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Consider this the official thread for posting your choices as to which nonprofit charitable organizations shall be reached out to in having them embed a Bitcoin donation option onto their respective websites. I've listed the first ten, offered up by one of the users, to get your creative juices flowing. As suggestions pour in, I'll simply add them to the list. During the course of this action, I may periodically rearrange the list as well as add notes after their names. Keep the suggestions flowing!
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December 22, 2011, 06:59:37 PM |
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These are the charities I have donated to this year, in no particular order:
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December 22, 2011, 07:36:11 PM |
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These are the charities I have donated to this year, in no particular order: Great start! I'll have my alter ego add them to the list. ~Bruno~
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December 22, 2011, 08:16:53 PM |
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December 22, 2011, 08:51:22 PM |
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December 23, 2011, 01:15:19 AM |
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I've added it to the list. Thank you, gsan, for your input. In conjunction with your (the reader) suggestions, feel free to chime in as to why a certain nonprofit organization should, or should not, be on the list. At the very least, suggest where it should be placed on the list--moved up or place toward the bottom. ~Bruno~
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December 23, 2011, 03:42:51 AM |
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Medicins Sans Frontieres (doctors without borders)
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Thanks, julz. It's now on the list. Taking a look at their donation page http://www.msf.org/msf/donations/donations_home.cfm#USAI couldn't help but notice that MSF doesn't accept donations directly. You must donate to a specific region. NPR is set up like this, also. You're able to support a region, but not able to donate to NPR directly without first inquiring. That said, Doctors Without Borders is the name of the MSF here in the US: https://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/donate/
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December 23, 2011, 05:21:49 AM |
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hmm, MSF even accepts stocks. Something one would assume would be more technical for them to work with than Bitcoin. Not to mention the donor info is not attached to the transfer from donor brokerage to theirs. Those things would make it hard for them to reasonably deny accepting Bitcoins imho. https://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/donate/stock/
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December 23, 2011, 07:17:05 AM Last edit: December 23, 2011, 08:10:17 AM by Bitcoin 100 |
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hmm, MSF even accepts stocks. Something one would assume would be more technical for them to work with than Bitcoin. Not to mention the donor info is not attached to the transfer from donor brokerage to theirs. Those things would make it hard for them to reasonably deny accepting Bitcoins imho. https://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/donate/stock/I concur. But on which donation page and, moreover, how would the Bitcoin donation option text read or look it? I envision 650 children needing amoxicillin--yesterday!: https://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/donate/overview.cfm$500
Can purchase enough amoxicillin to treat a respiratory infection in 650 children. The quicker they agree to our proposal, the quicker we can help 650 children. To play Devil's advocate, let's pretend they say no. Would it be wise to ask if we can poll, let's say, 650 children suffering from a respiratory infection in a Third World country? Is this what I meant by 'proper leverage'? I've always liked Doctors Without Borders. In fact, I'm on record for donating twice (1 BTC each time), here on this BBS. I just now did it a third time, using this address 1L1t4WYUX6gzCLbyU6Tncutok76HX8o8s2 located here http://www.bitcoin-charity.com/charities/ Currently it reads Doctors without Borders
7.03250000 BTC Donated
Anonymous Donation Address: 1L1t4WYUX6gzCLbyU6Tncutok76HX8o8s2 Doctors Without Borders/Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) is an international medical humanitarian organization working in nearly 70 countries to assist people whose survival is threatened by violence, neglect, or catastrophe. but after my 1 BTC gets confirmations, the grand total should change. ~Bruno~ EDIT: It's there now: http://blockexplorer.com/address/1L1t4WYUX6gzCLbyU6Tncutok76HX8o8s2
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December 23, 2011, 05:58:00 PM |
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hmm, MSF even accepts stocks. Something one would assume would be more technical for them to work with than Bitcoin. Not to mention the donor info is not attached to the transfer from donor brokerage to theirs. Those things would make it hard for them to reasonably deny accepting Bitcoins imho. https://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/donate/stock/I concur. But on which donation page and, moreover, how would the Bitcoin donation option text read or look it? All of them. A button to 'Donate With Bitcoins' that linked to a page for Bit-Pay processing and allowed you to select any options for your funds they may have. I found this part interesting and wonder if Mr. William Donas would be a good point of contact to speak about Bitcoins. Many mutual funds cannot be transferred directly into our account. If you are interested in making a gift of mutual funds please call 212-679-6800 and ask to speak with William Donas in the Donor Services department.
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December 23, 2011, 06:20:34 PM |
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Can we add ChildFund to that list?
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If you're not excited by the idea of being an early adopter 'now', then you should come back in three or four years and either tell us "Told you it'd never work!" or join what should, by then, be a much more stable and easier-to-use system. - GA
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December 23, 2011, 08:00:14 PM |
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Moved here from the main Bitcoin100 thread for serious discussion here. Was thinking last night about what the criteria is for donations so will pose the question as follows. i.e., this is a very low key org, not like the competing church mission with it's million/year budget. Would it qualify?
Depends! Website? Years on line? Reach? Backlinks? Basically those key questions for starters, with possibly a few minor ones to follow. http://dcm.org.nz/Links/nightshelter.htmlNot sure about all the questions, but the link points in the right direction I think. Attention, all!: Serious discussion is warranted here!I was pondering some of the implications of considering size of the charity. My wife and I also give regulary to small, local causes. Most of which don't have a means to collect funds from outside of their communities. I don't see any reason not to include smaller ones on the list as long as they have some sort of web presence and accept monetary donations. Maybe we could snip this whole segment and port it over to the Charity List for further discussion? cheers I'm currently under the impression that PatrickHarnett owns this site or, at the very least, is directly connected to this organization, neither of which is relative if that so be the case, but would beg the question as to why a Bitcoin donation option is not already embedded on the website. Good idea on exporting this, Derek.
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I moved this here for serious and kind discussion: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=53684.msg661044#msg661044[Not sure what you've been smokin', but I put it on the list 2 days ago. (or was it later?) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi414.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fpp229%2Fchickpeaax%2Fgifs%2Flies.gif&t=665&c=b9-ZV6p5JlQH0w) I was posting the above, then I re check, I see the edit and norml was listed, but there was no way I wasn't going to not use that gif, not now not then not ever. Double negatives. I am not optimistic about the majority voting this as a cause to donate for, but I can hope people would look past their personal ideals and remember they are in this for the promotion of Bitcoin, and I have no doubts I could easily argue why Norml not only deserves it more than most any of the other charities listed so far, with a big point imo, is the user base fact. This is peanut butter and jelly here. If you go down the list of charities suggested so far, ask yourself "Would Against Malaria Foundation use Bitcoin?" who knows and who cares. Exactly. Where when you see Norml, it's probably the only organization that would not only take Bitcoin, but possibly take it upon themselves to educate their donators on Bitcoin, something I cannot see all other sites doing, at most putting up their 'We Accept Bitcoins' png More Bitcoin users means more Bitcoin users can donate. Again, check the lists of charities people, is there another one listed that will truly promote Bitcoin on top of actually changing the world itself, which in turn effects ever other charity listed ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I moved this here for serious and kind discussion: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=53684.msg661044#msg661044Solution Time!!! I feel that all your points are valid. But, for there's always a but, in this case it's a butt (or is it a blunt?), we're still dealing with a delicate subject matter. That said, I offer up a solution, one I hope you will like. I say we pursue this in the same manner the other charities and nonprofits will be pursued, with only a couple modifications. First, in normal practice, a pool of 100 BTC will be waiting for transfer once a charitable organization agrees to the terms. I propose that in Norml's case, no such pool will be available until after the dialog process begins and the kind folks over at Norml are ready to go with embedding a Bitcoin donation option onto their website. I further propose that a separate pledge thread be set up for this idea, where nobody donates bitcoins--just pledge. Secondly (and you're going to love this), the goal is not 100 BTC or $100, but exactly $420 (think April 20th) when converted from BTC. Once Norml embeds the desired text and logo(?), the funding of the wallet will commence, notifying the pledgers. With that, I pledge 10 BTC toward this cause. Now, BP, do you want to maintain the thread for keeping track of the pledges or should I? And how much do you pledge? One more thing: You're in full control of trying to persuade Norml to come on board--with my full support. Does this sound reasonable to you, BP? ~Bruno~ EDIT: I just noticed that this is my 2269th post and was intended for BitcoinPorn, yet not planned.
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December 24, 2011, 06:38:53 PM |
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The following are the relative posts carried forward to this thread from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=53684.0Accept my apology for that not having the quoted posts properly contributed. Of my three choices: www.givedirectly.orgPro: May push Bitcoin into a country where transferring money internationally is problematic, i.e. pretty much exactly what Bitcoin was designed to do. Might help establish a working Kenyan shilling <-> Bitcoin exchange. Con: May be difficult for the charity to exchange Bitcoin for local Kenyan currency. www.againstmalaria.comPro: International donations, seems fairly simple and direct type of charity, connections with (exposure to) lots of other high-profile organizations and charities Con: Rather complicated and convoluted donation page. The Bitcoin option may not even be noticed by others. www.nyayahealth.orgPro: $300 can do A LOT in that part of the country. Simple, easy donation page. Con: Don't know enough yet. Was watching Letterman tonight and Matt Damon talked about the charity he founded called http://water.orgI looked it up and it looks like a great idea/charity to me. I also think it is about the right size and having a celeb on board would not hurt. Hell, I love NORML. Working to reform draconian drug laws and cut down on the world's largest prison population. Nothin' wrong with that.
And +1 on Water.org. Two for Norml so far! If Archive.org can get support, why not Norml? Noticed no mention in the other thread
If there are votes for causes, should there be votes against causes?
I know if religious people are willing to accept marijuana users, I would be willing to donate to any cause for the promotion of Bitcoin, but if there are others that have reservations because of personal issues with an organization, or what defines a charitable organization, I would like to exercise that right too, as I do not want any of my Bitcoin to go toward any groups that have strong affiliations with a God or religion of any kind, especially if it is in the name of the organization. Sorry to dump this working somebody else, but could somebody please do a search for India charity school kids and research some of the charities? Downside to India is there's a lot of corruption and scamming there. Upside to this idea is giving kids schooling is secular, and something that would be supported by both rabid socialists and extremist objectivists. It's just a good idea in general. The benefit to bitcoin is publicity if the charity is fairly well known, and education about bitcoin in India, where it is sorely needed due to PayPal pulling out of India last spring, making it hard for people to send money there. I will now pen brief comments for the above and add them to the list if they're not linked already. ~Bruno~
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December 24, 2011, 06:59:59 PM |
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I guess there's no need for me to pen brief comments as I stated above. The charity suggestion list in the OP has been updated with a clearer look. Feel free to add your suggestions to this thread as well as comment on the ones already suggested. I'll update the list accordingly.
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December 25, 2011, 03:30:07 PM |
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With that, I pledge 10 BTC toward this cause. Now, BP, do you want to maintain the thread for keeping track of the pledges or should I? And how much do you pledge?
One more thing: You're in full control of trying to persuade Norml to come on board--with my full support.
Does this sound reasonable to you, BP?
Not at all lol. Only because of lack of focused time I would feel I could actually dedicate toward this, and I would honestly want to make sure the project itself keeps focused and is done right than half assed because I have other shit to do and can't get on the forum. It sucks though, as I think there is something here that maybe would be kind of an extension of what is going on with Bitcoin100 that would be a specific focus on Norml, because they are a kind of special case as far as their relation to Bitcoin and the underground markets that support Bitcoin on top of some of those same underground people support Norml. I back up anyone who takes on this task, I hope there is some highly motivated pothead reading this who wants to make a change in this world ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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December 25, 2011, 03:54:22 PM |
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With that, I pledge 10 BTC toward this cause. Now, BP, do you want to maintain the thread for keeping track of the pledges or should I? And how much do you pledge?
One more thing: You're in full control of trying to persuade Norml to come on board--with my full support.
Does this sound reasonable to you, BP?
I hope there is some highly motivated pothead reading this who wants to make a change in this world ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Maybe I could get my wife to do it. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) On that note she has reminded me three times now to ask for inclusion of; Autism Speaks This is another one we are biased towards....
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