Trump, asked if he has to 'uphold the Constitution,' says, 'I don't know'

[₿itcoin]

You know honestly  I think our politics are nothing more then a fancy show put on by our worlds elite to keep the masses in check. The ones who are really running the country are going to be your telecommunications companies, your general foods distributors and your banking moguls. I really don't think any saudi princes care much about whos president. If its really fact that it was said this way and not misinterpreted then this guy really is in the seat for nothing more then business and not to pursue everyone of the masses vision of a greater world not just country. So personally I hate this because I did register for law school finally for as much as I hate politics I am going to see about getting myself into the politics just because there is change that needs to happen. This country is becoming a nation of zombies an gluttony. In my history books the 1776 constitution is the only one that matters it was written for the purpose of government not getting out of hand. So these ratifications or any of that other stuff it does not mean a damn thing to a real true US patriot who understands 2 main things an that was Mr Washington had a great vision an we're losing our country faster then we know it to dumb things like corporate greed, consumerism, capitalism etc.

I guess really America has to wake up and smell the roses but it is quite hard for that to happen when your working 60-70 hrs a week an barely getting enough to get by let alone put into a savings or risk in a stock market EFT.

[BADecker]

You know honestl  I think our politics are nothing more then a fancy show put on by our worlds elite to keep the masses in check. The ones who are really running the country are going to be your telecommunications companies, your general foods distributors and your banking moguls. I really don't think any saudi princes care much about whos president. If its really fact that it was said this way and not misinterpreted then this guy really is in the seat for nothing more then business and not to pursue everyone of the masses vision of a greater world not just country. So personally I hate this because I did register for law school finally for as much as I hate politics I am going to see about getting myself into the politics just because there is change that needs to happen. This country is becoming a nation of zombies an gluttony. In my history books the 1776 constitution is the only one that matters it was written for the purpose of government not getting out of hand. So these ratifications or any of that other stuff it does not mean a damn thing to a real true US patriot who understands 2 main things an that was Mr Washington had a great vision an we're losing our country faster then we know it to dumb things like corporate greed, consumerism, capitalism etc.

I guess really America has to wake up and smell the roses but it is quite hard for that to happen when your working 60-70 hrs a week an barely getting enough to get by let alone put into a savings or risk in a stock market EFT.

That's right! Politics is being used to confuse the masses of Americans.

Once the masses of Americans realize that men and women are not written in the laws, and that the word 'person' that is used in the laws really means 'artificial entity', they might start to make changes.

Office of the Person - https://redress4dummies.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/office-of-person1.pdf

The place where it is being put into effect: You Are Law - https://www.youarelaw.org/category/comon-law/

[_Miracle]

To stay on topic a bit, people in government in America generally understand that they have a dual position in life. They live in common law, but they exercise legal law. Since they are people, they need to be careful in the ways that they exercise their positions of authority. Why? Because some man or woman can sue them as a 'people' for some failure to act or some harm that they do. This is part of why Trump doesn't always have to follow the Constitution, and that his not following is based on every instance for itself.

Upholding the Constitution IS the Presidential Oath.
And "We the People" need to understand that very short document so that we don't continue to allow our basic freedoms to be reimagined into narrower meanings.
Why this administration isn't being held accountable is no big secret. If you take time to watch congressional hearings the ideocracy an influence of money is worse than any time in history.

From many of your posts you seem to have a slight understanding of things like sovereign citizenry but still not clear on how our basic rights (and biases) play into providing the freedom to do something like that.
1. you need enough money to be part of a republic
2. you need to 'look' like someone they wont get away with imposing the deprivation of rights on.
3. you need enough money to defend yourself.

Aside from diplomatic immunity, the 5 Freedoms afforded every person on US soil is a base for experiencing sovereignty.

When we allow others to have their rights stripped we are next. And that is happening now.

"Upholding the Constitution IS the Presidential Oath."

But answer this. When the people use the Contract Clause of the Constitution to take themselves out from under the protections of the Constitution, how is Trump supposed to answer the question? He is upholding the Contract Clause part of the Constitution by not upholding the rest of the Constitution which the people contracted themselves out from under... even if they didn't realize it.

Trump isn't there to school the people about what the Constitution says. There are plenty of Constitution law professors to do that. But the people aren't even asking the questions, or listening to the answers.

Possibly the biggest thing that the people have to learn is that they are men and women, not legal 'persons'. If they would learn that one thing, they could be out from under all kinds of laws and even taxation.

For example. When the law says that a person has to obey the driving laws, the definition of 'person' does not include men and women. Why not? Because the 1st Amendment has already been adjudicated to mean that we have the RIGHT to travel. Having this right means that we can do it any way we want... as long as we don't do injury. But when an ignorant man or woman suggests that they are 'persons', they just admitted that they fall under the law and not the RIGHT.

Wake up.

I am painfully and exhaustedly awake.
"Persons" is clear regarding the amendments: this is why corporations wanted the rights of personage, so that they could have our protections. Getting them (Citizens United) has broken our system.....free of its restraints ;-)


Division for profit has always been a tool of oppression: Hierarchies, Caste Systems, skin color, pick any stupid thing.

[_Miracle]

You know honestly  I think our politics are nothing more then a fancy show put on by our worlds elite to keep the masses in check. The ones who are really running the country are going to be your telecommunications companies, your general foods distributors and your banking moguls. I really don't think any saudi princes care much about whos president. If its really fact that it was said this way and not misinterpreted then this guy really is in the seat for nothing more then business and not to pursue everyone of the masses vision of a greater world not just country. So personally I hate this because I did register for law school finally for as much as I hate politics I am going to see about getting myself into the politics just because there is change that needs to happen. This country is becoming a nation of zombies an gluttony. In my history books the 1776 constitution is the only one that matters it was written for the purpose of government not getting out of hand. So these ratifications or any of that other stuff it does not mean a damn thing to a real true US patriot who understands 2 main things an that was Mr Washington had a great vision an we're losing our country faster then we know it to dumb things like corporate greed, consumerism, capitalism etc.

I guess really America has to wake up and smell the roses but it is quite hard for that to happen when your working 60-70 hrs a week an barely getting enough to get by let alone put into a savings or risk in a stock market EFT.

It really is the smallest book, I send all my loved ones copies of it :-)




George Carlin on "The Owners" (decades ago)   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVrMKsYdZ-A&ab_channel=FrustratedIdealist

[BADecker]

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"Upholding the Constitution IS the Presidential Oath."

But answer this. When the people use the Contract Clause of the Constitution to take themselves out from under the protections of the Constitution, how is Trump supposed to answer the question? He is upholding the Contract Clause part of the Constitution by not upholding the rest of the Constitution which the people contracted themselves out from under... even if they didn't realize it.

Trump isn't there to school the people about what the Constitution says. There are plenty of Constitution law professors to do that. But the people aren't even asking the questions, or listening to the answers.

Possibly the biggest thing that the people have to learn is that they are men and women, not legal 'persons'. If they would learn that one thing, they could be out from under all kinds of laws and even taxation.

For example. When the law says that a person has to obey the driving laws, the definition of 'person' does not include men and women. Why not? Because the 1st Amendment has already been adjudicated to mean that we have the RIGHT to travel. Having this right means that we can do it any way we want... as long as we don't do injury. But when an ignorant man or woman suggests that they are 'persons', they just admitted that they fall under the law and not the RIGHT.

Wake up.

I am painfully and exhaustedly awake.
"Persons" is clear regarding the amendments: this is why corporations wanted the rights of personage, so that they could have our protections. Getting them (Citizens United) has broken our system.....free of its restraints ;-)


Division for profit has always been a tool of oppression: Hierarchies, Caste Systems, skin color, pick any stupid thing.

'Persons' are artificial entities made by people. If a man or woman does damage to you through the use of his/her person, suing the person for damages is the wrong way to go.

Almost nowhere in the courts does a man/woman sue a man/woman. Usually its a person suing another person. And to top it all off, the men/women behind the persons involved, have signed contracts with attorneys, thereby giving the attorneys and the judge the total authority for the case, except if an attorney happens to be fired by the man/woman.

Until you realize this, you don't have any basis for your crying.

You Are Law understands. Karl Lentz teaches it. Time for all of us to learn it. Simply stated, 'We the People' are NOT 'We the Persons', even though we may have brought many persons into existence.

I don't know if Trump understands or not. But with all the court activity he had to go through to become President, he probably understands this very well. If he doesn't, he has counsel that does. So, how can he answer the simple question with yes or no when he upholds the Constitution by not upholding it at times?

[_Miracle]

From lack of due process in deportations - ICE's astronomical budget and Alligator Alcatraz being built to profit political supporters.
This is an ugly time and I often say read the constitution and get yourself a copy but this week I really mean it ;-)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/constitution-trump-congress-website-removed-b2804095.html

A "programming glitch" was responsible for taking part of the constitution off the government website.



https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitution --- last edited in May (just get a printed copy already)

[BADecker]

From lack of due process in deportations - ICE's astronomical budget and Alligator Alcatraz being built to profit political supporters.
This is an ugly time and I often say read the constitution and get yourself a copy but this week I really mean it ;-)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/constitution-trump-congress-website-removed-b2804095.html

A "programming glitch" was responsible for taking part of the constitution off the government website.



https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitution --- last edited in May (just get a printed copy already)

The glitch doesn't really mean much. It might be a start for government really turning itself into a dictatorship. Watch the video here >>> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5552698.msg65668283#msg65668283 <<< because it shows that the glitch, when found, should have been, could have been, corrected in a few minutes if they wanted to.

The parts removed have a lot of BIG unseen consequences besides those listed at the video at that sight. One of them is the removal of the Contract Clause.

[_Miracle]

From lack of due process in deportations - ICE's astronomical budget and Alligator Alcatraz being built to profit political supporters.
This is an ugly time and I often say read the constitution and get yourself a copy but this week I really mean it ;-)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/constitution-trump-congress-website-removed-b2804095.html

A "programming glitch" was responsible for taking part of the constitution off the government website.



https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/constitution --- last edited in May (just get a printed copy already)

The glitch doesn't really mean much. It might be a start for government really turning itself into a dictatorship. Watch the video here >>> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5552698.msg65668283#msg65668283 <<< because it shows that the glitch, when found, should have been, could have been, corrected in a few minutes if they wanted to.

The parts removed have a lot of BIG unseen consequences besides those listed at the video at that sight. One of them is the removal of the Contract Clause.

Whether is "means" anything or not; it sure is a handy way to test us and see what we'll let slide.

For anyone who cares about their rights...stay vigilant and be diligent.
 

P.S. that is a really good link BadDecker

[montaga]

Very soon there wont be any funktional govenment depatment
https://youtu.be/V8kgpHiWbB4

[_Miracle]

Very soon there wont be any funktional govenment depatment
https://youtu.be/V8kgpHiWbB4

I don't usually watch Brian Tyler but damn!

Even a google search about it just fires me up ;-)