@theymos, say your mind about Satoshi's identity

[EluguHcman]

Question from a user I recently referred to this platform.

Here: With all the speculations about the claims of revealing (unsealing) of Satoshi's Nakamoto's identity and the arguments in the forum, why not we just direct this questionable request of Satoshi's identity to Theymos since he is one known users who started this bitcointalk forum together with Satoshi as parent pioneers before platforms the hidden gem?

Who knows if there had been communal connections among them with probabilities to had have clue of each other as they may share same vision in the cryptography on Bitcoin and with his(Theymos) profile and influence in the platform being created by Satoshi himself?

The platform operates on pseudonymous users security identity  from it origin which Theymos may not be privileged to know Satoshi as thought.

With no doubt, even some old folks here may be accommodating  same thought as this questionable discretion for long now. Perhaps it got me a deep thought Which would be better come from the horses mouth.
 
Dear @Theymos Sir, may you clear the air on your own view of Satoshi's identity?
I guess it will come as simple as "No, you don't know Satoshi". 😁.

All being seem silly, my humble apology if the thread may carry disapproval contents to you all.

[Sim_card]

I can contact you via email or social media, anywhere for you to help me build a website without knowing you physically or you prevailing your identity to me, especially when I want it to be anonymous. This is how I believe that Satoshi handed over this forum to Theymos because he should good interest in developing the forum. Do you know your campaign manager identity, but you are working for them. Just my thoughts. We are all anonymous on the internet only when you reveal your identity by using KYC platforms.

[cryptoaddictchie]

You are wasting your time mate. Even Theymos didnt know possibly whose Satoshi is or at least know his real identity. No one has and not ever. Satoshi make sure he leave no traces of him and nothing can know him. I bet his own Family members doesnt even know he is the creator of Bitcoin.

Why so obsessed with that info? As long as you know that he is the creator of bitcoin and founder of this forum thats good enough.

[Outhue]

If you like, find who theymos really is in this world, break few fingers   you still won't get anything, how can you identify someone who doesn't exist? Satoshi could be me, or you or even one of your neighbours.

Problem is many people think that people just wake up one day and beside to do something, for bad people to carry out an attack successfully they need to do their own investigation too, robbers don't brake into homes because they just feel like it, they must have been monitoring the homes first.

For someone to come up with a plan to create Bitcoin, don't you know that they must have taken their time to think over and over again? How it will work and the dangers that comes with it, this whole Bitcoin idea could have been in work for few years, not in the public but in the head.

Nakamoto knew what the world is made of, he knew people will come looking, trying to find him because of what he created, the first decentralised digital currency isn't a joke.

To make it work he needs to become THE UNKNOWN.

[Odusko]

This kind of topic should be avoided for legal purposes, although we exist here anonymously having to question or call out another forum member because of their position in the forum and requesting he either reveal his identity or the identity of another forum member is something that is out of your power, you may be sued for that.

[Zoomic]

What exactly are we going to do once Satoshi's identity is revealed, single him out and give him some VIP treatment for being Satoshi? Ever since I joined this forum, there have been countless discussions about Satoshi's identity, yet we have never arrived at a conclusion on who he truly is.

Do you think if Theymos truly knew who Satoshi is, he would come here and spill an agreement that was made in secret? That would simply be a breach of trust because it is obvious that Satoshi wants to remain anonymous. It is best for us to respect that decision of his. Moreover, if Satoshi's identity is eventually known, it won't change anything about the whole Bitcoin idea.

[_act_]

@EluguHcman, you are not serious at all. It is better you find other topics to post than posting this. It is an insult to theymos and all memebers of this community.

Do you not know if theymos has something to say about Satoshi Nakamoto, you will not be the one to tell him before he will post about it.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

Dear @Theymos Sir <...>

LMAO.

This kind of topic should be avoided for legal purposes, although we exist here anonymously having to question or call out another forum member because of their position in the forum and requesting he either reveal his identity or the identity of another forum member is something that is out of your power, you may be sued for that.

No, there is no legal basis for sueing the OP. On what basis, according to you?

I think theymos allows this thread because he values freedom of speech a lot and also because the thread is going nowhere. I would bet heavily that theymos is not going to intervene in it and that it will simply eventually disappear from the front page of this section because it's just another thread trying to find out Satoshi's identity, which is not going to get anywhere.

[Odusko]

No, there is no legal basis for sueing the OP. On what basis, according to you?

Don't get it twisted mate, I refer to such actions of demanding others' identities in real life, some actually extend such actions beyond this Forum in real life and get into legal trouble, also in the comments I mentioned that we forum members are anonymous which means we have the freedom to speech and privacy, anyways cheer's mate.

[Doan9269]

Dear @Theymos Sir, may you clear the air on your own view of Satoshi's identity?
I guess it will come as simple as "No, you don't know Satoshi". 😁.

If we all can prefer to maintain our privacy and remain anonymous with how we appear here on the forum, i don't think its something useful that we we take it as our business to make findings about who Satoshi is or his relation with theymos that's if there's any, i think the reason for us to all have been here was because of bitcoin, which should be our main priority and we should not accept any means to expose what may be private to us, to me i see this as intruding into someone's privacy, don't expect a response form theymos on this.

[yudi09]

Dear @Theymos Sir, may you clear the air on your own view of Satoshi's identity?
I guess it will come as simple as "No, you don't know Satoshi". 😁.

All being seem silly, my humble apology if the thread may carry disapproval contents to you all.

I think we would be better off being the vanguard in advocating for Satoshi Nakamoto to remain anonymous without his identity being detected.
I don't want to go into having to advocate for him to remain anonymous because we have the answer.

I don't think this is ridiculous because here we have the freedom to say anything as long as it doesn't deviate from what is not allowed.

[Joy- maker]

Question from a user I recently referred to this platform.

Here: With all the speculations about the claims of revealing (unsealing) of Satoshi's Nakamoto's identity and the arguments in the forum, why not we just direct this questionable request of Satoshi's identity to Theymos since he is one known users who started this bitcointalk forum together with Satoshi as parent pioneers before platforms the hidden gem?

Who knows if there had been communal connections among them with probabilities to had have clue of each other as they may share same vision in the cryptography on Bitcoin and with his(Theymos) profile and influence in the platform being created by Satoshi himself?

The platform operates on pseudonymous users security identity  from it origin which Theymos may not be privileged to know Satoshi as thought.

With no doubt, even some old folks here may be accommodating  same thought as this questionable discretion for long now. Perhaps it got me a deep thought Which would be better come from the horses mouth.
 
Dear @Theymos Sir, may you clear the air on your own view of Satoshi's identity?
I guess it will come as simple as "No, you don't know Satoshi". 😁.

All being seem silly, my humble apology if the thread may carry disapproval contents to you all.

I know a lot of people out there are eager to know the real identity of Satoshi Nakamoto not only members of this forum and many threads has being created concerning the real identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, but in my opinion I we say is that is high time people stop this madness of creating threads and providing  unnecessary proves about the real identity of Satoshi Nakamoto and members of this forum should also stop asking @theymos such ridiculous questions about the real identity of Satoshi Nakamoto, just like this one above because the question is ridiculous.

[hugeblack]

After all these years, it's best to respect Satoshi's privacy. If s/he ever wants to return, s/he can simply sign a message from one of the addresses s/he used. Theymos may know additional information about Satoshi that isn't publicly available (such as PM messages), but it's best to respect others' privacy

[Obim34]

Probably Theymos on this.

Same way we try to identify who God is, he is who he is, Satoshi is who he is, we can keep dragging the questions for years and still not be able to paint any picture of them.

[nakamura12]

There's an obvious reason why SN didn't reveal his identity and one of it In my opinion would be having privacy or being anonymous . Before, theymos is just a forum member until theymos became the admin of this forum and even right now is that some people even got into legal trouble because they created their own cryptocurreny or similar situation.

After all these years, it's best to respect Satoshi's privacy. If s/he ever wants to return, s/he can simply sign a message from one of the addresses s/he used. Theymos may know additional information about Satoshi that isn't publicly available (such as PM messages), but it's best to respect others' privacy

Respecting someone's privacy would be a better choice to make because no matter how a person do to discover Satoshi Nakamoto's identity is that the person who did it won't be able to do it in my opinion.

[bitmover]

After all these years, it's best to respect Satoshi's privacy. If s/he ever wants to return, s/he can simply sign a message from one of the addresses s/he used. Theymos may know additional information about Satoshi that isn't publicly available (such as PM messages), but it's best to respect others' privacy

Revealing satoshi's identity would harm the ecosystem so much.

It would probably even hurt satoshi, who would become one of the richest people in the world, a celebrity but also a target for authorities.

I hope he never reveals himself. he is probably already very rich, but out of the radar

[Ambatman]

I see no use and no positives in knowing satoshi identity
Isn't it high time we let this all rest
He went under the radar for a reason and I believe the least we can do is respect that.
And even if Theymos has any information
Do you think he would share now when he hasnt in Years?

Satoshi Nakamoto is Satoshi Nakamoto creator of a revolution. Bitcoin.

[EluguHcman]

Dear @Theymos Sir <...>

LMAO.

This kind of topic should be avoided for legal purposes, although we exist here anonymously having to question or call out another forum member because of their position in the forum and requesting he either reveal his identity or the identity of another forum member is something that is out of your power, you may be sued for that.

No, there is no legal basis for sueing the OP. On what basis, according to you?

I think theymos allows this thread because he values freedom of speech a lot and also because the thread is going nowhere. I would bet heavily that theymos is not going to intervene in it and that it will simply eventually disappear from the front page of this section because it's just another thread trying to find out Satoshi's identity, which is not going to get anywhere.

Funny enough I choosed Bitcoin due to it decentralization and anonymity.

And interestingly, this forum has as well been a most dominance Bitcoin and crypto discussion platform due to the fact users identities can be hold pseudonymously for security reasons not just to risk our funds but also staying unknown from the public in the case of regulationss regarding it governing resistance and the governments concerns over potential influence.

I find myself comfortable here with all due security layouts which either non of you would be able to identify me neither would I be able to know who you are even while here in the community.
I don't mean to be curious about Theymos or even Satoshi's revealing of their identities because, it would be a compromise of the most alluring potential of the DeFi technology which is users privacies.

Already, it is being admitted that Theymos does not have knowledge of who Satoshi may be.
His earlier being in the forum as part of the parent pioneers is as his dedication and vision that the forum would become a resourceful and informative platform in the future on the horizon of cryptography with his consistency and efforts in the forum which likewise we are all getting all the hands on deck here as it is today.

I don't mean to propel a pointing fingers on Theymos rather I only make this as expression of what users in the platform may possibly think which the simple response of Theymos would be as simple as "Hell No" I don't know Satoshi". which in the case of our identity here too as individuals do also are anonymous.
So I just think it is ridiculous to think Theymos is up to the hell of knowing who Satoshi.

Disclaimer: This post does not signify breach of Privacies or trusts and so, if the discussion keep going sideways then I will think of locking it and If there is need to take it down too, let the needful be done.

[Felicity_Tide]

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Revealing satoshi's identity would harm the ecosystem so much.

It would probably even hurt satoshi, who would become one of the richest people in the world, a celebrity but also a target for authorities.

I hope he never reveals himself. he is probably already very rich, but out of the radar

Let me start by saying, the forum has been existing for more than I know now, and thousands (if not up to a million, not sure) of threads have been created. I want to believe that more than a thousand threads have been created before now about this same topic, and theymos must have shared what he knows. I'm not against the OP creating the thread, but why create a thread that has likely been discussed countless times.

How do we expect someone to keep answering the same question over and over again. If theymos doesn't know, then I believe he must have stated it in countless threads as well.

And I also agree with you that revealing his identity will compromise alot of things. The world is full of mysteries and unsolved puzzles. This one might just be one of them, so the earlier we move on, the better for everyone.

[suzanne5223]

Question from a user I recently referred to this platform.

Here: With all the speculations about the claims of revealing (unsealing) of Satoshi's Nakamoto's identity and the arguments in the forum, why not we just direct this questionable request of Satoshi's identity to Theymos since he is one known users who started this bitcointalk forum together with Satoshi as parent pioneers before platforms the hidden gem?

I don't think Theymos will have the time to reply to the issue involving Satoshi's identity because a lot of discussion was made on this forum about it years ago, and Theymos has said his side of the story. Besides, there was a time a member of this forum told Theymos to reveal the Satoshi inbox and outbox messages on this forum. What Theymos said is that he has no intention of doing that based on the respect that the forum has for people's privacy, and I agree with that because there's no benefit we are going to get from knowing Satoshi's identity. Besides, a lot of organizations will use Satoshi's identity against the ecosystem if they know.

An example

Are all of the interviews in the trailer original? I got the feeling that several of them were interviews I saw many years ago, though I could be wrong.

My current feeling on Satoshi's identity is:
 - Sassaman is a very bad candidate. If this is their conclusion, then they totally failed to do proper research.
 - 50% chance it's someone nobody's ever heard of, and nobody will ever figure it out
 - 35% chance it's Hal Finney. (Over time, I've moved more probability into this category.)
 - 10% chance it's someone else in the Bitcoin-verse
 - 5% chance it's a group within the CIA

But I'm really not a fan of the whole "search for Satoshi" genre. Being anonymous, Satoshi is an excellent myth and source of inspiration, since we can't see much of his flawed humanity. Mythical-Satoshi is a humble man who, with a lot of persistence and skill, but not with a level of brilliance beyond the reach of us mortals, single-handedly created a clockwork device so powerful that it shook the world. And then, in an action which nobody in the traditional halls of power would ever take, he had the wisdom to walk away: a modern Cincinnatus. I like that myth very much, and I'd rather it not be tainted by association with an actual human.

Who knows if there had been communal connections among them with probabilities to had have clue of each other as they may share same vision in the cryptography on Bitcoin and with his(Theymos) profile and influence in the platform being created by Satoshi himself?

Sort of, but based on what he said, they always contacted themselves through emails, and I believe you should know this is possible in the crypto space, where a client you don't know in the real world gives you a job, and once it is executed, you get paid.

I never used my real name in emails to Satoshi, and Satoshi never called be my my real name.