy people does that with gambling, because any hardworking man will always want to have something else doing as a job while he spare some little time to catch the gambling fun.
I think you get my point, it's a 50/50 situation that's why I'm trying to let people understand that they have to thread it with caution, yes gambling have changed lives, some people have been lucky to benefit from it but it doesn't mean that one should go fully into gambling as a means of survival with hope that they'll get lucky too, funny enough luck might not shine on the person like it did for the other person and he might even lose more than he's trying to get and end up being addicted.
I read in a comment where a user was talking about gambling experts and how these experts live on gambling profits, as in, they take it as a full time job and are giving their energy all to it as income source. And I was very disappointed that there are individuals who believes that there are gambling experts and this people make a living from just gambling. For how lucky can this expert be every time, everyday.

Gambling is a business for iowners of different platforms you don't expect them to be on the losing side, no business owner would want to suffer lose, what I'm trying to say is that if everyone keeps winning often it would be bad for the bookies that's why it's a game of luck no matter how good one's strategy is, so the house would always be on the winning side, you don't go into such with the mentality of earning a living through it.
For you to make profit constantly from gambling you've to be either the gambling company owner or an agent with a shop where people come to gamble. The entire algorithm wasn't designed to favour the gambler or else the gambling platform as a business will collapse from recurrent large wins. A better understanding of this can save many gamblers from unnecessary struggles to cripple the casino or betting company with a huge win.
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March 23, 2025, 04:07:13 PM
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I read in a comment where a user was talking about gambling experts and how these experts live on gambling profits, as in, they take it as a full time job and are giving their energy all to it as income source. And I was very disappointed that there are individuals who believes that there are gambling experts and this people make a living from just gambling. For how lucky can this expert be every time, everyday.

Some of this punters go to the extent of editing their bets to attract ignorant people to pay money and get gambling tips funny enough some people are stupid enough to believe in "sure bets" , I ain't say that all punters are cheats and lie about their winning but some do so to scam people and make money through what they claim to be sure betting tips. People should understand that gambling was designed for the business owners to be on the winning side, that's why you can't beat the house and winning is based on luck even with your good strategy.

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For you to make profit constantly from gambling you've to be either the gambling company owner or an agent with a shop where people come to gamble. The entire algorithm wasn't designed to favour the gambler or else the gambling platform as a business will collapse from recurrent large wins. A better understanding of this can save many gamblers from unnecessary struggles to cripple the casino or betting company with a huge win.

The fact about gambling is that, no matter how good a gambler is, even though they claim to be an expert they can't win more than the business owners one might be very lucky to hit a very huge figure, for instance I've their are some online punter who win big money but you'll be suprised at what they've lost before they hit that amount and they can't be always lucky to hit such figures everyday it's not possible.

 

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March 29, 2025, 10:05:06 PM
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If he calls it a business,then it can be a business.I am aware of people who don't go to any where,all they do is sit at home and predict games,and they still kind of survive through it.
But I cannot say gambling or sports betting is very cool, because the addiction is something I don't want to talk about.Once you are addicted to it,you are doomed.Thats why I would prefer if they could ban it,I would even be happy.
I know some persons will antagonise my opinion,it's just an opinion please.
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March 29, 2025, 10:20:50 PM
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If he calls it a business,then it can be a business.I am aware of people who don't go to any where,all they do is sit at home and predict games,and they still kind of survive through it.
But I cannot say gambling or sports betting is very cool, because the addiction is something I don't want to talk about.Once you are addicted to it,you are doomed.Thats why I would prefer if they could ban it,I would even be happy.
I know some persons will antagonise my opinion,it's just an opinion please.

I get that banning things seems like an easy fix, but really it just pushes the issue underground where its even harder to deal with.  People should be free to make their own choices, even if we dont always agree with them.  And if some folks do struggle with addiction, what they need is help and support, not punishment.  Blanket bans end up causing more harm than good by taking away personal freedoms from everyone.  I know the intention is good here, but it feels pretty controlling to want to forbid something just because you personally dont care for it. 

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March 30, 2025, 11:23:50 PM
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I don't want to take this post to the gambling board, I prefer we debate about it here among our selvs. https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMBjHT5tw/

So he said he is very happy of doing the business, directly speaking, he is calling sports betting (gambling) a business.

Few questions I would love us to debat about here are:

Do you think this guy was put up with this recording (like being scripted)?

Secondly, how many well do you agree with what he said?

Thirdly, do you think there are people that are actually surviving off gambling earnings? Have you seen any?
There are people who takes gambling as a business and they make money from it. It’s like there job sincere there is no job out there in this country. There are people who have so many gambling applications on there phone. And they literally stake on them with a lot of money. I don’t think I’ve come across someone who have won gambling that it changed there life. Like building a house from gambling. Paying bills and taking care of loved once through gambling. No matter how an expert someone is. They can never get rich from it. Gambling addiction is bad, but banning gambling isn’t so good: because there are people who will end up jobless. Because it’s also a job opportunity for people who works in this betting or gambling shop. But the addiction of gambling is a bad idea.

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March 31, 2025, 07:57:28 AM
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The guy na perfect example of a gambling addict, imagine someone seeing gambling as an occupation to me it is this this set of people that makes people feels that gambler are irresponsible people . I totally disagree with everything he said there is no one that can tell me in this country that his occupation is gambling or that gambling is his source of livelihood.it is only those that don't really know or understand that they can't gain financial freedom through gambling that will think like the guy in that video.

You are absolutely correct gambling can never be an occupation for me, for you and for some others but to this guy, may be it is for him because he just said it. I may not know the reason for his comment but I believe there is something that drives him to say it because someone who is not making gain often in gambling can never utter something like this but maybe he is making millions and billions that is why he said that. However, I'm not surprised because I have seen people who's work is just gambling.

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April 12, 2025, 04:00:32 AM
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Sport betting is a business right now it can make people to be self-employed people that do open small betting shops that act as agents of the betting company. With money won or loss they get a tip or a percentage that they are being given at the end of the month by the betting company and also some of the little tips they get from gamblers that makes win so all of these is a source except for The gambler that comes to gamble in the betshop

Na true but person has to be careful when it come to gambling, make person no from there becomes an addict, because if you Dey where them dey gamble, the thing go sweet you and if you are not careful, u go join them and before you go know Wetin dey happen, you dey gamble, maybe you win on your first try and you go won try again, na so you go just carry start gambling, na why they said make person gamble responsibly, because if you dey loss, no body go return your money for you.
So instead use your money for better things wey go dey beneficial to you.

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April 12, 2025, 10:45:03 PM
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So he said he is very happy of doing the business, directly speaking, he is calling sports betting (gambling) a business.

Few questions I would love us to debat about here are:

Do you think this guy was put up with this recording (like being scripted)?

Secondly, how many well do you agree with what he said?

Thirdly, do you think there are people that are actually surviving off gambling earnings? Have you seen any?
The people wey put up the recording fit script am, but make I no lie, na just d fact na him the man Dey talk. Most youths wey Dey now, na gambling dem Dey use guide, even as dem Dey always lose. most people now no get money, and na small small money wey dem Dey get from gambling, na him dem Dey use guide, and if the government decide to stop gambling, na wahala dem wan cause be that now, make I burst your head, if the government ban bets in Nigeria, crime rate go definitely increase.

The government is no longer helping the youths now, everybody just Dey street, and the funniest part be say stomach no wan hear say job no Dey, food must enter am. Some people wey Dey gamble no go run am if to say dem get work, most gamblers Dey always lose money, but as alternative no Dey, na to Dey run am, even if na small small money go Dey enter. The mistake wey government go do now na to ban gambling site.

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April 14, 2025, 12:48:09 PM
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Okay to start with I think it's scripted but that aside I know some of my friends who survives on betting like they stake high on smaller odds to take home there profit sometimes they lose but at least there winning rate is very high, to be sincere gamble cannot work for everyone if you don't have the mind to stake high I would advise you to stop gambling or stake the one you can bear if you lose, but I think betting in general has rendered a whole lot of Nigerians frustrated and depressed just like crypto, due to Nigeria's economy most of us now look for a easy route out of poverty
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Okay to start with I think it's scripted but that aside I know some of my friends who survives on betting like they stake high on smaller odds to take home there profit sometimes they lose but at least there winning rate is very high, to be sincere gamble cannot work for everyone if you don't have the mind to stake high I would advise you to stop gambling or stake the one you can bear if you lose, but I think betting in general has rendered a whole lot of Nigerians frustrated and depressed just like crypto, due to Nigeria's economy most of us now look for a easy route out of poverty
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Gambling will never bring you peace of mind. What is the guarantee that you will not lose more than what you gain today from gambling tomorrow? Everyone gambles with the hope of profit but when they lose, their mind and mentality are disturbed. But yes, if anyone thinks that they can profit by gambling, then my advice to them is to gamble on something that you will not regret if you lose.

There are many people who have changed their position by gambling. They even think that gambling has opened the key to their destiny. But when they lose a huge amount of money, they will regret it that day and say why they did not consider hard work as the key to their destiny. However, the matter of gambling completely depends on you because you must have the knowledge to judge good and bad.
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April 28, 2025, 05:49:21 PM
 #33

Okay to start with I think it's scripted but that aside I know some of my friends who survives on betting like they stake high on smaller odds to take home there profit sometimes they lose but at least there winning rate is very high, to be sincere gamble cannot work for everyone if you don't have the mind to stake high I would advise you to stop gambling or stake the one you can bear if you lose, but I think betting in general has rendered a whole lot of Nigerians frustrated and depressed just like crypto, due to Nigeria's economy most of us now look for a easy route out of poverty
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E don tay way gambling don dey Nigeria. E no go easy for government to stop am because no be small money them dey tax these casinos and many people (tv studios, radio houses, artistes, influencers e.t.c.) dey chop from these casinos. If government decide to ban gambling casinos make them start from lotto and baba Ijebu because na only lose those old men dey lose for there.

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May 13, 2025, 05:28:07 AM
 #34

Okay to start with I think it's scripted but that aside I know some of my friends who survives on betting like they stake high on smaller odds to take home there profit sometimes they lose but at least there winning rate is very high, to be sincere gamble cannot work for everyone if you don't have the mind to stake high I would advise you to stop gambling or stake the one you can bear if you lose, but I think betting in general has rendered a whole lot of Nigerians frustrated and depressed just like crypto, due to Nigeria's economy most of us now look for a easy route out of poverty
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E don tay way gambling don dey Nigeria. E no go easy for government to stop am because no be small money them dey tax these casinos and many people (tv studios, radio houses, artistes, influencers e.t.c.) dey chop from these casinos. If government decide to ban gambling casinos make them start from lotto and baba Ijebu because na only lose those old men dey lose for there.
Gambling has gone too far to stop. The origin of gambling is as old as man and no true effort has been made to end it before the advent of technology which strengthened the act. The government is also a beneficiary and only cares about the taxes. Instead of expecting government to end gambling, I think it's easier to fight under age gambling which is in the increase now. Children between the ages of 13 to 17 years old have taken over gambling and this poses a threat to the future.

Bad governance in Africa is also a big factor, joblessness is evil and comes with various vices. The best that can be done is to advocate for job creation and also enforce ending underage gambling.

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