Request for Mega Thread for Trump under Politics and Society

[Doan9269]

I have an idea which I don't know if this has been discussed before or not, this has to do with spamming and creation of several related threads on the same or similar subjects matter, I remember when I visited the politics and society board, I discovered the presence of many threads which have been on a subject matter "Trump" then I begin to count on these threads and discover about eight 8 topics have the subject matter Trump for discussion on a single page and not to even consider about other pages.

I don't know if it is possible to merge all these related discussions together on a single thread on politics and society board, and apply the same on economics and bitcoin discussion board respectively where Trump has been a major or key factor of a discussion, because I can see from how everyone is just sourcing out for more course of discussion on a separate thread which can still be a discussion we can make under a single "Mega Thread for Trump".

I can see such example like Russia invasion of Ukraine mega thread which allows for more discussions related to the war on that same mega thread, same applies to another mega thread for the celebration of new rank acheivement by members under reputation, after we can indiscriminately see members posting about their new rank celebration on beginners and help and some on reputation board, but now we have a mega thread for that and we can keep on counting on other related mega thread across the forum, this prompted me to seek on whether we can have such with Trump discussions and serve as mega thread than everyone bringing a piece of article under Trump to create his new thread, this idea will help with the visibility of new topics and reduction of spam under the same subject matter Trump.

[notocactus]

I begin to count on these threads and discover about eight 8 topics have the subject matter Trump for discussion on a single page and not to even consider about other pages.

we can make under a single "Mega Thread for Trump".

Trump is not about the forum and you can not prohibit people to create more new threads about Trump.

You can not make such restriction so let them be with more new threads. If you see any thread is low value, no value, you can report that thread to moderators and they can delete or move it to Offtopic board or trash can.

Trump is not all things people want to discuss in this forum, from politics to Bitcoin regulation, policies and more.

[_act_]

I don't know if it is possible to merge all these related discussions together on a single thread on politics and society board, and apply the same on economics and bitcoin discussion board respectively where Trump has been a major or key factor of a discussio.

That is possible but moderators can not do that. There is a reason people that created a thread are referred to as OP. Also this has not happened before on this forum that I know about.

If you think it is getting too many, track the board and be reporting new topics that you see as duplicates there. But make sure that the thread are discussions about the same thing because there can be many threads about Trump but discussing about different things.

[Doan9269]

Now i see to learn more regarding this, since its not a general affairs that have anything to do with the forum, members can create topics and it can also be reported as base on the kind of quality it present, though i was only bothered the moment i discovered incessant creation of threads on that same board with the subject matter, which i interpreted for something else being abnormal, but since you all have pointed your view regarding it, i got all the information right and thanks for the enlightenment.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

If you think it is getting too many, track the board and be reporting new topics that you see as duplicates there. But make sure that the thread are discussions about the same thing because there can be many threads about Trump but discussing about different things.

I haven't visited that cesspool of a section in years (and still won't after reading this thread), but I concur with _act_'s suggestion to report threads that might be duplicates--or close enough such that they don't need to coexist.  Moderators might be sympathetic, and I'd be willing to bet people are creating threads with either the same topic or with minor variations, just like when you visit Bitcoin Discussion and see a bunch of 'bitcoin vs. gold' nonsense.  I've been seeing that shit for 10 years now, and I don't think it'll ever end.

Gotta love this place, eh?

[Lucius]

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Moderators might be sympathetic, and I'd be willing to bet people are creating threads with either the same topic or with minor variations, just like when you visit Bitcoin Discussion and see a bunch of 'bitcoin vs. gold' nonsense.  I've been seeing that shit for 10 years now, and I don't think it'll ever end.

Gotta love this place, eh?

Some people obviously take freedom of expression literally - or maybe it's a matter of lack of polite behavior and complete carelessness. What else do you call someone who sees 5 almost identical topics and opens another one?

The only situation in which it is justified to have multiple identical topics is when it comes to self-moderated topics, because if you don't want someone to moderate your posts, you have the right to open your own topic.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

I don't think it's a big problem either and I don't think the moderation or the administrator will do anything about it.

What else do you call someone who sees 5 almost identical topics and opens another one?

I think the key here is 'almost'. If in doubt you can report as you know but I think moderation deals with them on a case by case basis, and if they contain a slightly different angle I don't think they will act. I see it even up to a slight absurd extent. If you have to have a single thread about Trump then the same should apply to one about Satoshi, or Michael Saylor.

[KingsDen]

I do not see much of a problem here. The politics and society board is always flooded with contemporary issues. Some months ago it was all about Trump and Hamas because of the US elections, now it is Trump and crypto. Another news will also come to overtake the trend, so it is not strange to see Trump related president.
It is also not bad to see enough of him in the PS board if they are quality posts. Besides, he is regarded as the crypto president.

[Mrbluntzy]

What you suggest is not possible and has never been done before, it's not like your idea is bad but I mean, there have always been similar thread coming up even in the past until now and yet the admin doesn't merge the topics together to form a mega thread.

This issues has two options as solution,
  _The first is, when you see similar threads that is discussing the same topic, identify the first topic that was created, copy the link, go to the second thread that was last created and past it in your comment and inform the OP that the same topic have already been created by someone else. Urge them to lock theirs.
_The second option, when you have done the first option and the OP didn't lock the topic, reports to moderator to lock a duplicate thread, in your report, include the link of the first thread so that moderators will not find it difficult to start going to look for the old duplicate which probably could make them not attend to the report.

[SilverCryptoBullet]

This issues has two options as solution,
  _The first is, when you see similar threads that is discussing the same topic, identify the first topic that was created, copy the link, go to the second thread that was last created and past it in your comment and inform the OP that the same topic have already been created by someone else. Urge them to lock theirs.
_The second option, when you have done the first option and the OP didn't lock the topic, reports to moderator to lock a duplicate thread, in your report, include the link of the first thread so that moderators will not find it difficult to start going to look for the old duplicate which probably could make them not attend to the report.

If it is thread for news sharing, you can use the first solution, then the second solution and I believe moderator will agree with your report and lock those threads that were created later than previous threads that share a same news.

If it is a thread for putting some ideas and mixing some news, information for discussion, I believe moderator will not agree with your report and not lock those threads. Their solution can be a movement of those threads to Offtopic board than locking.

I saw Charles-Tim was quick perhaps he has a lot of online time, very updated with news and used the first approach many times.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5534192.msg65130024#msg65130024

[Cryptohygenic]

First I will say it could be coincidence that the said Trump discussion threads piled in a role in just one board as mentioned "politics and society" and I don't think that should be a problem in as much they are not spamming.
Trump has acquired a highily profile in the international politics and has also played crucial roles on bitcoin and the crypto industry. So I think there is feasible enough reasons to make discussions of him which should not be a worry about.
Creating a mega thread of him in this platform is assumed he is an official or special entity here or on the Crypto world and he does not worth it and not even Satohsi the founder of the platform and bitcoin has Worth that recognition in this decentralized system.

[Doan9269]

What you suggest is not possible and has never been done before, it's not like your idea is bad but I mean, there have always been similar thread coming up even in the past until now and yet the admin doesn't merge the topics together to form a mega thread.

To buttress more on my plight on creating this, it does not have to be what the admin must do by himself, any other member of the forum can also take it up if needs be and they find out its of a necessity, but after several considerations on what other members have contributed, i think its more better to go from what you said on the latter aspect below.

This issues has two options as solution,
  _The first is, when you see similar threads that is discussing the same topic, identify the first topic that was created, copy the link, go to the second thread that was last created and past it in your comment and inform the OP that the same topic have already been created by someone else. Urge them to lock theirs.
_The second option, when you have done the first option and the OP didn't lock the topic, reports to moderator to lock a duplicate thread, in your report, include the link of the first thread so that moderators will not find it difficult to start going to look for the old duplicate which probably could make them not attend to the report.

This two best made the resolution on what should be done or acted, in case of any related appearance of similar threads.

[NotATether]

It's not going to happen, as Trump fits perfectly fine in Politics and Society and it would be one of those examples of redundant boards.

[Mrbluntzy]

If it is a thread for putting some ideas and mixing some news, information for discussion, I believe moderator will not agree with your report and not lock those threads. Their solution can be a movement of those threads to Offtopic board than locking.

When you report it, you have done your part and it's left for the moderators to take their final decisions. Moderators act based on what they think is right and the judgement of other members can be quite different from there's.

[LTU_btc]

I don't think that such thing is going to work. Maybe a bit exaggerated example, but it would be something like to have one topic about Bitcoin instead of whole forum. Yeah, all these topics is somehow related with Trump, but subjects of these discussions is different, it would be not convienent to discuss all this stuff in single topic.
Russian invasion in Ukraine is not bad example, but still, one topic isn't enough. You can see that time from new topics appears about war in Ukraine.

[Sticky Bomb]

I love this piece, it would also really help if there's a provision for newer threads with similar features to be moved to the corresponding mega thread in the board, just like it can be moved to appropriate board. This would bring some level of sanity to the boards concerned and discourage users from creating those similar threads.

It would in turn encourage more creativity since ordinary or related topics would not be given a room to function as an independent thread, instead moved as a reply under the corresponding mega thread.

Mega thread are good since some replies are off-topic to the context of a current thread, but it's a good discussion concept, so mega threads could go a long way to accommodate every concept of a given topic of discussion.

[Mrbluntzy]

Mega thread are good since some replies are off-topic to the context of a current thread, but it's a good discussion concept, so mega threads could go a long way to accommodate every concept of a given topic of discussion.

Those threads were created by different users (OP) and therefore it's not possible to merge the different threads together.
Imagine that the moderators were to merge the threads together, who would be the OP of such intended mega thread when all the users were OP? That's why you should know that it won't be possible, or have you seen more than one OP in a thread?
The best solution is to lock a duplicate thread, if the OP of such duplicate thread would not lock it, it should be reported to moderators and they will lock it after analyzing the both thread and confirms that it exactly the same content.

[uchegod-21]

Mega thread are good since some replies are off-topic to the context of a current thread, but it's a good discussion concept, so mega threads could go a long way to accommodate every concept of a given topic of discussion.

Those threads were created by different users (OP) and therefore it's not possible to merge the different threads together.
Imagine that the moderators were to merge the threads together, who would be the OP of such intended mega thread when all the users were OP? That's why you should know that it won't be possible, or have you seen more than one OP in a thread?
The best solution is to lock a duplicate thread, if the OP of such duplicate thread would not lock it, it should be reported to moderators and they will lock it after analyzing the both thread and confirms that it exactly the same content.

But funny enough, those are not similar topics, rather they all have one major character who is Trump. Trump is the president of the United States of America and he does to many things with different countries, merging all the activities of Trump in one thread would not make sense. Unless you want a thread like "Trump and Bitcoin". In such a thread, everything Trump does or says about bitcoin would be discussed there. It will make more sense. We might also have "Trump and Gaza". And when we have that, we might likely have "Trump and Mexico", Trump and Elon lol . We will also end up having multiple Trump threads. Just play by the rules and report duplicate threads.

[Sandra_hakeem]

I've been seeing that shit for 10 years now, and I don't think it'll ever end.

Gotta love this place, eh?

you see, back then when I got registered, alot of things was really going on. Then boom, in a few weeks of reading my way through, I saw a couple of post that fits your description and -- Oh, and by then, I thought it was the normal way to discuss.  
So how did I realize in a short while that most post and comments are just repeatedly twisted, spun threads?!! enh, I just did.

I'm not going to support this one, with a few reasons below;
Trump and his whole political prospectives have really sunk into people's mind -- from twitter to Facebook, to the gram etc, I'm tired! That we have some political enthusiasts don't mean a MEGA thread in pol/soc should be created. You're just about to help lighten their tracks for more unnecessary threads (even outside your proposed mega thread) don't be too surprised.

[Doan9269]

I don't think that such thing is going to work. Maybe a bit exaggerated example, but it would be something like to have one topic about Bitcoin instead of whole forum. Yeah, all these topics is somehow related with Trump, but subjects of these discussions is different, it would be not convienent to discuss all this stuff in single topic.
Russian invasion in Ukraine is not bad example, but still, one topic isn't enough. You can see that time from new topics appears about war in Ukraine.

I understand your points and every aspects you're coming form and i think we are almost arriving at the same vein, my plight was under this, imagine a situation whereby you just visited a particular board and there you discovered that almost the threads were full of discussions about Trump only, i agree this is a politics and society board which is not bad having such, but when they are too much in this case, what should we call them, even other relevant threads may not be visible because of the overwhelming threads on Trump's related discussion, but as some have already suggested, we cant control everything at the same time, the best we can do for now is in reporting for any low quality one seen, or any duplicate thread to the moderator.