freedomgo (OP)
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Bitcoin’s price and adoption go hand in hand. without growing adoption, we shouldn’t expect sustained price increases. After all, demand (and thus price) is a reflection of real-world usage. But here’s the challenge: Bitcoin can’t compete with fiat for everyday transactions yet. So how do we bridge that gap?
When we see Bitcoin’s price surge, it begs the questio... Will it remain just a speculative asset? If so, that makes it a risky long-term hold, especially if adoption stalls. Worse, if whales and corporations dominate supply, they could manipulate the market, turning Bitcoin into a game for the wealthy rather than the many. That would defeat its purpose entirely.
So if someone doubts Bitcoin’s future over these concerns, how do you convince them it’s here to stay and grow?
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Charles-Tim
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April 16, 2025, 11:56:06 PM |
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The fiat will depreciate more in price which will make the price of bitcoin to increase. Another is that the wealth in the world is increasing, which will make more money goes into buying bitcoin.
There could be a time the price may not really be volatile but bitcoin will still remain an appreciative asset in long term.
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lionheart78
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Bitcoin’s price and adoption go hand in hand. without growing adoption, we shouldn’t expect sustained price increases. After all, demand (and thus price) is a reflection of real-world usage. But here’s the challenge: Bitcoin can’t compete with fiat for everyday transactions yet. So how do we bridge that gap?
When we see Bitcoin’s price surge, it begs the questio... Will it remain just a speculative asset? If so, that makes it a risky long-term hold, especially if adoption stalls. Worse, if whales and corporations dominate supply, they could manipulate the market, turning Bitcoin into a game for the wealthy rather than the many. That would defeat its purpose entirely.
So if someone doubts Bitcoin’s future over these concerns, how do you convince them it’s here to stay and grow?
Before doing anything, first we should think... 1. Is technology here to stay or destined to be outdated by new technology? 2. Are we certain that Bitcoin won't become obsolete? 3. Can we take responsibility if all the things we said to convince the person fail? For me, it is not wise to convince a person if we ourselves are not sure what will happen to the Bitcoin ecosystem in the future. I think it is better to let the person decide and see for himself what Bitcoin is by providing him with essential links on information about Bitcoin. Let the person conclude for himself, stay neutral, and only provide information. Whether he will be convinced or not, let the facts speak. There is a need for adoption for any technology or implementation to thrive. After all, no matter how great the invention/creation is, if there are no people to use it, it will eventually stay in one corner and will be forgotten.
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notocactus
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April 17, 2025, 12:59:42 AM |
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Bitcoin’s price and adoption go hand in hand. without growing adoption, we shouldn’t expect sustained price increases. After all, demand (and thus price) is a reflection of real-world usage. But here’s the challenge: Bitcoin can’t compete with fiat for everyday transactions yet. So how do we bridge that gap?
Price is consequence of value and value comes from use cases and utilities of Bitcoin that includes its blockchain security as well. Price is zero if value is zero and you can see this fact with altcoins that can be very high in short term but in long term after a scam trend gone, shitcoins' prices will return to zero as should be. Bitcoin success comes with mass adoption and without it, there will be no success like what we witness in 2025. The Bitcoin founder Satoshi Nakamoto imagined about this future many years ago, he is like a time traveller. Right. Otherwise we couldn't have a finite limit of 21 million coins, because there would always need to be some minimum reward for generating. In a few decades when the reward gets too small, the transaction fee will become the main compensation for nodes. I'm sure that in 20 years there will either be very large transaction volume or no volume.
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April 17, 2025, 01:32:43 AM |
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Bitcoin’s future doesn’t hinge on mass adoption in the way most people think. It’s not about everyone buying coffee with it tomorrow. That’s a convenience layer problem. It’s monetary sovereignty. And people don’t adopt values overnight; they adopt out of necessity, not novelty. So does something need to be universally used to be fundamentally true or valuable? Gold has almost zero daily retail use. But it’s respected because of what it represents, not because you buy lunch with it. Bitcoin functions similarly.
Let’s say only 10% of the world adopts Bitcoin. But if that 10% includes regions facing high inflation, capital controls, collapsing currencies? That’s enough. It doesn’t need 8 billion users. It needs strategic, sovereign demand and it already has it. Argentina. Nigeria. Venezuala.
Now the fear around whales is legit. But fiat has whales too. Central banks are the whales. Bitcoin is just making that visible and opt-in. The wealth concentration in BTC is a mirror, not a malfunction. So the question becomes: do we want transparency with a chance to opt-out of the rigged fiat game or keep playing a game where the rules are hidden?
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Bitcoin can’t compete with fiat for everyday transactions yet. So how do we bridge that gap? Well, I don't think it's necessary that Bitcoin must compete with Fiat. Bitcoin is being used by many people across the world, it is used as a means of pair to pair transaction and have made across borders transactions more seamless compared to the Fiat system. Can anything beat the fact that Bitcoin transaction across bothers is more seamless than Fiat? The growth of Bitcoin is limitless. When we see Bitcoin’s price surge, it begs the questio... Will it remain just a speculative asset? If so, that makes it a risky long-term hold, especially if adoption stalls. Worse, if whales and corporations dominate supply, they could manipulate the market, turning Bitcoin into a game for the wealthy rather than the many. That would defeat its purpose entirely. On the long run, Bitcoin can not still become a game for the rich because the rich can not be the only people to own Bitcoin, it's not possible. Am not saying that there are not going to be Bitcoin whales, some minor market manipulation but even if there's some minor manipulation, it would not keep Bitcoin price stable, after a minor shift in the market, the price will still normalize. Bitcoin is a volatile asset, price can not be completely controlled by a few rich people. So if someone doubts Bitcoin’s future over these concerns, how do you convince them it’s here to stay and grow? I don't think it's that necessary to convince anyone on that. Who convinced you? I assume you practically learned the way the system is programmed and you did your research well and was able to feel convinced, so other should.
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April 17, 2025, 04:02:54 AM |
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When we see Bitcoin’s price surge, it begs the questio... Will it remain just a speculative asset? If so, that makes it a risky long-term hold, especially if adoption stalls. Worse, if whales and corporations dominate supply, they could manipulate the market, turning Bitcoin into a game for the wealthy rather than the many. That would defeat its purpose entirely.
So if someone doubts Bitcoin’s future over these concerns, how do you convince them it’s here to stay and grow?
Fiat currencies have always had problems and have no power to withstand inflation or recession, and this is exacerbated when an economic crisis occurs, so people will lose the value of the currency they have. Bitcoin has resilience and resembles the movement of gold and in conditions of economic chaos, people will definitely look for solutions to secure the value of the currency they have. This belief can be a reference for why bitcoin can be the best choice even with the reasons for adoption as you are worried about. Bitcoin will always be a valuable asset in the long term, even if it is not as volatile as it is now, and we can find that reason in how bitcoin plays a role in conditions of economic chaos.
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April 17, 2025, 06:06:11 AM |
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Bitcoin's uniqueness comes from its volatility as well.
If it didn't change in value, what would it be? Not as many people would be going for it (honestly).
As well as.. BTC is an alternative. Not Fiat killer, as many outlined already.
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April 17, 2025, 08:06:09 AM |
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Bitcoin can’t compete with fiat for everyday transactions yet. So how do we bridge that gap?
Bitcoin will never kick fiat out of usage because fiat is government money and government controls the world and increase inflation by printing more money. Satoshi never created bitcoin to take over from fiat but as an alternative payment to fiat like gold. Bitcoin is resistant to censorship and institutional control which will make more people adopt bitcoin, and that will make the price of bitcoin to increase overtime. However, only 1% of the world have adopted bitcoin, what do you think will be the price of bitcoin if 20% of the world adopts bitcoin. Bitcoin price will go to the moon.
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April 17, 2025, 08:15:35 AM |
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Bitcoin’s price and adoption go hand in hand. without growing adoption, we shouldn’t expect sustained price increases. After all, demand (and thus price) is a reflection of real-world usage. But here’s the challenge: Bitcoin can’t compete with fiat for everyday transactions yet. So how do we bridge that gap?
Depending on where the demand will come from, it we say that it will come from average joe and then we can used it as sound money and for everyday transaction, then Bitcoin might be adopted. When we see Bitcoin’s price surge, it begs the questio... Will it remain just a speculative asset? If so, that makes it a risky long-term hold, especially if adoption stalls. Worse, if whales and corporations dominate supply, they could manipulate the market, turning Bitcoin into a game for the wealthy rather than the many. That would defeat its purpose entirely.
I think it will remain a speculative asset, or be a store of value, or hedge, again it's up to us whether what we want to do with Bitcoin itself. But for now, it's really the asset and everyone is here to make more money and to profit. Just simply but and HODL for a long term.
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Bitcoin’s price and adoption go hand in hand. without growing adoption, we shouldn’t expect sustained price increases. After all, demand (and thus price) is a reflection of real-world usage. But here’s the challenge: Bitcoin can’t compete with fiat for everyday transactions yet. So how do we bridge that gap?
When we see Bitcoin’s price surge, it begs the questio... Will it remain just a speculative asset? If so, that makes it a risky long-term hold, especially if adoption stalls. Worse, if whales and corporations dominate supply, they could manipulate the market, turning Bitcoin into a game for the wealthy rather than the many. That would defeat its purpose entirely.
So if someone doubts Bitcoin’s future over these concerns, how do you convince them it’s here to stay and grow?
I don't have to convince them to stay, the market will speak for itself so that they're going to see how valuable Bitcoin is. While everything that adds up to contribute for its value is very well needed. They will also won't leave the ride until they are able to capitalize whatever they have to join here. And as for Bitcoin if it will remain as a speculative, yeah I think so but it won't only be a speculative asset because the time is already coming that many considers it as a means of transfer especially the new ones but for us, we already knew it from the beginning.
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April 17, 2025, 08:44:36 AM |
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I don’t think so. We need to able to use btc to purchase stuff. Yes trading is also part of the adoption but it is not enough. If nobody uses btc to buy stuff then it is no different than another stock in the stock market. Btc will lose a good portion of its intrinsic value if nobody uses btc to buy stuff. It will get closer to a Ponzi scheme.
Why do people people buy and store gold? Because it has a real world use. People use it to make electronics, jewelry… It is not just a shiny metal.
Btc also has a very unique intrinsic property. It is the most secure crypto network which we use to transact money on. If people abandon using btc, then it is just another crypto.
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April 17, 2025, 08:53:54 AM |
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I think no. Bitcoin needs mass adoption because the more people own and invest in Bitcoin, the stronger Bitcoin is. Someone might attack the network or doing double spend because cost of doing double spend is cheaper/affordable, making people think Bitcoin is no longer secure. However, only 1% of the world have adopted bitcoin, what do you think will be the price of bitcoin if 20% of the world adopts bitcoin. Bitcoin price will go to the moon.
Define world, in this article, they said ETFs, governments, and MicroStrategy now hold 31% of all Bitcoin supply.
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Bitcoin’s price and adoption go hand in hand. without growing adoption, we shouldn’t expect sustained price increases. After all, demand (and thus price) is a reflection of real-world usage. But here’s the challenge: Bitcoin can’t compete with fiat for everyday transactions yet. So how do we bridge that gap? The thing is though that bitcoin is not exactly looking to compete with fiat. It is its own currency and does not need to be compared to fiat because fiat will always be used for everyday transactions by a country or several. Bitcoin is for those who wants to make transactions with their privacy secured or maybe if they will be making big transactions and not wanting to wait for a long time for bank processes and such. Point is they have different purposes. When we see Bitcoin’s price surge, it begs the questio... Will it remain just a speculative asset? If so, that makes it a risky long-term hold, especially if adoption stalls. Bitcoin is safer as a long term hold because it has a fixed supply. It is almost guaranteed that it will keep growing in value due to its scarcity. So if someone doubts Bitcoin’s future over these concerns, how do you convince them it’s here to stay and grow?
It is not my responsibility to do that but the simple answer is that several countries are also legalizing bitcoin and looking for ways to use bitcoin. Adoption may not yet be fully completed but it is starting. Many countries are looking to add bitcoin into their reserves as well. This is one example out of many politicians considering it: blockworks.co/news/brazil-bill-for-national-bitcoin-reserve
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April 17, 2025, 09:28:02 AM |
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Bitcoin’s price and adoption go hand in hand. without growing adoption, we shouldn’t expect sustained price increases. After all, demand (and thus price) is a reflection of real-world usage. But here’s the challenge: Bitcoin can’t compete with fiat for everyday transactions yet. So how do we bridge that gap? So if someone doubts Bitcoin’s future over these concerns, how do you convince them it’s here to stay and grow?
You have a good point, it's just like: can grass grow without water? That's not possible. Honestly, Bitcoin adoption in the future may be more shaky than people think. I see more resistance over time. Especially the time that the crypto scam is now deterring people. CBEX was the latest in Nigeria, and over 1.3 trillion Naira was scammed in the name of crypto. Of course, Bitcoin itself is innocent in this, but do you think many scammed victims would listen again? Also, the way Bitcoin is having its major bearish season is another problem, if it continues like this, only those experienced people and those with true minds and understanding will be investing in it. Perhaps, the institution's leverage will be the sustainability of the coin by then.
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April 17, 2025, 09:28:08 AM |
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Bitcoin needs mass adoption because the more people own and invest in Bitcoin, the stronger Bitcoin is. Someone might attack the network or doing double spend because cost of doing double spend is cheaper/affordable, making people think Bitcoin is no longer secure.
I do not see how this is related to the question OP asked. OP did not ask anything about double spending. Another thing is that if a transaction has been confirmed already on the blockchain, double spending the coin is costly to do and you are referring to 51% attack if this is done intentionally and not chain reorg. Microstrategy bitcoin is not belonging to a single person. Also ETFs is not belonging to a single person but owned by people that are buying its shares.
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April 17, 2025, 09:32:26 AM |
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It is true that for its price to keep going up more people need to use it for real things not just guessing its price. Right now it is not easy to use Bitcoin for everyday shopping like regular money. That is big problem. Bitcoin like safe place to keep money it can protect against prices going up in some places and it is way to send money across borders without anyone stopping it especially in countries where usual money system is not good. And technology behind Bitcoin is getting better. Like we can see there is Lightning Network that is trying to make small payments faster. It is still worked on but it could help Bitcoin be used for everyday things in future. And one more thing not everyone needs to use Bitcoin for small things. Big companies and banks are starting to see Bitcoin as real thing to invest in. This brings a lot of money and making Bitcoin popular. Finally basic ideas behind Bitcoin are special. It is not controlled by governments and there is only limited amount of it. In world where governments can just print more money Bitcoin limited amount and independence make it appealing to people who want another option. So even though there are problems Bitcoin is still developing it is being used in important ways big companies are getting involved and its basic ideas are strong. This is showing that Bitcoin is not just passing trend but it can change our mind that how we think about money.
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April 17, 2025, 09:37:23 AM |
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Microstrategy bitcoin is not belonging to a single person. Also ETFs is not belonging to a single person but owned by people that are buying its shares.
Agreed. It's still not anticipated that there would be a scenario of sorts where 51% attack would even come to action. Because, clearly, there is no contestant such as that to be able to do so.
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April 17, 2025, 09:42:27 AM |
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Will it remain just a speculative asset?
To begin with, I don't agree with the “just.” It is rather the best asset. Besides, do you think it's not enough? When bitcoin started, nobody knew whether it would succeed or not. It could have disappeared like in 2011 and look where it has gone. If so, that makes it a risky long-term hold, especially if adoption stalls. Worse, if whales and corporations dominate supply, they could manipulate the market, turning Bitcoin into a game for the wealthy rather than the many. That would defeat its purpose entirely.
You had more than 10 years to buy bitcoin very cheaply. If you had bought hundreds or thousands then you could now sell it to corporations or whoever for a fortune. So if someone doubts Bitcoin’s future over these concerns, how do you convince them it’s here to stay and grow?
I don't.
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April 17, 2025, 10:08:19 AM |
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Bitcoin’s price and adoption go hand in hand. without growing adoption, we shouldn’t expect sustained price increases. After all, demand (and thus price) is a reflection of real-world usage. But here’s the challenge: Bitcoin can’t compete with fiat for everyday transactions yet. So how do we bridge that gap?
Who says that BTC should compete with fiat in anything? In some imaginary scenario where a lot of people would start using BTC for daily on-chain transactions, this would, as always, create pressure on the mempool and transactions would become too expensive - but that's why we have LN which enables instant and super cheap transactions. When we see Bitcoin’s price surge, it begs the questio... Will it remain just a speculative asset? If so, that makes it a risky long-term hold, especially if adoption stalls. Worse, if whales and corporations dominate supply, they could manipulate the market, turning Bitcoin into a game for the wealthy rather than the many. That would defeat its purpose entirely.
So far, long-term investing in BTC has definitely paid off, for some less, for others more - and no one will say that there is no risk in it, but not only because of volatility, but also because of the security aspect. If you're an investor who keeps your coins on a centralized crypto exchange, or in a hot wallet - or behaves irresponsibly when it comes to online security, then you have much bigger problems than volatility. As for the manipulation of the wealthy, it seems to me that this game has been going on for years, but there's nothing we can do about it. The only thing we could do was to get ahead of them by buying most of the BTC in the early days and refusing to sell to them today - but the problem is that few people will turn down something like $100k for 1 BTC, right? So if someone doubts Bitcoin’s future over these concerns, how do you convince them it’s here to stay and grow?
Why do you think you, I, or anyone else should convince someone to believe in something or not to believe? If someone is not sure if BTC can survive, grow and whatnot, I suggest you don't play financial advisor in an attempt to convince them of something. I have a very simple answer/message for those people - wait another 15 years and you will resolve some of your doubts.
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