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May 06, 2025, 10:36:59 AM
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I get your point though but just like Pi-network314159 said we need Luck to win irrespective of our knowledge or skills. Gamble isn't like other types of game where a single player or contestant could result to the overall best because he is skilled and have practiced alot. Besides gamble is wide and when making reference we should outline the part of gamble we're talking about, when it comes to casino games there is no amount or knowledge that could give you an edge in wining it's all luck, but in case of sport betting or poker you also need luck to win but your knowledge could help you stand a better chance of getting lucky on your bet or game.

You're right. Skills can be useful in poker; knowledge and experience can be used in sports betting, and, even though luck is also has its importance in both of these, they are not completely reliant on luck unlike casino games where you don't need knowledge, skills, or experience, because all you do is decide how much you want to bet, and press a button and that's it, the result is generated for you with a random number generator and nothing can change it and nothing could influence it unless the casino is cheating and changing your wins into losses but that's a whole different discussion.

People who try to force win in gambling need to have this knowledge because we often see people trying too hard to make money from gambling and that too using casino games, they should know that it's both logically and technically impossible for someone to make profits in the long run from a casino game even if they feel like they are winning in the short run, it's only an illusion and nothing else.

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May 06, 2025, 10:50:49 AM
Last edit: May 06, 2025, 01:41:46 PM by Swordsoffreedom
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People who try to force win in gambling need to have this knowledge because we often see people trying too hard to make money from gambling and that too using casino games, they should know that it's both logically and technically impossible for someone to make profits in the long run from a casino game even if they feel like they are winning in the short run, it's only an illusion and nothing else.

You are right. I don't think it is possible to earn money from casinos in the long run. I also can't deny, many people have become rich by gambling in casinos. However, this number is very small. We see most gamblers losing money. Since gambling is largely dependent on luck, those who are lucky can earn money from casinos. However, it is very difficult to make money in the long run.
On the other hand, the matter of sports gambling is different. If we are experienced enough, it is not impossible to earn money from sports gambling. It is even possible in the long run. However, we must be experienced in sports and have the ability to analyze information and data correctly.

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if they feel like they are winning in the short run, it's only an illusion and nothing else.
You can't say it's only an illusion, People like to play casino games because they are entertained by them. Yes, money is important in our lives, but money is not everything; people earn money and spend those in casino to get mental peace.

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May 06, 2025, 11:15:15 AM
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It makes sense to rely on luck only in those games where everything is decided by chance, for example, playing slots. But in all other cases, especially in bets, when I place a bet I don’t think about luck at all, but when I watch a match I certainly hope that the team I bet on will be luckier. Because not only players, but also teams need luck, a good shot or a mistake by the opponent’s goalkeeper, these are all chances. I don’t know if luck decides or not, but it matters too.

Luck won't come all the time. Then you need a strategy to win. So luck plays a lesser percentage of strategy. So I think strategy is an important factor. So don't expect luck alone, you also have to work hard with the strategy, it will be better. But there is indeed gambling done by the system, the strategy does not have a great influence. So only the influence of luck plays a major role. Because I heard that many slot games have scripts that have been set to win. Even though we also have a few strategies, for example setting the bet amount to minimize losses. I think there are a lot of differences in the game and it requires different strategies.

Luck is why so many people love gambling. Luck can come suddenly, like in a game of poker, when all the cards on the table are open, a poker player with weak hands suddenly gets a great combination, and the guy with kings and aces is left with a weaker combination of cards. And this reminds me of slots.

I understand that this is a strange comparison, but you must admit: the stop of the reels in the slots, when the heart stops after each result is very similar to each card opened on the table. This is the moment of excitement and the finish of the game, which partially reveals the result, and in the end it becomes clear: the victory came or not.

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May 06, 2025, 05:29:21 PM
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I notice that this has been repeating all the time, but I take it as a sign that it’s really common. New people here probably take the time to post it because it also concerns them. I don’t know; I don’t like it because you could easily search for it, but we are here now.

I agree that you don’t have to rely on luck and just play. It will just make you feel bad, and you will find a way to blame luck as the source of your losses, but it’s just what’s happening.

The topic about luck will keep coming up in different questions and ideas because it's a part of gambling that cannot be overemphasized on and like you said new people would probably post because it concerns them as they delve into exploration I'm gambling. Instead of feeling bad for just relying on luck it's better for anyone feeling this way to just focus on games that are are a little based on skills, winning these games are not hundred percent sure but it would be more better.

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May 06, 2025, 06:26:32 PM
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Luck is an important aspect of gambling that can't be separated, it doesn't matter the type of games we bet on St some point we would always hope to get lucky. Have you ever parlayed a lot of games on a bet slip and you have only one more game left for your ticket to boom but that game isn't going I'm the direction of your prediction. At times like this you would forget about skills but hoping to get lucky. Luck would always be an important factor in gambling.











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May 06, 2025, 07:06:55 PM
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Today there is a game between Inter and Barcelona. Imagine that you are someone who never analyzes games, you just count on luck. Then today someone gives you $10 to bet on this game. You decide to bet on Barcelona to win without analyzing the game. But another person who analyzes games before placing bets

They also give you $10 to bet on this game and they bet that both teams will score. At the end of the game, if you guess right, you will think that your luck will help you win in the next games. Try it in 10 more games and you will see that you will lose a lot. But the person who analyzes games can win a lot if they bet on 10 games.

Games of chance, such as sports betting and card games, are based only on skill and not on luck. Casino games and lotteries are based on luck.

I’m afraid I don’t quite agree with you. Yes, I agree that one with skill is most likely to win more than those who has absolutely no skills or does no analysis. I think it is foolish to completely depend on luck without first having any knowledge or skill in the game you bet on. If you check my reply above, you’d see that I said that anyone who has skills and an effective technique is most likely to be more successful in gambling, but you tell me that a gambler can depend on their skills completely without relying on luck too.

I’ll agree that card games may not really require that much of luck because success in card games requires the gambler’s ability to study, analyze and effectively predict their opponent’s next move and also quickly come up with a counter strategy, in this type of game, you’re in charge and your success depends solely on how good your strategy is, but sports betting is totally different, because a team whom you feel you’ve studied pretty well may lose form at any time and all your predictions and analysis would be voided, and at this point don’t you still need luck?

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May 06, 2025, 08:01:28 PM
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When a person gambles, it depends on the plan he will gamble according to, winning in gambling is not all about luck. All that is needed to win in gambling is planning, money control, risk taking, and experience. By maintaining all these things, when a gambler participates in gambling, that gambler will immediately have the possibility of winning.
You will notice that sometimes weak teams can win against strong teams. I am mainly talking about sports betting. Sometimes, with the help of luck, in many cases, you can win, but here experience is most needed, but in gambling, the gambler must remember that gambling is not for making money but for fun, then addiction can be saved.
But at times no matter how a person get knowledge and experience pass in gambling winnings most be under the luck, because the risks that involved in gambling the planning and experience cannot control them and that’s why I said the winning in gambling is base on the luck; if to say the winning in gambling is by having knowledge and experience I don’t think peoples will lose in gambling ever they bet in gambling. Because they’ve already been experts about gambling.

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But at times no matter how a person get knowledge and experience pass in gambling winnings most be under the luck, because the risks that involved in gambling the planning and experience cannot control them and that’s why I said the winning in gambling is base on the luck; if to say the winning in gambling is by having knowledge and experience I don’t think peoples will lose in gambling ever they bet in gambling. Because they’ve already been experts about gambling.
The thing is that a player who wants to improve his skills and learn new things should make efforts where it will increase his chances of winning, or rather where it is possible. For example, this is control of his gaming budget, the ability to stop unquestioningly after losing a certain amount, etc., a player will be able to do these things better than others, and only luck will remain without influence, because it is impossible to do. Nevertheless, professionals sometimes arise and not only because luck is on their side, it means they can do something better than other players.

 
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In my opinion, both gambler and bettor need luck. For the gambler luck plays the main role. He can reduce the impact of luck on performance but for this he needs to follow a good strategy, set long-term goals and be highly disciplined. Unfortunately, not every gambler can afford it, especially when playing spontaneously and constantly changing his strategy. Bettor needs luck as much as a gambler because we have all been surprised many times from the results of seemingly win-win matches. Luck in such cases is crucial.  Wink
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No one will refuse luck, when I started to get involved in gambling, I began to think more about the importance of luck in our lives, not only in gambling. There are people who are luckier, and I began to notice that these are more positive people who more easily perceive all the difficulties that are on their way. Maybe luck is the result of our perception, if we are simpler in our attitude to life, we will attract luck to ourselves?

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In my opinion, both gambler and bettor need luck. For the gambler luck plays the main role. He can reduce the impact of luck on performance but for this he needs to follow a good strategy, set long-term goals and be highly disciplined. Unfortunately, not every gambler can afford it, especially when playing spontaneously and constantly changing his strategy. Bettor needs luck as much as a gambler because we have all been surprised many times from the results of seemingly win-win matches. Luck in such cases is crucial.  Wink
Bettor works with long term. Luck can increase or decrease his win rate, but if his calculations based on luck - it is bad bettor. When i started betting, i included in calculations -10% win rate. And today i can say that it was excessive.
Of course, if you`re "lucky" it will be nice bonus to your profit, i could see "lucky" or "unlucky" months. But for 1.5 years medium win rate was just 2% less than i planned.
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No one will refuse luck, when I started to get involved in gambling, I began to think more about the importance of luck in our lives, not only in gambling. There are people who are luckier, and I began to notice that these are more positive people who more easily perceive all the difficulties that are on their way. Maybe luck is the result of our perception, if we are simpler in our attitude to life, we will attract luck to ourselves?

It depends on the situation. Sometimes, when you're feeling down and things aren't going well, you still have that 1% of hope that luck will come your way  and it actually does. More relaxed and positive people, like you mentioned, will just accept difficulties more easily. Luck can come when you least expect it, and no matter how relaxed, positive, or the opposite you are, i believe you can't really influence luck.

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No one will refuse luck, when I started to get involved in gambling, I began to think more about the importance of luck in our lives, not only in gambling. There are people who are luckier, and I began to notice that these are more positive people who more easily perceive all the difficulties that are on their way. Maybe luck is the result of our perception, if we are simpler in our attitude to life, we will attract luck to ourselves?
Actually everybody need luck and it doesn't have to be on gamble alone. However everything someone is doing is risky so we actually need luck that's why we wish for the best in everything we do daily. Although there are somethings we need strategies to make success but I do not think it's for gamble because strategy doesn't make you a winner in gamble.

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Actually everybody need luck and it doesn't have to be on gamble alone. However everything someone is doing is risky so we actually need luck that's why we wish for the best in everything we do daily. Although there are somethings we need strategies to make success but I do not think it's for gamble because strategy doesn't make you a winner in gamble.
That's right, we all need luck, and not just in the area of ??gambling, but also in life. If we look at just the simple things in life, we need it. How many of us have had bad luck in choosing a woman throughout our lives? When we find the ideal one, we take great care of her In sports Betting, in casino Games, we always need very good luck to win. It's incredible, but luck is what is most needed in Everything to reach triumph a little faster.


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In my opinion, both gambler and bettor need luck. For the gambler luck plays the main role. He can reduce the impact of luck on performance but for this he needs to follow a good strategy, set long-term goals and be highly disciplined. Unfortunately, not every gambler can afford it, especially when playing spontaneously and constantly changing his strategy. Bettor needs luck as much as a gambler because we have all been surprised many times from the results of seemingly win-win matches. Luck in such cases is crucial.  Wink
Some may not agree with your opinion that luck plays a major role in winning in gambling. Experienced gamblers are able to choose strategies to win and reduce the amount of losses. I agree with you that gamblers should be disciplined and gamble with a long term goal in mind. Some gamblers gamble for a limited time to test their luck and they lose most of them temporarily. Due to the possibility of losing later, they become irregular in maintaining consistency in the game and cannot focus on their goals and they blame luck instead of trying themselves. Luck plays an important role in winning but there is a huge difference in the decision-making of experienced and inexperienced gamblers in the actions before betting.

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May 12, 2025, 07:55:17 PM
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A lot of us say that if we want to win, we need luck. But is that really how it works?
I mean, luck isn’t something we can control or predict, it just comes when it wants, and sometimes, not at all.

So maybe it's time to stop relying on luck to win. Instead, focus on strategy, do your homework, and enjoy the game.
And if it’s a game where luck really decides everything (because of the house edge), then treat it for what it is, entertainment, not a money-making plan.
If you think luck is nothing and prediction is important for a gambler then why people loss after placing bet on the predicted team. I think prediction is a good thing which is very much essential for the users but it can't make the final result of the bet and that's why we can't say all the gambling sites/game is depends on prediction hence I think it fully depends on luck.











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May 14, 2025, 03:05:32 PM
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A lot of us say that if we want to win, we need luck. But is that really how it works?
I mean, luck isn’t something we can control or predict, it just comes when it wants, and sometimes, not at all.

So maybe it's time to stop relying on luck to win. Instead, focus on strategy, do your homework, and enjoy the game.
And if it’s a game where luck really decides everything (because of the house edge), then treat it for what it is, entertainment, not a money-making plan.
If you think luck is nothing and prediction is important for a gambler then why people loss after placing bet on the predicted team. I think prediction is a good thing which is very much essential for the users but it can't make the final result of the bet and that's why we can't say all the gambling sites/game is depends on prediction hence I think it fully depends on luck.

This thread on luck has made me remember the Monty Hall problem from statistics...

You’re on a game show (Let's make a deal, here in the USA). Three doors. Behind one is a car. Behind the others, a goat. You pick Door #1. The host, who knows what’s behind the doors, opens Door #3—and it's a goat.

And so you are asked: stick or switch?

Most people say it doesn’t matter. “Now it is 50/50”

But that’s wrong....

If you switch, your odds are 2/3. If you stay, just 1/3.

Why is this?

Because the host’s action isn’t random.
It reveals information. It’s not “luck” — it’s Bayesian probability in action.

This scenario is often cited as a case where “just trust luck” isn’t always rational. Real-world situations often feel random, but they’re shaped by hidden structures and decisions. Once you know that, you start to see that what we call “luck” is often just misunderstood information....
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May 14, 2025, 03:16:56 PM
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It depends on the situation. Sometimes, when you're feeling down and things aren't going well, you still have that 1% of hope that luck will come your way  and it actually does. More relaxed and positive people, like you mentioned, will just accept difficulties more easily. Luck can come when you least expect it, and no matter how relaxed, positive, or the opposite you are, i believe you can't really influence luck.

Those who play until the last minute and do not want to stop definitely hope that they will be lucky, otherwise they would have stopped earlier. Luck is needed by everyone and always, even by those who rely only on themselves, but those who know how to assess risks will not proceed from the most unfavorable situation, even think about what will happen if my bet loses, how difficult it will be for me, from this position you need to assess everything.

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May 14, 2025, 03:59:06 PM
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It depends on the situation. Sometimes, when you're feeling down and things aren't going well, you still have that 1% of hope that luck will come your way  and it actually does. More relaxed and positive people, like you mentioned, will just accept difficulties more easily. Luck can come when you least expect it, and no matter how relaxed, positive, or the opposite you are, i believe you can't really influence luck.

Those who play until the last minute and do not want to stop definitely hope that they will be lucky, otherwise they would have stopped earlier. Luck is needed by everyone and always, even by those who rely only on themselves, but those who know how to assess risks will not proceed from the most unfavorable situation, even think about what will happen if my bet loses, how difficult it will be for me, from this position you need to assess everything.
You should not gamble constantly, thinking you are always lucky, you need luck to win in gambling and luck will not always be with you, or you will not be lucky as per your expectations and you will not be able to win as per your expectations. You think that you will be lucky in the next game, but no, you will keep losing like this again and again, and at some point you will face huge losses. No one can ever win without luck, so you should never be overly optimistic about winning, strictly follow your limitations, in the meantime if you are lucky then you will win, otherwise a gambler should never cross the limit.

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May 14, 2025, 04:13:02 PM
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This is a subject that involves an ontological question...

Is there chance as an ontological thing? Is there a cause-and-effect relationship? Does water always boil at 100 degrees? Is there such a cause-and-effect relationship? Is cause and effect inherent or transcendent in nature?

I think OP is an empiricist... I think there is such a thing as chance, and it is an entity in the world of ideas, and all the chances in the world get their quality of being chances from its reflection... :)


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