Which casinos operate under no license?

[Strongkored]

The only casino I know of that is not licensed is freebitcoin, but their reputation is bad at the moment, so players should probably be wary of any potential bad things happening to them.

Off the top of my head I could name a few already.

Just-dice.com, Bitvest.io, bustadice.com, bustabit.com, swcpoker.club

Many of these sites are very old and have been running for years without stop. Generally they have an ok reputation. But what they have in common is that none of these sites runs under a gambling license. Do you know more such sites?

I just found out that some of the casinos you mentioned are not licensed and of those I have only ever played at just-dice.com, and crypto lovers who have been involved in crypto for a long time must have played at just-dice because this is one of the old casinos and it's quite amazing that they have survived for long time.

Often unlicensed casinos have limited games, so players will eventually go to licensed casinos.

[Oluwa-btc]

I didn’t know those casinos you mentioned had no licenses. I don’t even get why they don’t have it; it will add to their outlook of the casino and show that they are doing the correct operations and protocols when operating a casino.

This made it look like they were unreputable because they had no license. To me, this matters.

I was actually thinking the same thing as you also,I had Bitvest on my mind because have been seeing it as a reputable casino that has every necessary regulative policies to be registered and licensed.
Despite it,some users have commented that it has a solid reputation influence and wide range of users too.It could still have lapses,but they're proposed to be different from the others.

[suzanne5223]

This is an honest, sad truth about the Curacao master license holder that provides a gambling license to online casinos, and this is also why some gamblers see a casino with a Curacao license as a no-go platform.

I did a quick search, and it seems the licensing process has been challenged multiple times in the past. Some people claim the licensing has no legal basis while the related parties are corrupt. Some legal battles also claim that the government actively denies requests to ask for more details related to their licensing process[1]. CMIIW.

Btw, it seems like the Curacao license will change in the near future[2]. I don't know enough to comment about this but it seems like we'll easily find the responsible individuals under the new licensing rules (assuming the process is done correctly). But yeah, if a casino has enough reputation that they're reliable, they don't need it in the first place.

[1] https://next.io/news/regulation/curacao-governor-pm-named-igaming-licensing-lawsuit/
[2] https://www.uniwide.com/articles/deoffshorisation-in-action-the-situation-with-curacao-online-casino-licences/

I don't know if licensing has no legal basis, but based on what I read years ago about the Curacao master license holder, they seem to have rules and regulations every casino must follow, which protect the interests of the casino and its users. Suddenly, everything changes; that casino that operates with their license has the freedom to do as they please, and I believe this could be what triggers the belief of people that licensing has no legal basis.

I also believe things will change in the future.
We gamblers  have different beliefs, some gamblers don't like casinos that's not licensed while the casino's genuine services is the main focus of some gamblers

[FinneysTrueVision]

Betpanda is a well known casino and they do not have a gambling license as far as I'm aware. Like many casinos that are unlicensed they choose to incorporate in Costa Rica where they do not have strict regulations.

There is not much difference between licensed and unlicensed these days. Having a license from some exotic location isn’t going to make a casino any more likely to be held accountable.

[Outhue]

Being inspired by a discussion that erupted after I posted asking "What's even the point of licenses anymore?"

I think it's a good opportunity to make more of a direct question to try and find out which GOOD casinos actually have been operating under no licensing scheme at all. Of course there are hundreds if not thousands of casinos that run online without a real license, or pretending to have one that is actually fake, only to scam people. But I'm making this thread to ask about casinos that are not known to be out there with the intention of scamming everybody.

Off the top of my head I could name a few already.

Just-dice.com, Bitvest.io, bustadice.com, bustabit.com, swcpoker.club

Many of these sites are very old and have been running for years without stop. Generally they have an ok reputation. But what they have in common is that none of these sites runs under a gambling license. Do you know more such sites?

How did you know that they are not running on a license? I will like to know how you get this information, and also I won't be surprised even if they have no license because who knows them? Yes they have been running for some time already, the attention isn't just there yet.

It is only online casinos that aren't popular manages to stay hidden with no license, no one will come after them, so all they can do is stay under the radar, and operate quietly.

Truth be told, they are only shooting themselves in the foot, because they won't be able to grow bigger without license, they choose to operate quietly and the consequence of doing so is lack of attraction, many people won't know the casinos.

[shield132]

Off the top of my head I could name a few already.

Just-dice.com, Bitvest.io, bustadice.com, bustabit.com, swcpoker.club

Many of these sites are very old and have been running for years without stop. Generally they have an ok reputation. But what they have in common is that none of these sites runs under a gambling license. Do you know more such sites?

Bustabit and Bustadice are licensed casinos, they both hold Costa Rica licenses, bitvest and 777casino are both unlicensed but they have been advertising here since 2014.
There aren't many unlicensed crypto casinos because almost all of them advertise on Bitcointalk or at least have an ANN thread here and as far as I'm aware, some casinos got red trust or neutral trust on their account for not having a license.
Btw the only safe and trustworthy crypto casino that I know is l0tt0. They don't have a license but the owner is a very good guy.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Btw the only safe and trustworthy crypto casino that I know is l0tt0. They don't have a license but the owner is a very good guy.

In the end this is what counts, that they are casinos that are trustworthy, that do not cheat and above all that do not scam people, I imagine that things are like this because they want to maintain that particularity, those unlicensed casinos in the near future for me will be very attractive to gamblers because they offer different things, and as you say, if it is a friend of yours or is a trustworthy person then that gives rise to it being trustworthy in the end.

[wondering1]

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[uneng]

To have a license has never been an important thing in crypto industry, because enthusiasts of this market were used to run away from centralization, regulators and all the bureaucracy which came with it. So, to have a license would mean an attack to privacy, and therefore, something discouraged by crypto adopters.

It was only when crypto went mainstream that licenses become a positive aspect for many crypto enthusiasts. It's important to notice that the fact casinos weren't licensed a decade ago, didn't prevent them from offering a satisfactory service to customers.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Just-dice.com, Bitvest.io, bustadice.com, bustabit.com, swcpoker.club

If my memory serves me right, this casino are pre-2018 or much earlier? That's why during that time, maybe regulators are not that strict or even the community here is ok with casinos that don't have licenses.

Many of these sites are very old and have been running for years without stop. Generally they have an ok reputation. But what they have in common is that none of these sites runs under a gambling license. Do you know more such sites?

But in today's time, I doubt that there are casinos that can run without licenses. Even gamblers of today are meticulous on checking new casinos and see if they have license and where they got it and then go dig deeper to really check if everything is up to par. So I can't see casinos now can operate without license.

[alegotardo]

TBH with License or No Licese.

Do the Curacao, the one who are created the License have some history to taken some action to the casino are using their license? I mean in vegas we have Gambling Board, these organization are really work (helping not just the casino but user it self).

However, I never see Curacao taken action to some casino or help the user.

Your criticism is valid, but I need to leave a small observation here... it is still better to have an Curaçao license than none at all!
As far as I've discovered, the Lok Law (National Ordinance on Games of Chance) does not explicitly state that the regulatory body needs to handle player complaints or mediate and ordenate compensation to players... they are far from being seen as "a court".
But, why do I say it is better than nothing!? because to obtain a license in Curaçao, cassinos need to have a minimum standard of audits and follow some regulatory procedures, such as a complaint process with certain "standards".

Anyway, I do not know exactly what that means, but it seems to normalize an minimum necessary to players complain and be heard... an unlicensed casino can do whatever it wants, but I confess that even an unlicensed casino can implement much fairer and more favorable measures than what is required by Curaçao

[Yablee0]

Off the top of my head I could name a few already.

Just-dice.com, Bitvest.io, bustadice.com, bustabit.com, swcpoker.club

To me I don't think naming is doing good to people over here rather giving them indirect visibilities as people could on their own visit those sites. So, it would be better the discussion remain neutral without naming any of them as this is direct marketing to those sites in my opinion, but however if you think it's important to name them there is no issues it's good then.

You're right bro, it's not proper mentioning any names online because it's might cause or attract some unnecessary chaos, saying it generally might just be the best Way of narrating stuff life this.

However, for a gambler to be operating with an unlicenced gambling platforms is absolutely a big red flag and dangerous as well because your safety could just be the ultimate prize you will pay if you're that lucky or careful, therefore to ensure our safety in each of our gaming streak it's better we verify every necessity that's required before patronizing any gambling platforms to avoid being scammed or being pushed in a tight corner.

[Dunamisx]

There are many casino now operating without being licensed because they know that this could bring them a lot of challenges from the regulated authorities, why some of the operators also understands the need for gambler's privacy by not engaging into any form of regulations that may require them to place demand for user's KYC.

[SmartGold01]

However, for a gambler to be operating with an unlicenced gambling platforms is absolutely a big red flag and dangerous as well because your safety could just be the ultimate prize you will pay if you're that lucky or careful, therefore to ensure our safety in each of our gaming streak it's better we verify every necessity that's required before patronizing any gambling platforms to avoid being scammed or being pushed in a tight corner.

We just have to be that lucky while using a gambling site because if they are not licensed you can't assure of their safety or knowing how good they could be if they are not licensed.
To me I would advise people to be that careful while using them because most of this unlicensed casinos do set ToS in most of their favor and they operate through that, so whenever you are gambling if there terms aren't that suitable with you then it would be that better to leave than being tightened.

[Darker45]

If what I've gathered is right, Bitvest.io "is licensed under the Curacao eGaming Authority."^[1] Bustadice.com and bustabit.com are both operated by "Green Train S.R.L., a duly registered company in Costa Rica".^[2][3]

From where I am, casinos are proliferating like fruit flies. It seems many of them are either unlicensed or having fake or misleading licenses, but from the point of view of majority of gamblers, it doesn't matter. Almost all my neighbors and neighbor friends are into mobile gambling. All of them don't care whether the casino they're playing on is registered or not.

[1] https://trustdice.win/blog/bitvestio-review-2023-is-it-safe-and-reliable
[2] https://bustadice.com/tos
[3] https://bustabit.com/tos

[Maslate]

If we were still in the early stage, maybe casinos with licenses wouldn’t be what people wanted. Back then a lot of players preferred the ones with fewer restrictions. But now it feels like things have changed. Many players are more comfortable with licensed casinos because they offer more security compared to unlicensed ones.

Even if some unlicensed casinos manage to build a good reputation over the years, the risk is still there. We’ve seen cases where a casino runs fine for a long time and suddenly disappears or exit scams. When that happens there’s almost no protection for players, especially if we don’t even know who the real company or operators are behind it.

[Wapfika]

If we were still in the early stage, maybe casinos with licenses wouldn’t be what people wanted. Back then a lot of players preferred the ones with fewer restrictions. But now it feels like things have changed. Many players are more comfortable with licensed casinos because they offer more security compared to unlicensed ones.

Even if some unlicensed casinos manage to build a good reputation over the years, the risk is still there. We’ve seen cases where a casino runs fine for a long time and suddenly disappears or exit scams. When that happens there’s almost no protection for players, especially if we don’t even know who the real company or operators are behind it.

It’s correct since it’s feel more comfortable to play on licensed casino based on legal standpoint compared to unlicensed one. Also, it’s already proven metrics since most of the trusted and reputable casino nowadays are those licensed casino.

There’s still some isolated cases of licensed casino that turn to scam but that’s easy to spot if we will do a thorough check with their background.

Almost all exchange too ask KYC as mandatory requirements so I believe this help the acceptance of KYC too on casino industry.

[Hispo]

There are many casino now operating without being licensed because they know that this could bring them a lot of challenges from the regulated authorities, why some of the operators also understands the need for gambler's privacy by not engaging into any form of regulations that may require them to place demand for user's KYC.

But there is a very important problem and challenge for those services, assuming they go for that business model and disregarding KYC and AML policies completely. If they actually provide a good service and start to gain much volume and number of users, then eventually regulators and law enforcement will find the service and they will demand legal termination of it. Some countries go as far as seizing the domain of the casino or their Telegram infra-estructure.

So eventually non-licensed casinos will have to adapt to the will and whim of regulators and law enforcements if they want to continue to get the mountains of money they usually get from their usual gamblers.

In the end, one also takes a considerable risk by engaging with unlicensed casinos and bookies, because there are less warranties for us as gamblers.

[YOSHIE]

Which casinos operate under no license?

In essence, for some general gamblers a license is important to them, regardless of whether the online casino acts beyond the user's expectations, such as fraud, unfairness and so on.

In short, if we want to see which online casino has a license or not, we need to review several steps.
For example: How to Verify a Casino’s Licensing Status

By following the instructions from the thread above, I am sure and will definitely know which casinos have a license or not, you should check directly with the casino in question.

[michellee]

It is not easy to find crypto casino under no license today. The government will looking for that casino and impose them to follow regulations or they will shutdown the casinos.

If you finding no license casinos, you should be careful, no guarantee you will not face the risks. Although license casinos can be the same but you can report it to authority so they will do something to the casinos.

Maybe unreputable casino don't have license so you may need to be careful playing gambling there.