Trump "pauses tariffs"

[paxmao]

What is the best thing about the tariff policy of the US? That it is as inconsistent as anything else produced by the current administration.

Trump paused the policies except against China just a few hours ago. But the damage to the credibility is done and the companies and people do no longer percieve a predictable environment for their purchases and investments. Damage done, gain =0

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/tariffs-trump-china-ftse-uk-eu-stock-markets-latest-news-b2729924.html

ariffs live: Trump says he issued 90-day pause because people were ‘yippy’ and ‘afraid

[Stalker22]

The "best" thing about the US tariff policy? There is none! Its a total mess. Changing your mind every five seconds like he does just screws everyone over. 
that is definitely a form of his negotiation tactic.

[franky1]

trump has to do negotiations with (currently 75 willing countries), which takes time..
however he wants an answer from china now

so knowing its going to take upto 90 days to get through the current 75 countries negotiations he has done them a favour by not forcing them into the new deal before they can negotiate..

however again trump wants china to come to the negotiation table now, not in upto 90 days

[suchmoon]

What happened Navarro, Lutnick, et al bleating "this is not a negotiation" for the last week or so?

Rhetorical question of course. Morons crashed the market, got reprimanded by fellow billionaires, and quickly "fixed" what didn't need breaking to begin with. Fart of the deal.

[bitterguy28]

What is the best thing about the tariff policy of the US? That it is as inconsistent as anything else produced by the current administration.

Trump paused the policies except against China just a few hours ago. But the damage to the credibility is done and the companies and people do no longer percieve a predictable environment for their purchases and investments. Damage done, gain =0

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/tariffs-trump-china-ftse-uk-eu-stock-markets-latest-news-b2729924.html

ariffs live: Trump says he issued 90-day pause because people were ‘yippy’ and ‘afraid

lol this is a mess i do not know if this was the right call

people were afraid because was being extreme but since he pushed through it he should have just went ahead with it and proved everyone that he was on the right and assured everyone now he seems like a president who can’t make his mind up will other countries start taking him less seriously?

[franky1]

What happened Navarro, Lutnick, et al bleating "this is not a negotiation" for the last week or so?

Rhetorical question of course. Morons crashed the market, got reprimanded by fellow billionaires, and quickly "fixed" what didn't need breaking to begin with. Fart of the deal.

they were/are saying it in terms of.. this is not just a empty threat that we will cower down and give up on for free or on your terms..  these new levels are going to go ahead, we wont scare easily and just give in. we are not going to just walk upto your table and back down giving you everything you want for free.. you need to come to our negotiation table and take what we offer.. in exchange for things we want..  or else in 90 days the levels are initiated

so ofcourse they are not going to sound like its an empty threat. as that just weakens negotiations

its like you(recently by the sound of maturity) if you got bullied at school even if you know you might have to give up some of your pocket money.. are not going to say just "tell me how much you want im easy". you are going to hold strong and say:
"im not negotiating with you, im not gonna give you my pocket money for nothing no matter what you say you want"..
or
"now how about i hire you as my protection and get you to punch steve over there for touching my sister, then ill give you a good rate of my pocket money.."

thus your in control of negotiations.. not them. knowing you wont give up your pocket money unless it benefits you on your terms

[Accardo]

Political strategies are like military moves, it's unpredictable. Nobody expected the 90days delay, followed by a special tarrif attack on China. Trump wants to make America wealthy again, and he wouldn't stop taxing all big extablishments. Though he doesn't want a stuffy market, goods need to move freely at low rates, companies have to spend lesser to sustain jobs. Hence the 90days should be an interval that'll help analysts perfect his next move in the market. He boosted of being the best deal man in the world. The show is happening.

[suchmoon]

thus your in control of negotiations.. not them. knowing you wont give up your pocket money unless it benefits you on your terms

Makes about as much sense as your (somehow magically disappeared) thread about the idiotic formula that was so brilliant and poof it's gone just like your thread, all bullshit formulas thrown away, all taxes set at 10%, except China, which can get whatever it wants now that Trump has shown himself to be full of chickenshit. Or to use your analogy, you've given fake money to all bullies except one, that'll definitely teach that one bully that you're definitely a super-tough keyboard warrior and totally not giving up.

I bet you will find excuses even when the same government officials turn out to have done insider trading while lying to the public.

[letteredhub]

Probably a strategy to attract other country leaders to a roundtable prep talk on revisiting for a cut-down of their respective country's tarrif towards US imported goods which in any case is going to be in the benefit of the US economy. On the contrary, I don't see things working for Trump as he had played his cards in the wrong way least expected because the damage from this tariff announcement for the past few days has been enormous with no gain for it.

[Felicity_Tide]

Trump paused the policies except against China just a few hours ago. But the damage to the credibility is done and the companies and people do no longer percieve a predictable environment for their purchases and investments. Damage done, gain =0

I haven't come across this news today, or maybe I didn't spend enough time on X(Twitter) today. Why cease the tarrif war against other countries and exempt China?, seem to me like a political motive already.
What agreement or terms did other countries come to that changed Trump's decision?. I know Trump wouldn't make any decision that isn't in favour of the people of the United States.

What is the best thing about the tariff policy of the US?

So far, it has been really disastrous for the financial market in general. I want to believe that he his aware of how bad his policies has affected others, but he chose to overlook and continue with the damage.

[BADecker]

Those poor financial markets. They know they are going to die. The pause simply gives investors a chance to get out of them... and get a job if necessary.

Many of the large fast food places are barely turning any kind of profit. Time to open fast food that is nutritious rather than disastrous for people. Time for Trump to support MAHA fast food, and to do this kind of thing for all industries. You get the picture.

[franky1]

thus your in control of negotiations.. not them. knowing you wont give up your pocket money unless it benefits you on your terms

Makes about as much sense as your (somehow magically disappeared) thread

well its obviously you never want nor had the upper hand in any discussion. so wont make sense to you

that other topic disappeared because it was about the 2:1 DISCOUNT, i tried reminding you multiple times

you however wanted to endlessly, obsessively, ignorantly want to twist it round inversely.. to talk about other things related to something else..
you couldnt even stop yourself.... you ended up just ruining the flow of the topic.

and eventually now the peg is broke and its no longer 2:1, the topic became meaningless.. so why keep a topic no longer relevant, especially when it had an endless stream of off-topic nonsense added by someone that couldnt control their silliness to just make their own topic.


now that i dealt with you new off topic rant... lets get back on topic

trumps ultimate goal is not tariffs set in stone, but to actually get the other side to remove theirs(stop them charging a bully hall pass)
but it requires the negotiator to have the upper hand and not give in to bullies

[Apocollapse]

This tariffs is full of drama.

First he boldly say to impose the tariffs, then there's an article I read Trump could consider to pause this tariff up to 90 days, then he said he's not looking to pause it. He impose tariff 67% to China, China impose retaliatory tariff 34% to US and after few days they increase it to 84%, now US can't accept it and increase the tariff to 125%. Trump also revise from fully impose the tariffs to pauses for 90 days.

US should know the other countries now have bargaining power, they will not always win in everything they want.

[franky1]

This tariffs is full of drama.

First he boldly say to impose the tariffs, then there's an article I read Trump could consider to pause this tariff up to 90 days, then he said he's not looking to pause it. He impose tariff 67% to China, China impose retaliatory tariff 34% to US and after few days they increase it to 84%, now US can't accept it and increase the tariff to 125%. Trump also revise from fully impose the tariffs to pauses for 90 days.

US should know the other countries now have bargaining power, they will not always win in everything they want.

MEDIA are getting it all wrong(everyone knows media are not good at investigative journalism, its no secret)

75 countries are agreeing to come to the US's negotiation table. so all of the variable rate tariffs of THOSE COUNTRIES are being delayed for 90 days and those coming to the negotiation table are getting a base 10% rate implemented immediately to play with for 90days until the newest higher rates apply(if not negociated down during that period)

however those not coming to negotiations, especially china are getting their newer higher rates immediately

trump wants china to come to the negotiation table and be first inline to negotiate. but because they dont want to negotiate trump is not giving them the 10% 90 day rate because they are not coming to the negotiation table

it takes time to negotiate with 75+ countries so thats why the 90day delay is there. to give each country time to sit with trump and make deals.

MMORPG game analogy
(between level/mission loading screen... not mid game pause screen)

group waiting room for next level to begin.. lengthy time loading to render defined detail. allowing those that want to join a group mission time to plan strategy for the next level for best gameplay experience and success(easy level setting) once loading is complete for next level

and while waiting they get to play a easy fun mini mission inside the waiting room arena, set at 10% difficulty, while they negotiate strategy/relationships of the real game

those that dont want to play together are thrown into a badly rendered next level at a high difficulty

[Vod]

China will never talk to Trump - it's the equivalent of kissing the ring, and China no longer needs to.

The US relies on China for almost everything, unless you want to pay double.  Chinese people buy considerably less US products.  The US is too in debt to last for long, while China can weather this indefinitely.

Stalker22 wrote it best - Trump has destroyed trust it took decades to build with his uncertainty.

[paxmao]

trump has to do negotiations with (currently 75 willing countries), which takes time..
however he wants an answer from china now

so knowing its going to take upto 90 days to get through the current 75 countries negotiations he has done them a favour by not forcing them into the new deal before they can negotiate..

however again trump wants china to come to the negotiation table now, not in upto 90 days

You are the king of childish responses. "He" is not going to be in 75 negotiations, there will be a few teams in each region that will do something that they could and should have done anyway without having to cause a market caos, scare investment and create a problem for everyone. This is what happens when you get a text-book narcissist in a government.

China has started their own "negotiating agenda" - they are a super-sized manufacturer of the cheap products the poor people in US need and have plenty of leverage. Trump should know that the first step to win is choosing your battles.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/10/us-china-trade-war-intensifies-as-beijings-tariffs-come-into-effect-after-trump-pause

China’s 84% tariffs on US products come into force amid market relief after Trump suspends steep reciprocal tariffs elsewhere

[Gozie51]

What I see is the trade war that is going on between US and China, Trump is making it obvious. What I don't know is whether US is Afraid of China that they are singling them out for their tax tariff increase so that to make goes produced in China higher so as to force investors to stay in US because of cost of production material and finished goods.

Moreover, I hope that Trump up and down unstable tax policy won't cause price instability in the market.

[franky1]

pre tariff drama of trump admin (short version)

when america bought $439b chinese goods.. the chinese government treasury was only getting the 13% sales tax($57b) in its treasury from sales to US
comparing that to china's whole treasury revenue of $3.4trillion.. $57b is not much(1.6%)

why would china think it would ever be a good relations deal to need to buy $296b more US goods to appease trump, just to retain trade from US worth only $57b to its treasury
china would rather the US buys $296b LESS GOODS from china to balance the deficit.  rather than china buy $296b more goods to balance the deficit.
china would rather lose most /all 57b sales tax.. which it can make back up by doing easier deals with other countries

simply put
with all the brics drama happening as a separate situation.. china would rather do no business with america

[suchmoon]

trumps ultimate goal is not tariffs set in stone, but to actually get the other side to remove theirs(stop them charging a bully hall pass)
but it requires the negotiator to have the upper hand and not give in to bullies

The US does not have the upper hand. China saw that all it needs for Trump to cave in is to wait a day or two for the stock market to drop. So they can ratchet retaliatory tariffs to 500%, Trump will obediently respond, and then will declare victory by revoking the stupid shit he did himself. Just one of many ways this can play out without any benefit for the US. At the expense of everyone paying a 10% federal sales tax, we love new taxes don't we.

[Zanab247]

This is the best thing a potential leader can do to give hope for his followers, which is what Trump did to paused the tariff policy, because the policy is affecting many companies and citizens negatively already. I guess the U.S president pay attention to many channels about the complain of the citizens and their living concerning the tariff, because if the tariff continue, it will cause so many hardship in the country that will make people to rate the past administration as a savour to them if this tariff continue.

I know that China government will not worry too much about the tariff, because they have many policies that will make their economic not to be reduce by U.S tariff.