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March 26, 2025, 12:32:43 PM
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We live in society where those in need of social help or even money and help instead of that they get punished.

Also poor and rich medical care and safety not equal you can see in Beverly Hills area a lot cops and it's secure for example but you go few blocks away police even don't care you are on your own.

Now my message to younger generation is simple:
Don't be poor do what ever it takes, but don't be poor then there is also difference between small crimes and bigger crimes when you do smaller crimes you are big criminal so make sure you NEVER FALL INTO poor class!!

Forget about morals or anything like that just Make sure you have a lot money because in this WORLD your biggest
Crime is that you have no money, the goverment or society don't care how bad you are to get that money all the society care is only the fact that you have money !!

If you have opportunity scam or steal and If it's big enough do it because goverment and police will treat you different ways and more like with respect...so this world is for all the ponzi financial swindlers and other type of fraudsters scammers and those who don't have morals those people are highly respected by the society because nobody don't ask how good person you are or how much dignity or honour or how good heart you have, all what society cares is that If you have money and honestly don't matter how did you got it but If you don't have money its like you are worse then criminal !!

Talking about morals,more and more people need to forget about morals and values in order to keep up with society....for example girls on onlyfans....well If they would't do that and would be poor ones, then society will look them more bad, we live like society when people have competation with each other who can do more evil less morals less honestly just to survive, and when you talk about your values and honest personality you sound strange....first thing you need is just money and wealth to be considered as human, it don't matter If you even had money or wealth quite a lot before !! If you lost money or wealth....then it's over PEOPLE DON'T CARE WHAT YOU HAD BEFORE you still like rubbish in the society to be honest, off course morals and mindset in some communities are different but those are less and less and less ....we see more and more that society want you have money no matter who did you hurt to get that money or you screwd or how bad morals you have you better have money or people will look BAD OVER YOU and you bring bad attentions from others also goverment will look over you like criminal and useless eater, don't tell about your morals or values.....you better just show you got money
And If you fall and are bad situation then yes be ready to get treated more badly to become victim of bad people probably loan sharks and other bad actors.
So do what ever but don't be poor !!!!

Untfortunately this type of life model not suitable for good and kind hearted caring people with natural compassion and most of the times you see those people in the worse situations because they unlikely can bend their values and morals for exchange of money even in their worse situation.
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March 26, 2025, 12:53:49 PM
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Everyone is destined to be Rich be it poor or Rich, it's how we positioned ourselves that matters most because when you aren't that in a good state becoming rich could be hard for you.
For instance; to be Rich and be valuable you need to apply valuable things to your life by becoming more productive and creative with this when you are adding values people would get you hired and paid you for the service you render to them from then you are gradually becoming successful, but those who are too lazy waiting for the government to do everything for them would still be that poor because they are not productive.

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March 26, 2025, 01:12:38 PM
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Everyone is destined to be Rich be it poor or Rich, it's how we positioned ourselves that matters most because when you aren't that in a good state becoming rich could be hard for you.
For instance; to be Rich and be valuable you need to apply valuable things to your life by becoming more productive and creative with this when you are adding values people would get you hired and paid you for the service you render to them from then you are gradually becoming successful, but those who are too lazy waiting for the government to do everything for them would still be that poor because they are not productive.



You can be productive....but all this work and efforts for example high taxes you still just working for nothing.

But let's be honest we have a lot people who don't have any useful skills or knowledge....they want to work in goverment getting paid for basicly nothing, while you work and build up some business they just getting paid without efforts, that's one way, another way is that you been good hard working person.... something happens and your own goverment don't even care how much tax you been paid before and how hard working and good loyal citizen you been before.

If something to change we need to reset our social values 100% totally otherwise we fall further darkness, when even those who steal money don't have enough and no matter how much you have wealth it's never enough and once you lose it " you are nobody" !!

Okay u can be good today but If something happens then everbody will look at you different what you are capable society don't care the world want to see that you have always a lot more and more the more you have the better treatment you get from others.

It's about who has more and more
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March 26, 2025, 01:29:24 PM
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We live in society where those in need of social help or even money and help instead of that they get punished.

Also poor and rich medical care and safety not equal you can see in Beverly Hills area a lot cops and it's secure for example but you go few blocks away police even don't care you are on your own.
This pattern is found in all societies of the world, you just have to think of ways to be productive to grow wealth and get up to that social strata. I understand it shouldn't be this way but what can we do.

Now my message to younger generation is simple:
Don't be poor do what ever it takes, but don't be poor then there is also difference between small crimes and bigger crimes when you do smaller crimes you are big criminal so make sure you NEVER FALL INTO poor class!!
You're not in anyway promoting and justifying crime, or are you? Because from your utterance of doing whatever it takes to get rich by all means but don't get caught simply connotes that. There are 100+ ways to strive and get rich and committing crime isn't one of them.

If we all decides to commit crime in order to get rich how would the society be. Wouldn't it be worst of what it is now?

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March 26, 2025, 02:17:55 PM
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Everyone is destined to be Rich be it poor or Rich, it's how we positioned ourselves that matters most because when you aren't that in a good state becoming rich could be hard for you.
we are not destined to be rich or poor but we are born being rich or poor and it is out of our control already but once we grow up we now can control our lives and it is up to us if we will be rich or poor
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but those who are too lazy waiting for the government to do everything for them would still be that poor because they are not productive.
the government should help but it is still up to us to make sure that we get out of poverty we can’t depend completely on the government we also need to put in the work
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March 26, 2025, 03:00:27 PM
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Here I see Op mixing truth and evil into one container so that we are led to enter a gray area and even a life that has no morals. Telling to take advantage of bad opportunities just because this wild thought is considered right for him. Basically, the opinion of poverty is enough to be a serious discussion material so that everyone can find their own perspective, not giving way to a gray area between rights and falsehood so that it is unclear. No matter how small the crime is, it is still a crime and you cannot use it as an excuse to cleanse norms in order to defend yourself.

 
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March 26, 2025, 03:09:20 PM
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Everyone is destined to be Rich be it poor or Rich, it's how we positioned ourselves that matters most because when you aren't that in a good state becoming rich could be hard for you.
For instance; to be Rich and be valuable you need to apply valuable things to your life by becoming more productive and creative with this when you are adding values people would get you hired and paid you for the service you render to them from then you are gradually becoming successful, but those who are too lazy waiting for the government to do everything for them would still be that poor because they are not productive.

Of course everyone have the potential of becoming rich in the future that's depending on how hard working you're. Is just like as you said that everyone is destined to be rich, and of course there's no doubt about that. However,  Is obvious that most people will still find it very hard to believe this More especially those lazy type. maybe when they saw their mates becoming successful in Life at this point they start blaming God for that without knowing that is due to their laziness that made them to still remain in that level.

And if they don't try to work hard definitely they will still remain poor, For the fact that we are all destined to be rich does not give any guarantee that we should not be hardworking. of course our hard working will determine if we are going to be successful in life or not, I don't know why most people find it very hard to understand this.

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March 26, 2025, 03:39:47 PM
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Now my message to younger generation is simple:
Don't be poor do what ever it takes, but don't be poor then there is also difference between small crimes and bigger crimes when you do smaller crimes you are big criminal so make sure you NEVER FALL INTO poor class!!

Forget about morals or anything like that just Make sure you have a lot money because in this WORLD your biggest
Crime is that you have no money, the goverment or society don't care how bad you are to get that money all the society care is only the fact that you have money !!

If you have opportunity scam or steal and If it's big enough do it because goverment and police will treat you different ways and more like with respect...
Set your priorities, while money may be important, it is necessary to understand that it is not all that matters.

If you are blessed enough to have a family, good health, and a comfortable and peaceful life where you can afford all your bills, do not gamble it for a future that will keep you always under pressure. Some people have done it and discovered that it was not worth it.
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Forget about morals or anything like that just Make sure you have a lot money because in this WORLD your biggest
Crime is that you have no money, the goverment or society don't care how bad you are to get that money all the society care is only the fact that you have money !!

Well, i do agree into this line on what you have said on which money could be or almost everything on which when you do have the money then you would really be that respected.
When you are rich then you would be always on the right side of the story and being poor wouldnt really be having the rights and would totally be that judged on which this is how this cruel world we do have.
This is why i do fully agree into this one and this is where people will be that trying out to thrive on having that financial capability.

Somehow not all people will really be having that kind of mentality on which there are really that still wanting to achieve success or financial freedom just because they do really want to be with their family and not spending up their time almost on an office on which this is the usual case. When you are able to hit up that pinnacle of success then you will be able to attain up such condition. Some people do want money to have that more power and fame on which these are the common thing.

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Everyone is destined to be Rich be it poor or Rich, it's how we positioned ourselves that matters most because when you aren't that in a good state becoming rich could be hard for you.
For instance; to be Rich and be valuable you need to apply valuable things to your life by becoming more productive and creative with this when you are adding values people would get you hired and paid you for the service you render to them from then you are gradually becoming successful, but those who are too lazy waiting for the government to do everything for them would still be that poor because they are not productive.
I don't think that everybody is destined to be rich. My views are not in any means targeted that promoting laziness and downgrading harwork. But there are people with little or no opportunity to be wealthy. There are people who live in nations that are devastated by war. These set of persons are focusing on survival and not riches.

It is not a crime or laziness to expect the government to provide an enabling environment that will make people live good lives. Citizens of well governed countries have higher chances of becoming rich than others. This is why the US has the highest number of billionaires.

Some people work very hard but the system keeps impoverishing them and many of them don't have the means of moving out of these retrogressive countries.   

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I would still disagree. There might be different morals on how to earn money and how not to. Like someone would be okay to use unethical practices and someone would go even further to use illegal tools if only it won't hurt other humans and someone willing to hurt anyone for money. There is a moral limit for everyone.
Earning and accumulating a lot of money or being a millionaire is not everything in life and you don't need to be a millionaire to led a comfortable life. There's a limit how much you could eat and drink. Overdoing it would affect your health.

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If you are born being poor, that’s not your fault. But if you end up still poor and die poor, that’s already your fault. For others, it could be a crime, but for me it’s never a crime but one should do something to prevent ending up being poor.

It’s all about having that rich mentality. Manifest to yourself that you will definitely end up being rich, that’s why you have to do everything, giving your best and  maximizing out whatever you can give, that will help you to acquire wealth and never end up poor and hopeless.

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Forget about morals or anything like that just Make sure you have a lot money because in this WORLD your biggest
Crime is that you have no money, the goverment or society don't care how bad you are to get that money all the society care is only the fact that you have money !!
If you have opportunity scam or steal and If it's big enough do it because goverment and police will treat you different ways and more like with respect.
I don't and will never agree that being poor is a crime; no one born out of poverty should be considered a criminal because you cannot find this in any logic or in any religious teaching that you are a criminal if you are born a poor person; there are factors why people are poor, and one of the factors is because of the government, which failed to give its people ample opportunity to give them better lives.
No one should encourage people to do a crime against another because it encourages chaos in the society; the community should encourage cooperation and harmonious living.
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Everyone is destined to be Rich be it poor or Rich, it's how we positioned ourselves that matters most because when you aren't that in a good state becoming rich could be hard for you.
For instance; to be Rich and be valuable you need to apply valuable things to your life by becoming more productive and creative with this when you are adding values people would get you hired and paid you for the service you render to them from then you are gradually becoming successful, but those who are too lazy waiting for the government to do everything for them would still be that poor because they are not productive.

what you said is true, from the beginning God has been very fair to humans, only what differentiates us until the end is how we work hard for ourselves, it is impossible for poor people to become rich when all they do every day is sleep at home, those who are rich have implemented a combination of hard work, smart work and perseverance.

However, parents often play a big role in a child's success. Parents who are used to restricting their children will have children who have difficulty growing. Therefore, it is highly recommended for those who want to be rich to immediately explore the outside world because there are many opportunities out there. Don't just stay at home.

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Do you think people become or stay poor by choice? You say "Do whatever it takes but don't be poor" as if it's in a person's hand to choose what they want to be but that's not always the case. Most people are poor because they've had such backgrounds, they didn't have access to good or even proper education, they never had the resources to try and do something for themselves, and after all these things, you can't expect someone to get out of poverty by just trying because we all try to get rid of our problems but it's not always that easy.

It's true that the world isn't always fair with those who are from over classes, and they would never have the same facilities that the upper classes have, but there is nothing much a person from a lower class can do about that unless the world gets changed and those in power realize that this negligence isn't good and it should be finished but I doubt that will ever happen.

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Everyone is destined to be Rich be it poor or Rich, it's how we positioned ourselves that matters most because when you aren't that in a good state becoming rich could be hard for you.
For instance; to be Rich and be valuable you need to apply valuable things to your life by becoming more productive and creative with this when you are adding values people would get you hired and paid you for the service you render to them from then you are gradually becoming successful, but those who are too lazy waiting for the government to do everything for them would still be that poor because they are not productive.



You can be productive....but all this work and efforts for example high taxes you still just working for nothing.

But let's be honest we have a lot people who don't have any useful skills or knowledge....they want to work in goverment getting paid for basicly nothing, while you work and build up some business they just getting paid without efforts, that's one way, another way is that you been good hard working person
Are you indirectly or directly telling me that there are no successful people around there who were a skilled worker and finally got their own businesses? If you must know in today's world the people who that Rich are people who are (were) independent of their own without having to look after government and what their government could do for them, and let say you are skilled worker or a business owner and after paying your taxes you won't be left anything again is that what you mean?

Everyone is destined to be Rich be it poor or Rich, it's how we positioned ourselves that matters most because when you aren't that in a good state becoming rich could be hard for you.
we are not destined to be rich or poor but we are born being rich or poor and it is out of our control already but once we grow up we now can control our lives and it is up to us if we will be rich or poor
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but those who are too lazy waiting for the government to do everything for them would still be that poor because they are not productive.
the government should help but it is still up to us to make sure that we get out of poverty we can’t depend completely on the government we also need to put in the work
Good we are born being Rich for that to manifest in us we need to stir it up and makes it works quickly.. For instance; you were given a tea cup and everything is added in the teacup what you need to do is just to add water and take spoon and stir it to mixed up every ingredient that has been added to the cup. This is how life is, everything is right before you but the ability for you to make use of those things determines whom we are in real life.

Everyone is destined to be Rich be it poor or Rich, it's how we positioned ourselves that matters most because when you aren't that in a good state becoming rich could be hard for you.
For instance; to be Rich and be valuable you need to apply valuable things to your life by becoming more productive and creative with this when you are adding values people would get you hired and paid you for the service you render to them from then you are gradually becoming successful, but those who are too lazy waiting for the government to do everything for them would still be that poor because they are not productive.
I don't think that everybody is destined to be rich. My views are not in any means targeted that promoting laziness and downgrading harwork. But there are people with little or no opportunity to be wealthy. There are people who live in nations that are devastated by war. These set of persons are focusing on survival and not riches.

It is not a crime or laziness to expect the government to provide an enabling environment that will make people live good lives. Citizens of well governed countries have higher chances of becoming rich than others. This is why the US has the highest number of billionaires.

Some people work very hard but the system keeps impoverishing them and many of them don't have the means of moving out of these retrogressive countries.   

Our maker do not create us to be poor or to come face hardship in the world, it's due to human nature that gives rise to somethings they are currently facing right away. But again, your position, state of mind, and where you found yourselves also attributes to you becoming rich or poor, and you can't expect to be rich and found yourself inside the forest without any proper thing you are doing over, though there could be something to make you rich over there if you discovers that thing on time.
I could be wrong or right, but we must know that no one is created to be poor and everyone is created to be live a normal live without being subjected to any hardship.


Everyone is destined to be Rich be it poor or Rich, it's how we positioned ourselves that matters most because when you aren't that in a good state becoming rich could be hard for you.
For instance; to be Rich and be valuable you need to apply valuable things to your life by becoming more productive and creative with this when you are adding values people would get you hired and paid you for the service you render to them from then you are gradually becoming successful, but those who are too lazy waiting for the government to do everything for them would still be that poor because they are not productive.

what you said is true, from the beginning God has been very fair to humans, only what differentiates us until the end is how we work hard for ourselves, it is impossible for poor people to become rich when all they do every day is sleep at home, those who are rich have implemented a combination of hard work, smart work and perseverance.
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Of course that is what happening currently and God didn't create anyone to be poor, but how we handle out things and work for ourselves depends on whether that person would be poor or rich, and those who works harder are that next to becoming greatness. Anyone who sleeps around can never be that wealthy because all they does is to eat and sleep without becoming productive to themselves.

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March 27, 2025, 10:09:38 AM
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Now my message to younger generation is simple:
Don't be poor do what ever it takes, but don't be poor then there is also difference between small crimes and bigger crimes when you do smaller crimes you are big criminal so make sure you NEVER FALL INTO poor class!!


I understand you are trying to point at the societies where the poor are not treated equally as human and no one would care about you if you are poor. The medial all not carry your news when things happens to you. It all just seem like the poor are minorities regardless of the services they could offer to the society.
But then, I can categorically tell you that no one has ever made poverty an option for them but believe it that everyone can not be rich because as all fingers are not equal and our faces and mentality differs in different ventures, so our rewards and worths would differ.
One thing I have come to observe as advantage of being poor over riches is sleepless nights and insecurities in the society that is why they moves by security agencies.
It does not also seem right for someone to go extra mile just for money without undermining with repercussion it may be if not now maybe in the future.
So in anyways we are chasing the riches, we should keep clean and not dirts so that we don't lay traumatic predicaments for ourselves.

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March 27, 2025, 10:15:16 AM
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Thank you for the spicy..
Of course that is what happening currently and God didn't create anyone to be poor, but how we handle out things and work for ourselves depends on whether that person would be poor or rich, and those who works harder are that next to becoming greatness. Anyone who sleeps around can never be that wealthy because all they does is to eat and sleep without becoming productive to themselves.

You are right somebody has to work to attain it because waiting for manifestation of God richness in somebody's life without any labour may turn to an imaginary manifestation because in life somebody cannot cheat nature, you only have a privilege of thinking to have escaped the labouring part of the life when the labour has already been done for you through the parents, that's the only when someone can say finance is not there problems because this is why there are children who spend as if everything was on there pam before they were born, so I agree with you because is how we work will tell us what to expect in the future.

 
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Forget about morals or anything like that just Make sure you have a lot money because in this WORLD your biggest
Crime is that you have no money, the goverment or society don't care how bad you are to get that money all the society care is only the fact that you have money !!

If you have opportunity scam or steal and If it's big enough do it because goverment and police will treat you different ways and more like with respect...so this world is for all the ponzi financial swindlers and other type of fraudsters scammers and those who don't have morals those people are highly respected by the society because nobody don't ask how good person you are or how much dignity or honour or how good heart you have, all what society cares is that If you have money and honestly don't matter how did you got it but If you don't have money its like you are worse then criminal !!

Since it is clear that you have a mindset that you should do whatever it takes to become rich, then I must remind you that there are consequences to becoming rich through crime, one way or another it will rob you off the happiness that you seek. Crime doesn't pay, it's either that the law will catch up with you and you will shamefully loose everything and go to jail or 'karma' will catch up with you, it always does. May I also remind you that you don't have to be super rich to be happy and be respected, people actually uphold individuals with intergrity and good values. It might also shock you to know that it is not everybody that got rich through scams and other dubious means, there are many rich people that got to where they are through hard work. Poverty is not good, people should work and think smart to come out of it, being born poor doesn't mean that you should remain poor, work hard and smart, think outside the box to escape poverty, not going into crime.

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March 27, 2025, 10:50:49 AM
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Thank you for the spicy..
Of course that is what happening currently and God didn't create anyone to be poor, but how we handle out things and work for ourselves depends on whether that person would be poor or rich, and those who works harder are that next to becoming greatness. Anyone who sleeps around can never be that wealthy because all they does is to eat and sleep without becoming productive to themselves.

You are right somebody has to work to attain it because waiting for manifestation of God richness in somebody's life without any labour may turn to an imaginary manifestation because in life somebody cannot cheat nature, you only have a privilege of thinking to have escaped the labouring part of the life when the labour has already been done for you through the parents, that's the only when someone can say finance is not there problems because this is why there are children who spend as if everything was on there pam before they were born, so I agree with you because is how we work will tell us what to expect in the future.
Totally useless if you are really that having those kind of manifestations but ending up on having no hard work or any actions being done on which you would really be that still remaining on what you are really that currently dealing on with. Yes, positivity will really be having that kind of manifestation but without work or actions then everything would really be that useless. This is why its really that important that you do really know on what you should gonna do and on what you shouldn't. There are tons of ways of methods when you do have plans on having that progressive life in terms of finances. It is really just that people are really that too scared to take up some risks and they are really that hesitating on what they are really that indeed doing. This is why people will really be having those kind of regrets in the end at the time that they will be having that kind of seeing those missed opportunities on which these will really be that creating that kind of frustration.
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