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April 10, 2025, 02:28:26 PM
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2-Simply stays within their predetermined loss limits?
This describes better who a smart bettor should be, because everyone looses in gambling regardless of how smart they are, so looses should not be the element to judge with, but rather the ability to stay controlled and within your financial limits.
A smart bettor makes sure to ensure that activities from his gambling do not begin to spill into and affect other aspects and areas of their lives. A gambler who has chosen discipline is smart.

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April 10, 2025, 02:32:26 PM
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Let's face reality.. most gamblers lose money in the long run. But does that automatically mean we're not smart bettors?

I want to ask:
Do you define a smart bettor as someone who:

1- Minimizes their losses effectively, or
2-Simply stays within their predetermined loss limits?

Explain based on your understanding and experience. We're focusing on losses here, but if you want to share insights from your winning strategies (if you're profitable), that would be even more interesting to discuss.

I can't see them being a separate characteristic of a smart bettor. By staying with your predetermined loss limit, you're also able to minimize your losses. You recognize when to walk away before a misfortune becomes a reality. You protect yourself from unnecessary risks. You're able to make thoughtful, deliberate decisions instead of being swayed by emotions or the pressure to recover losses.
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April 10, 2025, 02:33:53 PM
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Let's face reality.. most gamblers lose money in the long run. But does that automatically mean we're not smart bettors?

I want to ask:
Do you define a smart bettor as someone who:

1- Minimizes their losses effectively, or
2-Simply stays within their predetermined loss limits?

Explain based on your understanding and experience. We're focusing on losses here, but if you want to share insights from your winning strategies (if you're profitable), that would be even more interesting to discuss.

You know what happens in the field of gambling business like this is that the majority of gamblers' problems are that they already have a win to take home because of their greed,
they still lose their winning prize in the casino most of the time.

You should have a limit amount on the money you will lose in gambling, once you reach that amount and it is gone from your balance, stop, don't try to deposit just to recover what you lost in gambling. At least even if you lose but you stop, it could be considered that you decide a smart move as a gambler.

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April 10, 2025, 02:40:38 PM
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Those that are gambling responsibly are smart in betting and they can be regarded as smart bettors. Gambling is not about winning because almost all gamblers are losing. Those that are able to spend little amount of money and in a way gambling is not affecting them health wise, financially, physically, spiritually and mentally are smart bettors.
This is true... It's not smart just because you're good at making analysis or strategy or making bets because after all, winning depends on luck, not skill or intelligence.

Maybe my thoughts define the same as yours;
Can manage money responsibly.
Not addicted or ready to lose.
Able to play with small amounts.
There is no pressure whatsoever, so gambling remains happy.

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April 10, 2025, 02:43:31 PM
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I want to ask:
Do you define a smart bettor as someone who:

1- Minimizes their losses effectively, or
2-Simply stays within their predetermined loss limits?
both of those things are smart thing to have when you are a gambler, I mean, staying within your loss limits perevent your from losing more money than you intended and minimizng your loses effectively meaning you can stop on your gambling session whether you are winning or losing(at least this is how I interepret it).

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April 10, 2025, 02:48:30 PM
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I want to ask:
Do you define a smart bettor as someone who:

1- Minimizes their losses effectively, or
2-Simply stays within their predetermined loss limits?

Explain based on your understanding and experience. We're focusing on losses here, but if you want to share insights from your winning strategies (if you're profitable), that would be even more interesting to discuss.

In my opinion, smart bettor are those gambler who has great control over their gambling expenses and manage to bet disciplined( take profit and stop loss properly).

You’re correct that it’s very hard to stay profitable in gambling for the long run so the only way to become smart is to limit our losses whenever we play through our self control.

I don’t have specific strategy but I can easily take profit or stop gambling whenever I feel like that I’m not enjoying the game anymore despite I still have balance in the casino.

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April 10, 2025, 02:59:35 PM
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Smart bettor knows his limit and has a self-control regardless of you're winning or losing. What I mean is, losing is inevitable and that's already given in gambling. But a gambler with self-control can manage his emotion to not go beyond the limit.

So IMO, as long as you're a gambler with discipline and able to stop when necessary then you can call yourself a smart bettor.

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April 10, 2025, 03:12:26 PM
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Let's face reality.. most gamblers lose money in the long run. But does that automatically mean we're not smart bettors?

I want to ask:
Do you define a smart bettor as someone who:

1- Minimizes their losses effectively, or
2-Simply stays within their predetermined loss limits?
I think they are considered as smart bettors. Being smart doesnt mean you need to always win and keep winning on such gambling games. Well, minimizing losses means you had the presence to stop at your own will without being consumed and make yourself greedy to keep playing and recovered your losses.

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April 10, 2025, 03:20:08 PM
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I want to ask:
Do you define a smart bettor as someone who:

1- Minimizes their losses effectively, or
2-Simply stays within their predetermined loss limits?

One and two eventually mean the same thing.
As long as you are doing everything to minimize loss and maximize win then you are a smart bettor.
You don't necessarily need to win much when gambling to prove you are smart. Most bettor get huge win ones in a while thinking they are leading the house but in a long run they are actually losing to the house.

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April 10, 2025, 03:48:46 PM
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1- Minimizes their losses effectively, or
2-Simply stays within their predetermined loss limits?
Set a loss limit and always be consistent to stop after getting a loss as previously determined. That's what I do now in casino games, I always limit the loss like a loss of 30% of my budget and at that time I will stop betting.
After that, later in the day I will bet again but usually will bet on a different type of bet and can recover a little from the previous loss. Like betting on sports betting to be able to get a little win that can recover the loss that has been lost. If the loss can recover 20%, I will bet again on casino games.

It's like managing finances in gambling to be able to bet in the long term without having to spend the gambling budget at one time. So this is probably one of the intelligences that I have even though in the end we lose, at least we can save to be able to survive with that budget in one week.

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April 10, 2025, 03:57:11 PM
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The more intelligent you are, the more conscious you get to realize that "smart" does not mean invincible. Especially not here. The assumption that intelligence must correlate with outcome can cause you trouble. It doesn’t. Not in relationships, not in sport betting, not in poker. You can be objectively sharp and still walk away with losses. Because intelligence in probabilistic domains isn’t outcome-based, it’s process-based

Neither 1 nor 2 are mutually exclusive either. Minimizing losses and staying inside predefined limits are both micro-acts of macro-intelligence. Real smart bettors, however, create non-attached systems. They know variance is brutal. They study EV, but they also track mindset. They lose well. That’s rare

The larger problem is ego entanglement. Most people link profit with identity. Smart bettors don’t. They separate the role from the self. They can go on a red month and still claim, "Yeah, I followed my edge." That call was the correct one. That speaks at a high level.

Look, even if you're losing, your process is strong, your risk control is strong, and you know exactly why you are in the game. It's still smarter than 90% of the field tilting away capital just to feel alive. So yes. You may gamble smartly even losing. Just don’t confuse smart with magic

 
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April 10, 2025, 03:57:41 PM
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Let's face reality.. most gamblers lose money in the long run. But does that automatically mean we're not smart bettors?

I want to ask:
Do you define a smart bettor as someone who:

1- Minimizes their losses effectively, or
2-Simply stays within their predetermined loss limits?


Far from it loosing money doesn't necessarily imply that one isn't a smart bettor but how I understand this to be is that, a smart bettor is someone that is able to minimize his losses and take advantage of the different signs they get while betting. Cause alot of bettors tend to go overboard and they don't take control of their habits but a smart one will take note of all of this . So being smart means yuh are able to take caution when you lose and when you win and it doesn't have to affect your well-being or activities.

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Let's face reality.. most gamblers lose money in the long run. But does that automatically mean we're not smart bettors?

I want to ask:
Do you define a smart bettor as someone who:

1- Minimizes their losses effectively, or
2-Simply stays within their predetermined loss limits?

Explain based on your understanding and experience. We're focusing on losses here, but if you want to share insights from your winning strategies (if you're profitable), that would be even more interesting to discuss.
Being a smart gambler or bettor doesn't mean you won't lose your bet while gambling, but rather it simply just means that as a better, you are only effectively able to manage your risks in terms of winning more bets than the ones you lose while gambling. Because the truth of the fact in gambling is that winning is not permanent, and likewise losses. And as such, it is in your ability to be able to make calculative risk with what you can always afford to maximize from profit is one thing that is that will make you stands out among  the masses. Because indeed, A smart bettor is someone who actually minimizes their losses effectively while gambling.

 
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April 10, 2025, 04:28:25 PM
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Let's face reality.. most gamblers lose money in the long run. But does that automatically mean we're not smart bettors?

I want to ask:
Do you define a smart bettor as someone who:

1- Minimizes their losses effectively, or
2-Simply stays within their predetermined loss limits?

If we are going to calculate all the wins a gambler has had against all his losses in the long run, we would realize that the gambler is actually losing more. Losses do not mean that the gambler isn't smart. Real smartness is shown in the gambler's ability to control himself while gambling; no influence from greed, strict budget, and fair gambling limits. He knows how to minimize the risks involved in gambling. Gambling shouldn't impact the financial status of a smart gambler negatively. This is how we know a gambler who is smart and those who are just chasing losses.


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I want to ask:
Do you define a smart bettor as someone who:

1- Minimizes their losses effectively

I do agree that minimizing losses effectively is considered as one of those factors that makes a smart bettor. By minimizing your losses, you necessarily know your limits when it comes to expenditure. You also have self-discipline to the point that you do not chase your losses by betting again.

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2-Simply stays within their predetermined loss limits?

Like what I have also mentioned, this is one of those attributes that make a smart bettor. If you have a predetermined loss limits, this means that you have set a certain maximum of losses that you can afford in a given gambling game. Within those specified limits, betting beyond that amount should be the sign that you should just call it a day and stop from that moment.

 
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This is a tough question to answer honestly. I agree that most of us end up losing in the long run, so even if I can manage my losses well, I don’t think I can call myself a smart bettor.

I’d rather label myself as a disciplined bettor instead, because 'smart' feels like too strong of a word.
It implies consistent positive results, but in reality, my overall profit/loss ratio is still negative.
Yes for me this is not right if you have to say smartly but in gambling maybe it's better how disciplined you are in managing losses in the long run because smart gamblers may not necessarily be profitable all the time.

If I focus on losses - then I will be strict in discipline even though it is a set budget threshold, if I am a smart gambler, I will probably know when I win.
What is clear is that we should never consider ourselves gambling smart, and it is better to be strict in discipline.

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1- Minimizes their losses effectively, or
2-Simply stays within their predetermined loss limits?



Both are reflections of smart gamblers, but option number 2 is smarter I think, because for gamblers who are able to stay within the loss limit that they previously set, they are gamblers who have good risk management and are able to understand their limits. They already know that the possibility of losing is always there in gambling, and they intelligently set their loss limits and remain disciplined to follow them. And that can minimize the risk of excessive gambling and allow their gambling to be healthier in the long run.

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April 10, 2025, 04:44:07 PM
 #38

Let's face reality.. most gamblers lose money in the long run. But does that automatically mean we're not smart bettors?
You only become not smart based on your mindset and how you bet. if you're betting all your money in the hope of profiting, then you're not a smart gambler, but not losing or losing will not make you smart or not smart

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I want to ask:
Do you define a smart bettor as someone who:
1- Minimizes their losses effectively, or
2-Simply stays within their predetermined loss limits?
Number one is hard to predict; you can only try within your capacity. Number two can be a smart thing to do, this is something that you have control over and can do.

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April 10, 2025, 04:49:33 PM
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Let's face reality.. most gamblers lose money in the long run. But does that automatically mean we're not smart bettors?

I want to ask:
Do you define a smart bettor as someone who:

1- Minimizes their losses effectively, or
2-Simply stays within their predetermined loss limits?

Explain based on your understanding and experience. We're focusing on losses here, but if you want to share insights from your winning strategies (if you're profitable), that would be even more interesting to discuss.

If you ask me, we could say that he's a smart gambler but it's more accurate to say that he has control over his gambling. If someone can manage that, it's already a big deal.

In other words, you can't really call yourself a smart gambler if you have no self-control. If you can't stop yourself, then by default, you're not a smart gambler.

I can't share any winning strategies because I haven't experienced using one that actually worked for me. lol Casino always won, we all know that.

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April 10, 2025, 04:50:12 PM
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I consider myself as smart gambler because I can start and stop anytime I wish, no matter when I'm on losing or winning I can decide which one that I think is the best.
Of course there are some time when I forget my own limit due to a reason (mostly greed) but what I do will always under my own control and responsibility.
Being smart gambler is a must so we can minimize the worst possible effect of gambling such as addiction, financial issue or even psychological issue.

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