Betpanda.io Bounty Hunter Poker League, Big Prizes!, Huge Bounties!!, Discussion

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Glad I made it to the final, even though I got busted out questionable again. haha
Fun fact, I actually only won 1 or 2 bounties while playing every tournament. I think I got 1st, 3rd, 4th(or 5th) and 6th place and still barely made the final showdown list.
Just shows you how bad I am running in those tournaments, 2 bounties in 4 tournaments with around 20 people each is really crazy.

Anyway, let's see what the final will bring. Guess all the "crazy" players will tone it down a bit for this one. 

[memehunter]

Just in case somebody thinks https://odysee.com/@memehunter:4/l4 requires account registration or anything, no it doesn't. You can freely watch the video there without any hassles.

Yes, it seems like like a great platform built on decentralized video sharing. Youtube's new policy made my channel suffer in one night (30+ videos), so I shifted to new one, our community our rules  

Too bad memehunter didn't make it...

#hostneverwins  

Dang I had to raise it to 'normal' which kinda makes me looks like an idiot that doesnt goes along the norm of the game lol but overall it was good

Hahaha true, we have seen some unusual play (totally crazy), I can feel you buddy.

Of the several rounds of this tournament, only this 4th round I felt really bad. I was too emotional and had to be eliminated early.
BTW, thanks to Betpanda and @memehunter, even though I never got the prize, but I got an amazing experience with you guys.

You are a strong player but variance is taking a toll out of you for sure. No need to be emotional, it is just a game intended for fun. Thanks for your proactive participation.

Glad I made it to the final, even though I got busted out questionable again. haha

Congrats  , You deserved it.

Anyway, let's see what the final will bring. Guess all the "crazy" players will tone it down a bit for this one.  Tongue

lol, with players like ivan and xlays, (ok sometimes mv1986 too ) get ready for some action always.  

I'm betting against you not making it to the grand finale $15 and you $10

Accepted
Last time, you won both bets, so this time, lady luck should be on my side.

Congrats you have won the bet

[Mr. Magkaisa]

1st Round = i got nothing, knocked out so early.
2nd Round = same scenario, wishing to KO someone but first to went out.
3rd Round = Got lucky, had a double KO, a total of 5 including the top chip holder. (entered the top 6)
4th Round = not a good night to have, luckily 3rd round is enough to secure a spot for the Finale.

Thanks guys GL to all.

[xLays]

I thought I could still join Round 4, but I couldn’t anymore because I got too tired from the long trip going to my province. I even set an alarm, but I was so sleepy I didn’t hear it go off. Anyway, congrats to the winners for the 4th and got to grand finale . See you in the grand finale. When’s the schedule for the finale so I can prepare? Lol.

Edit: Is is correct that the grand finale will be on Sunday 3pm UTC? Can see the discussion thread for the grand finale.

[memehunter]

So here we are, after the month long intense poker battles in 4 league tournaments, we have our 6 champions. Now, they will fight among themselves in order to decide the ultimate champion of Betpanda.io Bounty Hunter Poker League.

The grand finale thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5539232.0
Date: 27 April 2025
Time: 3 PM UTC

Starting stack will be 50k instead of 20k and blind will be up every 30 minutes instead of 22 minutes  . Initial decision time is also 30 sec instead of 20 seconds. Enjoy the game champions 
I will also record and than straeam the grand finale.
Shoutout to our sponsor: Betpanda.io

[MVPoker]

Ok so here is the second of the three hands that led me from hero to zero as I was beginning to gain control. Obviously the set would have made me a decent chip leader, but that's poker. Why call for the 33 in that spot? The value considerations here are multifaceted.





I get to limp in my 33 cheaply for 1 BB. I know xGennady is a standard call, iv4n will pay the blind for sure, AB de Royse777 is going all in like 90% sure, which helps me building a pot for a potential set without having to make any move or display any weakness or strength. This gives me the chance to knock him out on the one hand depending on how many people call, and if I hit the set, I got iv4n or xGennady or BitTraderCute, or all three of them on the hook. This is not about pure percentages in terms of how likely it is to hit a set, but what the set will pay and this was huge and worth my 4 blinds.

@iv4n instead makes a move first and since I know he is more of a loose player, I would certainly call because he would never let go in this case as AB de Royse777 called and is worth a bounty. If I don't hit, I fold against almost any continuation bet unless I flop value besides the set that is worth pursuing the hand against a loose player, which can still happen.

@iv4n made the right move here pre flop and post flop. Pre flop because he wanted to isolate AB de Royse777 and post flop as he has top pair, top kicker and backdoor value, bet size was about pot size, which is ok. He doesn't want three people to call. I knew this is what I was I waiting for and only a suck out could beat me. Was a little bit on the fence that iv4n pulled the trigger like that because I felt I could have sucked in xGennady and BitTraderCute as well.

Before this hand, I lost a KK vs. KJ hand, which I will post a bit later.

Edit: Of course feel free to chime in here everyone!

[AHOYBRAUSE]

So here we are, after the month long intense poker battles in 4 league tournaments, we have our 6 champions. Now, they will fight among themselves in order to decide the ultimate champion of Betpanda.io Bounty Hunter Poker League.

The grand finale thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5539232.0
Date: 27 April 2025
Time: 3 PM UTC

Starting stack will be 50k instead of 20k and blind will be up every 30 minutes instead of 22 minutes  . Initial decision time is also 30 sec instead of 20 seconds. Enjoy the game champions 
I will also record and than straeam the grand finale.
Shoutout to our sponsor: Betpanda.io

I like adjustments but raising both, stack and level, seems a bit too much doesn't it? After 1 hours we would still have an average stack of 125bb (excluding ante), that's very high. I would have raised one of the 2 things, starting stack OR level length. Or raised the starting stack to like 30k or something. But 2.5x really is a lot.
Of course it's up to you, just wanted to voice my opinion and maybe others think alike, don't know.

[MVPoker]

So here we are, after the month long intense poker battles in 4 league tournaments, we have our 6 champions. Now, they will fight among themselves in order to decide the ultimate champion of Betpanda.io Bounty Hunter Poker League.

The grand finale thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5539232.0
Date: 27 April 2025
Time: 3 PM UTC

Starting stack will be 50k instead of 20k and blind will be up every 30 minutes instead of 22 minutes  . Initial decision time is also 30 sec instead of 20 seconds. Enjoy the game champions 
I will also record and than straeam the grand finale.
Shoutout to our sponsor: Betpanda.io

I like adjustments but raising both, stack and level, seems a bit too much doesn't it? After 1 hours we would still have an average stack of 125bb (excluding ante), that's very high. I would have raised one of the 2 things, starting stack OR level length. Or raised the starting stack to like 30k or something. But 2.5x really is a lot.
Of course it's up to you, just wanted to voice my opinion and maybe others think alike, don't know.

I second this, looks too much to me.

[iv4n]

Edit: Of course feel free to chime in here everyone!

I think your analysis is great... you described how this hand went nicely, you also gave good reasons for each move that I agree with. I can only add what I wrote in the chat, I knew I was risking a lot... but I wanted you to fold if you only had strong cards (AK, AQ...) and not let you get something nice on the turn and river. But you had a nice set that I would never fold either! Ultimately, the cards chose me...

I have been on both sides many times, that's poker!

[memehunter]

I like adjustments but raising both, stack and level, seems a bit too much doesn't it? After 1 hours we would still have an average stack of 125bb (excluding ante), that's very high. I would have raised one of the 2 things, starting stack OR level length. Or raised the starting stack to like 30k or something. But 2.5x really is a lot.

I second this, looks too much to me.

Unfortunately, I can't change the structure after the table has been created. I even tried that with Pokernow premium but it is not possible. I changed the structure as it is a 6-max event and therefore hands will be dealt much faster than 10-max tables we usually have in league tournaments. Other than that, I wanted to give a relaxing and chill feeling to our finalists (atleast in the initial stages).
Thanks for your feedback but I think we have to play wiith this structure . As per my estimation, this will take much less time to complete than our league tournaments.
Good Luck     

[MVPoker]

Ok so I will continue with the first of the three hands that were a bad beat to say the last. But how it came about is interesting because under usual poker considerations, this hand wouldn't even have made it to the flop.



I have KK and raise it to 8 BB for a reason. Some of the guys at the table were on fire calling everything with trash. There are a few reasons for that, but one is that they want the bounty on my head (though I think it is the least important reason to mention here). BitTraderCute paid off all the time, but got lucky and hence has those chips. Almost every other player except for two other guys easily chip in 4 BB for fun. But with KK I want an opponent, maybe two, but not five or six, which is easily possible since iv4n would call if xGennady calls, then almost everyone is 100% a call.

SO I decide to make it 8 BB, which puts xGennady at all essentially (you would think). Then go from there. However, xGennady only calls, which almost crossed my plans since it wasn't unlikely that now the other call too. Calling 8 BB with over 50% of your stack doesn't exist as a plausible move in poker. It is either shove or fold, always. There is no "let me see the flop" while paying an oversized bet with just 15 BB in front of you.

Anyway xGennady calls, everyone else folds and no matter what shows up on the flop, as first to act, my continuation bet in the dark is set in stone. xGennady can only hope, and his hope was heard.



I had the KK losing against KJ and then not too long after that hand the set 333 lose against A10. Everyone knows, on some days you not only have no luck, but bad luck. @AHOYBRAUSE can sing a song about that with all those freaking bad starting hands. But once you get a hand and you can finally play, you get sucked out by a faaaaar inferior hand. That is the moment I look at my keyboard with my head down as if the keyboard was my enemy, you know what I mean


@memehunter the buffering on odysee.com is sooo smooth. On Youtube it usually stops for a moment and then you can go forward again. On Odysee.com going back and forth works like a charm, how is that possible? Is it only me or you have the same experience? 

[iv4n]

Ok so I will continue...

As you wish...

... with the first of the three hands that were a bad beat to say the last. But how it came about is interesting because under usual poker considerations, this hand wouldn't even have made it to the flop.

I think you gave a nice analysis of this hand, but it's an analysis from your perspective. But here's the question, what would you do if you were Gennady?

We can talk/analyze now (after the battle everyone is a general), but with that bankroll (taking into account others), the moment in the tournament, and maybe "just maybe" after many hands with very weak/bad cards maybe I would do the same... I would risk half or my bankroll to see the flop. Since I paid a zillion times to see the flop with all sorts of cards that wouldn't be a strange thing for me. And I guess we can agree with that thing, sometimes the flop give us an edge, many times we just fold.

I understand your logic, I have it too. It's a poker player logic, something like "what would be normal to do at that moment, what would you do", but... but every situation is different, and above everything there's that luck! What ever cards you have flop can be generous or not, turn can make a real mess, and river can turn situation upside down.

Conclusions?

Oh, I have a lot of them, and I laugh at them because they have let me down so many times. What about you?

[len01]

If you remember, I have felt this case when you knock out me in the previous tournament. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5536217.msg65253151#msg65253151
The only difference is that I made the mistake of not going all in on the first flop. So you must have known that if I had 888 and you had a flush, you could beat me.

[arallmuus]

Unfortunately, I can't change the structure after the table has been created.

Is it not possible to abandon the table and create a new one? Not that I am familiar with how pokernow works though

As per my estimation, this will take much less time to complete than our league tournaments.

How many hours on average was the 4 league round was? Pretty sure the final table would be way longer than that because of the blind structure and since its a grand finale with decent amount of prizes at stake, most players will be extra tight for sure.

but seriously though, an ideal blind structure would be 10-15 minutes. Anything longer than that just gets pretty boring

[memehunter]

@memehunter the buffering on odysee.com is sooo smooth. On Youtube it usually stops for a moment and then you can go forward again. On Odysee.com going back and forth works like a charm, how is that possible? Is it only me or you have the same experience? 

Guess what? Youtube has also lifted all my restrictions, accepting their mistake. Yes, you are right, Odysee.com is also good and I am going to upload the videos on both platforms from now on.

Is it not possible to abandon the table and create a new one? Not that I am familiar with how pokernow works though

It is possible, but I do not think it is required for such things. It can create confusion among participants.

How many hours on average was the 4 league round was? Pretty sure the final table would be way longer than that because of the blind structure and since its a grand finale with decent amount of prizes at stake, most players will be extra tight for sure.

Around 2.5 hrs. With 22 minutes blind and there was a final table in each tournament, obviously 
I don't think this will last longer than that with 6 players but even if it does I am sure it will not be too much.   

[iv4n]

How many hours on average was the 4 league round was? Pretty sure the final table would be way longer than that because of the blind structure and since its a grand finale with decent amount of prizes at stake, most players will be extra tight for sure.

Around 2.5 hrs. With 22 minutes blind and there was a final table in each tournament, obviously 
I don't think this will last longer than that with 6 players but even if it does I am sure it will not be too much.   

Those who survive 3 hours of play automatically go into "all in mode" every next hand at 3:01.

"Most players will be extra tight for sure", me too. No matter how long it takes and no matter how tight the players are at the beginning, I expect an interesting game and a good fight!

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Those who survive 3 hours of play automatically go into "all in mode" every next hand at 3:01.

"Most players will be extra tight for sure", me too. No matter how long it takes and no matter how tight the players are at the beginning, I expect an interesting game and a good fight!

Not in this weekend's format. If we reach a running time as long as 3 hours the average stack is still kinda big, no need to go allin. Let's say we are in HU already after 3 hours, that's 300k in chips in circulation and the big blind is 1500/3000. So even is someone has a 3:1 chip advantage the small stack would still have 33 big blinds.
With this slow blind increase and a 250bb starting stack I doubt we will see preflop allins with AJ or other nonsense. The only incentive that rewards aggressive play is the big bounties. Collecting 2 bounties has the same worth as becoming first, even though first of course gets at least 200$ (100$ for 1st place, his own and 2nd place's bounty worth 50$ each).

[magician0_0]

memehunter I saw your message to me a only few days ago. Thank you for the invitation, but I wasn't online on bitcointalk for weeks and I only followed R7 Campaign Management telegram. Now I missed this betpanda series. If you plan something new, please let me know again and I will make sure I read it in time and then I will participate. I asked few times in discord if dgbet wants to host another tournament, but no good responses and poker channel is dead. I will play 1win today and I see you are participating, meet you there.

[memehunter]

I doubt we will see preflop allins with AJ or other nonsense.

, You never know.

If you plan something new, please let me know again and I will make sure I read it in time and then I will participate.

Sure, I will even shoot you a PM. I am definitely planning more community poker events, stay tuned. 

We will be live with the grand finale in a few minutes, below is the look and feel of the table;



Thanks, Betpanda.io , for supporting such community events. #casinowithnohassle #casinothatcares

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Good luck for future tournaments, I am out of these so no need to put me in any future notifications. When you get 0 results against the worst players imaginable, that can't even say gg when constantly sucking out with the worst plays in history ( but talk like they did the right move because they got bailed out with the the miracle river), it makes no sense to waste my time.

Thanks for hosting this one and yeah, see ya around. Will unwatch this thread so I won't check the replies.