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April 03, 2025, 04:32:46 AM
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things to note about gold in the next 40 years
within 20 years the mars colony and moon base plans will be active. meaning shipments of 100tonne refined gold could be returning to earth any time after that. causing golds market to react

this is where bitcoin which has a 21m cap and already at the 19.84m of the 21m currently, which offers better future potential of the demand and market price of deflation for inheritance plans

long term economists also dont see gold going the way of continual new ATH to multiply the price multiple times in the long term

so some people usually planning on the long term hoard of gold for inheritance to their offspring, are divesting away from gold now, knowing its not going to be a good inheritance asset for their offspring in the future. as the reserve/supply limits will change long term where the scarcity aspect of gold gets less scarce
even central banks are rethinking their 20-50year reserve strategies away from gold

According to reports, although humans have discovered gold mines in Antarctica or under the ocean, so far we do not seem to have enough technology to mine them, let alone mine gold from other planets and bring it back to Earth. Even if that happens and increases the supply of gold but at a higher cost of mining, it does not make gold any less valuable. Like what is happening, every year we add 2,500-3,000 tons of gold to the supply but the price still tends to increase, not decrease as many people think.
Not to mention, gold is applied and used in almost every industry in the world, meaning the demand for gold is not limited to investment assets. So increasing the supply of gold will only make gold bigger and more attractive, not less attractive.

I don't know how far bitcoin can go and what achievements it will achieve next, but it's still too early to say that bitcoin will replace gold. But the future of gold, it is definitely still the top choice when it comes to safe haven or store of value.

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April 03, 2025, 07:47:37 AM
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I was watching a video where they told that now most countries are depositing gold as reserves instead of buying US dollar deposits. Does this mean that price of gold will be uncontrollable in coming years ? Is it going to affect the buying behavior related to gold for common people ?
It's basically what they've been doing every time there's something like tariff, or any geopolitical conflict and economical conflict arise.
Because the market cap of gold is so huge then can easily buy or sell their gold holdings, as well as the fact that gold is being branded as hedge against inflation, does help a lot in making gold grow so much this decade.
The fact that this will also cause another gold rush and countries are digging to explore gold mine, I think eventually the supply will make up for the demand and price will stabilize in the future.

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April 03, 2025, 09:53:54 AM
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Gold is an investment where most investors want to preserve their wealth in gold during times of inflation. Gold is a stable investment, although it gives low returns in the long run, it will keep your wealth safer than most.
But if you can afford to hold your wealth for the next 10-12 years (which will be completely uninterrupted), then that investor can definitely invest in Bitcoin. Bitcoin is going to leave gold far behind in the next few years, which is very likely.
Bitcoin will definitely go to a much bigger level in the future. Therefore, instead of making decisions based only on the current volatile market situation, the best strategy is to continue investing with a long-term view, believing in the real potential of Bitcoin.
Gold is indeed a choice for some investors because its durability in storing value makes gold a good choice. In the past and now gold is still quite popular and I see many people who store gold as an investment step taken. After bitcoin became as strong as it is now, many people started to switch even though some people still store gold. Bitcoin can give much faster returns even though it is quite speculative and people realize almost many similarities in storing value.

Long term is the best choice in investing because bitcoin always has a four-year cycle that can provide much more maximum profits. As long as people can avoid panicking about market movements, holding bitcoin is also a much better choice in the future.

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April 03, 2025, 02:32:55 PM
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I was watching a video where they told that now most countries are depositing gold as reserves instead of buying US dollar deposits. Does this mean that price of gold will be uncontrollable in coming years ? Is it going to affect the buying behavior related to gold for common people ?
A gold reserve has been one of the oldest forms of a reserve by many countries much longer before now, it can been considered as one of the oldest and earliest forms of a reserve adopted by most countries in much more earlier years before now. Gold ahs got this valuability that makes it a store of values as its price over time is in continuous appreciation and that show and makes it a good store of values and the the acceptability that comes with it is another reason it becomes something almost every country wants to have a reserve with it. somehow you can consider Gold a s a universal currency in that its generally acceptable in almost anywhere  you go in the world, people are always almost ready to accept gold as a good exchange for value either monetarily or for services and so it makes its valuability one that remains attractive and gives any country a reason to have it in their reserve and definitely the more countries that gets it to their reserve, the more the price will increase and the behavioral pattern of purchase will be affected too.

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April 03, 2025, 08:46:53 PM
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In the past and now gold is still quite popular and I see many people who store gold as an investment step taken. After bitcoin became as strong as it is now, many people started to switch even though some people still store gold. Bitcoin can give much faster returns even though it is quite speculative and people realize almost many similarities in storing value.
In the past, gold is more popular because there are still less competitions but now, we already have Bitcoin and others. Although people are now more inclined into investing nowadays. I'm sure Bitcoin and cryptos has a great contribution to that. I already know gold before but I'm not really into it but ever since I'm into Bitcoin, it allows me to be mature about investing and considering other options. One of that of course is gold.

Long term is the best choice in investing because bitcoin always has a four-year cycle that can provide much more maximum profits.
If you have a patience yeah but for those who lacks on it, they can also say that short-term is the best. They still can participate on that 4-yr cycle you said there by timing their moves and join only when it is now about to start or finish.
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April 03, 2025, 10:02:27 PM
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If there is a global recession or other economic instability gold can be seen as a safe haven which can cause the price of gold to rise. Fiat currencies such as the US dollar are completely dependent on government decisions and central bank policies. So if a country's government prints excess currency or creates high inflation the value of that country's currency can decline. This is why some countries are choosing gold as their reserve because the value of gold is historically more stable and it is a valuable asset that is largely protected from the effects of inflation or currency depreciation.
This is also a good and economical source because it is also quite profitable and people earn a lot of money from it. If we look at gold, putting other things aside, it has also gone up quite a bit at the moment, which costs a lot of money to buy and with it, a lot of money can be earned for a long time.Gold is often seen as a tool to protect against inflation Rising inflation can undermine the value of cash and fix interest rate assets like treasury bonds. Holding gold protects against such capital loss in the face of rising inflation because the price of gold tends to rise as the real values of these other assets fall.This is a combination of the two. If these go up and down, gold also goes up and down, but its marketing does not show such a drop. However, if there is a sufficient amount of gold, it can yield a lot of profit.











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April 04, 2025, 12:00:10 PM
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If we look at the future, gold reserves will likely continue to play an important role in the global economy. It's natural to depend on gold, as it's been around for much longer than any current fiat currency. Not to mention that Trump Administration's activities do not exactly invoke a sense of reliability and trust.

Bitcoin is more profitable, but also way more volatile. The USD is fiat, so it loses value on a yearly basis, and people can be legitimately concerned that it will lose much more value than usual.

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April 04, 2025, 01:08:27 PM
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In the past, gold is more popular because there are still less competitions but now, we already have Bitcoin and others. Although people are now more inclined into investing nowadays. I'm sure Bitcoin and cryptos has a great contribution to that. I already know gold before but I'm not really into it but ever since I'm into Bitcoin, it allows me to be mature about investing and considering other options. One of that of course is gold.
Gold has a much larger capitalization compared to bitcoin so gold is still the choice of many people in making investments, it's just that the development of the times has begun to show something different and the presence of bitcoin provides an opportunity for many people to achieve much more maximum profits. Most people like gold even though the returns are not as good as bitcoin, gold is much more stable so for people who don't dare to take risks will consider gold as the investment step of choice.

If you have a patience yeah but for those who lacks on it, they can also say that short-term is the best. They still can participate on that 4-yr cycle you said there by timing their moves and join only when it is now about to start or finish.
Long term or short term can be adjusted according to the capital capacity owned to generate profits, but long term is much better because it will get a much greater return. The four-year cycle is something to look forward to because it shows the strength of the return from the investment process being undertaken.

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April 04, 2025, 01:09:03 PM
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People's interest in gold is not new. Due to various negative comments made about the dollar in recent times, people have become more focused on gold. They think that if the dollar loses its value, they can face major losses. Moreover, the lack of certainty about it is also a big reason. When people lose confidence in something, they prefer to invest in something where the profit is low but there is no possibility of loss. Even though gold cannot give big returns in the long term, people's confidence in gold is increasing and even the governments of some countries are planning to reserve gold. Due to which the price of gold is increasing.

Who consider gold as a source of long-term investment can definitely benefit several times more than gold if they hold Bitcoin instead of investing in gold. People have not yet gained complete confidence in digital assets. People are gradually increasing their investment in Bitcoin. Meanwhile, the global demand for Bitcoin has increased significantly and will continue to do so in the future.

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It is not surprising that Gold dominates. States hedge instead of panicking when confidence in fiat money begins to show cracks (hello inflation, debt ceilings, political unrest). Gold is a silent vote against the dollar system, just like Bitcoin. Central banks are attaining their independence. Price volatility is a side effect, not the core objective. Will it be out of control? Only if you believe control was ever real. There is a finite amount of gold, it is difficult to extract, and it does not scale like digital assets. Indeed, prices will go crazy if demand becomes systemic, particularly when retail joins late for FOMO or fear-driven reasons. But for the ordinary person? Gold was never meant to be casually consumed. That's a store, not a way of life. You are already late to the game if your purchase decisions rely just on price

 
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I was watching a video where they told that now most countries are depositing gold as reserves instead of buying US dollar deposits. Does this mean that price of gold will be uncontrollable in coming years ? Is it going to affect the buying behavior related to gold for common people ?

"Uncontrollable"? What do you mean? If governments keep accumulating Gold, prices will rise all the way to the moon (according to the rules of supply and demand). For years, Gold has been trusted as the ideal store of value for emergency situations or as a means to build generational wealth. Even with Bitcoin in play, Gold is still relevant. At some point, I believe the "yellow metal" will become history. Especially when BTC is touted as its successor. We're in the 21st century, so we should be living in the "intangible era". Tangible (physical) items would not be as valuable as they used to be in the past. Gold will eventually become a metal solely used for industrial purposes, while BTC will become the next store of value.

Right now, Gold is enjoying new highs because of Trump's tariffs. The trade war between the US and other countries will extend the period of uncertainty, which means new ATHs for Gold in the short term. I'd buy and "hodl" both Gold and Bitcoin if I were you. It won't be long before inflation spirals out of control. Only smart people will win. The question is: Are you smart enough to invest? Or are you willing to wait until "all hell breaks loose"?

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At some point, I believe the "yellow metal" will become history. Especially when BTC is touted as its successor. We're in the 21st century, so we should be living in the "intangible era". Tangible (physical) items would not be as valuable as they used to be in the past. Gold will eventually become a metal solely used for industrial purposes, while BTC will become the next store of value.


But the question is when will gold become history, when will that happen, 10 years or 100 years from now? I have been hearing bitcoin investors talk about bitcoin replacing gold for years. But what is happening is that gold continues to dominate, and is the top choice of governments and major investors regardless of the global economic situation.
Although bitcoin has also grown significantly over the past year, it is showing signs of weakness and dumping due to the uncertain economic situation. How can an asset being dumped due to inflation, tariffs...economic instability become a store of value and replace gold?
I am also a bitcoin investor, to be honest, I doubt that bitcoin can replace gold in the next few decades.


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At some point, I believe the "yellow metal" will become history. Especially when BTC is touted as its successor. We're in the 21st century, so we should be living in the "intangible era". Tangible (physical) items would not be as valuable as they used to be in the past. Gold will eventually become a metal solely used for industrial purposes, while BTC will become the next store of value.


But the question is when will gold become history, when will that happen, 10 years or 100 years from now? I have been hearing bitcoin investors talk about bitcoin replacing gold for years. But what is happening is that gold continues to dominate, and is the top choice of governments and major investors regardless of the global economic situation.
Although bitcoin has also grown significantly over the past year, it is showing signs of weakness and dumping due to the uncertain economic situation. How can an asset being dumped due to inflation, tariffs...economic instability become a store of value and replace gold?
I am also a bitcoin investor, to be honest, I doubt that bitcoin can replace gold in the next few decades.


I don't think it will happen. Trump may want BTC to be the first and the digital Gold in our time. But its not up to him to declare this for the rest of the world. US may move to digital Gold but the East may not.

The physical Gold will still be what we need the most in reevaluating the currencies we have. Which there are talks about Trump going to revalue Gold for the USD. If back then gold was like $30+ per ounce, it may be more this time. Because there is the need to maintain the USD as the currency reserve and if this doesn't happen, the rest of the world will reevaluate gold without US.






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But the question is when will gold become history, when will that happen, 10 years or 100 years from now? I have been hearing bitcoin investors talk about bitcoin replacing gold for years. But what is happening is that gold continues to dominate, and is the top choice of governments and major investors regardless of the global economic situation.
Although bitcoin has also grown significantly over the past year, it is showing signs of weakness and dumping due to the uncertain economic situation. How can an asset being dumped due to inflation, tariffs...economic instability become a store of value and replace gold?
I am also a bitcoin investor, to be honest, I doubt that bitcoin can replace gold in the next few decades.


It is very difficult to predict this because the ups and downs of the economy that are happening now are difficult to predict, whether gold can replace bitcoin in the future, of course that is a difficult question to answer but looking at the current value of bitcoin does not rule out the possibility that in the future it can replace gold because its value is high even though there is a decline but very little is considered not worrying.
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But the question is when will gold become history, when will that happen, 10 years or 100 years from now? I have been hearing bitcoin investors talk about bitcoin replacing gold for years. But what is happening is that gold continues to dominate, and is the top choice of governments and major investors regardless of the global economic situation.
Although bitcoin has also grown significantly over the past year, it is showing signs of weakness and dumping due to the uncertain economic situation. How can an asset being dumped due to inflation, tariffs...economic instability become a store of value and replace gold?
I am also a bitcoin investor, to be honest, I doubt that bitcoin can replace gold in the next few decades.


It is very difficult to predict this because the ups and downs of the economy that are happening now are difficult to predict, whether gold can replace bitcoin in the future, of course that is a difficult question to answer but looking at the current value of bitcoin does not rule out the possibility that in the future it can replace gold because its value is high even though there is a decline but very little is considered not worrying.

I don't think the debate about whether gold will be ever replaced by Bitcoin is relevant. They are different assets and have very different characteristics, which we've discussed about thousands of times before in these pages.

As we're talking about short term fluctuations in price in this thread (inflation, tariffs, economic instability of the last months), I would like to remind you of one of the biggest distinctions between both assets: chances of gold doubling it's price in the next months is practically zero, while that's not what many people think about Bitcoin. And the same would happen the other way around: it would be a really exceptional event if gold lost 50% of his value in a few months, while we've seen it happening to Bitcoin plenty of times.

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As we're talking about short term fluctuations in price in this thread (inflation, tariffs, economic instability of the last months), I would like to remind you of one of the biggest distinctions between both assets: chances of gold doubling it's price in the next months is practically zero, while that's not what many people think about Bitcoin. And the same would happen the other way around: it would be a really exceptional event if gold lost 50% of his value in a few months, while we've seen it happening to Bitcoin plenty of times.

Gold's market capitalization has surpassed $20 trillion and is more than 10 times the market capitalization of bitcoin, so expecting the price of gold to double from now on is delusional. But the scenario of gold losing 50% of its value in a few months is also an illusion. That is impossible and has never happened in the past. This could happen with bitcoin but not with gold because gold is a safe haven, not a speculative asset like bitcoin.


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April 05, 2025, 11:05:10 AM
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Holding gold as a reserve is not a new thing; it's something that has always been happening over the years, especially now that many are looking for ways to limit their dependence on the United States dollar, a fiat currency which is being devalued every time it is not supposed to be held as a reserve. Its purchase value is dying off over time. Gold has been used as a reserve for decades now; even the US government are among the top holders.
Gold has remained a valuable asset from different ages and generations, it still holds it's value till today so I am not surprised that countries will prefer it as their reserves over the US dollar. Dollar is an American currency and property, I believe that many countries would like to have a reserve that it's worth is valued worldwide and no country can have a claim that it is their legal tender. This is where I see a similarity between gold and Bitcoin, nobody or country can claim that gold originated from them and Bitcoin is decentralized. I am seeing Bitcoin being held by many countries as their reserves in the future, the way gold is being sought after today as a reserve.

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April 05, 2025, 11:11:56 AM
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I was watching a video where they told that now most countries are depositing gold as reserves instead of buying US dollar deposits. Does this mean that price of gold will be uncontrollable in coming years ? Is it going to affect the buying behavior related to gold for common people ?

There is nothing any country will want to use for foreign reserve that US don't have, those guys are smart and far ahead of everyone. The only thing I'm not sure other countries might have that US don't have is Bitcoin. For example, it's estimated that North Korea is soon is sponsoring her hackers to steal Bitcoin and other valuable coins in the crypto market and so far, the amount of Bitcoin stolen by Korea exceed holdings of there countries that at holding Bitcoin.

Gold central market is controlled by the US and it will continue to be like that because they have what it is and what it takes to control it, if there are other people that hold into more reserve of Gold than the US and middle east, then they don't know about it and probably has never reveal anything about the gold, it might just be a speculation and not true because if any country has more resources reserve of Gold in her country, the economy is expected to do better.

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April 05, 2025, 03:47:58 PM
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Gold price of today is different from the gold price of last five year which is the believe of gold investors that the price will turn to uncontrollable to create opportunity that will make gold investors to deposit more funds in gold than US dollar,  Don't believe on those social media rumors OP, that gold will be uncontrollable in the future, if you don't know you better know it now, that people have started reducing the amount of deposits they are depositing in gold, because they have found out that bitcoin investment is profitable than gold these days.

I agree that Bitcoin investments is a more profitable than Gold and people have recently withdrawn their interest from Gold because the return on Bitcoin investment is relatively higher than that of Gold.
However,since Bitcoin has features that's superior to Gold, that's why they'll see Gold as a commodity while Bitcoin remains a digital currency.So far,Bitcoin has won and gained extreme moderation and Investors from all over the world and there's so much to rely on Bitcoin for.

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April 05, 2025, 04:08:52 PM
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It is very difficult to predict this because the ups and downs of the economy that are happening now are difficult to predict, whether gold can replace bitcoin in the future, of course that is a difficult question to answer but looking at the current value of bitcoin does not rule out the possibility that in the future it can replace gold because its value is high even though there is a decline but very little is considered not worrying.
In today's era, Gold has met a fairly equal opponent, namely Bitcoin because gold is an asset that is much older than Bitcoin if we look at its discovery. But because Bitcoin has advantages through its supply and through the sophisticated technology that supports it, of course it does not rule out the possibility that Bitcoin will replace gold in any case in the future. Moreover, in this digital era, gold has also moved in this sector by no longer relying solely on its physical form, because objects like gold will be very heavy if carried in such large quantities.

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