How will casinos face, Fake AI KYC's verification?

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Firstly, I am sorry if this kinds of discussion already discussed here , but I try to find casino kyc with ai related discussion but couldn't found.

Ok, let me enter the main point.
We all know that Artificial Intelligence has become very powerful nowadays and just as it is being used for good purposes, abusers are also in the ground to abuse it. This abuser has already started committing KYC verification fraud through AI.
Many may say that the Liveness Detection option will be able to detect them, but in this case too I saw that they are skipping it by using Face Injection Attacks and also the others methods.

Now, where I have doubts is that casino sites make kyc verification successful without getting access to the data of the national id of any country. How will they fight or are they fighting with these new methods of AI? So is casino KYC verification currently just for show purposes to get the license? 

[Agbamoni]

This information should be redirected to the casinos because they are the only ones who can stop this from happening.

AI images are easily to recognize if you more attention to details and of course there is an AI tool that can identify if an image is made with AI or not. If [people are using AI to do verification, the casino should give them the test of their medicine too, reject all verifications that uses AI, spot out previous verifications that was passed using AI, ban the accounts while using them to set example to others.

[Oshosondy]

Now, where I have doubts is that casino sites make kyc verification successful without getting access to the data of the national id of any country.

Are you sure? How are you so sure about this? Why requesting for verification if they will not verified directly from the one provided by the government.

How will they fight or are they fighting with these new methods of AI? So is casino KYC verification currently just for show purposes to get the license? 

What I know is that there could be a mistake in a way that fake identity can be passed as verified but I do not think this is common but one to none in a million. But the face identification may not be accepted. Before AI, there were fake identity documents but of which many are not accepted. AI is not even better than those.

[jas0190]

You should probably ask this about various countries and their legal systems, not casinos. Casinos probably don't care and would rather not KYC if they didn't have to so if whatever they do is considered enough to stay in good legal standing it's fine. AI is someone else's problem.

[swogerino]

Some casinos that only ask a government ID or passport and a phone number plus email and residence address can easily be bypassed without the help at AI at all (don't want give ideas but people long enough in the forum get what I am saying here). The AI surely has come great ways especially when you hit a photo, random one and tell them make me a government ID with this name and this photo and AI can make it, though AI as some says won't be able to bypass face verification in live, let me say that a friend of mine working as a developer has written some code to automate tasks with AI and based on this I know the time won't be that far when AI through such automated codes, scripts or whatever will be able to bypass any verification method. Luckily though I tend to believe in the good KYC officers of the casino or any institution that will crosscheck thoroughly after KYC and ban whoever has used AI.

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Now, where I have doubts is that casino sites make kyc verification successful without getting access to the data of the national id of any country.

Are you sure? How are you so sure about this? Why requesting for verification if they will not verify.

Yes I am.
Because I have already seen many people discussing on this forum that even in their country gambling was banned they were able to successfully do kyc verification even on some of the renowned casino's.
The logic here is that if gambling is banned in their country, then of course the government or regulator of that country will not give their National ID data to any casino or platform like this. So, how do they make KYC verification successful? If someone creates a fake NID and submits KYC, then they accept it.

[Oshosondy]

Yes I am.
Because I have already seen many people discussing on this forum that even in their country gambling was banned they were able to successfully do kyc verification even on some of the renowned casino's.
The logic here is that if gambling is banned in their country, then of course the government or regulator of that country will not give their National ID data to any casino or platform like this. So, how do they make KYC verification successful? If someone creates a fake NID and submits KYC, then they accept it.

All I know is that there are resisted countries from the gambling sites terms of service. The countries on the listed will not be able to access the site without the use of VPN and they do display warning with the IP that the person is accessing the site from a restricted country. What you are saying here is new to me. I have tested this on some gambling sites before and they are the same.

[Rruchi man]

How will they fight or are they fighting with these new methods of AI?

As technology has the potential to make it easier for individuals to beat KYC verification, it will not remain a secret; casinos will also be aware of it and will not ignore it.

The same technology will be applied by casinos to make the KYC verification process stricter and more difficult for people to maneuver with AI.

[acroman08]

Ok, let me enter the main point.
We all know that Artificial Intelligence has become very powerful nowadays and just as it is being used for good purposes, abusers are also in the ground to abuse it. This abuser has already started committing KYC verification fraud through AI.
Many may say that the Liveness Detection option will be able to detect them, but in this case too I saw that they are skipping it by using Face Injection Attacks and also the others methods.

Any chance you can share your source? Because if this is true, it seems like a new way to bypass KYC, and I would really like to read about it.

How will they fight or are they fighting with these new methods of AI?

Better security or detection measures? I mean that is the only way to actually counter it(at least as far as I know).

[Mrbluntzy]

Now, where I have doubts is that casino sites make kyc verification successful without getting access to the data of the national id of any country. How will they fight or are they fighting with these new methods of AI? So is casino KYC verification currently just for show purposes to get the license? 

Even without the use of AI, some people uses fake documents and ID's to bypass some KYCs in some platforms, they do so without being detected and I believe that if that would work for them, it probably could also work on some casino, although I have not seen anyone that have uses a false ID to bypass KYC on casino but doing that is risky because if the casino detects it, they will block the person's account and could asked for more documents that bears the person's name. The reason why some casino are also enforcing KYC is to be in compliance with the laws of the authority that gave them license.

[nelson4lov]

A wise man once said:

As a bird learns to fly without perching, the hunter learns how to shoot without missing

As there are AI tools to bypass KYC, there would soon be AI tools to checkmate false KYCs submissions. We were in this situation a few months ago when AI writing became a widespread practice but today, there are dozens of tools to detect and expose such practices.

Technology advancement is always in two-fold—good and bad.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

Ok, let me enter the main point.
We all know that Artificial Intelligence has become very powerful nowadays and just as it is being used for good purposes, abusers are also in the ground to abuse it. This abuser has already started committing KYC verification fraud through AI.
Many may say that the Liveness Detection option will be able to detect them, but in this case too I saw that they are skipping it by using Face Injection Attacks and also the others methods.

Don't forget that just as we have A.I tools to generate fake images, or documents, we also have A.I to detectors to detect if an image was generated by A.I or not. Because the truth of the fact is that no matter how an A.I can be so powerful to generate fake I.D cards for KYC verifications, one thing that is certain is that it can never be the same exactly with the original copies, of which if a casino representative that may have seen several copies of the original ID card from a certain country now sees an A.I generated ID card. That individual will be able to noticed the big difference.
While secondly, with the help of Google search, casinos will now be able to differentiate between a fake ID from a real one.

[Smartvirus]

We all know that Artificial Intelligence has become very powerful nowadays and just as it is being used for good purposes, abusers are also in the ground to abuse it. This abuser has already started committing KYC verification fraud through AI.
Many may say that the Liveness Detection option will be able to detect them, but in this case too I saw that they are skipping it by using Face Injection Attacks and also the others methods.

I haven’t had to think toward this perspective with AI but, it’s definitely something that could have been the case if;

I don’t really know how this licensing is done but, before casinos could use certain documents for KYC verification, there must be a means towards verifying the authenticity of these documents that are used in these verifications. Just the same way they have jurisdiction for operations. AI might be able to reproduce documents that would look authentic but, no way they would be able to put that in a data base that would make it authentic.

[Orpichukwu]

Now, where I have doubts is that casino sites make kyc verification successful without getting access to the data of the national id of any country. How will they fight or are they fighting with these new methods of AI? So is casino KYC verification currently just for show purposes to get the license? 

I do doubt that they don't have access to the national database of most countries, but if they are regulated, they should have access to that data. But then again, even with access to the national database, there is still no complete guarantee that there won't be some kind of impersonators passing KYC.

The thing is just that the more the AI gets advanced for it to be used to pass KYC without detection, that's how the casino will also level up their game to differentiate AI verification from human verification. Just like we already have existing tools detecting both AI text and even the humanised one, which could have been difficult to detect, is being detected.

[Hispo]

Firstly, I am sorry if this kinds of discussion already discussed here , but I try to find casino kyc with ai related discussion but couldn't found.

Ok, let me enter the main point.
We all know that Artificial Intelligence has become very powerful nowadays and just as it is being used for good purposes, abusers are also in the ground to abuse it. This abuser has already started committing KYC verification fraud through AI.
Many may say that the Liveness Detection option will be able to detect them, but in this case too I saw that they are skipping it by using Face Injection Attacks and also the others methods.

Now, where I have doubts is that casino sites make kyc verification successful without getting access to the data of the national id of any country. How will they fight or are they fighting with these new methods of AI? So is casino KYC verification currently just for show purposes to get the license? 

I believe eventually casinos will eventually need to cooperate with governments closer in order to verify the data being submitted to them by their new gamblers, to be honest.
I have seen some of the results of the use of artificial intelligence in the generation of faces and deep fake videos and they are pretty close to reality.
Unfortunately, that is the way this industry is going to take its shape there will be less privacy with the excuse of protecting the identity of people an making money launderers to have a hard time cleaning up their capital.

There are other options which could be less invasive towards privacy in general, but it is likely casino will go all in with the worst options for privacy, since it is convenient for them in the end.

[Cantsay]

Now, where I have doubts is that casino sites make kyc verification successful without getting access to the data of the national id of any country. How will they fight or are they fighting with these new methods of AI? So is casino KYC verification currently just for show purposes to get the license? 

This won’t only affect casinos and the more the effect will be the more serious the issue will be taken and I’m sure that a solution will emerge eventually.

If no other solution is found then gambling sites will have no other choice but to turn to the government for access to the ID information, that way fake IDs will be easily detected and rejected instantly but for now I think the casino KYC system is only working for those who are yet to come in contact with this realistic ai generator

[Reatim]

We all know that Artificial Intelligence has become very powerful nowadays and just as it is being used for good purposes, abusers are also in the ground to abuse it. This abuser has already started committing KYC verification fraud through AI.
Many may say that the Liveness Detection option will be able to detect them, but in this case too I saw that they are skipping it by using Face Injection Attacks and also the others methods.

casinos or platforms are also using advanced biometrics for kyc like live selfie where they analyze microexpressions which could show if it’s ai or not they also have captcha checks where they verify if it really is a person on screen or no

How will they fight or are they fighting with these new methods of AI?

yes they are fighting with ai itself because ai can be used if the one behind it has good intentions

[Fiatless]

I do doubt that they don't have access to the national database of most countries, but if they are regulated, they should have access to that data. But then again, even with access to the national database, there is still no complete guarantee that there won't be some kind of impersonators passing KYC.

The thing is just that the more the AI gets advanced for it to be used to pass KYC without detection, that's how the casino will also level up their game to differentiate AI verification from human verification. Just like we already have existing tools detecting both AI text and even the humanised one, which could have been difficult to detect, is being detected.

Registered casinos should have unhindered access to a country's national identity database. This is because it will help the country to fight money laundering and other financial crimes. It becomes a problem if the casino is not registered or gambling is banned in that jurisdiction ( gamblers use VPN).

There might be no perfect means to dictate these AI-generated IDs, but I guess that casinos will gladly invest massively in research, development and continued upgrading of AI identity detectors. They will always seek more advanced means to identify these fake IDs.

[Orpichukwu]

I do doubt that they don't have access to the national database of most countries, but if they are regulated, they should have access to that data. But then again, even with access to the national database, there is still no complete guarantee that there won't be some kind of impersonators passing KYC.

Registered casinos should have unhindered access to a country's national identity database. This is because it will help the country to fight money laundering and other financial crimes. It becomes a problem if the casino is not registered or gambling is banned in that jurisdiction ( gamblers use VPN).

They should have unlimited access; that does not mean they actually do have it, given that access to the database is not just for the gamblers who register there, but we are talking about the entire citizens identity and privacy, so there could be some temporary access given to casino owners to help them determine which is fake and which one is not.

And for the VPN users, if you are using a VPN to access a KYC-enabled casino, there is no point in that since if you tender a document from a restricted jurisdiction, they will still detect that it's from there unless the person has to gain another identity belonging to the country they divert their IP address to, which could make it a bit believable.

[uneng]

Gamblers can try cheating casinos with AI during verification process, but keep in mind it's a risk they are taking... Imagine if the gambler has just won the jackpot, and in order to withdraw his prize from the platform, he submits fake AI data.

That is the perfect reason for the casino to deny the payment. And there is nothing the gambler can do about it, because he was attempting to cheat the house with false informations.

With that in mind, don't appeal to AI resources in this case. Never! You can be the main prejudiced after all. The same way you can use AI to commit fraud, the service you are trying to cheat may use AI as well to detect the fraud... Or they can simply do data crossing.