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Hey guys, how was the weekend? Anyway, the market seems to be in a zigzag phase lately — there’s no sustained price trend anymore, and I’m wondering why. Still, I see some traders are managing to win. What’s the secret? And which pairs are your go-to that seem less volatile? I’m asking because a friend pitched a trading opportunity to me earlier.  At first, I wasn’t interested, but I figured — what’s there to lose? So about those pairs: GUN, KILO — are they less volatile? Have you traded them before?
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April 06, 2025, 08:04:33 AM |
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Regarding the overall market status, I don't see any problem with trading as long as we're profitable. Whether volatility is high or low doesn't matter as what's important is that there's still enough volatility for our day trading strategies to work.
As for the coins you've shown, I'm not familiar with them. They're probably new listings, and If you want to discuss them further, I suggest creating a separate thread in the Altcoins Speculation section.
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April 06, 2025, 09:30:20 AM |
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For seasonal traders that is definitely hard to earn since most projects are downtrend but for day trader, if they got some experience then they can do some shorting and longing of tokens since its quite volatile to see the market movement now. But overall movement its most likely bearish. Personally I dont trade since the market is bleeding but waiting and holding some assets.
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April 06, 2025, 09:34:03 AM |
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Whats there to lose? Are you kidding? Your money, your time, your discipline etc.
You need to change your friends, so they don't pitch you stupid memecoins. You might as well gamble, at least with a casino with reputation you know your odds are fair, and you can even prove it with some games, and win.
FUN is the only token I recognize there and its a scam, period.
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April 06, 2025, 10:16:47 AM |
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Hey guys, how was the weekend? Anyway, the market seems to be in a zigzag phase lately — there’s no sustained price trend anymore, and I’m wondering why. Still, I see some traders are managing to win. What’s the secret? And which pairs are your go-to that seem less volatile?
I’m asking because a friend pitched a trading opportunity to me earlier. At first, I wasn’t interested, but I figured — what’s there to lose? So about those pairs: GUN, KILO — are they less volatile? Have you traded them before?
You should get used to it because if you are trying out to observe then weekends is usually that not that volatile or lets say its really that making up some consolidation on which this is the time you will be saying that it isnt moving that much and it turned out that the market is that making some less volatility and this isnt something new. If you've been here on this market for a while then you have been get used to it and instead making yourself having that kind of being discourage on whats happening then it will be much better that you do make out some trading plans on what the market might do whenever weekdays do hit. So into the question whether you do still trade or not? If you dont see any viable positions or entries then why would be forcing yourself on making up a trade? Patience will be the main thing that will be that tested up when you do saw the market isnt giving out some good movements but rather it is making up some sideways movement on which it will be causing up such boredom and ending up on rushing up on making positions. Patience would be tested out and if you cant be able to sustain then you are bound to make out some mistakes and errors.
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April 06, 2025, 11:30:56 AM |
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Hey guys, how was the weekend? Anyway, the market seems to be in a zigzag phase lately — there’s no sustained price trend anymore, and I’m wondering why. Still, I see some traders are managing to win. What’s the secret? And which pairs are your go-to that seem less volatile?
Ser, the only "trade" to make in any cycle, and any part of the cycle is HODL BITCOIN. I am absolutely sure that MOST of our fellow plebs in BitcoinTalk CANNOT outperform Bitcoin. Therefore, why waste your time constructing a shitcoin "portfolio" if it will make less profit than HODLing Bitcoin? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I’m asking because a friend pitched a trading opportunity to me earlier.  At first, I wasn’t interested, but I figured — what’s there to lose? So about those pairs: GUN, KILO — are they less volatile? Have you traded them before? If your friend is naive, then OK. But if he/she is not naive and he/she is pitching that "trading opportunity", then I would question the friendship. 
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April 06, 2025, 01:01:09 PM |
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Hey guys, how was the weekend? Anyway, the market seems to be in a zigzag phase lately — there’s no sustained price trend anymore, and I’m wondering why. Still, I see some traders are managing to win. What’s the secret? And which pairs are your go-to that seem less volatile?
I traded this weekend, and I would say that I'm at around breakeven during the last 2 days.  Yesterday, I can't see the trend... or maybe I'm just that dumb enough to not spot the trend hence, making loss trades. Today, it's pretty much obvious that the market is going to a downtrend that's why I took short positions here and there, and I made some profit for the day, but that's just enough to cover my yesterday's losses. Well, as long as I'm not losing money then I'm making progress.  I’m asking because a friend pitched a trading opportunity to me earlier. At first, I wasn’t interested, but I figured — what’s there to lose? So about those pairs: GUN, KILO — are they less volatile? Have you traded them before? What's there to lose? That requires you to trade using your real money and if you don't know how to trade, you might end up losing your money.  I don't know what exchange has that kind of event, but I'll assume that's from Bitget, a popular exchange that has lots of traders. Imagine you losing around 100$ just to earn a few cents coming from that event. That's because there are many better traders out there that will join on that event. As for those pairs, I'm not trading it myself, but you can see that if the 24-hr trading volume is low, there's a high chance that it will be more volatile compared to other coins.
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Hey guys, how was the weekend? Anyway, the market seems to be in a zigzag phase lately — there’s no sustained price trend anymore, Are you sure? Have you looked at the chats this same weekend? Still, I see some traders are managing to win. What’s the secret? And which pairs are your go-to that seem less volatile? You are looking at shitcoins, but then you ask for trading pairs that are less volatile? It looks like you have misplaced priorities At first, I wasn’t interested, but I figured — what’s there to lose?
Money/funds... that is what you are going to lose.
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April 06, 2025, 11:52:38 PM |
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Regarding the overall market status, I don't see any problem with trading as long as we're profitable. Whether volatility is high or low doesn't matter as what's important is that there's still enough volatility for our day trading strategies to work.
As for the coins you've shown, I'm not familiar with them. They're probably new listings, and If you want to discuss them further, I suggest creating a separate thread in the Altcoins Speculation section. Traders and investors basically need volatility to make money, so price volatility should not be a problem. The problem may be when they have difficulty predicting price movements and the market becomes less liquid as expected, I mean prices tend to fall even though there is a positive sentiment towards growth. In the current situation, I will not trade on newly listed altcoin. This is something I mostly avoid in trading, but anyone who is willing to take the risk will probably get the benefit. I don't usually trade on new altcoins, my tendency is to trade on old altcoins that already have good strength including their trading volume and their performance so far. But wait, the market crashed again today and merket caps are really down a lot, now at -8%. Cryptocurrency Prices by Market Cap The global cryptocurrency market cap today is $2.58 Trillion, a -8.1% change in the last 24 hours.
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April 07, 2025, 02:22:10 AM |
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new pairs means new volatility but also means price discovery phase, you don't want to trade perpetual on these pair but spot trading is okay.
current market is actually pretty good for trading, the discrepancy between S&P500 chart with bitcoin's is an obvious leading indicator. I mean, when the tariff is what all you see 24/7 you'd expect sentiment to be bearish and market always on short mode.
the people who wins at time like this are the people who can read the situation and act accordingly and honestly there are tons of them.
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April 07, 2025, 02:34:14 AM |
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what’s there to lose? So about those pairs: GUN, KILO — are they less volatile? Have you traded them before?
New listing tokens are the most volatile assets. It’s either will pump hard or dump hard because it usually has the hype from potential buyers to purchased if there’s a trend or dump when old token holders from other exchange waited for the listing of big exchange that frequently create a trend. On a market that zigzag its better to do grid trading since the price moves in a range which is great to have a consistent small profit. The only thing needed is always set stop loss because there’s always a possibility to breakout on either side.
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You don't say "less volatile" for a coin that barely listed for a month. it's even worse situation to be in if these coin also held TGE and did an airdrop because now is the time for the airdrop receiver to dump their bag to the market and it can cause the price to plummet so sharply. the reason that exchange incentivizes trading those pairs is to increase trading volume so the future market can work because the leveraged trade need high trading volume. and also it's because the exchange subtly know you're most likely to lose hence to reduce your stress they give you some little cashback  . you know MM's manipulation happen pretty frequently at early listing like this. I wouldn't trade any of the coin in that picture with 10 ft of pole in a market like this  .
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For seasonal traders that is definitely hard to earn since most projects are downtrend but for day trader, if they got some experience then they can do some shorting and longing of tokens since its quite volatile to see the market movement now. But overall movement its most likely bearish. Personally I dont trade since the market is bleeding but waiting and holding some assets.
The Bullish trend slowly began to weaken after Bitcoin touched a price below 80K, then all negative speculations will make Altcoin suffer even more. For traders conditions like this are not profitable at all, they will continue to be brought down to the lower area and as long as they have not found the lowest point to buy, then I think trading in conditions like this is not a good choice.
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new pairs means new volatility but also means price discovery phase, you don't want to trade perpetual on these pair but spot trading is okay.
Haha "Price Discovery".  But what those people don't tell us plebs is, new pairs actually mean new opportunities to manipulate those low-liquidity shitcoins. Do you, as a pleb, actually believe that you have an edge over the people behind the casino? Don't play their stupid games, ser. Protect your savings, just Buy And HODL Bitcoin. A Golden Opportunity is coming.
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I don't trade new coins or a coin that is not moves good, spot or future trade because that will be too volatile and we don't know where the price will go. The pump and dump will happen to those coins so that can make us get in the trap and lose the money.
About GUN and KILO, that will need more research to find if those coins is good or bad. You also need to do the same to know more details so you can decide it later. Maybe you can search for the other coins that look better than those two coins so that will be more volatile.
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April 07, 2025, 06:04:45 AM |
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I don't trade new coins or a coin that is not moves good, spot or future trade because that will be too volatile and we don't know where the price will go. The pump and dump will happen to those coins so that can make us get in the trap and lose the money.
About GUN and KILO, that will need more research to find if those coins is good or bad. You also need to do the same to know more details so you can decide it later. Maybe you can search for the other coins that look better than those two coins so that will be more volatile.
New coins are tempting but always a high risk. Either they rise like crazy or fall like crazy. Even when I wait it to fall and stabilize, it keeps falling again out of nowhere. I have multiple times lost on doing long on a decreased coin hoping for a sideways or bullish market but the price of coin kept falling. On contrary, I tried some shorting on these new coins as well and again I got liquidated, this particularly for the PI coin. But I don't just blame the new coins as even old coins are moving crazy these days. 
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April 07, 2025, 06:18:01 AM |
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As long as the market is moving regardless of the direction, I don't see why the traders shouldn't trade! Every movement is an opportunity. Same goes for the stock market as well. Bitcoin and many shares are available at a dirt cheap price right now. If you are not comfortable with trading, at least buy and hold for the future.
Also, now with Trump effect, we almost know the direction of the market. So go ahead, short, make money! It's no rocket science! However, I personally stay away from new coins and token because big money pump and dump games happen there. I try to stay within my known territory to lower down the risk.
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April 07, 2025, 07:02:18 AM Last edit: April 07, 2025, 07:23:20 AM by Koadharber |
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I don't trade new coins or a coin that is not moves good, spot or future trade because that will be too volatile and we don't know where the price will go. The pump and dump will happen to those coins so that can make us get in the trap and lose the money.
About GUN and KILO, that will need more research to find if those coins is good or bad. You also need to do the same to know more details so you can decide it later. Maybe you can search for the other coins that look better than those two coins so that will be more volatile.
New coins are tempting but always a high risk. Either they rise like crazy or fall like crazy. Even when I wait it to fall and stabilize, it keeps falling again out of nowhere. I have multiple times lost on doing long on a decreased coin hoping for a sideways or bullish market but the price of coin kept falling. On contrary, I tried some shorting on these new coins as well and again I got liquidated, this particularly for the PI coin. But I don't just blame the new coins as even old coins are moving crazy these days.  Always been that a high risks when dealing up with those coins/tokens on their earliest days or weeks or even on launching on which you dont know on when the hype dies down. When it comes to profitability then yes it could give out that kind of chance on which if you do able to hit up the right spot and some mix of luck, then you would definitely make that huge money or profit. There are those time that the market is making up some sideways movement or doesnt move that much or less volatile. If you are someone who do wants actions all the time then you will get bored whenever this time do happen on which this could give out that kind of impression that the market isnt the same on what it was before on which this is very common for most traders. Even myself is guilty with this because there are those times that you do want to see some volatile price movements. Why wont be trading? You do have that choice on when you should trade and if you do find out that its not that interesting then you can skip anytime.
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April 07, 2025, 08:03:33 AM |
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I’m asking because a friend pitched a trading opportunity to me earlier.
Since you've been able to observe that the market isn't that much in a hurry to sustain a trend and that it's in a zigzag situation, why don't you steer clear off the market then? It's not a must that you've to be in the market. Choose the best time to get into the market for profit. It's not a wise thing to trade in a zigzag (ranging) market. If you can't see clearly with pairs you know already, don't trade new pairs. Don't trade pairs just because friends introduced them to you. From where I stand, the market is in a bear (not a bear season yet, anyway.) If I were to trade, I would be shorting the market and that would be on BTC/stablecoin (any of that) pairs. That's to be on a safe side.
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If you know whaat you're doing any market state can be an opportunity. I mean even the small profits just build up and stack on top of each other and at the end of the day, would still be actual profit. A lot more compared to just sitting around and waiting for the "right" moment. Only applies if you know what you're doing though. Personally I'd like to say I do but my history says I don't, so I just don't trade in general. Times like these though seem like buy opportunities for me so I just buy every now and then whenever dips like these happen. No comment on the coins though, idrk about them.
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