Betpanda.io Bounty Hunter Poker League, Big Prizes!, Huge Bounties!!, Discussion

[xLays]

I don't even know what to say. Even me I feel like I'm cheating the tournament because of what happen. Imagine winning the tournament without any effort — not just once, but three times! The river really loves me. I knocked out all the players and took all the prizes (except, of course the 2nd and 3rd prizes).

The only thing I can say is thank you to Memehunter for managing this so well, and to Betpanda.io for sponsoring the poker touranement. Peace out!

[memehunter]

I don't even know what to say. Even me I feel like I'm cheating the tournament because of what happen. Imagine winning the tournament without any effort — not just once, but three times! The river really loves me. I knocked out all the players and took all the prizes (except, of course the 2nd and 3rd prizes).

You deserve it. You have played and won among the best of the best. Variance is just a part of poker and every tournament winner requires it by default  . You won every single bounty, impressive performance.

The only thing I can say is thank you to Memehunter for managing this so well, and to Betpanda.io for sponsoring the poker touranement. Peace out!

Thanks.
Indeed, sponsoring this one-month-long community event is a great gesture on their part.

Good luck for future tournaments, I am out of these so no need to put me in any future notifications. When you get 0 results against the worst players imaginable, that can't even say gg when constantly sucking out with the worst plays in history ( but talk like they did the right move because they got bailed out with the the miracle river), it makes no sense to waste my time.

Thanks for hosting this one and yeah, see ya around. Will unwatch this thread so I won't check the replies.

You have suffered some very nasty bad beats over this one-month-long event, for sure. I know you have a high sportsman spirit and this will not dwindle by the absence of a simple 'gg' by someone. You showed up in every single tournament, played with full focus, that's all that is in your hands.  


Watch this action pack final table : https://odysee.com/@memehunter:4/GF

Here is the final standing of our champions;




Prize distribution:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5539232.msg65321648#msg65321648
 

[memehunter]

Here is the compilation of each knockout at the grand finale, $50 each . Our champion @xLays just sabotaged the table by knocking out literally every single player lol. He won 6 bounties (including his own) $50 each plus the 1st place prize worth $100. Which one of his knockouts is more brutal lol
Let me start with my opinion, for me the first one where he cracked AHOYBRAUSE's aces was more brutal as AHOYBRAUSE played it like a pro, denying him the equity for drawing to the flush. But he gets there anyway.
He knocked out almost everyone in that fashion but the final KO was brutal too but since they both get it done pre, IMO it is less brutal, beside it hurt less when are in the money lol.

[mv1986]

The hand against AHOYBRAUSE was not played very well to say the least... The weird thing about xLays's decision is that he doesn't take the 1BB bet as a present to see the last card. Instead he raises pot size with close to zero equity. AHOYBRAUSE even blocks the nut flush, but xLays would probably push any two. AHOYBRAUSE sends the info bet and yet xLays goes over, which he should have never done. He loses this hand more than 4 out of 5 times. The 7 won't save him realistically speaking and AHOYBRAUSE is the tightest player we have. What did he think AHOYBRAUSE is doing so early in the tournament? Pull off a mega bluff with nothing? Lol, of course not. I don't know if it was desperation or bad calculations, but you can never get your K7 into the middle for your tournament life on the turn like that.

[MVPoker]

... with the first of the three hands that were a bad beat to say the last. But how it came about is interesting because under usual poker considerations, this hand wouldn't even have made it to the flop.

I think you gave a nice analysis of this hand, but it's an analysis from your perspective. But here's the question, what would you do if you were Gennady?

We can talk/analyze now (after the battle everyone is a general), but with that bankroll (taking into account others), the moment in the tournament, and maybe "just maybe" after many hands with very weak/bad cards maybe I would do the same... I would risk half or my bankroll to see the flop. Since I paid a zillion times to see the flop with all sorts of cards that wouldn't be a strange thing for me. And I guess we can agree with that thing, sometimes the flop give us an edge, many times we just fold.

I understand your logic, I have it too. It's a poker player logic, something like "what would be normal to do at that moment, what would you do", but... but every situation is different, and above everything there's that luck! What ever cards you have flop can be generous or not, turn can make a real mess, and river can turn situation upside down.

Conclusions?

Oh, I have a lot of them, and I laugh at them because they have let me down so many times. What about you?

Hey @iv4n, it is never a call with KJs out of position and the risk that you build a pot others may like and join, too. With 16 BB and an 8 BB raise before it is your turn, it is never a call under any circumstance. It is either all in, which I can understand in that spot, or a fold. Because against an 8 BB raise, how many hands do you beat and what is your position if two more players call when you hold KJ? You are literally calling for flopping the nuts or very high value on the flop. So in a certain sense you want to get it all in anyway and you don't want to get it all in with KJ against four or five players. You want to isolate one player and double up because that puts you at 35+ BB and you are right back again.

Not every situation is different. There is a best move as per the poker player handbook, which is based on position and probabilities. And even if xGennady thinks he has me beat, he still doesn't want others to call with KJ. Maybe he could do it with KQ, but at the end of the day my raise indicates he lost the hand most likely if he doesn't hit the flop whereas I am either holding a pair already, holding an ace or holding KQ. Moves in positions like these is closer to chess and therefore it is not like "every situation is different".

Ask yourself this: if he finds himself in that spot 100 times, what do you think how often he wins the hand if, let's say, I hold 10 10 and instead of isolating me with all in, he builds a pot that two other players might find attractive and call? Not very often, I tell you that. But if he isolates me with KJs against 10 10, he has a very decent chance to get close to 50%. That's the mathematics behind it.

Luck doesn't justify every move. When someone calls my A10 all in with J2 and flops a set of 2s, it doesn't mean it was the right call. I guess you agree. Poker is a game of chance where you have influence considering table position, bet and stack sizes, and sometimes a few individual circumstances like when someone is calling with junk every single hand and you observe that for a while. But assuming I play junk with my 8 BB raise wouldn't end successfully very often  

[iv4n]

Hey @iv4n, it is never a call with KJs out of position and the risk that you build a pot others may like and join, too.

Never say never...

As always, your analysis is spot on, and I agree with everything you said, but... there's always that but! As you wrote "Poker is a game of chance where you have influence considering table position, bet and stack sizes, and sometimes a few individual circumstances", but the most important thing is the player himself. We are not robots, a lot depends on our mood and sometimes it is difficult to maintain concentration throughout the game, especially if we get distracted by some hands.
In the last tournament, I was 4th, and that was a success. I made several mistakes somewhere in the middle of the game... and the worst was when I wanted to call two 5s and mistakenly clicked on the fold! The five came out immediately on flop, and it was 100% my win. Sometimes it is difficult to get out of some stupid things and return to the game.

The weird thing about xLays's ...

xLays had his lucky day! It's amazing what kind of hands he won!

PS Will there be any game this week? Maybe some private cash table or tournament with 20-30 dollars buy-in?

[memehunter]

[PS Will there be any game this week? Maybe some private cash table or tournament with 20-30 dollars buy-in?

Well, there will be no sponsored poker tournament this Sunday, at least not hosted by me. But your suggestion is good. We can have a $25-buck private sit-and-go among us. I know for sure @mv1986 will be in (with delight ). I am in, and you are in, so if 3-4 more players come, which I don't think will be very difficult, I can host this.
If you guys need any tweaks regarding the structure and timings, let me know and I will create a dedicated thread for this one right away.     

[GxSTxV]

Here is the compilation of each knockout at the grand finale, $50 each . Our champion @xLays just sabotaged the table by knocking out literally every single player lol. He won 6 bounties (including his own) $50 each plus the 1st place prize worth $100. Which one of his knockouts is more brutal lol
Let me start with my opinion, for me the first one where he cracked AHOYBRAUSE's aces was more brutal as AHOYBRAUSE played it like a pro, denying him the equity for drawing to the flush. But he gets there anyway.
He knocked out almost everyone in that fashion but the final KO was brutal too but since they both get it done pre, IMO it is less brutal, beside it hurt less when are in the money lol.

I just had the chance to watch some of these thrilling knockouts since I wasn’t able to qualify for the grand finals, most of the hands were decided after the river was revealed, I wonder the reaction of each player. I can see that some players were incredibly lucky while others were just as unlucky. Thats the beauty of poker anything can happen until the very last card.

I must say, Memehunter continues to prove why he's one of the best in our poker community. Among his impressive performance, he also gave a lot to build the community and successfully hosted this event without any issues. Hopefully, we see more events like this in the future with even more participants joining. I remember during the early rounds of Royse event, we had fewer than 10 players. Now, we seeing around 30 players, which shows how much interest is growing.

Big thanks to Betpanda for sponsoring this event. Maybe one day we see them launch their own poker platform inside the casino.

[MVPoker]

Here is the compilation of each knockout at the grand finale, $50 each . Our champion @xLays just sabotaged the table by knocking out literally every single player lol. He won 6 bounties (including his own) $50 each plus the 1st place prize worth $100. Which one of his knockouts is more brutal lol
Let me start with my opinion, for me the first one where he cracked AHOYBRAUSE's aces was more brutal as AHOYBRAUSE played it like a pro, denying him the equity for drawing to the flush. But he gets there anyway.
He knocked out almost everyone in that fashion but the final KO was brutal too but since they both get it done pre, IMO it is less brutal, beside it hurt less when are in the money lol.

I just had the chance to watch some of these thrilling knockouts since I wasn’t able to qualify for the grand finals, most of the hands were decided after the river was revealed, I wonder the reaction of each player. I can see that some players were incredibly lucky while others were just as unlucky. Thats the beauty of poker anything can happen until the very last card.

I must say, Memehunter continues to prove why he's one of the best in our poker community. Among his impressive performance, he also gave a lot to build the community and successfully hosted this event without any issues. Hopefully, we see more events like this in the future with even more participants joining. I remember during the early rounds of Royse event, we had fewer than 10 players. Now, we seeing around 30 players, which shows how much interest is growing.

Big thanks to Betpanda for sponsoring this event. Maybe one day we see them launch their own poker platform inside the casino.

memehunter has dealt with it very well, merits well deserved by the way if anyone doesn't know where to send them! Organization was on point and he even jumped in once I had a technical mess up with a bounty I had to pay. No hesitation, he lived up to all promises.

@memehunter, first round of whatever poker round we get going, buy in is on me for $20 or $30, whatever it will be. I know memehunter is relentlessly working on expanding the community around poker, which I think is amazing! Always on time, always fair, he is to blame I play more poker again these days We have been discussing chess tournaments, but the cheating potential is too high. Chess is so amazing, I love it, but there is no good way to prevent cheating. 

[iv4n]

It took me 5 minutes to figure out the difference between the usernames... It's late for me, and too much wine & cigars tonight.

I know memehunter is relentlessly working on expanding the community around poker, which I think is amazing! Always on time, always fair, he is to blame I play more poker again these days

"Relentlessly working", "expanding poker community", "always on time & fair", and "he is to blame I am more interested in poker again"... You found all the right words MV. There are some other things as well, but "We don't want to praise him too much so he doesn't get cocky". Some old saying...

We have been discussing chess tournaments, but the cheating potential is too high. Chess is so amazing, I love it, but there is no good way to prevent cheating. 

I haven't played chess in years, at least not with serious players. In the last couple of years, my exposure to chess has been showing kids and teaching them how to move the pieces. Anyway, if you can find a way, I'm in... but for a start, some small stakes, if possible.

PS I saw your " Occasional Poker Rounds" thread... I like to support something nice & good. Meme and you do good things and I will always be happy to respond to your actions. So count me in!

[memehunter]

@memehunter, first round of whatever poker round we get going, buy in is on me for $20 or $30, whatever it will be.

Thanks mv. It is all going back to anyway . I am having terrible performance against you.

I know memehunter is relentlessly working on expanding the community around poker, which I think is amazing! Always on time, always fair, he is to blame I play more poker again these days We have been discussing chess tournaments, but the cheating potential is too high. Chess is so amazing, I love it, but there is no good way to prevent cheating. 

Thanks for your kind words, honestly, the increasing interest in poker we are seeing nowadays is because of community support and sponsors like 1win and Betpanda, etc. Special thanks to Royse who is doing such events on a regular basis.
Mv you love the game, I know that, but you always proactively support the community tournaments with regular participation and great ideas, which is a great thing.
Indeed hosting a fair chess tournament is on my bucket list and I am sure we will figure out something to prevent cheating.

"Relentlessly working", "expanding poker community", "always on time & fair", and "he is to blame I am more interested in poker again"... You found all the right words MV. There are some other things as well, but "We don't want to praise him too much so he doesn't get cocky". Some old saying...

[Mr. Magkaisa]

We have been discussing chess tournaments, but the cheating potential is too high. Chess is so amazing, I love it, but there is no good way to prevent cheating. 

I love to join this tournament butt you are correct, cheating is easy on chess when playing online.

PS I saw your " Occasional Poker Rounds" thread... I like to support something nice & good. Meme and you do good things and I will always be happy to respond to your actions. So count me in!

I am also waiting for the next competition that memehunter will organize (such a great event). If you want to join our weekly poker (also with them) you can check 1win poker. We will have a round tonight at 3PM UTC