India vs Pakistan

[Jewan420]

Murder is the most heinous crime. Innocent civilians have died in all the places they have attacked. Religious places of worship have also been attacked. Punishment is definitely desirable if one commits a crime, but there is no proper evidence for the crime of which Pakistan is being found guilty. It would have been better if the United Nations had sought justice and investigated and brought the criminals to justice, but we could not have imagined that India would get involved in a war like this. This would collapse the economies of both countries.

The reason given by India to get involved with Pakistan is not yet proven and I think this is India's ploy to get involved in a conflict with Pakistan. Even some Indian media are saying that this is Narendra Modi's ploy so that they can get involved in a conflict with Pakistan and can separate Muslims from India and the Muslim superpower Pakistan. Atrocities on Muslims in India are not new and their violence against Pakistan is not new either.

I think that the main reason for the violence with Pakistan is not the partition of India and Pakistan in 1947, but this violence has increased because Pakistan is a Muslim state and India is a Hindu state. Especially since Modi's BGB Hindutva political party came to power, the anger of Indian Hindus against Muslims is increasing. In India, you will find a lot of evidence of atrocities on Muslims including the destruction of mosques. You will not even find any Muslim state that is a friend of India. Even the neighboring countries do not have good relations with them only because of their arrogance and religious differences. I see religious differences as the main reason for this conflict with Pakistan.

[virasog]

I saw  India launched some missiles, and i see the how their missile exploded at pakistan, and yet nothing happen to the crypto as it doesn't give impact to the US. Even though US stands to the india.

That's why i think this india vs pakistan conflict is not giving a big impact as big as russia vs ukraine. Crypto market is still relatively stable now.

Pakistan isn't a big country and hence if you put missiles at Pakistan, it won't have any effect on the market. This is just like you hit Iran or Syria and stock / cyprto market shows no reaction. However, there is now every possible chance that Pakistan will retaliate and if they attack India then it could have some impact on the risky assets too but it won't be long lasting one.

Also, both these nations, India and Pakistan, have nuclear bombs, and if this conflict is not sorted and escalated then we might have a risk of a much bigger war and it can turn into World War 3, though right now the chances of it are very slim.

[welovebit]

I think that the main reason for the violence with Pakistan is not the partition of India and Pakistan in 1947, but this violence has increased because Pakistan is a Muslim state and India is a Hindu state. Especially since Modi's BGB Hindutva political party came to power, the anger of Indian Hindus against Muslims is increasing. In India, you will find a lot of evidence of atrocities on Muslims including the destruction of mosques. You will not even find any Muslim state that is a friend of India. Even the neighboring countries do not have good relations with them only because of their arrogance and religious differences. I see religious differences as the main reason for this conflict with Pakistan.

BJP came in power in 1976 with their roots are long with they killed Gandhi and also have many other things through RSS and then VHP, so I strongly believe they are still not accepting Pakistan as state this is main reason.
In last 50 years Indian all elections are having Pakistan factor due to BJP so its main reason behind this even they well aware they can't do anything but due to few big players they have done this and now having themselves in serious trouble because they were expecting good response from world, but just Israel is with them many others are criticizing this Pakistan can give them good response, and they surely will do in near future.

Masjid Subhaan
Masjid Bilal
Masjid Abbass
Masjid Um-ul-Kura
village Kotli Loharan

Attacking on these places clearly indicating what is mindset of these coward peoples and what they are thinking even their Foreign Minister frequently talking about democracy and human rights, but this attack is clearly giving impression about their policies.

[MusaPk]

Modi and his party are the most radical people in India, specially when it comes to Muslims. They have been regularly attacking and oppressing Muslims in India.

It's unfortunate to see that diplomatic talks didn't work and Modi went ahead with launching an attack on Pakistan, an attack which initial report show civilian casualties including a dead child. And when we see Israeli terrorists celebrating and picking a side:

the situation becomes clearer for us.

Also when simultaneously we see US backed separatist/terrorists attack Mangocher city in Pakistan in coordination with India, it becomes even clearer that my initial speculation in this topic was very true:

armed conflict ... is what the US regime wants (I personally believe the Keshmir terrorist attack was CIA's work, there is just too much evidence suggesting it).

P.S. Preliminary reports indicate that Pakistan has already shot down 6 Indian fighter jets! Which is another thing we talked about regarding PAF superiority...

There is lot of disturbance going on in Balochistan province and the main actors behind that unrest is India along with US. The main reason of creating unrest in Balochistan province is to sabotage the CPEC (China Pakistan Economic Corridor) project that is joint venture of Pakistan and China.  

Indian got the 4.5 generation Rafael fighter aircraft from France to gain air superiority over Pakistan but it's a fact that PAF pilots are flying Rafaels in Qatar long before India got them from France. Earlier this morning PAF has successfully shot down 6 Indian aircraft's and videos of most of them are circulating on social media but western media is not covering it up since they are siding with India.
India has targeted Pakistan mainland cities like Bahawalpur, Muridke in province Punjab. This is first time in 50 years that India has targeted cities across international border and Pakistani governmetn today has given it's army complete authority to strike back.

[Bitcoin Smith]

There is lot of disturbance going on in Balochistan province and the main actors behind that unrest is India along with US. The main reason of creating unrest in Balochistan province is to sabotage the CPEC (China Pakistan Economic Corridor) project that is joint venture of Pakistan and China.  

Indian got the 4.5 generation Rafael fighter aircraft from France to gain air superiority over Pakistan but it's a fact that PAF pilots are flying Rafaels in Qatar long before India got them from France. Earlier this morning PAF has successfully shot down 6 Indian aircraft's and videos of most of them are circulating on social media but western media is not covering it up since they are siding with India.
India has targeted Pakistan mainland cities like Bahawalpur, Muridke in province Punjab. This is first time in 50 years that India has targeted cities across international border and Pakistani governmetn today has given it's army complete authority to strike back.

What India did was a retaliation to what happened in Pahalgam from Pakistan terrorist organization and it's not a secret anymore that Pakistan is supporting these terrorist organization which was proven in the Mumbai bombing case itself. And the news of shot down aircrafts from pakistan is blatant lie, there is no evidence suggests that other than Pakistan. India should have retaliated sooner is what everyone's opinion about this Operation Sindoor. I usually avoid in these political debates but there is no way anyone can validate the attack on the civilians a couple weeks back.

A country is accountable for any terrorist organization operating inside their range and if they fail to stop them then the country has to bear the damages.

I think that the main reason for the violence with Pakistan is not the partition of India and Pakistan in 1947, but this violence has increased because Pakistan is a Muslim state and India is a Hindu state. Especially since Modi's BGB Hindutva political party came to power, the anger of Indian Hindus against Muslims is increasing. In India, you will find a lot of evidence of atrocities on Muslims including the destruction of mosques. You will not even find any Muslim state that is a friend of India. Even the neighboring countries do not have good relations with them only because of their arrogance and religious differences. I see religious differences as the main reason for this conflict with Pakistan.

BJP, the current ruling party with core principle of Hindutuva but it doesn't change the consittution of India and India is not a Hindu country, it is a secular nation though. India - Pakistan got long history and every time Pakistan was the one attacked India with their terrorist organization. I am not in support of war by any means but a country doesn't retaliate when there is security breach doesn't make sense.

The recent conflict with Bangladesh is due to the political reasons not because it is an Islamic country and FYI there won't be a country called Bangladesh if it's not for India.

[Cossyblack]

and thirteen people were martyred, thirty-five were injured, and two are missing

Masjid Subhaan
Masjid Bilal
Masjid Abbass
Masjid Um-ul-Kura
village Kotli Loharan

This says a lot about the "Western camp" when every regime that is defined in it, from US itself all the way to India, openly and shamelessly attacks civilian targets on this scale.

Murder is the most heinous crime. Innocent civilians have died in all the places they have attacked. Religious places of worship have also been attacked. Punishment is definitely desirable if one commits a crime, but there is no proper evidence for the crime of which Pakistan is being found guilty. It would have been better if the United Nations had sought justice and investigated and brought the criminals to justice, but we could not have imagined that India would get involved in a war like this. This would collapse the economies of both countries.

I don't support violence at any length,look out how innocent civilians were attacked in their place of worship. The missiles attacked from India didn't come as a surprise to me because the signs were very clear to be understood after India govt has already vows a retaliatory attack on Pakistan after blaming them for been responsible for the matry of Indian citizens. I was expecting absolute combat readiness from Pakistan military to foil any possible attacks from enemy territory. What happened to Pakistan military Air defense system HQ-9, FD2000 and S-400,with these powerful stationed air defenses system,how was the enemy missiles able to penetrate deep into Pakistan sovereign territory without been detected and intercepted by this defense missiles. I am going to blame Pakistan military for not doing enough to protect it's citizens against any sudden attacks from enemy territory. A Reprisal attack of double damaged is expected from Pakistan military against India would be very considerate to avenged the fallen. I believe places of worship, schools, hospital, media houses and any civilians populated areas should be ruled out of war zones, but India have broken that international rules and would get it  hots from Pakistan military soon than expected.

[STT]

All those wars mentioned are in some way related to a civil war conflict, at one time many decades ago the region of Pakistan and India were ruled as one.   Though going back years further still this area of land vast as it is has been divided as kingdoms with separate rulers for each.

 Palestine and Israel are really the same region but vastly different prospects, if they were really separate there might not be a war but same was said of the split causing Pakistan to come into existence and here we are talking about war again decades after that decision.


Relating to crypto no I dont think it will alter things beyond the normal strife ongoing around the world, as one war stops another starts sadly; the main difference is the quality and quantity of reporting on those civilians who suffer most.    The biggest danger both countries need to recognize with China as a neighbor they fight while in the jaws of a tiger waiting to snap them both up as a meal.

[philipma1957]

India 🇮🇳 and Pakistan 🇵🇰 will always fight as long as they exist.

I am sorry they heated up to the missile level.

Since they both can shoot nukes here is hoping they don’t.

It would be nice to force peacefulness on them but this is not the way of the way.

To the forums members directly affected by this I hope it comes down to just this and nothing more.

[Yokkattannee]

India 🇮🇳 and Pakistan 🇵🇰 will always fight as long as they exist.

I am sorry they heated up to the missile level.

Since they both can shoot nukes here is hoping they don’t.

It would be nice to force peacefulness on them but this is not the way of the way.

To the forums members directly affected by this I hope it comes down to just this and nothing more.

Indeed, that is something that needs to be resolved immediately. Don't let something unwanted happen, even though the conflict is far from our country, Pakistan and India are very worried about their current condition, and it could escalate into a bigger war with both of them having nuclear weapons, there needs to be a mediator country to have a dialogue in order to calm down the country with nuclear power mentioned.

[snowpega]

This says a lot about the "Western camp" when every regime that is defined in it, from US itself all the way to India, openly and shamelessly attacks civilian targets on this scale.

Mate, you have gotten my point of saying, and you have said all in only one line. Mate, do you know India murders innocent people just like Israel is doing in Palestine, and in answer to this, Pakistan has not attacked any civilian of India. What Pakistan has done is just a defensive attack on the LOC and destroying some jets of India. I was listening to a speech of a Pakistani Army officer that he was saying that now we will reply to India in our own way, and nobody knows what that way will be.

Last night, I saw some post on social media that brought tears to my eyes. Those pictures were of those innocent and fragile babies that were martyred by the Indian army. Let me share it with you. For now I can share with you a beautiful one because the other one I saw was the hidden face of a baby girl that was martyred.

Source: I took SS of this image from social media

Well, I was also listening to news that India has showed up with white flags at LOC, but this act is also a part of their game, as after that I read a tweet that a senior officer of the Indian army said on his Twitter account that this game is just not ended. India is acting just like Israel, as you also know that, mate. Israel has eaten a lot of innocent people's lives. America backs Israel, and Israel backs India and they all are part of the same picture.

[EarnOnVictor]

With tensions rising between India and Pakistan, how would an all out war between these nuclear powers impact crypto markets and global finance? Short term crash or flight to digital assets?

It's obvious that this war is not negative to the crypto market, it has rather helped the formerly falling Bitcoin rise back and it even almost hit $100,000 today. However, the currency market are unaffected by it, nothing so serious is happening there, other than Gold which has been selling in the wake of this war.

Will this reaction on Bitcoin and Gold last? Time will tell, but I don't expect this war to last longer than expected. The world will douse it from the two sides before it escalates.

[DanWalker]

I saw  India launched some missiles, and i see the how their missile exploded at pakistan, and yet nothing happen to the crypto as it doesn't give impact to the US. Even though US stands to the india.

That's why i think this india vs pakistan conflict is not giving a big impact as big as russia vs ukraine. Crypto market is still relatively stable now.

It will not have as big an impact as the war between Russia and Ukraine because Russia has a more significant impact on the world economy than India. Russia is one of the world's leading energy powers and global energy supplies were disrupted by that war. Meanwhile, India and Pakistan do not play as important a role as Russia, but both possess nuclear weapons, and if the war escalates and a nuclear conflict occurs. It will be much more serious than you think, we should not ignore that factor and underestimate the war.

The fighting has begun but it does not appear to have escalated into a full-scale war. So it's too early to say it won't have any impact on the world economy. But let's hope that this is just a retaliation and will stop soon instead of becoming a full-blown conflict like between Russia and Ukraine.

[SATWAT]

I saw  India launched some missiles, and i see the how their missile exploded at pakistan, and yet nothing happen to the crypto as it doesn't give impact to the US. Even though US stands to the india.

That's why i think this india vs pakistan conflict is not giving a big impact as big as russia vs ukraine. Crypto market is still relatively stable now.

It will not have as big an impact as the war between Russia and Ukraine because Russia has a more significant impact on the world economy than India. Russia is one of the world's leading energy powers and global energy supplies were disrupted by that war. Meanwhile, India and Pakistan do not play as important a role as Russia, but both possess nuclear weapons, and if the war escalates and a nuclear conflict occurs. It will be much more serious than you think, we should not ignore that factor and underestimate the war.

The fighting has begun but it does not appear to have escalated into a full-scale war. So it's too early to say it won't have any impact on the world economy. But let's hope that this is just a retaliation and will stop soon instead of becoming a full-blown conflict like between Russia and Ukraine.

Different views and minds here about this conflict which is now turning into war because this is favorable for big players those are selling their ammunition specially recently France had big dealt with India while Pakistan is always depended on China and Turkey.
Here I agreed about few points but still this could be huge human conflict which will bring disastrous for humanity with religious factors are always had their own agenda currently India is had some advantages and their religious powerful which are in power needs to bring something proud able because they faced many humiliations under Muslims rules so now they are looking for some honor which give them psychological edge.
I am feeling they need to sit and talk, but it's not working and also looking not possible Modi always under pressure due to vote bank and his aide also wants something bigger which can be gone wrong as well.

[avp2306]

With tensions rising between India and Pakistan, how would an all out war between these nuclear powers impact crypto markets and global finance? Short term crash or flight to digital assets?

It's obvious that this war is not negative to the crypto market, it has rather helped the formerly falling Bitcoin rise back and it even almost hit $100,000 today. However, the currency market are unaffected by it, nothing so serious is happening there, other than Gold which has been selling in the wake of this war.

Will this reaction on Bitcoin and Gold last? Time will tell, but I don't expect this war to last longer than expected. The world will douse it from the two sides before it escalates.

Nothing seriously happen on Bitcoin market since we see that market is doing good despite of those crisis happening on some parts of the world. It seems that investors became mature to deal with certain issues in the world and now how to handle not only their emotions but also investments.

But actually there war already exist for decades, then to bad that they made progressive attack to hit each other. To bad citizens since they are the one will get affected so much in this war. We don't know how it will end up but I do hope that they enter on good settlements and decide to stop this war because it didn't bring anything good to both of their country.

[Die_empty]

With tensions rising between India and Pakistan, how would an all out war between these nuclear powers impact crypto markets and global finance? Short term crash or flight to digital assets?

It's obvious that this war is not negative to the crypto market, it has rather helped the formerly falling Bitcoin rise back and it even almost hit $100,000 today. However, the currency market are unaffected by it, nothing so serious is happening there, other than Gold which has been selling in the wake of this war.

Will this reaction on Bitcoin and Gold last? Time will tell, but I don't expect this war to last longer than expected. LolThe world will douse it from the two sides before it escalates.

I am also very surprised that the escalations between these two countries didn't affect the market negatively. This might be an indication that the US, China and EU economies have more influence over the global economy.

It could also mean that moat investors have the same sentiment that this conflict will not last for a long time. There are already discussions between both parties to ensure peace and stability in that region.

[pooya87]

Murder is the most heinous crime. Innocent civilians have died in all the places they have attacked. Religious places of worship have also been attacked. Punishment is definitely desirable if one commits a crime, but there is no proper evidence for the crime of which Pakistan is being found guilty. It would have been better if the United Nations had sought justice and investigated and brought the criminals to justice, but we could not have imagined that India would get involved in a war like this. This would collapse the economies of both countries.

Well the problem was that Modi wasn't really looking for those really responsible for the terrorist attacks in Keshmir, he was obviously looking for an excuse to start this armed conflict with Pakistan. Otherwise real investigations takes at least a week or two to come to an actual conclusion! However, India immediately blamed Pakistan and started planning the attack.

Modi needed this very much domestically. His economic decisions have been terrible and has led tens of million of Indian into absolute poverty. A large number of Indians aren't happy with him. And what can united a nation and make them forget about the mess their government created better than a foreign enemy, eh?!

Earlier this morning PAF has successfully shot down 6 Indian aircraft's and videos of most of them are circulating on social media but western media is not covering it up since they are siding with India.

Yeah, I saw that too. As I had predicted a week ago, Pakistan airforce is better and PL-15 beyond visual range air-to-air missiles were really effective in hunting down NATO made military aircrafts.
And once again this proved that Western products may be good but they are nowhere nearly as good as they are advertised.

I was expecting absolute combat readiness from Pakistan military to foil any possible attacks from enemy territory. What happened to Pakistan military Air defense system HQ-9, FD2000 and S-400,with these powerful stationed air defenses system,how was the enemy missiles able to penetrate deep into Pakistan sovereign territory without been detected and intercepted by this defense missiles. I am going to blame Pakistan military for not doing enough to protect it's citizens against any sudden attacks from enemy territory.

No Air Defense is capable of providing 100% protection. They can all be penetrated. It also comes down to how many batteries Pakistan has and what percentage of their airspace it covers and against what types of projectiles and how many of them.

[Olatundespo]

With tensions rising between India and Pakistan, how would an all out war between these nuclear powers impact crypto markets and global finance? Short term crash or flight to digital assets?

It's obvious that this war is not negative to the crypto market, it has rather helped the formerly falling Bitcoin rise back and it even almost hit $100,000 today. However, the currency market are unaffected by it, nothing so serious is happening there, other than Gold which has been selling in the wake of this war.

Will this reaction on Bitcoin and Gold last? Time will tell, but I don't expect this war to last longer than expected. LolThe world will douse it from the two sides before it escalates.

I am also very surprised that the escalations between these two countries didn't affect the market negatively. This might be an indication that the US, China and EU economies have more influence over the global economy.

It could also mean that moat investors have the same sentiment that this conflict will not last for a long time. There are already discussions between both parties to ensure peace and stability in that region.

I said in my previous post that if they go to war, it might not have a negative impact on the market situation, and I think it become be true. The price of Bitcoin is now increasing more than in the past few months and is likely to be more aggressive. The increase or decrease in the price of Bitcoin may have an effect on the economy of the American and European countries, but I am not yet sure whether the price of Bitcoin will go to a negative level if the economic situation of those countries really deteriorates.

I think this conflict will not last long, both sides have suffered a lot and the two countries have had national security discussions and they will want to resolve the problem through quick negotiations.

[avikz]

With tensions rising between India and Pakistan, how would an all out war between these nuclear powers impact crypto markets and global finance? Short term crash or flight to digital assets?

It's very concerning indeed and it's underestimated by most people, especially the medias and politicians. But if a war starts between this 2 countries many markets will fall and the inflation will soar another time unfortunately. And I'm not even sure it will benefit to Bitcoin because when large markets fall Bitcoin and other crypto assets don't resist very long time usually, especially when technology markets are impacted. It would also be interesting to look how gold markets could react, because gold is held by many people in those countries.

The war has started and crypto is going to see a huge boost. India and Pakistan, both a highly populated country and India has a huge population who uses cryptocurrency or regularly invest in it. So when the stock market falls, people will move their assets to Bitcoin or some other good cryptos.

Right now, Pakistan is in a very bad condition, financially. Their government is running on IMF aid. So India will win this war pretty easily. My only worry is that, big nations like US or China shouldn't join the war. It will then become a world war which will eventually bring down the economy of the world.

A lot to watch and understand. Things are changing from time to time.

[virasog]

The war has started and crypto is going to see a huge boost. India and Pakistan, both a highly populated country and India has a huge population who uses cryptocurrency or regularly invest in it. So when the stock market falls, people will move their assets to Bitcoin or some other good cryptos.

I don't believe that the war between these countries would be a bullish event. Also, why would people buy Bitcoin (if the stocks are declining) in the time of war? People would prefer to take precautions and measures to survive themselves and don't care to keep an eye on the market or buy crypto or stocks. Rather, I would say that some of the people may sell crypto to buy excessive food and other life saving items. The day-to-day necessary items may get in short supply, so people would prefer to be in cash rather than in risky assets.

[Jewan420]

Right now, Pakistan is in a very bad condition, financially. Their government is running on IMF aid. So India will win this war pretty easily. My only worry is that, big nations like US or China shouldn't join the war. It will then become a world war which will eventually bring down the economy of the world.

It is not as easy as you are declaring India the winner of the war. Pakistan's economic condition is certainly not very good, but Pakistan's military power is not less than India's. Financial capacity certainly plays a big role during a war, but if you ignore military power and declare any country as the winner of the war, you are definitely making a big mistake. To win a war, the military needs patriotism and fearlessness, from which I will definitely put Pakistan ahead. I even have big doubts about whether this war will be limited to two countries?

Pakistan Air Force's JF-17 Thunder, F-16 Fighting Falcon, Mirage III, Shaheen and Babur missiles, Wing Long II (drone) and RAAD (air launched cruise missile) It will not be easy for India to resist these powerful weapons. India is much ahead in terms of military power and they are quite strong. But Pakistan is capable of defeating India strategically. We cannot even ignore the issue of close military relations with China and Turkey.