How will casinos face, Fake AI KYC's verification?

[batang_bitcoin]

Now, where I have doubts is that casino sites make kyc verification successful without getting access to the data of the national id of any country.

They have to deal with this problem. But they're not dumb of having no way in figuring out to combat this against their own platform. There must be a way for them to have an authenticate way to verify that the user isn't just using an AI generated ID and face/selfie verification. I wouldn't stress out thinking about it since I don't any of it and it is for them to figure this out.

[Churchillvv]

I know casino use some kind of third party sites or something to confirm IDs or KYC but perhaps the AI's seem to have beat the third party by providing almost everything that is required by the third party to make it correct for verification.

KYC's are not for show off, violate any of the rules that requires you to be found, and you will see how much this casino could find you out as long as they have collected some important datas from you through your browsers without your permission.

[btc78]

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Now, where I have doubts is that casino sites make kyc verification successful without getting access to the data of the national id of any country. How will they fight or are they fighting with these new methods of AI? So is casino KYC verification currently just for show purposes to get the license? 

a lot of the kyc verification i see requires people to give in official documents because as you said some kyc verification methods can be fooled by ai now but not with documents i am sure these platforms are finding ways to combat ai but it might be too technical and confidential for them to be telling us their methods

[BitMaxz]

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Now, where I have doubts is that casino sites make kyc verification successful without getting access to the data of the national id of any country. How will they fight or are they fighting with these new methods of AI? So is casino KYC verification currently just for show purposes to get the license? 

a lot of the kyc verification i see requires people to give in official documents because as you said some kyc verification methods can be fooled by ai now but not with documents i am sure these platforms are finding ways to combat ai but it might be too technical and confidential for them to be telling us their methods

Any documents can be fake but I think live selfie can't be fake that's the only way that you can't fake.
That's why sometimes if they detect something suspicious they ask for live selfie which is hard to fake. For me, why would I fake documents if I can gamble in other casino that doesn't require KYC?
I don't know where you live but in my country mostly they don't require KYC to gamble.

[crwth]

This is a great discussion. Know that it could happen and probably is happening now. I’m not sure how the casinos now do their KYC, but it’s essential to ensure they do the proper investigation and procedures with this.

I don’t think it’s pretty hard to detect fake or AI submissions, but it is problematic for smaller casinos or other types of regulation that could be fooled by AI.

[Alphakilo]

How will they fight or are they fighting with these new methods of AI? So is casino KYC verification currently just for show purposes to get the license? 

This are all issues that are emerging as newer and more advanced technologies are being created.

The casino operators are not stupid. They will always be updating their security protocols, checking if it is real people visiting their website or it is AI. They will beef up their security system to check for this fake KYC using AI verification.

If the bad guys can think of it, the casino operators have already done so. I don't think they would not have things in place to detect it, they will.

[TelolettOm]

The KYC system is one of the requirements that sometimes must be met to be able to use the casino platform. and they are online platforms, with all the sophistication of the system and security. and of course, they already understand everything and the possibility of fraud during the KYC process including KYC using fake AI.

it's just that, do the casinos want to apply and implement a system that can counter all of that, because it will certainly require more costs in the security system. and more if they use the services of a particular platform for their KYC filing. so, this will depend on each casino and their way to stop this fake KYC verification with AI.

[stadus]

Casinos no longer handle verification themselves, they partner with specialized companies that use advanced systems to ensure the process meets strict standards. This makes it nearly impossible for fake IDs or AI-generated verifications to pass.

So, there’s nothing to worry about unless you’re playing at a casino with low standards.
In that case, the risk of getting scammed is much higher.

[yahoo62278]

I personally think as long as the casino satisfies their licensor by asking for the kyc that they have done their job. There's no reason IMO to request proof of funds, separate address bs, video chat, or anything else unless flagged by the licensor or whatnot. Yes there are cheaters, but I still think the casino itsself has done it's job before getting too invasive.

As far as AI goes, the cheaters are going to find a way to cheat no matter what they do. Trial n error til they figure out how to beat the system. Somebody is probably already working on some sort of facial recognition system for casinos to use combined with a video call.

[Wexnident]

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Trial and Error I guess? Personally I don't see how to yet except maybe generative AI having meta data inside of it included that it's, well, "generated" by AI (Which should honestly be a thing considering how some of them are pretty realistic already). Personally, I'd say any method to prevent the user from actively uploading a video outside of a recording and stuff would probably a good start, but there's probably going to be some bypass through that as well.

The KYC right now is basically just an initial layer of protection against them, if I were to describe it? I mean, we all know it's for AML purposes. At the level of tech we have though, then I guess it's understandable why it's being questioned, but I reckon unless we see any real events of being bypassed like that, then it's unlikely we're going to see any updates on the progress on how they're going to evolve it to the next level.

[Darker45]

Partly yes, partly no. Partly for show, partly not.

First off, I don't think casinos would bother requiring their users to undergo KYC if they aren't also compelled by the government. Following this, I'd say most casinos are doing this KYC thing mainly for compliance. They impose KYC because they have no choice.

However, since they also undergo audits and failure to comply with regulations would mean fines and other penalties, there's also the part of them implementing it more or less properly. After all, it's their license that's on the line.

[alegotardo]

Firstly, I am sorry if this kinds of discussion already discussed here , but I try to find casino kyc with ai related discussion but couldn't found.

Ok, let me enter the main point.
We all know that Artificial Intelligence has become very powerful nowadays and just as it is being used for good purposes, abusers are also in the ground to abuse it. This abuser has already started committing KYC verification fraud through AI.
Many may say that the Liveness Detection option will be able to detect them, but in this case too I saw that they are skipping it by using Face Injection Attacks and also the others methods.

Now, where I have doubts is that casino sites make kyc verification successful without getting access to the data of the national id of any country. How will they fight or are they fighting with these new methods of AI? So is casino KYC verification currently just for show purposes to get the license? 

Unfortunately, I don’t think casinos will invest much time and money into combating AI-generated KYC fraud because the truth is that KYC verification is more of a regulatory requirement than an effective security measure for them.

I’m sure many casinos are only doing the bare minimum to comply with regulations and aren’t investing much in advanced fraud detection technologies because this is a complex and ever-evolving issue and it’s hard for casinos to stay ahead of fraudsters.

AI is becoming increasingly sophisticated and it’s likely that fraudsters will continue to find ways to bypass KYC verification systems so even if casinos try to implement additional security measures, such as biometric verification or behavioral analysis, these measures also have their limits and can be bypassed.

Even if casinos do try to address this issue in a serious and security-conscious manner by investing in security measures and working with regulators to try to combat fraud, it is likely that KYC fraud will continue to be a persistent problem.

I apologize if this is not the answer you were looking for, but from my perspective this is the most realistic possible.

[Dave1]

Firstly, I am sorry if this kinds of discussion already discussed here , but I try to find casino kyc with ai related discussion but couldn't found.

Ok, let me enter the main point.
We all know that Artificial Intelligence has become very powerful nowadays and just as it is being used for good purposes, abusers are also in the ground to abuse it. This abuser has already started committing KYC verification fraud through AI.
Many may say that the Liveness Detection option will be able to detect them, but in this case too I saw that they are skipping it by using Face Injection Attacks and also the others methods.

Now, where I have doubts is that casino sites make kyc verification successful without getting access to the data of the national id of any country. How will they fight or are they fighting with these new methods of AI? So is casino KYC verification currently just for show purposes to get the license? 

I guess it's more bolder right now, perhaps not just IDs, maybe they will really required someone to be in front of the camera or maybe answer some questions from the casino itself. So it's going to be really a battle for these casinos to stay one step ahead of the AI technologies.

Or maybe casinos will hire more 3rd parties that are more adept in finding what's AI and this companies will have to specialized with their technology to combat it. So still a win win situation for those kind of services and they could be a good niche in the future.

[slaman29]

I don't know about you guys but reading some casino issues with KYC, where people are being asked to take videos, with documents and showing street signs, well I don't think they have to worry about fake AI.

Face recognition matches with database, so the person has to exist, and the document has to exist, at least thats how I was explained.

[Free Market Capitalist]

Ok, let me enter the main point.
We all know that Artificial Intelligence has become very powerful nowadays and just as it is being used for good purposes, abusers are also in the ground to abuse it. This abuser has already started committing KYC verification fraud through AI.
Many may say that the Liveness Detection option will be able to detect them, but in this case too I saw that they are skipping it by using Face Injection Attacks and also the others methods.

Any chance you can share your source? Because if this is true, it seems like a new way to bypass KYC, and I would really like to read about it.

Yes, let's the OP provide a source for what he is saying otherwise this thread is just based on hearsay. But even taking for granted what he says, I think that just as one could supposedly use AI to bypass KYC, so could casinos use AI to detect it, in the same way that AI produces text and there are detectors that check if the text is AI-generated. Although on the other hand, I also believe that as yahoo62278 says, even if they could not detect it they will have fulfilled their obligation by asking for KYC.

[r_victory]

Any serious casino will strive to do a competent job in this regard. Of course, mistakes can happen, but if they are checked carefully, they can be prevented. Nowadays, there are already AI detection tools, after all, it is not only casinos that need to carry out identity checks, banks and other services as well. The criminal may be one step ahead, but they will not be there for long.

Imagine a gambler who has won a big prize, what will he do to withdraw it? It is foolish to want to cheat a company that is specially prepared for cheaters.

[Julien_Olynpic]

As for the use of artificial intelligence and technologies, such as Deep Fake, this is something that will be present in the public sphere in the near future. This technology will make it difficult to verify and counteract KYC. At present, this technology is not yet fully available to everyone and the quality of the video image is often not good enough. But technology is constantly improving. Sooner or later, casinos, bookmakers and banks will have to admit that KYC is more or less pointless, since most of its requirements can be easily circumvented. Perhaps casinos and bookmakers will be forced to become more anonymous, since it will be relatively easy to maintain anonymity.

[Peanutswar]

With the recent take with the AI this could be an interesting discussion, in terms of KYC people submit their documents most likely one ID now if they think this could be an AI they will seek another submission for the KYC documents such as billings and other stuffs to consider that the account is a legit one this could be done manually for sure, and if they found a suspicious activity on the player possible they make a list of the users have this kind of activities. But most of the recent days, people now like to play with the casino, but they do not have a KYC because they are trying to protect themselves.

[Fortify]

Firstly, I am sorry if this kinds of discussion already discussed here , but I try to find casino kyc with ai related discussion but couldn't found.

Ok, let me enter the main point.
We all know that Artificial Intelligence has become very powerful nowadays and just as it is being used for good purposes, abusers are also in the ground to abuse it. This abuser has already started committing KYC verification fraud through AI.
Many may say that the Liveness Detection option will be able to detect them, but in this case too I saw that they are skipping it by using Face Injection Attacks and also the others methods.

Now, where I have doubts is that casino sites make kyc verification successful without getting access to the data of the national id of any country. How will they fight or are they fighting with these new methods of AI? So is casino KYC verification currently just for show purposes to get the license? 

As AI improves, there are always a small amount of criminals who test ways to get around restrictions and casinos will elevate their controls to fight back. If you've ever used one of these new online banks, you'll find that they sometimes ask you to say a phrase and move your head around in the directions it requests. These add a layer of sophistication and assure the person matches the identity document. At the moment casinos do some rather basic checks and it'll take a few fines by regulators who say they are not enforcing KYC before they spend extra money upgrading systems in this area.

[Strongkored]

Now, where I have doubts is that casino sites make kyc verification successful without getting access to the data of the national id of any country. How will they fight or are they fighting with these new methods of AI? So is casino KYC verification currently just for show purposes to get the license? 

Believe me, there is no perfect technology, and so is AI. Maybe there will be someone who can do KYC with AI and successfully deceive the casino, but not everyone who uses AI will successfully pass all the casino's checking steps, because the casino also has a team that masters technology so that the casino itself understands how to prevent players who use AI to do KYC.
And you know there are already casinos that require KYC with national ID or even passport, so the increasing use of AI only increases the steps of casinos to ask for more documents to further convince that their players are real.