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April 10, 2025, 12:58:54 AM
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Welcome to the forum 2xpt

It seems you need to improve a couple of things. First thing first, you have to buy a Copper membership so your newbie restrictions get lifted, and you can post images. Currently, the image you posted is not showing because newbies are not allowed to post images. Click here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=credit;promote and follow the process to buy a copper membership.

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I like the concept of the game running purely on Bitcoin and not requiring any form of identity verification or any personal details at all. I will suggest that rather than private keys, you can use recovery phrase. A private key usually requires the user to copy it on the device they're on and is difficult to back up any other way that's not electronic. A recovery or seed phrase is easier to write down.

I didn't see a live support option, how are inquiries handled? It's mentioned also in the site that inactive accounts are purged, do you have access to the wallet details too, or the user can withdraw them whenever they want using the private keys provided?

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April 10, 2025, 07:26:03 AM
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Welcome to the forum 2xpt. An interesting concept you got here
Will do well to check the site later but before that I have some questions.

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You posted something about depositing
Meaning that there's a casino address we are depositing in
What happens with an inactive account with some satoshi?
Are they going to be refunded?

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No Login System - Control your account using cryptographic signature keys
Then how does accessing ones account work
No Log in?

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I like the concept of the game running purely on Bitcoin and not requiring any form of identity verification or any personal details at all. I will suggest that rather than private keys, you can use recovery phrase. A private key usually requires the user to copy it on the device they're on and is difficult to back up any other way that's not electronic. A recovery or seed phrase is easier to write down.


we have tried recovery phrase in our testing phrase, the key size bigger and since everything is anonymous & hashed, our database would grow 3X the speed.

a golden rule of computing is to keep minimal overhead.
 



do you have access to the wallet details too, or the user can withdraw them whenever they want using the private keys provided?

No we do not have access to wallet, private key never leave your browser, plus they are just to sign message not hold actual funds.
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Welcome to BitcoinTalk platform, OP. I must commend your efforts in putting this website up, as I see it to be a total anonymous game site where nobody has control over but I was curious to ask if there are any issues along the line, since I could not see customer care, how do one communicate their compliant to the gaming site if they do not know this platform earlier maybe they just stumbled upon the game site and want to try it for themselves and encountered a challenge how do they go about it or they made an observation that needs urgent attention.

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you can email us, details are available on our website.

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So i need to save this key ?  Huh Huh Huh
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April 10, 2025, 09:49:20 PM
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Does it really matter whether you need to log in or not? What do you mean by no login system? Without a login system, it couldn't identify the user. You can say we don't need to create passwords; we could log in with private keys. It's harder than remembering a password. You need to secure your private keys to keep your account secure. It's good you don't need KYC, but still we need credentials to use your platform.

Let us know how we could make sure you don't keep a copy of the private key if it's generated from your platform. Because it's impossible to use our existing private keys. Keep sharing more information on this thread. Let's try to figure out how your platform works.

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2XPT is currently in beta, and we're looking for initial connections and reviews. We invite you to test our platform with small amounts and provide feedback to help us improve.
No kyc and no logins is a good thing, but do you have any plans of adding more games or you are just sticking with single dice game?
It is interesting adding to allow users to use bitcoin private key, but it defeats the purpose if you can also have control over the same keys.

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April 10, 2025, 11:25:33 PM
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Looks like we can enter private keys not generated on 2XPT as well



I'd probably just create a burner wallet that could easily let me view private keys— for convenience's sake— if I wanna play. Or perhaps op could let players drop an address and a signed message from it (sign of ownership) as an alternative login. Maybe it'd feel less threatening for other folks too.

In any case, promising concept op. Good luck!

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Looks like we can enter private keys not generated on 2XPT as well



I'd probably just create a burner wallet that could easily let me view private keys— for convenience's sake— if I wanna play. Or perhaps op could let players drop an address and a signed message from it (sign of ownership) as an alternative login. Maybe it'd feel less threatening for other folks too.

In any case, promising concept op. Good luck!

You are 100% correct, the private-key never leaves your browser, its only used to sign a message.

Feel free to debug in browser, i will have API spec out soon as well.

Let us know how we could make sure you don't keep a copy of the private key if it's generated from your platform. Because it's impossible to use our existing private keys. Keep sharing more information on this thread. Let's try to figure out how your platform works.

You can make sure using browser debug tools, or console, or wireshark.

Easiest way would be to inspect your browser and check for requests.

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I don't like the idea about providing our private key, why you doesn't make it work as the old school casinos where we bet directly to an address and the bet result come back to the same address where we send the bet? that kind of onchain casinos was goos and we didn't have the risk of sharing our keys. I'm not sure if i understand the concept wrong, but the fact that you have our keys doesn't feel something secure for the users.

But the casino concept is new and i like the new solutions, so, good luck building trust in the community.
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I don't like the idea about providing our private key, why you doesn't make it work as the old school casinos where we bet directly to an address and the bet result come back to the same address where we send the bet? that kind of onchain casinos was goos and we didn't have the risk of sharing our keys. I'm not sure if i understand the concept wrong, but the fact that you have our keys doesn't feel something secure for the users.

But the casino concept is new and i like the new solutions, so, good luck building trust in the community.

I think there might be a small misunderstanding about how our system works. We don’t ask for or store your personal Bitcoin private keys. Instead, when you create an account on 2xpt.com, a random private key is generated on your device, and that becomes your login. It's similar to how wallets like MetaMask work — no email, no password, no KYC.

So think of it like this: 2xpt works just like Primedice, but instead of signing up with an email, you're logging in with a self-custodied key. No personal info, and you stay anonymous.

Hope that clears it up! And thanks again — building trust is definitely the #1 goal.
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I really don't the see the point of your site op because whatever you are offering isn't really appealing or unique to be frank. I can play dice with 1% house edge in several decentralised sites where they don't request KYC and offer great promotions.

The private key concept is pretty cool, but that's just a unique login system. You need to offer some great promotions if you wish to attract gamblers in droves. Also, no one in their right mind would invest in your site since it looks like it's in its alpha stage.

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April 11, 2025, 08:01:47 AM
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Welcome to the forum. I like your post, but I have some questions you need to improve. Please create and post an ANN thread first. To publish your photos, you must buy a Copper membership, and if you do not buy a Copper membership, you will have to become a minimum R member. Since you have published it here, you will get a good idea about what problems or what would be better to do and what would be better to solve. 2xpt, Please share the link to your website. I tried to visit your site, but I could not find any of your sites properly.

 
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April 11, 2025, 09:49:53 AM
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you can email us, details are available on our website.



The last time I checked your website before calling your attention to a possible customer care service, there was no email address found on your website and not even a customer care service available. I had to check again before I replied to your tag, but I could not see anything with respect to my inquiries. Why did you remove or edit the quote that automatically caught my attention that you mentioned me? I have the notification on my telegram bot you mentioned to me, but I'm coming here to see that you edited it, and this makes it look somehow.

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April 11, 2025, 12:43:44 PM
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No login system yet it needs a key to access an account which means you still to login but using different medium rather than the typical email and password.

I don’t like this personally since I need to save my keys in able to access it which means I need to back up that keys on every device if I want to login from different device because it’s hard to remember it manually.

And how can you deal if someone lost his keys? It means user already lost his account right?

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April 11, 2025, 12:48:32 PM
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Or perhaps op could let players drop an address and a signed message from it (sign of ownership) as an alternative login. Maybe it'd feel less threatening for other folks too.
They will not be able to deduct from the accounts as the players bet if the private key is not shared. I will assume they need some sort of smart contract or 3rd party service to effect deductions from the wallet.

Adding this feature brings up a big question mark about trust and I believe it will be better for a new casino to operate as traditional ones, not generating new keys or requiring private keys to log in.

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April 11, 2025, 01:09:33 PM
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You need to offer some great promotions if you wish to attract gamblers in droves. Also, no one in their right mind would invest in your site since it looks like it's in its alpha stage.

Bro, as you noticed, the website is in the alpha stage, and they are looking for user feedback at this moment. Should we expect some great promotions from a not-ready platform? They are just expecting reviews from the community at this moment and not expecting people to invest huge money.

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