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April 03, 2026, 12:46:36 PM
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We do not know when bitcoin will get to $1 million but we know that bitcoin would have increased if you hold it. Just see long term holding as a hedge against inflation but bitcoin will do justire than that.

As for trading, it is highly risky. You are a newbie, if you do not want to lose youriney, do not trade with it. Trade with the money that you can afford to lose.
He wants to experiment by buying BTC haha that's a good experiment but he could have even performed this experiment without holding haha. Anyway, there would be no fun then. He is doing a good experiment but I also doubt that by 2040 BTC price will be $1 million. Because $1 million can be hit by BTC even before 2040, it all depends on demand and supply.

But the way we are approaching, the adoption and investment, I think it is possible for BTC to hit $1 million and also not, if things go sideways, if the development starts to go backward haha, like the closure of AI software happening.

Being optimistic isnt bad as long you wouldnt be making yourself that react too much at the moment that you wouldnt be able to hit up your expectation or target. We've been through tons of speculation about this price like this and like that but if we do think up realistically then $1M price isnt something that would be easily be able to achieve or reach even if we do speak about 20 years or 30 years ahead. No one know on what would be the future but its best that you wouldnt be expecting and its always been the golden rule about when it comes to investing or trading on which you should be only investing into the amount that you can afford to lose so that it wont really be affecting out other things which are important. Make it sure that you wouldnt be putting up your life savings whenever you are trying out to deal with Bitcoin investment. As for potential then yes but speaking about assurance and security then there's no way that we can able to know on whats ahead.

When making some accumulation for long term then its best that you wouldnt be thinking about getting rich because it will always be basing up on how much you had invested. I do see other people say about getting rich or become millionaire on just having that $10 per week investment or  buyback. lol

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April 29, 2026, 05:35:32 PM
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I got 0.001 BTC (worth today about 100 USD) from www.freebitco.in and I plan to make a small experiment with it.

Would you mind sharing how did you get 0.001 BTC from Freebitco.in, please?


I am very sorry I did not noticed your question ! Now so much time has passed since it.
My answer is that I collected it piece by piece until the sum reached 100 000 satoshi and I withdraw that sum (minimum withdraw amount is 30 000 satoshi).
Getting 200 usd prize (in one game) is impossible as well as 20 usd. I collected all lower prizes.
FairMillions is much better nowadays - pays at least 10x more per year.
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April 29, 2026, 11:47:34 PM
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I believe that Bitcoin will be worth at around million USD in 2040, but meanwhile it will be much much cheaper than today (hundred thousand USD). Is my holding then worth 1000 USD? Or more?

Trading Bitcoin is a great risks especially for experiment as this you'll have to trade wisely else you'll keep accounting for your loses.the best decision is hodling Bitcoin that alone worth more, I know some see less advantage with holding Bitcoin cause it's long-term which is why they involve in trading so they can get in profits in a short whie.. better still hodling is the best decision.
Traders who want to make more profits in a short period of time through Bitcoin may have their expectations fulfilled for some time or if they want to make a small profit, it may also be possible to achieve it but to achieve this profit he will gradually develop a kind of tendency to make a profit. During the period of continuous buying and selling, he may rise to such a level that he may make wrong decisions in the hope of getting additional profits due to his instability. He may gradually fall into the same level of risk as gambling due to being excessively greedy, whereas accumulation Bitcoin for the long term would have been the best decision for that investor.

Trading is a huge risk If you know about this initially, your investment decisions will be likely to mature accordingly and there will be a focus on long term investments and the strategies you take.
Yes, our main objective behind starting trading is to make quick money, but when we start trading without thinking about anything and only hoping to make quick money, the possibility of losing money increases to a large extent. I think that achieving success in trading cannot be an easy work, for this, proper knowledge and market analysis are very important. Before starting trading, we need to understand well that there is a risk of losing extra money through trading, so it is wise to start training knowing this.
Investing in Bitcoin consistently with a long-term plan is the best decision rather than trading. If we invest only thinking about the present, we may get a small profit, but the risk of losing money is high. So investing with a long-term plan thinking about the future reduces the investment risk, and in the long run, profit can be expected from Bitcoin and valuable money can be protected from inflation.

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May 01, 2026, 04:53:48 AM
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May 1, 2026. BTC is now 77040 usd, 0.0035 BTC is 269.64. I have BTC 0.004283 (329.92/269.64x0.0035).

My investment return is 22.36 % ((329.92/269.64.38)-1).

The first year of my experiment is finished.
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May 01, 2026, 12:03:59 PM
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The two are better but holding is very good and is profitable. The more years you hold your Bitcoin it will give you more opportunity to decide the price you wish to trade out your Bitcoin to achieve a nice income. You can't avoid dagger in the market when you are trading but if you are holding your Bitcoin you can avoid anything that will make you encounter losses.
What you just need in hodling is patience to wait, and understanding of the volatility of the market and that's all but in trading their are more task to be successful in trading. But when it comes to hodling good profit can ba made and in trading profit can also be made, but it is important for one to decide if one is really ready to embrace the task of trading or hodling. They are both profitable but it is important to really know what you want , if you are ready or have the capacity for any of them.
I think the best understanding that hodlers should have about the market's volatility is that it should be completely ignored. Every hodler's should literally be focused on the long term, so anything that has to do with price change or volatility within the short term is best ignored, because they'll only distract you since the effects of these volatility is not even significant or doesn't contribute to your long term goals.

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May 03, 2026, 01:33:22 AM
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As you may know, trading will only lead to losses, but holding will not cause you any losses. In fact, you will only lose when you sell Bitcoin at a loss.

If you want to make your small amount of Bitcoin 100x or 1000x in the long run, then instead of trading, hold it.

Trading is a risky process that ultimately leads to losses, but holding will save you from those losses. Because, you will hold your coins until you find the right time and price to sell them.
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May 03, 2026, 08:13:01 AM
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As you may know, trading will only lead to losses, but holding will not cause you any losses. In fact, you will only lose when you sell Bitcoin at a loss.

If you want to make your small amount of Bitcoin 100x or 1000x in the long run, then instead of trading, hold it.

Trading is a risky process that ultimately leads to losses, but holding will save you from those losses. Because, you will hold your coins until you find the right time and price to sell them.

I support the view that trading is a risky process and that the majority of the end result is a loss. Meanwhile, long term holding is not without risk, but it help reduce risk exposure and offer the potential for more stable return over time

However, it should be noted that target should be set based on current market conditions. With Bitcoin current market cap at nearly $2 trillion, expecting a 100x increase is unrealistic. The era of getting rich quickly or multiplying your investment 100x or 1000x through long term holding is over.

 
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May 03, 2026, 11:23:23 AM
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The moderator of "Trading Discussion" proposed that I should remain to my original investment amount (0.001 BTC) instead of adding additional sums (like 0.0025 BTC from FairMillions on November 27, 2025) and I accepted.

Therefore I renewed my first-year-end-balance:
May 1, 2026. BTC was 77040 usd, 0.0001 BTC was 77.04.
Balance: 0 BTC, 103.36 USD.
My investment return was 34.14 % ((103.36/77.04)-1).

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May 03, 2026, 03:40:02 PM
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Hi.

I got 0.001 BTC (worth today about 100 USD) from www.freebitco.in and I plan to make a small experiment with it. I will try, is it possible to increase this initial BTC amount (0.001) with trading: selling then BTC is overvalued and buying then BTC is undervalued.

I believe that Bitcoin will be worth at around million USD in 2040, but meanwhile it will be much much cheaper than today (hundred thousand USD). Is my holding then worth 1000 USD? Or more? Or less?

With great excitement,
Jaanus


Many people have had this kind of plan in the past, but only a few succeed, because trading is not actually as easy as many people think. We always believe that the price of Bitcoin will drop and later increase, and it often happens. But the question now is: do you actually know when the price of Bitcoin will go down so you can buy it? And do you know when the price will increase so you can sell at the right time?This is where many people lose their money. It is always hard to predict when Bitcoin’s price will dip further, and it is not possible to buy Bitcoin at its lowest point during a given period. Those who want to buy low and sell high always aim for the absolute lowest price, but it is very possible not to get Bitcoin at that lowest price as planned. If the price keeps dropping, many people keep waiting and eventually miss out.

When it is time to sell, a person may have a target price, but even if they have the opportunity to sell at a good profit, they may still wait, hoping to sell at the highest price. While doing this, the price of Bitcoin may drop again, leading to losses, and they may then decide to sell.So, the way to enjoy making profit from Bitcoin is through investing, as it offers long term gains. However, I cannot say whether Bitcoin will reach one million dollars by 2040, as some predict. But what I can say is that the price of Bitcoin will likely continue to increase, and it may even surpass one million dollars.

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May 03, 2026, 04:48:05 PM
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Hi.

I got 0.001 BTC (worth today about 100 USD) from www.freebitco.in and I plan to make a small experiment with it. I will try, is it possible to increase this initial BTC amount (0.001) with trading: selling then BTC is overvalued and buying then BTC is undervalued.

I believe that Bitcoin will be worth at around million USD in 2040, but meanwhile it will be much much cheaper than today (hundred thousand USD). Is my holding then worth 1000 USD? Or more? Or less?

With great excitement,
Jaanus


Many people have had this kind of plan in the past, but only a few succeed, because trading is not actually as easy as many people think. We always believe that the price of Bitcoin will drop and later increase, and it often happens. But the question now is: do you actually know when the price of Bitcoin will go down so you can buy it? And do you know when the price will increase so you can sell at the right time?This is where many people lose their money. It is always hard to predict when Bitcoin’s price will dip further, and it is not possible to buy Bitcoin at its lowest point during a given period. Those who want to buy low and sell high always aim for the absolute lowest price, but it is very possible not to get Bitcoin at that lowest price as planned. If the price keeps dropping, many people keep waiting and eventually miss out.

When it is time to sell, a person may have a target price, but even if they have the opportunity to sell at a good profit, they may still wait, hoping to sell at the highest price. While doing this, the price of Bitcoin may drop again, leading to losses, and they may then decide to sell.So, the way to enjoy making profit from Bitcoin is through investing, as it offers long term gains. However, I cannot say whether Bitcoin will reach one million dollars by 2040, as some predict. But what I can say is that the price of Bitcoin will likely continue to increase, and it may even surpass one million dollars.

I am happy to see the post like yours. And I have been deliberately a little bit too provocative hinting that trading is like a piece of cake... partly just for getting such interesting answers.
I agree with you that it is not an easy game based my own experiences. Some say that social sciences are easier than real sciences but in fact it is exactly contrary: in social sciences (incl economics and business) the object under research changes itself during the research process and sometimes even deliberately fights against your hypothesis  Smiley There is no such thing as easy success here.
But the success is not impossible as well. The truth emerges in the competition between the researcher and his research object. This will probably become an interesting journey (and it already has been during the first year).

I am taking this 0.001 BTC experiment as seriously as if I had much much more money in the game.

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May 31, 2026, 09:11:00 PM
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June 1, 2026. BTC was 73596.50 USD, 0.001 BTC was 73.60

Balance: 0 BTC, 103.36 USD.

My investment return was 40.44% ((103.36/73.60)-1).
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July 01, 2026, 02:06:59 AM
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July 1, 2026. BTC was 58558.86 USD, 0.001 BTC was 58.56

Balance: 0 BTC, 103.36 USD.

My investment return was 76.51% ((103.36/58.56)-1).
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July 01, 2026, 02:37:28 AM
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We can only speculate on whether Bitcoin will increase in value in the future, but there are many logical reasons for the increase in value. You may personally believe that Bitcoin will be worth 1 million by 2040. There are many such estimates where analysts have different opinions and they have given reasons why Bitcoin should be worth 1 million in the future.

I welcome your plan to increase the amount of Bitcoin, but the trading strategy you have adopted is more likely to be ineffective. I would recommend you to adopt a long term investment strategy. Accumulate Bitcoin regularly through discretionary income and a long term strategy.

Trading is risky, so instead of being on the risky way, stay in Bitcoin investment for the long term and increase your holdings.











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July 01, 2026, 04:15:10 AM
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Hi.

I got 0.001 BTC (worth today about 100 USD) from www.freebitco.in and I plan to make a small experiment with it. I will try, is it possible to increase this initial BTC amount (0.001) with trading: selling then BTC is overvalued and buying then BTC is undervalued.

I believe that Bitcoin will be worth at around million USD in 2040, but meanwhile it will be much much cheaper than today (hundred thousand USD). Is my holding then worth 1000 USD? Or more? Or less?

From my personal experience in both trading and holding a crypto as an investment, what I think is more profitable in the long term is holding than trading, lets consider the fact that trading always comes with risk of losing, and what this means is that every day you open your laptop or unlock your mobile device to trade, there is the risk and chances that the trades for that day may end in loses.
But the advantage of trading over holding for long term is that trading provides a way of earning, making money every day for daily living and expenditures.

While investing is more profitable but requires more patience, and there is no way to earn like in trading, so what this means is that he who is investing must have another good source of income from which they can be making money for daily living while the wait out the years required for the investment to grow, and when the investment does grow and pay off, it's always better than the earnings from trading.

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Success has strong positive correlation with inside order and outside chaos.
Looks to me like you are speaking in parables, maybe you should consider expanding and or explaining what you mean by the above, because I am very sure I am not the only one who does not understand what you mean by this.

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July 02, 2026, 02:44:10 AM
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Hi.

I got 0.001 BTC (worth today about 100 USD) from www.freebitco.in and I plan to make a small experiment with it. I will try, is it possible to increase this initial BTC amount (0.001) with trading: selling then BTC is overvalued and buying then BTC is undervalued.

I believe that Bitcoin will be worth at around million USD in 2040, but meanwhile it will be much much cheaper than today (hundred thousand USD). Is my holding then worth 1000 USD? Or more? Or less?

From my personal experience in both trading and holding a crypto as an investment, what I think is more profitable in the long term is holding than trading, lets consider the fact that trading always comes with risk of losing, and what this means is that every day you open your laptop or unlock your mobile device to trade, there is the risk and chances that the trades for that day may end in loses.
But the advantage of trading over holding for long term is that trading provides a way of earning, making money every day for daily living and expenditures.

While investing is more profitable but requires more patience, and there is no way to earn like in trading, so what this means is that he who is investing must have another good source of income from which they can be making money for daily living while the wait out the years required for the investment to grow, and when the investment does grow and pay off, it's always better than the earnings from trading.

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NB! For any investor, the best situation is one where there is order inside and chaos outside. This is followed by situations of "order inside and order outside" and "chaos inside and chaos outside". The worst is "chaos inside and order outside".

Success has strong positive correlation with inside order and outside chaos.
Looks to me like you are speaking in parables, maybe you should consider expanding and or explaining what you mean by the above, because I am very sure I am not the only one who does not understand what you mean by this.

Chaos outside means that others see the world and markets as a mess - for example, many think that crypto assets have no (fundamental) value and many are not able to calculate it.
Chaos inside means that I see the world and markets as a mess - for example, I think that potential investors (those who are not insiders of the company) are not able to calculate its stock (fundamental) value.
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July 03, 2026, 03:17:38 PM
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As you may know, trading will only lead to losses, but holding will not cause you any losses. In fact, you will only lose when you sell Bitcoin at a loss.

If you want to make your small amount of Bitcoin 100x or 1000x in the long run, then instead of trading, hold it.

Trading is a risky process that ultimately leads to losses, but holding will save you from those losses. Because, you will hold your coins until you find the right time and price to sell them.
Trading is very risky where many have faced huge losses so it is always better to stay away from trading. But long-term investment is also not risk-free because here too you cannot guarantee to make a profit. However, according to past history, those who held for a long time have benefited, so there is a possibility of making a profit if you invest for a long time.

Anyway, I think it is impossible to make a profit of 100-1000× by investing in Bitcoin at the present time. Personally, I will be satisfied if I get a 3× profit by investing in Bitcoin at the present time.

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July 03, 2026, 04:37:43 PM
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We never know what will happen in the future; we can only speculate. If you assume that regarding future prices, simply multiply your capital by the potential increase you've estimated. I personally don't go into that much detail, but the point is, I hope Bitcoin reaches its all-time high, meaning several times the current all-time high, without mentioning the price.
Good luck with your accumulation, my friend.

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July 03, 2026, 09:08:29 PM
 #278

The two are better but holding is very good and is profitable. The more years you hold your Bitcoin it will give you more opportunity to decide the price you wish to trade out your Bitcoin to achieve a nice income. You can't avoid dagger in the market when you are trading but if you are holding your Bitcoin you can avoid anything that will make you encounter losses.
What you just need in hodling is patience to wait, and understanding of the volatility of the market and that's all but in trading their are more task to be successful in trading. But when it comes to hodling good profit can ba made and in trading profit can also be made, but it is important for one to decide if one is really ready to embrace the task of trading or hodling. They are both profitable but it is important to really know what you want , if you are ready or have the capacity for any of them.
I think the best understanding that hodlers should have about the market's volatility is that it should be completely ignored. Every hodler's should literally be focused on the long term, so anything that has to do with price change or volatility within the short term is best ignored, because they'll only distract you since the effects of these volatility is not even significant or doesn't contribute to your long term goals.
There is nothing wrong if bitcoin holders gets to understand how volatility works . This won't make them less of a holder or affects there investment in a negative way. So it is not a good thing if they decide to ignored market volatility, is same as ignoring that there is risk involved in investing in bitcoin which is wrong. All bitcoin investors both long term and short term investors are supposed to understand how market volatility works because it will definitely be of great help to them.

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