Betpanda.io Bounty Hunter Poker League, Big Prizes!, Huge Bounties!!, Discussion

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Thanks for starting the next thread for the next round @memehunter and I would like to encourage everyone to join us. $50 in total on my head so far.

The last time, I overplayed my 10s against you because of sheer greed  , this time I will be more careful and don't you dare to bluff me like this ever again. I have decided that I will call every time just to avoid humiliation. I mean, I have to have some respect for myself
#calleverytimewhenmv1986raises
This 2nd league tournament will be about stopping you only, I do not even care about the prize. be ready 

I can't wait to fight you at the same table. Just kidding

Maybe we all should collude just to stop him  . It is getting very emabarassing for all of us that he is winning every single event 

To all those lurkers:
Registration for the 2nd League Tournament is live: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5537094

Collusion won't help if he hits like he hit against me. 
Maybe we should change the poker site, I have a feeling mv has been tempering with the code at pokernow so he can find the cards he needs to win big pots. Really not cool mv, I though highly of you but now I have to reconsider. 

[memehunter]

Collusion won't help if he hits like he hit against me.  

hahaha yepp, You ran reallly bad on that flop  . I mean, you cant blame him for trapping you on set  . You were doing good with decent stack lol before lightening striked   . Here is the screen shot from final table, not rubbing salt on your wounds lol

 

Maybe we should change the poker site, I have a feeling mv has been tempering with the code at pokernow so he can find the cards he needs to win big pots. Really not cool mv, I though highly of you but now I have to reconsider.  Grin

  Maybe he is outside the poker matrix, hahaha and no matter which platform you go he will still be unbeatable   He still has a 50$ bounty in this 2nd League Tournament lol.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Collusion won't help if he hits like he hit against me.  

hahaha yepp, You ran reallly bad on that flop  . I mean, you cant blame him for trapping you on set  . You were doing good with decent stack lol before lightening striked   . Here is the screen shot from final table, not rubbing salt on your wounds lol

 

Maybe we should change the poker site, I have a feeling mv has been tempering with the code at pokernow so he can find the cards he needs to win big pots. Really not cool mv, I though highly of you but now I have to reconsider.  Grin

  Maybe he is outside the poker matrix, hahaha and no matter which platform you go he will still be unbeatable   He still has a 50$ bounty in this 2nd League Tournament lol.

He didn't trap at all, he bet the flop quite big hoping someone got a piece of it. Any ace or good flush draw would at least call. And well, I hit big so I HAVE to reraise to deny equity in case he has a better ace or a combo draw (flush draw and straight draw). When he insta called I already knew he had 44 cause it was the only hand to call that quick with. Flush draws would think a bit, and ace with whatever kicker would at least take some seconds (to most likely fold) as well. An insta call is almost always a set and when I have AJ it's almost impossible for him to have AA or JJ. Leaves him only with 44. I played it the right way I think, you don't want to just call and give some person the flush for cheap.
Same as with the AK vs JJ against you, it's basically an automatic allin pre when I have like 70k in chips and you had around 25k. Nothing we can do, you can only hope to hold and me to hit. Rest is up to rng.

[mv1986]

Thanks for starting the next thread for the next round @memehunter and I would like to encourage everyone to join us. $50 in total on my head so far.

The last time, I overplayed my 10s against you because of sheer greed  , this time I will be more careful and don't you dare to bluff me like this ever again. I have decided that I will call every time just to avoid humiliation. I mean, I have to have some respect for myself
#calleverytimewhenmv1986raises
This 2nd league tournament will be about stopping you only, I do not even care about the prize. be ready 

I can't wait to fight you at the same table. Just kidding

Maybe we all should collude just to stop him  . It is getting very emabarassing for all of us that he is winning every single event 

To all those lurkers:
Registration for the 2nd League Tournament is live: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5537094

Collusion won't help if he hits like he hit against me. 
Maybe we should change the poker site, I have a feeling mv has been tempering with the code at pokernow so he can find the cards he needs to win big pots. Really not cool mv, I though highly of you but now I have to reconsider. 

I confess I share my gigantic winnings with Pokernow and that is why they shuffle me the right cards at the right time

But I'll give you some info on the last tournament: I probably bluffed around 20-25% more of all my hands than I would usually do. I wanted to be engaged more to make my hands less predictable because usually I am quite a tight player.

@AHOYBRAUSE but one thing is for sure and you will agree: to win a tournament, you need a least amount of luck. The 444 against two pair AJ are exactly the hands that decide over winners and losers and neither me or you could have folded that hand. Actually, you could have improved and still beat me. It was me to sweat till the river was dealt.


I played major bluffs a couple of times like the one against memehunter with 78. I guarantee that if I had gotten caught two or three times bluffing, I would have never won the tournament.

You either need crazy flops where everyone hits, but you hit the best, or you  need some luck like a river or hitting a 3-outer.

[memehunter]

he bet the flop quite big hoping someone got a piece of it.

That was the start of the trap, and you moved right into it .

I played it the right way I think, you don't want to just call and give some person the flush for cheap.

True, I would have done the same.

Same as with the AK vs JJ against you, it's basically an automatic allin pre when I have like 70k in chips and you had around 25k. Nothing we can do, you can only hope to hold and me to hit. Rest is up to rng.

Yepp, maybe this time I will have AK  . AK is never fold becasue even if your flipping against qq and opponen hits set you still have straight's outs. This was explained by Fedor Holz.

I confess I share my gigantic winnings with Pokernow and that is why they shuffle me the right cards at the right time

And you forgot the host .

I probably bluffed around 20-25% more of all my hands than I would usually do. I wanted to be engaged more to make my hands less predictable because usually I am quite a tight player.

I see. But now you will reverse that thinking we all are fishes anyway , or maybe you will not chage it and beat us via reverse psychology

I played major bluffs a couple of times like the one against memehunter with 78.

Don't even talk about that bluff. I am deleting the video   . I will have my revenge this time for sure, be ready to catch some 5x overbet bluffs  

I'm betting against you not making it to the grand finale $15 and you $10

Just letting you know that I am one step closer to winning this easy bet  

[AHOYBRAUSE]

he bet the flop quite big hoping someone got a piece of it.

That was the start of the trap, and you moved right into it .

Guess you and I have a different understanding of a trap. He was value betting to get money in while he is ahead, which on this board could change very quick. The were a flush draw and 2 straight draws. Trapping would only be checking, but not betting for value.

Anyway, let's see what happens next time, I will try to participate again, especially because it's earlier this time. I might be a bit drunk though since during hanami season (cherry blossom festival) there are many picnics that involve drinking this weekend, and I also have basketball from 7-9pm. Gonna be a tough day, hahaha.

[memehunter]

Since regestration for 2nd league tournament is live, let's do some side-betting for this tournament. I will take even unfavorable odds if you can come up with some interesting side-betting proposals ($5-$10 range). If you need some hints, the following are the areas you can consider for proposing side bets;

1.) Who will last longer (of course, in the tournament )?
2.) Will anyone make it to the Grand Finale?
3.) The outright winner for this tournament or the whole event.
4.) OR anything else you can think of related to the event.

All side-bets (where I am involved) will be paid directly to your personal wallet immediately after the tournament by me.  I am looking for no more than 5 bets so incase you want to grab a favourable side-betting opportunity please post it. 

Don't forget to request participation for 2nd league tournament  as there will be no late registration.

[mv1986]

Since regestration for 2nd league tournament is live, let's do some side-betting for this tournament. I will take even unfavorable odds if you can come up with some interesting side-betting proposals ($5-$10 range). If you need some hints, the following are the areas you can consider for proposing side bets;

1.) Who will last longer (of course, in the tournament )?
2.) Will anyone make it to the Grand Finale?
3.) The outright winner for this tournament or the whole event.
4.) OR anything else you can think of related to the event.

All side-bets (where I am involved) will be paid directly to your personal wallet immediately after the tournament by me.  I am looking for no more than 5 bets so incase you want to grab a favourable side-betting opportunity please post it. 

Don't forget to request participation for 2nd league tournament  as there will be no late registration.

1.) Who will last longer while playing the tournament (video recording as proof required)!

I am in for $10 between you and me. If anyone else wants to accept it, I am ok with five people accepting this bet. I could be bold and say I am in against everyone, but I have this feeling that my streak has to come to an end

I anticipate the bad beat against AHOYBRAUSE when he beats my aces with him flopping triple kings. Now if this comes true, I wonder if anyone would then make me a suspect who's tempering with the Pokernow software, lol

If anyone wants to accept the bet for 1.), I will accept the first five who post here.

[Ambatman]

Just letting you know that I am one step closer to winning this easy bet  

where's lady luck when you need are attention.
Who are you playing against next?

1.) Who will last longer while playing the tournament (video recording as proof required)!

I am in for $10 between you and me. If anyone else wants to accept it, I am ok with five people accepting this bet.

I don't understand
Are you placing a bet that you would last longer than hunter?
Or both of you might meet in the finale
(that's not going to help my hope of winning my bet against hunter if it's coming from you ).

Will observe if there's any other favourable bet  in my POV
I can push $5 since already have $15 on red.

[memehunter]

I am in for $10 between you and me. If anyone else wants to accept it, I am ok with five people accepting this bet.

Oh man, I really do not want to bet against you, considering your track record. I would have accepted this immediately against anyone else, but against you, it would be a fool's bet .
But again, I am not too wise, so I accept your betting proposal for lasting longer; we have a bet.
But I only have one condition: it must be only about lasting long in this tournament only, anywhere else will not count because it would be embarrassing to provide video proof

(video recording as proof required)! Cheesy

@Ambatman, it is not a HU event 
You might take @mv1986's offer as a hedging bet against me.

[mv1986]

I am in for $10 between you and me. If anyone else wants to accept it, I am ok with five people accepting this bet.

Oh man, I really do not want to bet against you, considering your track record. I would have accepted this immediately against anyone else, but against you, it would be a fool's bet .
But again, I am not too wise, so I accept your betting proposal for lasting longer; we have a bet.
But I only have one condition: it must be only about lasting long in this tournament only, anywhere else will not count because it would be embarrassing to provide video proof

(video recording as proof required)! Cheesy

@Ambatman, it is not a HU event 
You might take @mv1986's offer as a hedging bet against me.

@Ambatman, memehunter and I made a joke here as there are different meanings for "lasting longer" I referred to that joke, but my offer for that bet still stands.


@memehunter, winning the tournament has now turned into a running gag, but this is poker and it will come to an end. This is not to motivate you to accept the bet, but everyone who has played a lot, be it on Pokerstars or somewhere else, knows that there are no serial winners in the small scheme of things. There are players who win more than others, but there is a reason that it is considered sensational when someone reaches the final table at the WSOP twice in their lifetime.

With smaller fields of participants it is of course easier to do. Have you played Sit&Go's? There were these challenges that if you win like 10 in a row or something, I am not sure. I never got that done and those Sit&Go's only had 3 players each time. Rest assured, my head will be rolling soon

[memehunter]

The 2nd League Tournament will be starting within 40 minutes. If you want to participate, register now as there will be no late registration. Today we will be having $10 bounty on each head and guaranteed prizes for our top finishers. We already have almost two full tables, LFG.

[mv1986]

The 2nd League Tournament will be starting within 40 minutes. If you want to participate, register now as there will be no late registration. Today we will be having $10 bounty on each head and guaranteed prizes for our top finishers. We already have almost two full tables, LFG.

Ready and waiting for you guys!

17 players so far. Going to be fun for sure. In the Bounty Hunter round 1 there were more players so far, would be good to have everyone around who has been part of it in round 1.

[Ambatman]

@Ambatman, it is not a HU event 
You might take @mv1986's offer as a hedging bet against me.

Lol I will pass. Lady luck has broken up with me
My losses from sportbets alone? Oh Lord 
I won't be surprised if I start supporting mv1986 to win he won't cross this round.

@Ambatman, memehunter and I made a joke here as there are different meanings for "lasting longer" I referred to that joke, but my offer for that bet still stands.

Oh do you have a book or recommendations that can cover "poker for dummies "

Have you played Sit&Go's?

I would consider myself a little above Noob but lower than a Normie in poker
Just find it cool then in movies and picked up on one of two
Didn't push more to learn since I had nobody to play or learn from until now.


Hopefully is as easy as Chess.

[memehunter]

Below are the top 3 fininshers of 2nd League Tournament,



Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's mv1986 again.
Just to put things in perspective, he has won the last 5 events consecutively. I do not know how he is doing that, but this is an amazing accomplishment in the poker world. I tried to knock him down but he always came on top. Royse also put up a great fight in the end and secured a well-deserved 2nd place.  AHOYBRAUSE played perfectly with a great level of patience, but Royse's luck got him on the river.
All in all we had great fun together. You can watch the full FT video on YouTube: https://youtu.be/lLmc5lxZQg0?si=EYGiYJ4wnOn_Q_WN
Now, the list of top 6 contenders has also changed . mv186 is still topping the table, but we have a new surprise entry at number 2 (Royse). While xlays, slapper and me kept our places in the top 6 contenders for GF, Little Mouse got off the list.
Please also check the prize distribution and let me know if anything is wrong. I will correct it ASAP.

Good luck for the 3rd League Tournament, which I will be posting about soon.
 

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Below are the top 3 fininshers of 2nd League Tournament,

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's mv1986 again.
Just to put things in perspective, he has won the last 5 events consecutively. I do not know how he is doing that, but this is an amazing accomplishment in the poker world. I tried to knock him down but he always came on top. Royse also put up a great fight in the end and secured a well-deserved 2nd place.  AHOYBRAUSE played perfectly with a great level of patience, but Royse's luck got him on the river.
All in all we had great fun together. You can watch the full FT video on YouTube: https://youtu.be/lLmc5lxZQg0?si=EYGiYJ4wnOn_Q_WN
Now, the list of top 6 contenders has also changed . mv186 is still topping the table, but we have a new surprise entry at number 2 (Royse). While xlays, slapper and me kept our places in the top 6 contenders for GF, Little Mouse got off the list.
Please also check the prize distribution and let me know if anything is wrong. I will correct it ASAP.

Good luck for the 3rd League Tournament, which I will be posting about soon.
 

Thanks again for organizing and especially because of moving to time up for 2 hours, it made a big difference for me. Yeah I really needed a lot of patience, folding for 1 hour straight (actually really didn't get one hand to raise or even call with preflop) with higher getting blinds is just so annoying. Also while being only 4-5 players sitting right behind mv (with chips) makes it even harder to see a flop cause he can raise basically any hand.

The suckout at the hand was just as predicted. It's often like that for me. Folding forever, getting it in good against a questionable call and then   . That's poker.

[mv1986]

Below are the top 3 fininshers of 2nd League Tournament,

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's mv1986 again.
Just to put things in perspective, he has won the last 5 events consecutively. I do not know how he is doing that, but this is an amazing accomplishment in the poker world. I tried to knock him down but he always came on top. Royse also put up a great fight in the end and secured a well-deserved 2nd place.  AHOYBRAUSE played perfectly with a great level of patience, but Royse's luck got him on the river.
All in all we had great fun together. You can watch the full FT video on YouTube: https://youtu.be/lLmc5lxZQg0?si=EYGiYJ4wnOn_Q_WN
Now, the list of top 6 contenders has also changed . mv186 is still topping the table, but we have a new surprise entry at number 2 (Royse). While xlays, slapper and me kept our places in the top 6 contenders for GF, Little Mouse got off the list.
Please also check the prize distribution and let me know if anything is wrong. I will correct it ASAP.

Good luck for the 3rd League Tournament, which I will be posting about soon.
 

Thanks again for organizing and especially because of moving to time up for 2 hours, it made a big difference for me. Yeah I really needed a lot of patience, folding for 1 hour straight (actually really didn't get one hand to raise or even call with preflop) with higher getting blinds is just so annoying. Also while being only 4-5 players sitting right behind mv (with chips) makes it even harder to see a flop cause he can raise basically any hand.

The suckout at the hand was just as predicted. It's often like that for me. Folding forever, getting it in good against a questionable call and then   . That's poker.

Thanks again for organizing and especially because of moving to time up for 2 hours, it made a big difference for me.

@AHOYBRAUSE if this is what works best for you and most others are good with it, let's keep it like that.

I don't have perfect insight into your hand ranges and therefore it is hard to tell whether I would be as tight as you in many situations. I can say that with a stack of 25BB +, I am making moves at times. Sometimes 20BB +. It depends on table position of course. At some point I definitely play stack size and of course time, I want as many hands as possible with blinds that hurt you, but don't hurt me.

But at the end of the day your all-in was the right move, patience would have paid off if statistics held true, and you would have done the right thing. The setups are so crucial often times and the tournament will come when I run into your kings with my queens or AK vs. AQ. Especially yesterday when I played my stack and in one of the first hands when I sat right before you, if it is AQ in my hand and AK in yours, you double up unless I hit the three outs.


@memehunter thanks again, good to see you are handling everything smoothly and on time. It would be nice to see the number of participants go up, but I was a bit confused about two of the newcomers. I think AHOYBRAUSE knows what I mean. The moves they made were not even amateurish, the moves were weird. I can't remember, but these all-ins made no sense, not even for someone who doesn't know the game because why sign up in the first place with all the hassle and go with a new account straight to the games and rounds section on Bitcointalk? If someone asked him or her in some other poker round, then ok, I don't know about that. But otherwise I find it weird. Anyway, fine for us because we get the knockouts maybe, but it would be tough to swallow if someone like that has a lottery jackpot day and takes some of us off the table, but then so be it

Keep in mind guys, 60 dollars on my head next round! Very, very fun with you!

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Thanks again for organizing and especially because of moving to time up for 2 hours, it made a big difference for me.

@AHOYBRAUSE if this is what works best for you and most others are good with it, let's keep it like that.

I don't have perfect insight into your hand ranges and therefore it is hard to tell whether I would be as tight as you in many situations. I can say that with a stack of 25BB +, I am making moves at times. Sometimes 20BB +. It depends on table position of course. At some point I definitely play stack size and of course time, I want as many hands as possible with blinds that hurt you, but don't hurt me.

But at the end of the day your all-in was the right move, patience would have paid off if statistics held true, and you would have done the right thing. The setups are so crucial often times and the tournament will come when I run into your kings with my queens or AK vs. AQ. Especially yesterday when I played my stack and in one of the first hands when I sat right before you, if it is AQ in my hand and AK in yours, you double up unless I hit the three outs.

I am aware of ranges my friend. But offsuit 5 gappers like 9 4 and so on are just unplayable. My BEST hand for for a whole hour was J8 off, think about that. That's the definition of card dead. Every bb I had 4 2 , 6 10, 3 5 , J 4, and so on, actually hilarious. But I am used to that on pokernow, nothing new for me. If I even had suited connectors or anything, but no, absolutely nothing.
Just what I told you on the table, folding forever and being kicked out with the better hand, I can predict the future. 

Anyway, congrats for your win. At some point you were just cruising after some donations and then playing the big stack as it's supposed to be. Guess we had a lot of fun shaking our head about some stuff we saw on the table. 

[mv1986]

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I am aware of ranges my friend. But offsuit 5 gappers like 9 4 and so on are just unplayable. My BEST hand for for a whole hour was J8 off, think about that. That's the definition of card dead. Every bb I had 4 2 , 6 10, 3 5 , J 4, and so on, actually hilarious. But I am used to that on pokernow, nothing new for me. If I even had suited connectors or anything, but no, absolutely nothing.
Just what I told you on the table, folding forever and being kicked out with the better hand, I can predict the future. 

Anyway, congrats for your win. At some point you were just cruising after some donations and then playing the big stack as it's supposed to be. Guess we had a lot of fun shaking our head about some stuff we saw on the table. 

Yes I know you are aware of ranges, but you could then play timing+table reputation at a slightly higher rate. What is the chance that your next hand is shit or your opponent's last hand is strong? I think you could in such a case up your rate of pushing it with any two by about 10% maybe. I get you and so far it wasn't the bad hands that got you out of the tournaments, it was the suck outs with superior hands.

You call it donations, but that doesn't describe it properly. I had very bad hands, was willing to put up some pressure with my low stack, was patient here and there, got nobody calling with AQ I think two times when others got those easy chips with weaker hands. Then the aces were timing, but honestly getting from 6k chips to 12k chips almost hurst with aces and memehunter called because of my bounty, which makes sense. I could have still got sucked out like you. Then it was step by step, but the turning point was when I took a pee literally to think about my nines.

I explained memehunter once again my whole thought process: first all in is irrelevant in that situation with I think 12.5k chips. It is not about knocking him out and I clearly have him beat with 99, 55% at the very least. But probably literally any two like K8, most likely a weak ace. I put him on the weak ace. Now you get why that is important. When the big stack puts me all in, what is the worst that can happen to me? Overpair, sure. That can happen. 10s would be ugly, but game history didn't suggest that. If I assume that first all-in has two overcards, chance is lower for running into an overpair from second all-in, chance is high that they steal overcard from each other, average likely scenario is KQ vs AK vs 99, gives me almost a coin flip against 8 outs.

Now I took a pee literally to go through it, and I put first all-in on a weak ace as that was about the range that made some sense although many moves before made no sense, that is why I ruled out monsters. A5 vs AK vs 99 gives me quite a bit over 50%. In that moment I know that there are some other players who possibly would have played an ace, so I calculated two aces against me for sure, + 3 of any other overcard.

In that spot with 55% and the chance to not only double up, but to take full control over the table, I made the decision to call. If I fold and get into a flow of bad cards all the time (as I had before except for my aces that paid off little compared to your kings), I concluded it was the right decision to call. That is why I took the time bank. I needed to think about it and it could have gone wrong. But hey, this is what poker is all about. You never know for sure. It is about educated guesses and observations and calculations.

In many of the big tournaments you see someone getting ahead because of a call like that or because of suck outs or insane set ups. In this case it wasn't setup, which I like. It was a decision made only by myself. If I lose, I am to blame. If I win, I am to blame because it is neither a must call nor a must fold.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

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Yeah I didn't mean the medium pair hands with donations of course, more like the Q7 ( head hunting call ) and other smaller donations you got from some ruthless people. The turn flush vs trips also was a medium donation I would say, definitely a bit overplayed by Len considering he had a 60bb stack at that point. Since I am an Omaha player I am always very careful with trips when there is a flush or straight. Putting in 54bb in a 20bb pot is crazy even with trips. Mostly you only get called by a flush or boat (at least by people that know how to play) .
That's brought you to 200bb which was the beginning of the end for the rest of the table, hahaha.
But hey, I don't complain about you, at least you can play, that's fun. And with all the knockouts you basically paved the way for me to make the money. So well, thanks for that! 

Will try to participate next weekend again, let's see how that goes.