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March 31, 2025, 02:02:05 PM
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Only scam casinos will operate without license. Its either they are involved in illegal activities but there are consequences that may come from the regional government of where the casino is located or the jurisdiction.

Honestly, i never knew Bitvest operates without license i will do my own findings now.

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March 31, 2025, 02:03:41 PM
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However, most casinos that do not have a license, their games are mostly original, maybe for casinos this kind of game does not need a license.

Unlike casinos that have many games and one of them is from another provider.
Such as from multiple slot providers
Sportsbook provider.
I think if the casino wants to add these games then they need a license.



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March 31, 2025, 03:03:31 PM
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Only scam casinos will operate without license. Its either they are involved in illegal activities but there are consequences that may come from the regional government of where the casino is located or the jurisdiction.

Honestly, i never knew Bitvest operates without license i will do my own findings now.
Why do you make such conclusions don't you know that we have decentralized casinos also which give gamblers 100% privacy using cryptocurrency like Bitcoin as payments, you should know better than just calling all no-license casinos scams or operating on scams illegal activities, I think that you need to read better to widen your knowledge about on the various classes of casinos that we have around.

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March 31, 2025, 03:14:25 PM
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Just-dice.com, Bitvest.io, bustadice.com, bustabit.com, swcpoker.club

Many of these sites are very old and have been running for years without stop. Generally they have an ok reputation. But what they have in common is that none of these sites runs under a gambling license. Do you know more such sites?
I never knew that these casinos had no license, and that casinos could actually operate that way, it is strange to me, but I think that even though these casinos have not scammed anyone yet, and are still maintaining a good reputation in the casino industry that they can even be mentioned, it is affecting their business in some way, even  though they may not mind.
There are customers who should play on their casino, but never will because they have no license, and these customers will never trust a casino without one. Sometimes this difficulty in trusting is because of a personal bad experience, or a story from another person.
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March 31, 2025, 03:32:56 PM
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I didn’t know those casinos you mentioned had no licenses. I don’t even get why they don’t have it; it will add to their outlook of the casino and show that they are doing the correct operations and protocols when operating a casino.
You see, just like you said, if you weren't told they had no license, you wouldn't even notice that by yourself. That's exactly how they gain popularity and no one gives a heck what's going on at all.
But again, the above casinos are doing very well and I haven't heard any major rug pull, although there's a little I know overall about them.
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This made it look like they were unreputable because they had no license. To me, this matters.
were? Most of those casinos are still running?
Of course it matters to everyone; once I realize that there's no sort of authority above you, then that's it. Plus, they're getting targeted by the authorities, and in a blink of an eye, their websites can get seized and that's on you the gambler!

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March 31, 2025, 03:50:36 PM
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I think it's a good opportunity to make more of a direct question to try and find out which GOOD casinos actually have been operating under no licensing scheme at all. Of course there are hundreds if not thousands of casinos that run online without a real license

To an extend, there had been existing a no license casinos which had maintain good reputation even more convinced to most licensed casinos and why they may not have been acquired licensed could be cases of governments regulations which even the governments that's to regulate the casinos under license issued could be biased with the players which if the regulatory terms of the casinos is adhered may be inconvenient to the players regarded that the governments could be so selfish that they don't care about the people while the casino may by being transparent with players.
The essesne of license casinos is justro convince the players that the governments is aware of the casinos they plays on which doesn't automatically make it reliable.

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March 31, 2025, 04:51:01 PM
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I think it's a good opportunity to make more of a direct question to try and find out which GOOD casinos actually have been operating under no licensing scheme at all. Of course there are hundreds if not thousands of casinos that run online without a real license

To an extend, there had been existing a no license casinos which had maintain good reputation even more convinced to most licensed casinos and why they may not have been acquired licensed could be cases of governments regulations which even the governments that's to regulate the casinos under license issued could be biased with the players which if the regulatory terms of the casinos is adhered may be inconvenient to the players regarded that the governments could be so selfish that they don't care about the people while the casino may by being transparent with players.
The essesne of license casinos is justro convince the players that the governments is aware of the casinos they plays on which doesn't automatically make it reliable.
If not until nowadays that authorities have put more regulations and laws against gambling platforms, in the past any casino could just operate without any interference from the authorities as long as there were no criminal charges against them, and even with criminal charges, it is hard to even convicted for those crimes, so it was hard to handle their operations, that is why government begins a climb down on casinos now especially the unlicensed ones, in some cases we have successful none license casinos but we shouldn't rely on them so much since the site can be taken down by the authority at any time.

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TBH with License or No Licese.

Do the Curacao, the one who are created the License have some history to taken some action to the casino are using their license? I mean in vegas we have Gambling Board, these organization are really work (helping not just the casino but user it self).

However, I never see Curacao taken action to some casino or help the user.
This is an honest, sad truth about the Curacao master license holder that provides a gambling license to online casinos, and this is also why some gamblers see a casino with a Curacao license as a no-go platform. An example is the casino that starts with 1x, which has scammed a lot of people and is still operating like nothing happened.
Having said that, license or not. I believe the casino that will scam its users will still scam its users, and it is better to always do self-research.

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Off the top of my head I could name a few already.

Just-dice.com, Bitvest.io, bustadice.com, bustabit.com, swcpoker.club

Many of these sites are very old and have been running for years without stop. Generally they have an ok reputation. But what they have in common is that none of these sites runs under a gambling license. Do you know more such sites?

You made some points here, there are many gambling platforms operating without license and i do emphasize on the fact that having a license doesn't call a gambling platform a reputable type, we may have to go far beyond all these in knowing what they have and who are the ones under their operations before drawing for a conclusion, also, when its about gambling, we can see from the examples you have set that its not only about being licensed, but the consistencies in gambling over time is also important in choosing in-between.

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Being inspired by a discussion that erupted after I posted asking "What's even the point of licenses anymore?"

I think it's a good opportunity to make more of a direct question to try and find out which GOOD casinos actually have been operating under no licensing scheme at all. Of course there are hundreds if not thousands of casinos that run online without a real license, or pretending to have one that is actually fake, only to scam people. But I'm making this thread to ask about casinos that are not known to be out there with the intention of scamming everybody.

Off the top of my head I could name a few already.

Just-dice.com, Bitvest.io, bustadice.com, bustabit.com, swcpoker.club

Many of these sites are very old and have been running for years without stop. Generally they have an ok reputation. But what they have in common is that none of these sites runs under a gambling license. Do you know more such sites?

It's cool that you did a bit of research into this and were able to pull out these recognizable company names, as you kind of expect this minimal level of effort from a name that has been around for a while now. Let's face it though, the jurisdictions that give out these licenses are only interested in the money and while they might make you 1% safer because they are prepared to do some minimal actions to help you if there is a problem, you're likely not going to get your money back if there is any kind of major dispute. The fact that a casino can do jurisdiction shopping means, even if they get kicked out of one offshore licensing location, they can simply go to the next one and pay an upfront fee to start it all over again.

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Only scam casinos will operate without license. Its either they are involved in illegal activities but there are consequences that may come from the regional government of where the casino is located or the jurisdiction.

Honestly, i never knew Bitvest operates without license i will do my own findings now.
Just-dice is one of the best reputed websites in gambling not just in crypto but worldwide.
I'd say you must be quite new to the scene to make these assumptions because it's really quite naive to believe that a license means much. Most of the online casinos operate completely offshore from the countries where they have established entities. Even if someone takes them to court there, it's not gonna make much sense.

These licenses are just so they can pay partners legally. Nothing more or less than that. They just want to complete some transactions, pay some bills, work with some regular companies that require this info etc. But other than that sites like just-dice have kept their reputation without egregious marketing or tricks from simply offering a good service. Similar to bustabit/bustadice etc. These sites have a very good reputation and have rarely to never received accusations of unfairness.


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If these casinos you mentioned don’t have a license, some gamblers would still play there, especially if the casino is old and has a good reputation.

But these days, the game has changed. A good reputation isn’t enough, you also need a proper license. The problem is, most casinos get their licenses from Curaçao, which I’ve read has some negative reviews. Apparently, this license provider doesn’t offer the best user security, so for some casinos, it’s just for show rather than real protection.

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March 31, 2025, 10:30:01 PM
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Maybe it's because they develop their own games? Because, the popular game providers are also regulated, so they ensure that any game they offer to a casino is only provided once the casino gets licensed.

The casinos mentioned in the OP have been around for years, and they’re still existing, but maybe only a few people are still playing there, and they’re not expanding into jurisdictions that have strict gambling regulations.

What I’m trying to say is, as long as the casino isn’t very popular, regulators might not pay much attention to them. But ultimately, it’s up to us whether we choose to play there. With unlicensed casinos, we’re risking playing without player protection.

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April 01, 2025, 06:06:18 PM
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Only scam casinos will operate without license. Its either they are involved in illegal activities but there are consequences that may come from the regional government of where the casino is located or the jurisdiction.

Honestly, i never knew Bitvest operates without license i will do my own findings now.

Are you sure with what you say? Can a license guarantee that casino will not be a scam later? I think you need to do more researches..
Let me tell you that most early reputable crypto casinos were not licensed years ago, will you call them scam as well?
@OP if I remember it correctly, coinroyale has no license too.
This is one of the oldest crypto casino that is still existing till now, I havent checked them recently but as long as I remember, they dont have any license.


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April 03, 2025, 01:16:38 AM
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This is an honest, sad truth about the Curacao master license holder that provides a gambling license to online casinos, and this is also why some gamblers see a casino with a Curacao license as a no-go platform.
I did a quick search, and it seems the licensing process has been challenged multiple times in the past. Some people claim the licensing has no legal basis while the related parties are corrupt. Some legal battles also claim that the government actively denies requests to ask for more details related to their licensing process[1]. CMIIW.

Btw, it seems like the Curacao license will change in the near future[2]. I don't know enough to comment about this but it seems like we'll easily find the responsible individuals under the new licensing rules (assuming the process is done correctly). But yeah, if a casino has enough reputation that they're reliable, they don't need it in the first place.

[1] https://next.io/news/regulation/curacao-governor-pm-named-igaming-licensing-lawsuit/
[2] https://www.uniwide.com/articles/deoffshorisation-in-action-the-situation-with-curacao-online-casino-licences/

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April 03, 2025, 02:35:09 AM
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I will be reading comments from other users to learn more about casinos operating without a licence and are trusted..
And let me even ask, if freebitco.in operating under any license?
They were the ones that immediately popped on my head when asked which operate under no license so I did a bit of looking up. Turns out they were now under FBC BV so I thought they already had a license of sorts. Then looked up the company and it turns out they were facing possible penalties for operating WITHOUT any license still, so yeah no, they don't have a license and from what I read, they're doing nothing to actually appeal this and would probably continue being licenseless.
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April 03, 2025, 04:49:04 AM
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TBH with License or No Licese.

Do the Curacao, the one who are created the License have some history to taken some action to the casino are using their license? I mean in vegas we have Gambling Board, these organization are really work (helping not just the casino but user it self).

However, I never see Curacao taken action to some casino or help the user.
Curacao changed their laws a few months ago. Things have really changed. Both BC.games and FJ lost court cases there so they pulled their licenses and moved elsewhere.
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Count dgbet.fun in.

Yeah the sites you mentioned have "ok" reputation, but CMIIW, I haven't see any big influencer promote their sites or become a partner of sports. Unlike licensed casinos, they even launch an event or become a brand ambassador of the teams.

As long as the no license casinos are profitable and not get threaten by governments, they're already successful. Because if they turn to be licensed casinos, they might lose their loyal customers.

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April 03, 2025, 09:05:18 AM
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I did not have an idea that those names have no licenses but let's face it, we don't really care about these things back then. An online casino accepting cryptocurrencies is the more important of all, especially during the times when selling it is a hard task. Heck, even trading sites made a dice game for the crypto traders to risk their cryptocurrencies in a different way.

I won't really mind about the names not having a license, especially for Bitvest. That name has been running for a long time, and its reputation is already rooted in the gambling industry, especially here in the forum.

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April 03, 2025, 11:56:37 AM
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However, most casinos that do not have a license, their games are mostly original, maybe for casinos this kind of game does not need a license.

Unlike casinos that have many games and one of them is from another provider.
Such as from multiple slot providers
Sportsbook provider.
I think if the casino wants to add these games then they need a license.


I didn't know this, so to open a casino it's not enough to make a company that pays taxes like other companies but you have to ask for licenses? Why this thing what licenses do you need. Doesn't the baker ask for the license?
Sorry, i am not in the industry and i am asking to understand.

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