do you consider what you gamble an expense or investment?

[Japinat]

Let me ask you something, I’d like to know how you treat the money you use for gambling. Do you consider it an expense or an investment? These two should be approached very differently. Just like in business, expenses don’t generate income, while investments are meant to grow. What do you think? Please explain your answer as well.

[_act_]

No one should see the money they are using to gamble as an investment fund. It should be seen as money that you want to use to have fun. Just like you can go out with friends during weekends and spend little amount of money. That is how you should see the money you are using to gamble. It will also let you know that it should be a very small amount of money which you can afford to lose.

[freedomgo]

It feels lighter if we treat it as an expense because it’s easier to move on when we lose as from the very beginning, we already accept that the money is likely not coming back. That’s the meaning of an expense, right?

But if we treat it as an investment, we might end up spending too much time and effort trying to experiment and chase success in gambling, forgetting the reality that the chances of long-term success as a gambler are very slim.

[finaleshot2016]

Let me ask you something, I’d like to know how you treat the money you use for gambling. Do you consider it an expense or an investment? These two should be approached very differently. Just like in business, expenses don’t generate income, while investments are meant to grow. What do you think? Please explain your answer as well.

Gambling isn't really an investment tbh especially in a game where you are clueless of the result or maybe relying too much on luck. It's far from investment but if you're talking about a real investment especially in crypto, there is a risk, but it's not a gambling because there is certain assurance that you can win due to analyzing charts and such. I think this statement is being formulated because of gambling and crypto as a topic but yeah, like what I've said, it's far from it. Gambling is really different, you can instantly lose a lot of money because you're clueless to it and no idea how things work.

It's an expense. Nothing else.

[Ultegra134]

It's not an investment, treat it like one and you'll end up like those addicts that constantly find excuses for themselves. It's an expense, think of it like a hobby, and hobbies sometimes (or always) require to spend some money on them. That's how I see things at least, I prefer to be blunt and honest with myself rather than find excuses to gamble. Things can easily become expensive if you don't have a budget or self-control.

[Oshosondy]

Gambling isn't really an investment tbh especially in a game where you are clueless of the result or maybe relying too much on luck.

Really isn't an investment means it still have an element of investment in it. Gambling is not an investment. That is just what it is. Even if a gambler have a clue of what could be the result, he may be wrong and lose. Less than 3 to 5 of gamblers are losing which is the reason people should know how it should not be an investment. People can not be investing on what they are losing money.

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It's far from investment.
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That is just it. Gambling is far from what can be called investment. It is not an investment. Stupidity and getting towards gambling addiction will let someone think it is an investment.

[Wapfika]

Let me ask you something, I’d like to know how you treat the money you use for gambling. Do you consider it an expense or an investment? These two should be approached very differently. Just like in business, expenses don’t generate income, while investments are meant to grow. What do you think? Please explain your answer as well.

It’s always an expenses since gambling is a source of entertainment not a financial tool so there’s no way it can be considered as investment or else this is a very risky investment that can be considered as meme coin investment and so on.

Gambling games has a house edge that is high enough to make players successful in the long run.

Investment gives you flexibility and fixed profit with less risk while gambling is purely based on luck which means there’s no certainty that you will actually have profit.

[JiiBs]

Let me ask you something, I’d like to know how you treat the money you use for gambling. Do you consider it an expense or an investment? These two should be approached very differently. Just like in business, expenses don’t generate income, while investments are meant to grow. What do you think? Please explain your answer as well.

It’s always an investment until it’s not, lol…

I don’t think there is anyone who gamble without the hope of winning. Even in an event where the risk seems so overly taken, you still expect only what’s imaginable to happen out of the blue and get you that win. The fact that you hope to win means, you actually took your chases with an investment.

When you lose eventually, then it becomes an expense. You don’t get to think much of it and you get the fun out of it if you’ve got a good sense of humor.

[yenerbatmaz]

Let me ask you something, I’d like to know how you treat the money you use for gambling. Do you consider it an expense or an investment? These two should be approached very differently. Just like in business, expenses don’t generate income, while investments are meant to grow. What do you think? Please explain your answer as well.

It is neither an expense nor an investment. It is just something for fun.

After all, you can make good money but you will definitely lose that money.
It is just a fun thing where you lose money, that's all.
The only people who invest in gambling are the casino owners. They buy slot machines and offer them to the gamblers.
Investment is exactly that. It is not an investment made by the gambler.

[promise444c5]

Let me ask you something, I’d like to know how you treat the money you use for gambling. Do you consider it an expense or an investment? These two should be approached very differently. Just like in business, expenses don’t generate income, while investments are meant to grow. What do you think? Please explain your answer as well.

Lol who  uses gambling as investment, investment is normally expected to yield a return somehow and that's the aim...
You don't &shouldn't gamble with such  intentions , you should gamble for fun and expect mostly nothing in return.. if you do then consider it your luck and yeah most people don't gamble for fun normally but only gamble with the money you can afford to lose talk more of taking it as investment ..that will be somehow dumb  as it not something you can hold as a real investment  imo.

[BitMaxz]

I never heard someone consider gambling as investment, no guaranteed returns and the possibility you'd become addicted, which could lead to frustration. This is the reason why I think other people keep gambling and think someday they're going to win huge, but the fact is it should not be thought of gambling as an investment.

So it should be consider as expense just for fun because we're spending money for entertainment purposes.

[Nwada001]

The money I spend on gambling falls under consumption expenditure. I don't expect anything in return for it; I spend it just like I could have spent it on anything else if it wasn't for gambling, and if I get anything from gambling that's considered to be a bonus – something the casino rewards me with for playing with them and spending money too.

[Davidvictorson]

Let me ask you something, I’d like to know how you treat the money you use for gambling. Do you consider it an expense or an investment? These two should be approached very differently. Just like in business, expenses don’t generate income, while investments are meant to grow. What do you think? Please explain your answer as well.

It is not clear cut for me. There are sometimes when I approach gambling with an investment mindset but I recognize that it is not truly an investment. Both gambling and investing involve risk, but with investment, I have some control over the outcome its success often depends on my efforts. In contrast, gambling is entirely uncertain even if I only wager what I can afford to lose as a form of risk management. I would only treat gambling as an investment, is if I collect money from people to "teach" them how to gamble, give them betting signals for a fee. Otherwise gambling, it is just an expenditure.

[death69]

Expense or investment? Wrong framing, my friend. It’s neither, it’s an experience. A transaction with risk, reward, adrenaline, sometimes regret, sometimes self-revelation. Labeling it expense turns it into loss; calling it investment adds delusion. Most gamblers aren’t investing. They’re chasing sensations, probabilities, control in chaos, and sometimes, just sometimes, escape.

You can’t spreadsheet that.

You think in ROI, but what about emotional ROI? What about the cost of ignoring your intuition? What about learning curves paid in blood and dopamine? The market gamblers, the poker players, the degen traders, they’re not just throwing money, they’re testing beliefs, testing patterns, testing themselves.

Sure, sometimes they call it investing to justify it. Other times they call it an expense to rationalize losing. But under all of it, it is a very real interaction with unpredictability. Not everything that costs you is an expense. Not everything that pays you is an investment.

Sometimes you lose money and gain clarity. Sometimes you win money and lose your grip. So, what do you value more?

[Wexnident]

Let me ask you something, I’d like to know how you treat the money you use for gambling. Do you consider it an expense or an investment? These two should be approached very differently. Just like in business, expenses don’t generate income, while investments are meant to grow. What do you think? Please explain your answer as well.

Expense. I swear anyone who thinks it's an investment needs to go see a therapist because they need some help lol. And no, it's not just simple expense, it's just a sub section of that mainly expenses used to have fun and enjoy yourself. Gambling should NOT be anything more than that. Well I guess it can be, but only if you're filthy rich. If not just let it be like that lol

[Perfectbaby]

I do not see the using for gambling as an investment rather a money using to have fun and if the fun generates additional funds then it's a plus to me, but however Even though people directly consider gambling as investments then I will say it assumed that the approach the gambling as investments and that is how they sees it from their own angle and points of view. Realistically,  gambling should be treated as a game of fun rather than investments because investments in gambling doesn't usually gives birth to profits as when we needed it through gambling ways rather it comes as probability.

[2Pizza410000BTC]

Let me ask you something, I’d like to know how you treat the money you use for gambling. Do you consider it an expense or an investment? These two should be approached very differently. Just like in business, expenses don’t generate income, while investments are meant to grow. What do you think? Please explain your answer as well.

Gambling is a part of entertainment, gambling is never an investment and should not be seen as an investment. Gambling requires a very limited amount of money to be used, and that too for entertainment because gambling can lose you money at any time. Although investment is risky, there is a guarantee of investment because in terms of crypto currency, Bitcoin investment provides a lot of guarantee, due to which invest is much less risky, but gambling is much more risky because gambling is completely dependent on luck and money can be lost at any time, so gambling should never be seen as an investment.

[Hazink]

Expense. I swear anyone who thinks it's an investment needs to go see a therapist because they need some help lol. And no, it's not just simple expense, it's just a sub section of that mainly expenses used to have fun and enjoy yourself. Gambling should NOT be anything more than that. Well I guess it can be, but only if you're filthy rich. If not just let it be like that lol

Therapists they need indeed, because anyone in their normal senses shouldn't consider gambling to be some form of investment where you put in money and expect something in return. From the way gambling is programmed, it's supposed to be used for entertainment purposes and not the other way around; the risk involved is too much to even try to give it a second thought.

[Kristiyana]

Let me ask you something, I’d like to know how you treat the money you use for gambling. Do you consider it an expense or an investment? These two should be approached very differently. Just like in business, expenses don’t generate income, while investments are meant to grow. What do you think? Please explain your answer as well.

Well in some cases i think we can consider it as investment since it can generate income most times, because we get profited from gambling most times. And there are some people out there who became rich through gambling. Not that they take it as thier source of income. I'm talking about those set of people that win millions in gambling and most of them was wish enough to use the profit to invest into something that can profit them both now and as well in the future, But to be realistic gambling is not an investment since luck play all the role.

[JunaidAzizi]

It feels lighter if we treat it as an expense because it’s easier to move on when we lose as from the very beginning, we already accept that the money is likely not coming back. That’s the meaning of an expense, right?

But if we treat it as an investment, we might end up spending too much time and effort trying to experiment and chase success in gambling, forgetting the reality that the chances of long-term success as a gambler are very slim.

You are right, sir. Gambling should be treated as an expense, not as an investment. However, I am a little bit confused maybe you can help. There are two kinds of users, one comes just for entertainment, and we can categorize him in the expense section. The other user comes to earn from gambling, and he is trying again and again but can't stop. This means he is coming for profit. So, do we classify him as an expense type or an investment type? As you mentioned, chasing the winnings without looking at reality, the second person is also doing the same as you described. Can we categorize him in the investment section, or can someone truly invest in gambling or not?