Bitcoin's path to number 1 in market cap

[philipma1957]

to me New Hampshire doing a btc reserve makes arizona look like a loser.

So the new thing will be more states doing btc reserve.

I could see btc over 3 trillion this year easy.

I hope for over 4 trillion by Jan 1.

[Free Market Capitalist]

Just in: we reached number 5 in market cap.

Any bets on when we can beat Nvidia, Apple and MSTF? I think this year.

[Yaunfitda]

Just in: we reached number 5 in market cap.

Any bets on when we can beat Nvidia, Apple and MSTF? I think this year.

I'm not good in numbers, but it seems that we are closer that Nividia right now. So maybe if we reach around $120k-$130k, we might overtake it and if we double or reaches around $180k or higher, we could be in the second spot behind Gold and overtake all those biggest companies in the world. That could be the biggest accomplishment for this cycle and who knows, we might do it as Bitcoin has gone bigger every cycle. But then again, when we reaches the end of this cycle's bull run, we will go fell out, maybe go down to top 10-15. But as I have said, that is huge run if we can go as high as second spot as we haven't done that before if I'm not mistaken.

[_act_]

Just in: we reached number 5 in market cap.

Any bets on when we can beat Nvidia, Apple and MSTF? I think this year.

I think it will not be this year because bitcoin bear market will likely begin before that would happen but in 2027/2028 and 2029, bitcoin would have been in the second position. Those stocks will later be what can not be used to compare bitcoin but just only gold.

[btc_angela]

Just in: we reached number 5 in market cap.

Any bets on when we can beat Nvidia, Apple and MSTF? I think this year.

I think it will not be this year because bitcoin bear market will likely begin before that would happen but in 2027/2028 and 2029, bitcoin would have been in the second position. Those stocks will later be what can not be used to compare bitcoin but just only gold.

Yes, but if you have like double the price before the end of the year, then we will have a good chance.
MicroSoft is $3.260T and the current price of Bitcoin is $103k. So if by chance we reach around $200k this last quarter of the year or at least that's what going to be the peak of the price, then there is a chance that we will doubled our marketcap and overtake MicroSoft for a time being.

Plenty of time for us to do that as we have 6 more months before the end of the year so it's a good bet that we might do that as Bitcoin market is very unpredictable.

[Swordsoffreedom]

Just in: we reached number 5 in market cap.

Any bets on when we can beat Nvidia, Apple and MSTF? I think this year.

I'm not good in numbers, but it seems that we are closer that Nividia right now. So maybe if we reach around $120k-$130k, we might overtake it and if we double or reaches around $180k or higher, we could be in the second spot behind Gold and overtake all those biggest companies in the world. That could be the biggest accomplishment for this cycle and who knows, we might do it as Bitcoin has gone bigger every cycle. But then again, when we reaches the end of this cycle's bull run, we will go fell out, maybe go down to top 10-15. But as I have said, that is huge run if we can go as high as second spot as we haven't done that before if I'm not mistaken.

That won't happen even if bitcoin price hits $180k . Aside from bitcoin needing to hit $180k or more, we need to make sure stocks like Nvidia, Apple, and MSTF don't go up but that's clearly out of our control.
If I remember correctly, Nvidia's ATH was $3.6 trillion thanks to the AI ​​craze, and if the economy recovers and the AI ​​craze comes back, not only Nvidia but also tech stocks will skyrocket, this is almost certain. So it's really a tough task for bitcoin in this cycle.

But I agree with you, even if bitcoin reaches the 2nd position, it cannot hold that position for too long because bitcoin is too volatile, once the bear season comes, it will even fall out of the top 10.

[_act_]

Just in: we reached number 5 in market cap.

Any bets on when we can beat Nvidia, Apple and MSTF? I think this year.

I'm not good in numbers, but it seems that we are closer that Nividia right now. So maybe if we reach around $120k-$130k, we might overtake it and if we double or reaches around $180k or higher, we could be in the second spot behind Gold and overtake all those biggest companies in the world. That could be the biggest accomplishment for this cycle and who knows, we might do it as Bitcoin has gone bigger every cycle. But then again, when we reaches the end of this cycle's bull run, we will go fell out, maybe go down to top 10-15. But as I have said, that is huge run if we can go as high as second spot as we haven't done that before if I'm not mistaken.

That won't happen even if bitcoin price hits $180k . Aside from bitcoin needing to hit $180k or more, we need to make sure stocks like Nvidia, Apple, and MSTF don't go up but that's clearly out of our control.
If I remember correctly, Nvidia's ATH was $3.6 trillion thanks to the AI ​​craze, and if the economy recovers and the AI ​​craze comes back, not only Nvidia but also tech stocks will skyrocket, this is almost certain. So it's really a tough task for bitcoin in this cycle.

But I agree with you, even if bitcoin reaches the 2nd position, it cannot hold that position for too long because bitcoin is too volatile, once the bear season comes, it will even fall out of the top 10.

If bitcoin get to $180000, its marketcap will be over $3.57 trillion. So what can not happen?

Bitcoin price will still fall during bear market but a time is comming that bitcoin price will be much higher than those stocks just like how gold price is far higher. Bitcoin is different from the stocks and you can see how the world are adopting it. They are not comparable at all.

[philipma1957]

Just in: we reached number 5 in market cap.

Any bets on when we can beat Nvidia, Apple and MSTF? I think this year.

I see us as a strong #2 in 2026

20 million coins at 200,000 each = 4 trillion

seems likely.

I really big deal is New Hampshire creating a reserve with good restrictions ie only a coin with a 500 billion market cap is allowed.

Texas so should follow this as Texas mines bigly.

if Texas follows them we are going to see many more states.

Arizonia's moron governor pulled a veto on their bill and looks like shit now.

BTC was in the mid 90's when she pulled her moron veto

it is now 103.4k

As politicians see how BTC whales they will crumble and pass BTC bills this year.

I simply can not see only New Hampshire with a BTC bill by the end of 2025

[JeffBrad12]

Just in: we reached number 5 in market cap.

Any bets on when we can beat Nvidia, Apple and MSTF? I think this year.

This year make a lot of sense for BTC to be #2, just small gap anyway, if BTC can have another rally and have another ATH then it will become #2 instantly.
Those stock are also vulnerable toward tariff, so their value can plummet as well but I already seen a sign that BTC decouple from stock trend and can rally on its own.
Just imagine BTC being #2 on its way to overtake gold as well. bitcoin's golden age is here.

[philipma1957]

Just in: we reached number 5 in market cap.

Any bets on when we can beat Nvidia, Apple and MSTF? I think this year.

This year make a lot of sense for BTC to be #2, just small gap anyway, if BTC can have another rally and have another ATH then it will become #2 instantly.
Those stock are also vulnerable toward tariff, so their value can plummet as well but I already seen a sign that BTC decouple from stock trend and can rally on its own.
Just imagine BTC being #2 on its way to overtake gold as well. bitcoin's golden age is here.

I am not worried about gold and number 1.

But 200k and 4 trillion seems realistic.

I am trying to see if texas wants to copy what New hampshire  did.

https://www.texastribune.org/2025/04/11/texas-house-budget-approval/

Texas spends 337 billion every two years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_School_Fund is over 70 billion
2 percent for btc would be nice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permanent_University_Fund

is also over 70 billion 2 percent would be nice

Alaska https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Permanent_Fund over 70 billion 2 percent in btc would be nice.

just those above would be over 4 or 5 billion in coin.

[Free Market Capitalist]

I see us as a strong #2 in 2026

20 million coins at 200,000 each = 4 trillion

seems likely.

I think that will happen this year. 

What this cycle lacks is a violent rise. We are one year after halving which is when they usually occur and with so much demand I think this is the calm before the storm. A very good storm for us.

[Alpha Marine]

Just in: we reached number 5 in market cap.

We're down to 6th currently, just below AMZN, which is in 5th place.

Any bets on when we can beat Nvidia, Apple and MSTF? I think this year.

I don't think it will be this year.
We need Bitcoin to hit 150k this year to be able to hit $3 trillion market cap and overtake NVDA, which is possible this year, but I don't think we will overtake APPL and MSFT this year.
The problem is, even if we do, we won't remain in that position because of how volatile Bitcoin is. It will surely dip, and when it does, it will drop in the ranking. When the bear market comes, Bitcoin might dip below 80k. With time, bitcoin will surely be second on the list, behind gold, but not this year.

[philipma1957]

Just in: we reached number 5 in market cap.

Any bets on when we can beat Nvidia, Apple and MSTF? I think this year.

I'm not good in numbers, but it seems that we are closer that Nividia right now. So maybe if we reach around $120k-$130k, we might overtake it and if we double or reaches around $180k or higher, we could be in the second spot behind Gold and overtake all those biggest companies in the world. That could be the biggest accomplishment for this cycle and who knows, we might do it as Bitcoin has gone bigger every cycle. But then again, when we reaches the end of this cycle's bull run, we will go fell out, maybe go down to top 10-15. But as I have said, that is huge run if we can go as high as second spot as we haven't done that before if I'm not mistaken.

That won't happen even if bitcoin price hits $180k . Aside from bitcoin needing to hit $180k or more, we need to make sure stocks like Nvidia, Apple, and MSTF don't go up but that's clearly out of our control.
If I remember correctly, Nvidia's ATH was $3.6 trillion thanks to the AI ​​craze, and if the economy recovers and the AI ​​craze comes back, not only Nvidia but also tech stocks will skyrocket, this is almost certain. So it's really a tough task for bitcoin in this cycle.

But I agree with you, even if bitcoin reaches the 2nd position, it cannot hold that position for too long because bitcoin is too volatile, once the bear season comes, it will even fall out of the top 10.

the bear season may not be like the older ones.

A lot depends on how many coins go to governments and large companies

we could go over 300k and do a decade of sideways

gold stayed in a 200-400 slot for over 12 years, 

maybe btc stays in a 380 400k slot for a decade

[STT]

Nvidia, Apple and MSTF?

To value all these things would require to value their debt also, cash and assets outside of purely just equity shares.   Microsoft was issuing debt at 1% cost for five years and repurchasing shares yielding 3% at one point, an arbitrage that results in literally free money for them so long as their revenue is regular which it is.   The biggest companies and entities in the world have it far too easy and its ordinary people who are really paying for their benefit is how I see that balance.

I'm not that keen to compare BTC to shares, I believe its a form of commodity rather then equity or any relation to ownership and its not debt.   Gold going to 10k was said pretty much every year since 2000 and just now its not seeming that massively far off, if people want to say BTC is bigger then base it off gold also at the same time getting to that peak as I dont see the two assets being an either/or situation.   It will all be outflows from the dollar in the end and its used globally so thats a big change in the world.

[justdimin]

I think bitcoin could move into the number 5 position shortly and hopefully into the number 2 position this very cycle.

On the other hand, dethroning gold will take much longer, but we'll get there.

I am opening this monitoring thread so that we can share the road to glory.

Yeah, still doesn't really matter if we can beat those companies this year, doesn't even matter if we can't beat gold for a while. What I know is that we are going to be number one eventually, there won't be any asset in the world with bigger marketcap. I am not talking about some californium whatever rare metal, I mean like common investment, gold ,stocks, everything, we are going to make a lot more money. So, you should not be worried about it and think that we can make some money with bitcoin.

People suggest long term holding just because of this reason and if you can make money from holding, then you will realize that when we are number one, that will bring us a lot of money. So hold, accumulate more and hold as long as you can.

[Ambatman]

once the bear season comes, it will might even fall out of the top 10.

FTFY.
well on Bear season? I don't know if there's going to be any such season anytime soon.
Yes a correction is possible but I don't think it would go to the extent like previous cycle.

If this year is favourable, stocks Would benefit greatly but Bitcoin has more multiplier (volatility)
As supply increases and price per Bitcoin increases
Hitting number 2 Would be closer than we think
Entering the Top 10 was harder than Bitcoin crossing to second. 

[JeffBrad12]

Just in: we reached number 5 in market cap.

Any bets on when we can beat Nvidia, Apple and MSTF? I think this year.

Only 0.2 T left that's like small rally for bitcoin to be #5, we probably gonna cross amazon next month if things are good.
Then we're on the way to overtake Apple, if i told myself from 5 years ago that BTC gonna be this huge and this fast in term of growth, I wouldn't have believed it.

[Free Market Capitalist]

Only 0.2 T left that's like small rally for bitcoin to be #5, we probably gonna cross amazon next month if things are good.
Then we're on the way to overtake Apple, if i told myself from 5 years ago that BTC gonna be this huge and this fast in term of growth, I wouldn't have believed it.

The fact is that when the price rises, especially in this part of the cycle, it tends to do so suddenly. People now see the price half stopped and do not expect much but I think that the next time the ATH is beaten it will start a rise with God candles that will leave the market cap as second this year. I could be wrong, obviously, but that's what I think.

[thecodebear]

#2 position ahead of all the companies could definitely happen before the end of the decade, maybe even sooner.

Passing Gold though will likely take a few decades. Even if Gold price didn't increase at all, that'd take over $1M Bitcoin, so we're talking probably at least 15 years. But there's a decent chance Gold increases a good amount over that time, so maybe more like 25 years.

Of course on the other hand, considering how much Gold has gone up the past year, the price of Gold could definitely head back down for a number of years, as it did most of last decade, so that it's possible if Bitcoin is like $800k, let's say, by last 2030s, it could already have passed Gold's market cap. But if Gold keeps growing even a few percent a year it'll take much longer than that.