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April 29, 2025, 03:41:48 PM
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I have heard many stories about the devilish luck of beginners. But what kind of gamblers are these? Those who put effort into studying the game and preparing a strategy? No! These are those gamblers who know nothing and can't do anything, but somehow win. Doesn't this seem a little strange to other gamblers? For me, certainly not, because this explains the theory of luck (the influence of RTP on the possibility of winning) and dispels the myth that there are strategies and tactics that allow you to win in gambling. Here, only RTP can help you win, due to which winnings are distributed randomly.
Luck plays a significant role in gambling because some people can't analyze games, but they still win big. What about some illiterates who can't read or comprehend sports analysis but still win bets. Whereas many professional bettors have had long losing streaks even with their skills. Knowledge about games is important but luck is an important factor that cannot be overlooked..

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April 29, 2025, 03:49:45 PM
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Because in sports betting, there is also a luck factor that affects the results. Maybe for a real match, we can see technical errors made by players or even teams that make the favored team lose. But that kind of thing doesn't always happen in sports betting.
However, if you are active in making sports bets, you certainly won't place bets randomly. You will definitely make some effort before you make a bet.
The effort made before making a bet must have an impact, whether small or large, in influencing the results of the bet. People who bet on sports have a different approach than those who bet on casino games.

Betting requires researching teams and I have seen one person do this, he goes so deep into it that he even studies the sponsors of the teams, their investments and upcoming transfers to understand what the team's prospects are. I have never studied any of my bets so deeply, but I also suspect that this person bets significantly more than I do, for me it is just a hobby, for him it may be something more, or maybe he is like this in everything he does.

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April 29, 2025, 04:07:07 PM
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But does doing all that really increase our chances of winning, or more specifically, make us profitable?

Yes it increases.your chances of winning.
For you to be good at something you need to be grounded at it and for you to  be grounded you need to study about the thing. Gather as much information as possible. It's just like writing an examination, you cannot enter into an examination hall without any idea of the topic. At least you will get to study well about the course and even make enquiry if possible about the course so that you can make attempts of answering the question when asked.
Same for the betting or gambling. You need to follow up with sports news, get updates on sports happenings as well as doing a background check if possible so as to know how to go about the gambling. And also to know the right teams to support as well as options to opt for while gambling inorder to make the right choices.

Writing exams is not the same as gambling, writing exams have nothing to do with luck it's all about learning and doing maths, yes you could fail if you are not prepared for the examination but it's way better than gambling, because even if you are prepared for gambling, do data analysis as you want you will still lose money, that's because gambling is luck oriented while passing examination is all about reading and learning.

The difference between reading to pass an examination and to risk money on gambling is night and day.

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April 29, 2025, 04:13:58 PM
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But does doing all that really increase our chances of winning, or more specifically, make us profitable?
I believe you are talking about sports betting, because in games like slots for example, you just spin the wheel. So my answer to your question above is that it depends, i.e. if a football club has a dead rubber game, it would help you to have that information before placing a bet on them, because the manager would probably play with a weaker squad.

However, this does not increase your chances of winning all the time, you could make all of your analysis and lose, the part luck plays is far bigger than that of any analysis you can do.

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April 29, 2025, 04:20:55 PM
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People say we have to put in some effort to study a certain game before placing a bet. By study, they mean using different resources, checking the news, trends, rumors, and so on, because those are all important factors when capping games.

If we do all of that, it really means we're not being lazy.
But does doing all that really increase our chances of winning, or more specifically, make us profitable?
Studying increases your chances of winning a little but it is difficult to be profitable in the long run gambling is mostly based on luck. As you say doing these things is definitely not laziness when a bettor considers so many things before placing a bet he can be called diligent and aware. Researching a particular game before placing a bet is definitely a good habit it helps you make more informed and informed decisions view the world of betting as a part of entertainment and bet responsibly. You should not bet blindly in the hope of making extra profits.
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April 29, 2025, 06:22:51 PM
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If we do all of that, it really means we're not being lazy.
But does doing all that really increase our chances of winning, or more specifically, make us profitable?
Before betting, especially in sports betting, if someone analyzes the data well, then his experience will definitely increase, which will give him a better experience about his betting. There is nothing to neglect about this matter. Those who do this can definitely be a little ahead of winning. Although good analysis can never guarantee victory in betting because luck plays a big role in it. If someone is not lazy but analyzes them well and takes the right decision, they will win more than others. Analysis will not always be useful, but it should not be ignored. Even if there is a loss after analyzing, it should still be accepted.











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April 29, 2025, 08:16:22 PM
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Even if a gambler is putting effort to make analysis just like you described and another gambler is not putting any effort, there's still every possibility that they can not win or they could still have the same luck. I said so because gambling is a game of luck, that's a statement used by almost everyone and reality is that there are some gamblers that are still losing their bets even after putting effort in making analysis, I am example of such gambler. After putting effort on most of my prediction, I still lose without favours of my effort.
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People say we have to put in some effort to study a certain game before placing a bet. By study, they mean using different resources, checking the news, trends, rumors, and so on, because those are all important factors when capping games.

If we do all of that, it really means we're not being lazy.
But does doing all that really increase our chances of winning, or more specifically, make us profitable?
If you do have that questions in mind then you are the ones who could be able to answer it out on which if you do find your own ways on trying out to make some sports betting then
its normal that you do need up to make out some analysis on which you cant just that blindly choose up your team or player to bet on. If you do just that simply pick out without
any applying any analysis then you are just that basically doing zero analysis on which its not that entertaining at all or something that could be fun because you have just that made out
some blind bets. Do making out some effort on trying to find for analysis? Of course it would be that relevant, this isnt just like when dealing up with some casino games that
everything that relies purely on luck.
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April 29, 2025, 08:59:39 PM
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Yes, analysis is needed to increase the chances of winning, especially when we talk about sports betting.

A gambler who places a random bet with a gambler who analyzes the team that will play, tries to find a comparison of the previous match history, looks at the strategy and the players who will play, of course has a greater chance of profit, although in the end it cannot be separated from hope for luck, but at least he has tried, even if in the end he loses, at least he will know what caused his defeat to increase the chances in the upcoming match.

And one thing to note, when analyzing the whole and very in-depth, it has the potential to get a bigger disappointment when losing, so if you consider gambling only as entertainment, it is better to do a basic analysis without wasting too much time.

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April 29, 2025, 09:02:00 PM
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This isn't some sort of space or rocket science that needs to be studied diligently as though you are studying to write an exam. I can really say that not winning has anything to do with laziness, you just have to do the best you can and leave the rest. Gambling wouldn't always be in your favour and go according to your predictions. Some of us believe our analysis too forgetting that it's the future we are predicting. Don't always expect to get it right. Your win might come through luck
You probably don't understand how sports betting works, and that's why you are making it sound like it's just like casino games where you place your bet and press the button to see what you get without having to do anything because it doesn't need you to do anything at all since it's all based on your luck and you can't change your luck no matter what you do.

In sports betting, luck might have some influence, but it doesn't mean you should make bets blindly and expect to win most of your bets, because that's not how it works. If you think I'm just saying, then you should try it. Make a budget of $100, and make 10 random bets of $10 on any sport you like. Remember, you can only bet on games where you don't know the teams or players at all because you bets need to be completely random.

At the end, you should see the results. And after that, do the same thing with the same budget but choose games where you know which side is better, and then compare the results. You will see the difference.

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April 29, 2025, 09:17:35 PM
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People say we have to put in some effort to study a certain game before placing a bet. By study, they mean using different resources, checking the news, trends, rumors, and so on, because those are all important factors when capping games.

If we do all of that, it really means we're not being lazy.
But does doing all that really increase our chances of winning, or more specifically, make us profitable?
Of course yes especially if it's a sports betting, being analytical will make a difference, and if you're trying to win means it can make you profitable than blindly betting some teams you don't know or just basing with the audience. If you're trying to make a difference like using a lot of tools and data that will help you to choose the right bet, then yes, it's profitable.

Also, the topic is very subjective, sometimes gamblers already know where to bet and what's good and bad in sports betting, so they're not used to some research if that specific sport is their hobby, of course you don't need to study all of the possibilities.

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April 29, 2025, 09:37:01 PM
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People say we have to put in some effort to study a certain game before placing a bet. By study, they mean using different resources, checking the news, trends, rumors, and so on, because those are all important factors when capping games.

If we do all of that, it really means we're not being lazy.
But does doing all that really increase our chances of winning, or more specifically, make us profitable?
Of course yes especially if it's a sports betting, being analytical will make a difference, and if you're trying to win means it can make you profitable than blindly betting some teams you don't know or just basing with the audience. If you're trying to make a difference like using a lot of tools and data that will help you to choose the right bet, then yes, it's profitable.

Also, the topic is very subjective, sometimes gamblers already know where to bet and what's good and bad in sports betting, so they're not used to some research if that specific sport is their hobby, of course you don't need to study all of the possibilities.

AI is definitely helping people in this realm to become even more laz... Efficient!  Grin

I've been using it for some quick and dirty summaries, it's actually pretty decent for things like that. I know it's still a game of chance, so to speak, but it definitely helps you make smart  decisions.

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 #113

People say we have to put in some effort to study a certain game before placing a bet. By study, they mean using different resources, checking the news, trends, rumors, and so on, because those are all important factors when capping games.

If we do all of that, it really means we're not being lazy.
But does doing all that really increase our chances of winning, or more specifically, make us profitable?
Surprisingly you are saying exactly the opposite of your title. Or maybe you've made mistake and you wanted to say is it true that you don't win if you're too much lazy? You should also replace gambling by betting, because for gambling you don't need to do such things most times, the probabilities are always the same(except in very few table games) and the payout never changes. When you bet on sports it's different from gambling games, you need to evaluate the likelihood of the outcome to happen and to guess if the payouts offered are interessing or not for such risk.

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Yes, at least we have tried before placing a bet. It does increase the chances of winning. But remember, in gambling, there is no guarantee of winning. So, no matter how hard you try, there are some X factors that may have an effect, sometimes they are in accordance with expectations and also targets, but on the other hand they are often outside our target.

So, when the results are different and there is a defeat even though we have done various analyses before, then that is also beyond our control, because there is an X factor that has an effect.

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Overly motivated would be a thing, chasing your own tail cant end well, that kind of meta is fair.   Lazy could also be incorrect and lead to mistakes also but probably the more common mistake is being overly responsive to the game which then plays you instead of you playing it.   You got to step back sometimes to observe and play better, I think everyone gets that feeling sometimes but whether we have the will and judgement to execute that strategy well is another matter often not :p

 
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But does doing all that really increase our chances of winning, or more specifically, make us profitable?
No. The winning chances will remain the same. By studying and researching you will only be able to manage your bankroll more efficiently, what means it's likely to last longer, as you avoid wasting it on worthless or desperate bets. However, on long term the most likely scenario is that you will still lose money the more you play.

Of course to be lazy isn't a good thing, so make sure to spend time and energy on something which will bring you positive results along the time the more you dedicate yourself to this. And gambling isn't one feasible choice, as your effort won't mean much, considering outcomes are random and unpredictable, doesn't matter how hard you try.

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People say we have to put in some effort to study a certain game before placing a bet. By study, they mean using different resources, checking the news, trends, rumors, and so on, because those are all important factors when capping games.

If we do all of that, it really means we're not being lazy.
But does doing all that really increase our chances of winning, or more specifically, make us profitable?

If we are referring to sports betting, in particular on football, then yes, the chances of a lazy bettor seem to be lower than those of a non-lazy one. On the other hand, a lazy person can simply copy the bids that are popular. This is an analogy to copy trading.

In general, even a thorough study of everything and everything does not guarantee profitability. The only guarantee of profitability is the possession of insider information. This is available to an extremely limited number of people, where we, ordinary gamblers, for the most part, do not enter.
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No. The winning chances will remain the same. By studying and researching you will only be able to manage your bankroll more efficiently, what means it's likely to last longer, as you avoid wasting it on worthless or desperate bets. However, on long term the most likely scenario is that you will still lose money the more you play.

Of course to be lazy isn't a good thing, so make sure to spend time and energy on something which will bring you positive results along the time the more you dedicate yourself to this. And gambling isn't one feasible choice, as your effort won't mean much, considering outcomes are random and unpredictable, doesn't matter how hard you try.

Hard work will matter in other things where practice matters a lot, like in sports, music or other similar things. And in betting, you can spend hours studying a match, and then some force majeure will happen that will affect the outcome of the match and it will be an accident that could not be taken into account before the match and it does not matter how much time you spent on its analysis 15 minutes or 3 hours. And if we talk about other games, then only luck will matter there...

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April 30, 2025, 10:01:38 AM
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If you want to bet on sports, then you must have sufficient knowledge about it. If you do not have any idea about this and apply other strategies, the results will not be in your favor in gambling. Even if you do not know much, you should at least know how the team you are betting on is performing or how the team that is your opponent is performing. If you do not have any idea about these general things, then you will not understand where to start gambling or which team to bet on. Many people often say that in gambling, luck determines the victory or defeat, but I will always be on the opposite side of this statement. If gambling was directly dependent on luck, then any inexperienced person would win by gambling, but it is seen that only those who have a good idea about gambling or who are skilled enough succeed in gambling, especially in sports betting.

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April 30, 2025, 10:11:36 AM
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Winning in gambling is mostly a thing of luck, I have seen where several research is been done and yet no single slip is been won, but sometime cheeking analysis is also good when making prediction to know their previous winning and loss also cheeking head to head though sometimes it doesn't work while sometimes it does work.

But is good to have a better knowledge about gambling I believe this will make you have more winning percentage than not having even having some basic knowledge about gambling.

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