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January 07, 2026, 02:44:56 PM
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Not everyone is suited to trading, trading is very risky and can lead to losing money very quickly. If we don't have sufficient experience and are limited in trading, holding is a wise choice to build wealth without high stress.
Yes I agree with your sentiment here mate, trading is not for everyone, but that is one thing most people haven't come to terms with, they actually don't know that patience is one key trait all trader must have, but the sad reality is that not every trader has patience.

Furthermore, sufficient experience guarantees nothing in trading because in the end, your knowledge in technical and fundamental analysis determines your decision making, so what am trying to say is that experience or not,  the most important thing is knowing what to do at the right time, because in trading, even veterans traders lose money too, so your experience is not a guarantee of being a profitable trader.
But with holding, it's a lot easier as long as the investor have the desire to hold strong for long.

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January 07, 2026, 03:41:53 PM
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Furthermore, sufficient experience guarantees nothing in trading because in the end, your knowledge in technical and fundamental analysis determines your decision making, so what am trying to say is that experience or not,  the most important thing is knowing what to do at the right time, because in trading, even veterans traders lose money too, so your experience is not a guarantee of being a profitable trader.

Nevertheless, sufficient experience usually ensures that a trader adheres to risk management. In this case, if the technical and fundamental analysis turned out to be wrong and the price moves in the opposite direction to expectations, your deposit will not be liquidated, and the loss will be minimal.

 
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January 11, 2026, 06:36:52 PM
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BTC is now 90902 usd, 0.0035 BTC is 318.16. I have BTC 0.0036294(329.92/318.16).

My investment return is 3.70 %. It could be above average return (for ca 4-5 months, on average) if we were in the stock market, but in the cryptocurrencies context it is really not worth mentioning. Here the significant returns begin from 200%.

I found the "Bitcoin rainbow chart" that is an excellent idea though I am not agree with its implementation - the angle of the curve. He has extrapolated the angle of the BTC price rise curve from the past but this is not correct. I calculated the angle by myself using the BTC nowadays adoption rate (that is 0.5-2%) and the BTC price with 100% adoption in nowadays USD purchasing power (that is 500 000 - 2 000 000 USD). I exploited the prices of the USA dollar and gold as the assets with ca 100% adoption rate.
(In 2010 Hal Finney estimated that the maximum price of the Bitcoin could be 10 000 000 USD/BTC if all the  world assets (worth 100-300 trillion USD at this time) would be converted into the Bitcoin. I admit that in the case of this scenario I am wrong.)


As a result I made my own Bitcoin rainbow chart where we are with ca 90 000 USD/BTC in the darkest orange ("Sell. Seriously, SELL!") territory. 126 000 USD/BTC was even outside the red ("Maximum Bubble Territory"). The "HODL!" territory would be in about 30 000 USD range.


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January 14, 2026, 04:15:36 PM
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Hi.

I got 0.001 BTC (worth today about 100 USD) from www.freebitco.in and I plan to make a small experiment with it. I will try, is it possible to increase this initial BTC amount (0.001) with trading: selling then BTC is overvalued and buying then BTC is undervalued.

I believe that Bitcoin will be worth at around million USD in 2040, but meanwhile it will be much much cheaper than today (hundred thousand USD). Is my holding then worth 1000 USD? Or more? Or less?

With great excitement,
Jaanus

Freebitco.in site holds an emotional significance for me, as I earned a large amount of money through it a few years ago. At that time, it was very popular. Did you earn those dollars through the lottery? From the way you ask, it seems you are not experienced in crypto trading, so I would suggest holding it for the long term, as we know BTC will continue to grow day by day. But none of us can say for sure that its price will reach a million dollars by 2040. So, if you can hold it for a few years, your $100 may turn into $1000, as per your expectations. It is not possible to say for sure at this moment. Best wishes to you.

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January 14, 2026, 07:29:02 PM
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The two are better but holding is very good and is profitable. The more years you hold your Bitcoin it will give you more opportunity to decide the price you wish to trade out your Bitcoin to achieve a nice income. You can't avoid dagger in the market when you are trading but if you are holding your Bitcoin you can avoid anything that will make you encounter losses.
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January 31, 2026, 10:04:27 PM
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The end of January 2026. BTC is now 78168 usd, 0.0035 BTC is 273.59. I have BTC 0.0042206 (329.92/273.59x0.0035).

My investment return is 20.59 % ((329.92/273.59)-1).
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January 31, 2026, 10:38:07 PM
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The two are better but holding is very good and is profitable.
People make profits from both holding and trading, and I will say thats the main goal of both traders and investors, what everyone is after is profit.

What I know about bitcoin investment is that it’s less risky compare to when you are trading. If you are holding bitcoin for long term, then the risk is less because you don’t have to be doing any analysis before you invest in bitcoin, if you want to invest just make use of DCA strategy, you have to be investing gradually and you don’t have to monitor bitcoin price before investing.

If you are trading, then it’s more risky than investing because when trading, you have to properly analyze the market before you enter a trade, and when you do that you might still end up losing, so I just prefer investment more than trading.
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January 31, 2026, 11:44:31 PM
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The end of January 2026. BTC is now 78168 usd, 0.0035 BTC is 273.59. I have BTC 0.0042206 (329.92/273.59x0.0035).

My investment return is 20.59 % ((329.92/273.59)-1).
You're still in profit despite that the market has dipped so much today.

If you are trading, then it’s more risky than investing because when trading, you have to properly analyze the market before you enter a trade, and when you do that you might still end up losing, so I just prefer investment more than trading.
Trading is riskier than investing or holding because what you'll have to do is nothing when you hold. You're not going to do anything against the market but instead, you'll just buy if you see that there's an opportunity to do that. That's why if you're going to choose to an investor, it's a good yet slow growth is in there but very rewarding in the long run.

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February 01, 2026, 12:56:47 PM
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It is interesting that the size of my portfolio (330 usd) is at the moment exactly the same as if we divide the whole crypto market cap by the number the world population. Therefore this crypto portfolio size is the most suitable - not too big, not too small.

For stock portfolio, 18 000 usd is the proper size  Smiley
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February 18, 2026, 09:12:15 PM
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The two are better but holding is very good and is profitable. The more years you hold your Bitcoin it will give you more opportunity to decide the price you wish to trade out your Bitcoin to achieve a nice income. You can't avoid dagger in the market when you are trading but if you are holding your Bitcoin you can avoid anything that will make you encounter losses.
We are watching cryptocurrency which is best of all currencies and we are watching AI future and many people are trusting on AI because AI will be powerful in the future and all people will take work from AI but Bitcoin price estimation is not an easy for anyone. People are that BTC will be at the 150k in this year but AI is not supporting that fact and that is looking not real but we saw huge pump in the market in last year but Price decrease is due to wars between different countries and when World will be stable we will see huge price increase and BTC will touch 200k$ . AI is controling all countries and many countries are trust on the AI and artificial intelligence will not be genuine because it is not ideal for many people.

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February 19, 2026, 04:27:52 PM
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The two are better but holding is very good and is profitable.
People make profits from both holding and trading, and I will say thats the main goal of both traders and investors, what everyone is after is profit.

What I know about bitcoin investment is that it’s less risky compare to when you are trading. If you are holding bitcoin for long term, then the risk is less because you don’t have to be doing any analysis before you invest in bitcoin, if you want to invest just make use of DCA strategy, you have to be investing gradually and you don’t have to monitor bitcoin price before investing.

If you are trading, then it’s more risky than investing because when trading, you have to properly analyze the market before you enter a trade, and when you do that you might still end up losing, so I just prefer investment more than trading.
Yes, both trading and holding try to make a profit. And in both methods, investors aim to make a profit. However, there is a difference between trading and holding, as well as a difference in risk. Trading is a short-term investment and holding is a long-term investment. In trading, an investor thinks that he will invest a large amount at once and take profit from it by taking advantage of market fluctuations. However, this task is very difficult. Understanding when it will fall and when it will rise is the real challenge. A wrong decision can cause a large amount of damage, while a correct estimate or decision can bring big profits. Regular market observation, analysis, and decision-making have to be done based on these, which creates mental stress. However, a regular investor never has to worry like this. Whether the market is low or high, he can invest regularly for a certain period of time without any worry. And regular investment is not affected by market fluctuations. Everyone's investment is their own decision, but they should make decisions based on their own financial position, risk capacity, and plan.

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February 19, 2026, 05:47:43 PM
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Yes, both trading and holding try to make a profit. And in both methods, investors aim to make a profit. However, there is a difference between trading and holding, as well as a difference in risk. Trading is a short-term investment and holding is a long-term investment. In trading, an investor thinks that he will invest a large amount at once and take profit from it by taking advantage of market fluctuations. However, this task is very difficult. Understanding when it will fall and when it will rise is the real challenge. A wrong decision can cause a large amount of damage, while a correct estimate or decision can bring big profits. Regular market observation, analysis, and decision-making have to be done based on these, which creates mental stress. However, a regular investor never has to worry like this. Whether the market is low or high, he can invest regularly for a certain period of time without any worry. And regular investment is not affected by market fluctuations. Everyone's investment is their own decision, but they should make decisions based on their own financial position, risk capacity, and plan.

One more thing I want to add regarding trading and investment is that while investment can be done by both newbies and experienced users, the trading is strictly recommended for advance crypto users. If a newbie want to do crypto trading then he must invest as much as he can afford to lose i.e. start with very small capital because even experienced users are not able to handle wide fire of crypto trading at times. The risk factor significantly increases as we jump from long term investment to trading but it is also a act that profit in trading will be huge if done properly.

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February 19, 2026, 07:31:43 PM
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One more thing I want to add regarding trading and investment is that while investment can be done by both newbies and experienced users, the trading is strictly recommended for advance crypto users. If a newbie want to do crypto trading then he must invest as much as he can afford to lose i.e. start with very small capital because even experienced users are not able to handle wide fire of crypto trading at times. The risk factor significantly increases as we jump from long term investment to trading but it is also a act that profit in trading will be huge if done properly.
Specific difference regarding the trading and investment, for the beginner or newbies easily to be investor by investing in bitcoin or altcoin but difficult to be trader or trading any coins in cryptocurrency because need much experienced if want to earn profit trough scalping way. Usually the trader has much experienced not get problem with trading and take profit as soon as possible.
To be long term investment in cryptocurrency actually not difficult yet after investing and then waiting long moment to take profit and the newbies can do it as basic way how to start investing in crypto.


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February 19, 2026, 10:13:32 PM
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One more thing I want to add regarding trading and investment is that while investment can be done by both newbies and experienced users, the trading is strictly recommended for advance crypto users. If a newbie want to do crypto trading then he must invest as much as he can afford to lose i.e. start with very small capital because even experienced users are not able to handle wide fire of crypto trading at times. The risk factor significantly increases as we jump from long term investment to trading but it is also a act that profit in trading will be huge if done properly.
Specific difference regarding the trading and investment, for the beginner or newbies easily to be investor by investing in bitcoin or altcoin but difficult to be trader or trading any coins in cryptocurrency because need much experienced if want to earn profit trough scalping way. Usually the trader has much experienced not get problem with trading and take profit as soon as possible.
To be long term investment in cryptocurrency actually not difficult yet after investing and then waiting long moment to take profit and the newbies can do it as basic way how to start investing in crypto.

Compared to trading, which is quite risky due to volatility, holding is truly on a whole new level because your capital is much more stable. It takes a long time to learn how to trade properly, and most people are aware that continuously turning a profit is difficult.

Although both are beneficial to practice, their learning curves are different. To hold, simply purchase Bitcoin, exercise patience, maintain discipline, and conduct basic research.
However, trading? Anyone who engages in that process will find it to be extremely taxing.

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February 23, 2026, 03:07:30 PM
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Nevertheless, sufficient experience usually ensures that a trader adheres to risk management. In this case, if the technical and fundamental analysis turned out to be wrong and the price moves in the opposite direction to expectations, your deposit will not be liquidated, and the loss will be minimal.
You are right, experience is the best teacher as they said, in which most people learn faster from experience, as it’s important for one to learn from their mistakes and make every necessary change that will support them in achieving their success in trading, because it’s not something that works through magic but by researching and understanding the risks involved and how to also manage them.

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You are right, experience is the best teacher as they said, in which most people learn faster from experience, as it’s important for one to learn from their mistakes and make every necessary change that will support them in achieving their success in trading, because it’s not something that works through magic but by researching and understanding the risks involved and how to also manage them.

It would be more acceptable for a deposit if a trader learns from the mistakes of others rather than his own. But apparently the way a person is built is that he remembers his mistakes better when he has to lose money at the same time, naively believing that this is a tuition fee.

 
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