Need a good web wallet for fees

[The Hidebehinder]

Hi,
I don't know if this is the good section for this but anyhow
I need a web wallet for micropayments that can deal with the fees itself (I don't know if they all do as I never used those) but I need one that won't start complaining you need main coin L1 funds before sending L2 coins
I know not your keys not your money, I will just be using it for micropayments, don't you start lecturing me on that

And yes it can be an exchange wallet as long as it doesn't charge me 1 Bitcoin to send 1 Satoshi.

[Charles-Tim]

Know that the wallet does not charge any fee. The fees are received by miners.

You can know the best fee priority using this site: https://mempool.space/

You can use Electrum for it.
Electrum official site: https://electrum.org/

You can use Electrum on an airgapped device which are safer than online wallets: https://electrum.readthedocs.io/en/latest/coldstorage.html

And yes it can be an exchange wallet as long as it doesn't charge me 1 Bitcoin to send 1 Satoshi.

Do not use an exchange because they charge exorbitant fee for bitcoin transactions.

[The Hidebehinder]

Know that the wallet does not charge any fee. The fees are received by miners.

And miners also don't charge any fees because you pay those to compete with the others that want your block space, let's not get into this debate

You can use Electrum for it.

I need a web wallet that can deal with multiple coins, not just Bitcoin, so if somebody wants me to send him $10 worth of USDC on Solana I don't need a solana wallet then another one to receive 100 satoshi and another one to send 50 monero.

[Charles-Tim]

And miners also don't charge any fees because you pay those to compete with the others that want your block space, let's not get into this debate

What debate?

I need a web wallet that can deal with multiple coins, not just Bitcoin, so if somebody wants me to send him $10 worth of USDC on Solana I don't need a solana wallet then another one to receive 100 satoshi and another one to send 50 monero.

I am using Unstoppable wallet for more coins because it is open source adlnd I have just little of them. Good online open source wallet is hard to find. There was a time I am using Metamask wallet also.

Most online wallet with most coins ar close source not I can not recommend close source wallets.

If you can get a hardware wallet like Trezor, it is better. It is also open source.

[Mia Chloe]

You can work with the lightning network. L2 scaling actually  has a much smaller fees compared to to main chain especially during periods of congestion. If you make use of the lightning channel still, the lightning nodes will still determine how much fees you would spend so using the one of a CEX isn't much different.

Sometimes the MEMPOOL is less congested and based on the average number of inputs you should be spending just a few cents on fees. Infact recently I've seen fees just around 10 - 15 cents max. Confirmation speed is fairly fast too.

[Joy_learns_crypto]

OP you need a wallet that does charge you any fee? You want to be able send Xamount of crypto and receive exactly the Xamount of money in your receiving wallet?

Well then you should read about how transactions are completed. Most fees are payments to see your transactions through. You can not escape this fee as far as I know you can only get them lowered but it’s constant.

[mocacinno]

I would not trust any wallet that pays transaction fees in your place... It would mean they'd lose money each time you created a transaction, which would basically mean they'd have to have some other kind of revenue originating from you... This would probably mean they'd (selectively) scam or bombard you with ads/sell your info.
I wouldn't trust a web wallet, exchange wallet or casino wallet anyways, but one that would brand itself completely free would raise an extra suspicion....

[_act_]

If you make use of the lightning channel still, the lightning nodes will still determine how much fees you would spend so using the one of a CEX isn't much different.

Exchanges can add some extra fee but most exchanges that I checked lightning network fee, the fee is low but lower on noncustodial lightning wallet. The lightning fee was more than $0.9 but less than $1 on Kucoin. I think it was $0.3 on OKX. On exchanges like Binance, the fee was less than $0.07. The fee is almost $1 on Bitget just like it is on Kucoin. It is cheaper on lightning noncustodial wallets like Phoenix. Only what you can use to compare the noncustodial wallet are custodial lightning wallet like Wallet of Satoshi but which I do not advise people to use for its custodial reason.

[The Hidebehinder]

And miners also don't charge any fees because you pay those to compete with the others that want your block space, let's not get into this debate

What debate?

It's irrelevant for me for what you pay the fee, just as it's irrelevant how the VAT I pay at the kiosk is used.

OP you need a wallet that does charge you any fee? You want to be able send Xamount of crypto and receive exactly the Xamount of money in your receiving wallet?

I need a multicoin wallet with a swap feature.
So if I don't have enough to pay for gas fees I woundn't have to deposit ETH again with $1000 worth of BTC already in that wallet, I could just exchange a bit of that for the fees, same when paying with BTC for example and I'm missing 5600 satoshis to bump the fees up, I already have $100 USDT there so let me easily convert those.

If no such web wallet wallet exist then what's the cheapest exchange for micro transactions?

I would not trust any wallet that pays transaction fees in your place...

Yeah , I need to rewrite the OP
I didn't ask for a free fee, I wanted a webwallet that would allow me to exchange the coins I needed for the fee in case I didn't have enough of that, I want to send x token which I have, but I need y gas and I only have z bitcoin or sol.

[Zaguru12]

I need a multicoin wallet with a swap feature.
So if I don't have enough to pay for gas fees I woundn't have to deposit ETH again with $1000 worth of BTC already in that wallet, I could just exchange a bit of that for the fees, same when paying with BTC for example and I'm missing 5600 satoshis to bump the fees up, I already have $100 USDT there so let me easily convert those.

There is no wallet that can actually give you a direct swap between various networks for example you cannot actually have funds on bitcoin network and want to directly swap to Ethereum network, rather what can be done is primarily bridging from one network to another. The wallet that can supports this are web3 wallet because they have DApps to help access the bridging sites and you certainly know of the dangers already

My suggestion is for multicoin I have used exchanges inbuilt web3 wallets, not necessarily the keyless ones but also does who grant you access to the keys. The most common one for me is the OKX web3 wallet which you can have all coins on a single wallet and then while you want to bridge, for example from bitcoin to Ethereum you can simply access the DApps and search for jumper.exchange bridging site. This site can help you bridge between various networks once you connect the wallet. This most of the times saves fees depending on the congestion on both bridging networks.

[dzungmobile]

Exodus wallet can satisfy OP but it is not a good wallet to use because it is close source.
Cross-chain swaps with Exodus wallet.
How to use Bitcoin crosschain swaps - A step-by-step tutorial

Read reviews on Exodus wallet
https://walletscrutiny.com/?platform=allPlatforms&page=0&query-string=exodus

[FinneysTrueVision]

gas.zip works great when you are running low on gas on one chain and need a refill. It does not support Bitcoin though and I don’t know of any swapping service where you can swap for a very small amount of BTC. The best you can do is try something like Sideshift or FixedFloat and swap for the minimum amount.

[pawanjain]

Hi,
I don't know if this is the good section for this but anyhow
I need a web wallet for micropayments that can deal with the fees itself (I don't know if they all do as I never used those) but I need one that won't start complaining you need main coin L1 funds before sending L2 coins
I know not your keys not your money, I will just be using it for micropayments, don't you start lecturing me on that

And yes it can be an exchange wallet as long as it doesn't charge me 1 Bitcoin to send 1 Satoshi.

If you are looking for a web wallet just for making micro payments then why not opt for a non-custodial wallet on your smartphone itself.
It is much easier and convenient to use it on your smartphone. You can either opt for Electrum, Exodus or Mycelium.
You will be controlling your funds since you will be holding the private keys.

[CryptSafe]

OP, it is rare to see such a wallet if I am not mistaken, but a few days ago a member created a thread here about a website which one can use to swap and send coins to various wallets as they wish. Maybe this could be of help to you if you don't mind, and I will advise you to do your own research about it properly before using it.

[btcltcdigger]

Just use metamask my dude. Put $10 worth of gas tokens and forget about it. Even ETH is cheap nowadays.
Remember, there's no free meal, so if there is any web wallet that claims to have free transactions, they charge it somewhere else for sure

[coupable]

Hi,
I don't know if this is the good section for this but anyhow
I need a web wallet for micropayments that can deal with the fees itself (I don't know if they all do as I never used those) but I need one that won't start complaining you need main coin L1 funds before sending L2 coins
I know not your keys not your money, I will just be using it for micropayments, don't you start lecturing me on that

And yes it can be an exchange wallet as long as it doesn't charge me 1 Bitcoin to send 1 Satoshi.

I see that you are aware of the general concept of crypto wallets in general, but I cannot understand why you would want to use a webwallet despite all the risks you are aware of. I conclude that you are either looking for a webwallet because you do not realize that you can always use personal bitcoin wallets for online payments, or to conduct transactions in a variety of cryptocurrencies, not just Bitcoin.

[khaled0111]

It seems some members didn’t get OP’s point. What he is looking for is a solution that allows him to send crypto even if he doesn’t have enough of the native coin to cover the fees. Like being able to send USDT (ERC-20) without having enough ETH to cover the gas.

Unfortunately, I'm not aware of any wallet that can do this (be it a web wallet or not). This isn't possible even in wallets that have an internal swap feature.
The only thing I can think of is using a centralized exchange like Binance (no need to remind you of the risks involved as you seem already aware of that). Withdrawal fees aren’t that high, except for Bitcoin and Ethereum.

[Rustam Meraj]

Hi,
I don't know if this is the good section for this but anyhow
I need a web wallet for micropayments that can deal with the fees itself (I don't know if they all do as I never used those) but I need one that won't start complaining you need main coin L1 funds before sending L2 coins
I know not your keys not your money, I will just be using it for micropayments, don't you start lecturing me on that

And yes it can be an exchange wallet as long as it doesn't charge me 1 Bitcoin to send 1 Satoshi.

If you ask me so I will recommend you one wallet. That is Cwallet and this Cwallet is easy to use and have many Blockchains and multiple coins it supports.
It has built is easy swap you can swap one coin to other coin easily and send it to others. I am using it for a long time. You can easily go Bitcoin to Solana. Solana to Ethereum. Ethereum to other any Blockchain. And it has lower fee too.
I tried to understand your posts and what I get I shared my opinion I think this is the wallet which you exactly want.
I am sharing Google play store link of that wallet. You can download it from this link.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.blockabc.cctip

I hope you will enjoy it and it will be according to your demand.

[Zwei]

It seems some members didn’t get OP’s point. What he is looking for is a solution that allows him to send crypto even if he doesn’t have enough of the native coin to cover the fees. Like being able to send USDT (ERC-20) without having enough ETH to cover the gas.

Unfortunately, I'm not aware of any wallet that can do this (be it a web wallet or not). This isn't possible even in wallets that have an internal swap feature.
The only thing I can think of is using a centralized exchange like Binance (no need to remind you of the risks involved as you seem already aware of that). Withdrawal fees aren’t that high, except for Bitcoin and Ethereum.

metamask added an update a few days ago that lets you do something similar for paying ETH gas fees, but it's limited to only USDT, USDC, DAI, ETH, wETH, wBTC, wstETH, and wSOL.
https://x.com/MetaMask/status/1915465589646344653

[The Hidebehinder]

It seems some members didn’t get OP’s point. What he is looking for is a solution that allows him to send crypto even if he doesn’t have enough of the native coin to cover the fees. Like being able to send USDT (ERC-20) without having enough ETH to cover the gas.

Exactly, so I don't have to deal with gas when I'm just dealing with tokens

metamask added an update a few days ago that lets you do something similar for paying ETH gas fees, but it's limited to only USDT, USDC, DAI, ETH, wETH, wBTC, wstETH, and wSOL.
https://x.com/MetaMask/status/1915465589646344653

The news are the reason I asked for a wallet like this, I thought maybe there are some others that would have this feature and also would allow me to easily swap coins if I don't have any kind of funds on a certain chain.
Not a fan of metamask so I looked for an alternative with this feature.

I conclude that you are either looking for a webwallet because you do not realize that you can always use personal bitcoin wallets for online payments, or to conduct transactions in a variety of cryptocurrencies, not just Bitcoin.

You conclude wrong, I deal a lot with payments and most customers have moved away from BTC while my main funds are in BTC, dealing with 10-15 hot and cold wallets as I also need liquidity available would be impossible to manage and would only lead to a mistake sooner or later.