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April 21, 2025, 04:23:02 PM
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Chavez Jr. record is only good in his early years of his boxing career, but he faded in the last five years; his loss to Silva marked the lowest point of his boxing career. If Anderson Silva can beat Chavez Jr. why not Jake Paul? This will be a good fight if Chavez Jr. can only bring back his old glory days.
It's going to be a big humiliation to his father's legacy if he loses the fight via knockout. Since Jake Paul is fighting a professional boxer, which I believe is still license, the world governing body should honor this fight where the winner will increase his ranking.
Well, we don't who is gonna win this fight Jake paul last fight is Mike Tyson a pro boxer but old look at the age gap between Paul and Mike it's 31yrs gap.
Right now Chavez Jr. is 39yrs old he is still young 11yrs gap with Paul.

So for me, based on the statistic I still going to bet with Chavez Jr. if he gonna lose this fight he will surely be embarrassed in front of his father but I believe he will win this fight.

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April 21, 2025, 04:26:04 PM
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Chavez Jr. record is only good in his early years of his boxing career, but he faded in the last five years; his loss to Silva marked the lowest point of his boxing career. If Anderson Silva can beat Chavez Jr. why not Jake Paul? This will be a good fight if Chavez Jr. can only bring back his old glory days.
It's going to be a big humiliation to his father's legacy if he loses the fight via knockout. Since Jake Paul is fighting a professional boxer, which I believe is still license, the world governing body should honor this fight where the winner will increase his ranking.
Well, we don't who is gonna win this fight Jake paul last fight is Mike Tyson a pro boxer but old look at the age gap between Paul and Mike it's 31yrs gap.
Right now Chavez Jr. is 39yrs old he is still young 11yrs gap with Paul.

So for me, based on the statistic I still going to bet with Chavez Jr. if he gonna lose this fight he will surely be embarrassed in front of his father but I believe he will win this fight.

If Chavez Jr will get back in shape and will have serious preparation, I believe, he can easily beat Jake Paul. For now, maybe Paul is banking from the fact that Chavez Jr has a lot to catch up in terms of conditioning himself to be ready inside the ring. It will only be few months of preparation so Chavez Jr should be serious enough for this match. Otherwise, they are just looking for their purse split at the end of the day. And that for sure will happen in this match.

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April 21, 2025, 10:17:05 PM
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After having some time to think about this and look over the state of Julio Cesar Chavez Jr, I think I’ll be putting my money on Jake Paul. Not because I think he is a better fighter, but because I don’t believe that Julio Cesar Chavez Jr has punched someone in the last nine years while I think Jake does it all day ever day.

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April 21, 2025, 10:20:18 PM
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Chavez Jr. record is only good in his early years of his boxing career, but he faded in the last five years; his loss to Silva marked the lowest point of his boxing career. If Anderson Silva can beat Chavez Jr. why not Jake Paul? This will be a good fight if Chavez Jr. can only bring back his old glory days.
It's going to be a big humiliation to his father's legacy if he loses the fight via knockout. Since Jake Paul is fighting a professional boxer, which I believe is still license, the world governing body should honor this fight where the winner will increase his ranking.
Well, we don't who is gonna win this fight Jake paul last fight is Mike Tyson a pro boxer but old look at the age gap between Paul and Mike it's 31yrs gap.
Right now Chavez Jr. is 39yrs old he is still young 11yrs gap with Paul.

So for me, based on the statistic I still going to bet with Chavez Jr. if he gonna lose this fight he will surely be embarrassed in front of his father but I believe he will win this fight.

If Chavez Jr will get back in shape and will have serious preparation, I believe, he can easily beat Jake Paul. For now, maybe Paul is banking from the fact that Chavez Jr has a lot to catch up in terms of conditioning himself to be ready inside the ring. It will only be few months of preparation so Chavez Jr should be serious enough for this match. Otherwise, they are just looking for their purse split at the end of the day. And that for sure will happen in this match.

This is just for exhibition match and so this is easy money for him win or lose. And we all know that kind of mindset Jr has and he also falter during big fights throughout his career. So I doubt that he will go back in shape and prepare seriously in this fight.

Paul is banking that Chaver Jr has the last name to attract and then he is a a wash up fighter already. That's the two criteria that Jake Paul is looking to fight so that he will win it and then continue to look for more of this type of fights for his fans and obviously to make more money.

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April 21, 2025, 10:30:17 PM
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After having some time to think about this and look over the state of Julio Cesar Chavez Jr, I think I’ll be putting my money on Jake Paul. Not because I think he is a better fighter, but because I don’t believe that Julio Cesar Chavez Jr has punched someone in the last nine years while I think Jake does it all day ever day.

Just imagine a fragile Anderson Silva beating a boxer like Julio Cesar Chavez Jr in a boxing match. So it's very hard to put money on him. And besides, we have seen Jake Paul fighting Mike and winning that as well.

If somewhat Jake established a good boxing career, then come out of his retirement to fight Jake Paul then maybe we can say that he has a good chance to have a upset win. But Chavez Jr, didn't inherit any of his legendary father's trait in boxing. He is just a regular having that last name but he didn't carry the legacy. He might have save a lot of money in his boxing career and this could have help him survived in this life.

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April 21, 2025, 10:43:24 PM
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Jake Paul has announced his return to the ring and the opponent will be none other than former middleweight world champion Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. This is honestly nothing more than another money grab fight. Chavez has recently been in jail, rehab treatment, and a psych hospital. He has not looked good in about a decade and he lost to an old Anderson Silva, who Jake Paul beat in a wide unanimous decision.



Thank you for that introductory paragraph because I am not too deep into boxing, but I have been wondering for some time now how these Paul brothers get these deals done despite fighting inferior fighters all the time. I can only remember some figures from the past when boxers made like $20 million or something per fight? When these guys get their fights streamed on Netflix and have pay per view contracts, this Jake Paul guy is making so much money.

When you said "none other than", I was hoping that he finally has a worthy opponent. But then you add that important of information I would have now looked up myself. Is it still worth watching it? I am afraid your last piece of info gives the answer to that, but then it is still confusing how they sign these mind blowing contracts with broadcasters.

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April 21, 2025, 11:15:08 PM
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Chavez Jr. record is only good in his early years of his boxing career, but he faded in the last five years; his loss to Silva marked the lowest point of his boxing career. If Anderson Silva can beat Chavez Jr. why not Jake Paul? This will be a good fight if Chavez Jr. can only bring back his old glory days.
It's going to be a big humiliation to his father's legacy if he loses the fight via knockout. Since Jake Paul is fighting a professional boxer, which I believe is still license, the world governing body should honor this fight where the winner will increase his ranking.
Well, we don't who is gonna win this fight Jake paul last fight is Mike Tyson a pro boxer but old look at the age gap between Paul and Mike it's 31yrs gap.
Right now Chavez Jr. is 39yrs old he is still young 11yrs gap with Paul.

So for me, based on the statistic I still going to bet with Chavez Jr. if he gonna lose this fight he will surely be embarrassed in front of his father but I believe he will win this fight.

Tyson is ill and provably out of shape so somehow that give good indication that Paul will win in that fight.

But this fight I doubt Paul can easily pull a win not unless he would pay lots of money to Chavez camp to turn the favor to them. But to if this is clean fight provably that Paul will get a hard time beating Chavez Jr since he have more experience and still a solid fighter as he is currently 39 years of age.

If the fight will happen today I will surely bet on Chavez jr to. But let see if there's other more noise will happen and also hopefully we won't see a scripted match on this fight.

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April 21, 2025, 11:21:54 PM
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Anyway, it does not matter who Jake is going to fight, because people will as usually say that the fight was rigged, opponent was old, crippled, not a boxer. As usually people will talk shit about Jake, but then silently buy PPV Cheesy
buying PPV on this kinds of fights is just waste of money in my poinion, but yeah, there are people who'll buy it despite talking shit about Jake Paul.

Anyway, I think the reason why a lot of people talk shit about jake is because the guy like to talk shit in boxing but doesn't really have anything to back it up other than fights he had(will have) with old person with a chronic disease, a former boxer who hasn't been in the ring for a decade with a mental illness and non-boxers. And the time he fought an actual boxer, he lost.

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April 22, 2025, 02:04:30 AM
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Jake Paul has announced his return to the ring and the opponent will be none other than former middleweight world champion Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. This is honestly nothing more than another money grab fight. Chavez has recently been in jail, rehab treatment, and a psych hospital. He has not looked good in about a decade and he lost to an old Anderson Silva, who Jake Paul beat in a wide unanimous decision.



Money grab is true but more like a wanna be cinematic experience lol. I mean even the poster looks like a comedy movie poster. JP is. a mad man tho but he is a business man first. These kids sure know how to make money these Paul brothers

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After having some time to think about this and look over the state of Julio Cesar Chavez Jr, I think I’ll be putting my money on Jake Paul. Not because I think he is a better fighter, but because I don’t believe that Julio Cesar Chavez Jr has punched someone in the last nine years while I think Jake does it all day ever day.

Julio Cesar Jr. is damaged goods through and through. In a way, he's a disgrace to his father's legacy.

But he's actually fought less than a year ago against the old Uriah Hall. And he actually won. But it was one garbage of a fight, just like the one he's going to do with Jake Paul. The big difference, however, is that Jake Paul is young, active, and strong.

Incidentally, Julio's fight against Uriah was an undercard of Jake Paul and Mike Perry's match in Florida last year, another garbage boxing match.

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Just imagine a fragile Anderson Silva beating a boxer like Julio Cesar Chavez Jr in a boxing match. So it's very hard to put money on him. And besides, we have seen Jake Paul fighting Mike and winning that as well.

If somewhat Jake established a good boxing career, then come out of his retirement to fight Jake Paul then maybe we can say that he has a good chance to have a upset win. But Chavez Jr, didn't inherit any of his legendary father's trait in boxing. He is just a regular having that last name but he didn't carry the legacy. He might have save a lot of money in his boxing career and this could have help him survived in this life.

Watching this fight on PPV feels like a waste of money, but it will still generate revenue because Jake Paul has a large following. As you mentioned, Chavez Jr. hasn't fought in a long time, so how can he beat an active comedy fighter like Jake Paul? Ultimately, this seems like just another money-grab circus event.


 
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Chavez Jr. record is only good in his early years of his boxing career, but he faded in the last five years; his loss to Silva marked the lowest point of his boxing career. If Anderson Silva can beat Chavez Jr. why not Jake Paul? This will be a good fight if Chavez Jr. can only bring back his old glory days.
It's going to be a big humiliation to his father's legacy if he loses the fight via knockout. Since Jake Paul is fighting a professional boxer, which I believe is still license, the world governing body should honor this fight where the winner will increase his ranking.
Well, we don't who is gonna win this fight Jake paul last fight is Mike Tyson a pro boxer but old look at the age gap between Paul and Mike it's 31yrs gap.
Right now Chavez Jr. is 39yrs old he is still young 11yrs gap with Paul.

So for me, based on the statistic I still going to bet with Chavez Jr. if he gonna lose this fight he will surely be embarrassed in front of his father but I believe he will win this fight.

Jake isn't a pro. He just want to be attached to that label but no boxing organization adopted him. He just have his own boxing promotion that's why he can arrange boxers popular enough to make a hype but he is the one paying these fighters to fight with him.

If Mike wasn't pulling his fist, Jake could have been KO'd already. That was being analyzed by many speculators how to talk inside the ring and after that Mike gave him the chance. Jake Paul vs Chavez Jr wouldn't even be in the betting platform, they know its rigged.

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Anyway, it does not matter who Jake is going to fight, because people will as usually say that the fight was rigged, opponent was old, crippled, not a boxer. As usually people will talk shit about Jake, but then silently buy PPV Cheesy
buying PPV on this kinds of fights is just waste of money in my poinion, but yeah, there are people who'll buy it despite talking shit about Jake Paul.

Anyway, I think the reason why a lot of people talk shit about jake is because the guy like to talk shit in boxing but doesn't really have anything to back it up other than fights he had(will have) with old person with a chronic disease, a former boxer who hasn't been in the ring for a decade with a mental illness and non-boxers. And the time he fought an actual boxer, he lost.

Like I've said previously, as a boxer and achievements in boxing, I dont admire Jake Paul, but as a person who popularizes boxing and sports in general, I can clap for Jake Paul. Young generation admire, respect and listen to bloggers more than their parents nowadays. With boxing, Jake is gives an example to younger generation that if they want, nothing is impossible, and instead of wasting time, pay attention to sports. He is making money on that, no doubt, that is one thing, but other thing that someone might look on him and sign for any training.

As to fighting against "person with a chronic disease, a former boxer who hasn't been in the ring for a decade with a mental illness and non-boxers". First, nobody pushed Mike to sign contract for that fight. So instead of blaming Jake for fighting weak, retired, old guys, blame those guys for being greedy for money. Second, if I had a chance, I would also step in the ring with a legend Cheesy And you would also do that.

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Ofcouree he will return. What else could bring him good money other than another hype fight event like this. But the opponent seems lower than his previous. But still this could cook. Knowing the marketing, Jake will got a good money again after this match.

I bet this match will be stage and those two will be good actors for this match. Guess who will be the winner? That might be in the contract too. Kek

The popular believe is that Jake Paul, carefully picks his opponents and they're mostly boxers that are not in their prime or best form. Also that the upcoming bout with Julio Cesar Chavez, will be allegedly scripted like it was alleged that him and iron Mike's match was scripted. Whatever it is let them put up a good show in the upcoming bout and let the spectators be entertained. Problem with fights that you think are scripted will be difficult to put your money on because your analysis wouldn't matter in the fight. I don't expect this upcoming bout with Chavez, to have the monentum that his fight with Mike Tyson, had, Tyson, is a boxing legend whom his comeback was highly anticipated.

 
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Ofcouree he will return. What else could bring him good money other than another hype fight event like this. But the opponent seems lower than his previous. But still this could cook. Knowing the marketing, Jake will got a good money again after this match.

I bet this match will be stage and those two will be good actors for this match. Guess who will be the winner? That might be in the contract too. Kek

The popular believe is that Jake Paul, carefully picks his opponents and they're mostly boxers that are not in their prime or best form. Also that the upcoming bout with Julio Cesar Chavez, will be allegedly scripted like it was alleged that him and iron Mike's match was scripted. Whatever it is let them put up a good show in the upcoming bout and let the spectators be entertained. Problem with fights that you think are scripted will be difficult to put your money on because your analysis wouldn't matter in the fight. I don't expect this upcoming bout with Chavez, to have the monentum that his fight with Mike Tyson, had, Tyson, is a boxing legend whom his comeback was highly anticipated.

That is no secret already, he knows the recipe, the knows how to tickle the imagine of boxing fans. Specially when we fought Mike Tyson. Many of us here feel for that as we thought that Mike Tyson has a good chance to send Jake Paul in the canvass.

But we are all wrong, Tyson can't pull the trigger or he doesn't want to, we really don't know. So it's hard for Jake Paul to get another opponent that is bigger than Tyson. And so with that he settles on a fighter in Chaver Jr. Maybe again, we can think of a former boxer that can beat Jake Paul but it's not going to happen here.

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Thank you for that introductory paragraph because I am not too deep into boxing, but I have been wondering for some time now how these Paul brothers get these deals done despite fighting inferior fighters all the time. I can only remember some figures from the past when boxers made like $20 million or something per fight? When these guys get their fights streamed on Netflix and have pay per view contracts, this Jake Paul guy is making so much money.

When you said "none other than", I was hoping that he finally has a worthy opponent. But then you add that important of information I would have now looked up myself. Is it still worth watching it? I am afraid your last piece of info gives the answer to that, but then it is still confusing how they sign these mind blowing contracts with broadcasters.

Jake Paul’s fanbase is extremely young and unlikely to know any better. They just see him getting viral knockouts and buy into the hype. Jake Paul’s earnings are a combination of PPV buys and sponsorship deals. Having a young impressionable audience that is willing to buy whatever you are involved in, there is going to be a lot of brands wanting to attach themselves to him in any way.

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Chavez Jr. record is only good in his early years of his boxing career, but he faded in the last five years; his loss to Silva marked the lowest point of his boxing career. If Anderson Silva can beat Chavez Jr. why not Jake Paul? This will be a good fight if Chavez Jr. can only bring back his old glory days.
It's going to be a big humiliation to his father's legacy if he loses the fight via knockout. Since Jake Paul is fighting a professional boxer, which I believe is still license, the world governing body should honor this fight where the winner will increase his ranking.
Well, we don't who is gonna win this fight Jake paul last fight is Mike Tyson a pro boxer but old look at the age gap between Paul and Mike it's 31yrs gap.
Right now Chavez Jr. is 39yrs old he is still young 11yrs gap with Paul.

So for me, based on the statistic I still going to bet with Chavez Jr. if he gonna lose this fight he will surely be embarrassed in front of his father but I believe he will win this fight.

I think this is a good fight for Jake. While Chavez Jr. isn't a great boxer, he is a decent boxer. Sure he is past his prime, but it's just another fight to gain experience. I don't know what people expect from Jake. He is just a YouTuber that started doing boxing a few years ago. What he is supposed to do? Fight Canelo and get killed in round 1 and end the hype train? I think he is doing the right thing, just keep fighting UFC big names, and start escalating on the quality on the boxers. The next boxer, if he wins Chavez Jr., will be better, and so on. Just gradual improvements. Don't jump on some big name fight and get dropped quick. He already lost to Tommy Fury in a close fight, so I think he shoud get a rematch for that next.
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What Jake is doing is earning money and having professional boxing fights. We could blame him for cherry picking opponents, or fighting old guys, if he claimed that with those fights he is going to build road to belts and becoming champion. Since he has no plans to become a real champ (he can only joke about it), any professional boxer as opponent is experience for Jake. Cant blame him for getting new experience.

P.S. Since Jake professional boxing record is short still, a beginning of a career, if he wishes to fight for many more years, then check beginning of a career of other professional boxers. I am sure not every started with undefeated champions.

For example first Mike Tyson opponents.

Hector Merced - 0-3 record
Trent Singleton - 1-5 record
Don Halpin - 0-5 record
Ricardo Spain - 1-0 record
John Aldersen - 3-0 record (first real danger lol)
Larry Sims - 3-16-2 record

Quite a list of low level boxers, newbies in pros.

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April 23, 2025, 08:58:00 AM
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What Jake is doing is earning money and having professional boxing fights. We could blame him for cherry picking opponents, or fighting old guys, if he claimed that with those fights he is going to build road to belts and becoming champion. Since he has no plans to become a real champ (he can only joke about it), any professional boxer as opponent is experience for Jake. Cant blame him for getting new experience.

P.S. Since Jake professional boxing record is short still, a beginning of a career, if he wishes to fight for many more years, then check beginning of a career of other professional boxers. I am sure not every started with undefeated champions.

Its dangerous for him to take a big fight or pick a opponent that more stronger than him. So obviously he would pick those opponent which he think he has a good chance to win. Boxing is dangerous sports and for sure he know his limitation that's why he pick those fighters which is out of their prime so that he can possibly survive and enjoy the pay checks he can get from those fights.

Jake Paul is smart for doing this exhibition matches at while he's still sellable to the audience then its good to grab the opportunity so that they can earn lots of money for this and for other more potential fights that he can take.

I doubt Paul will take fight on undefeated champions since for sure he knows the risk and provably he would rather prefer to pick those retired fighter than fighting those current undefeated champions.

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April 23, 2025, 09:08:30 AM
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It is dangerous for Jake if we wants to keep building record and getting closer to a title fight. Otherwise, a loss does not matter much if good money are at a stake. As it is too late for him to plan for becoming champion, he can fight whoever he wants and whoever accepts his offer. That is how I see it. That is why I see no point for blaming him for choosing weaker opponents. If people are ready pay, he can even do shadow boxing and get his paycheck.

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