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May 05, 2025, 12:51:49 PM |
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What if MicroStrategy decided to sell all of its Bitcoin?
Could that be a black swan event?
The very thought is unsettling.
What if institutional investors, like retail traders in the past, are hit by BTC FUD and choose to panic-sell all their holdings?
Do you see this as a realistic possibility in the future, or am I overthinking it?
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Ruttoshi
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May 05, 2025, 01:00:02 PM |
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If MicroStrategy sells all his bitcoin, the price of bitcoin will only be affected temporarily and after a while, the price will go back to normal because other investors will buy them. Just like in the last quarter of last year that Germany government sold all the bitcoin seized from movie2k, the price was down for a while but we were able to see a new ATH.
Not everybody will panic and sell a good asset like bitcoin when they're seeing the benefits of buying and hodli bitcoin written on the wall. Don't think about too much so that you don't get discouraged of starting your Bitcoin investment immediately.
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May 05, 2025, 01:12:10 PM |
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If MicroStrategy sells all his bitcoin, the price of bitcoin will only be affected temporarily and after a while, the price will go back to normal because other investors will buy them. Just like in the last quarter of last year that Germany government sold all the bitcoin seized from movie2k, the price was down for a while but we were able to see a new ATH.
Microstrategy is quite different from the Germany government. Microstrategy represent a movement and has been a supporter of Bitcoin The CEO has stated he plans on not selling his Bitcoin Now if such group chooses to sell? The gap wouldn't be on just the quantity that's been offloaded in the market But fear of what such action could represent. Like you said, A temporary dip and the market would fill in the Gap. That's the disadvantage of last institutions owning Bitcoin Their action could cause a ripple effect on Bitcoin price.
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May 05, 2025, 01:21:52 PM |
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Would a company like MS do that to its own demise? I don't think so.
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May 05, 2025, 01:29:41 PM |
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Do you see this as a realistic possibility in the future, or am I overthinking it?
You are not overthinking when a company holds the amount of bitcoin that is above half a million bitcoin; it leaves the people with curiosity, some questions about safety, and the rest of them. No one is buying bitcoin to store it permanently; they will eventually sell it off someday, which is one thing we should prepare our minds for. And if they are to sell with the position they hold, that will have a negative reaction on the market, but it will just be temporary, which is still not a bad thing, as that will be considered an ownership change since it will then be going down to others' private investors' hands.
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May 05, 2025, 01:56:19 PM |
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Would a company like MS do that to its own demise? I don't think so.
They are just investors, they buy and hold bitcoins with the ultimate goal of profit, they never say or commit to only buy and never sell. So when the time is right and they reach their goals, they will also sell everything for profit. But usually large institutions, companies or holders will not sell bitcoins directly through exchanges because that would cause panic in the market. Instead, they will quietly sell them through OTC to minimize damage to the market. But not all whales do that, it depends on them. This is one of the disadvantages when the market has the participation of organizations, Wall Street whales, OP's concern is not unfounded.
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I think its really implausible they could just DUMP all coins in the same moment since markets could just collapse (and probably there are many orders in few exchanges...) I would not discuss this scenario since it's really "impossible to see". For sure we will see another BEAR WHALE at latest https://news.bitcoin.com/8-years-ago-today-bitcoin-traders-slayed-the-infamous-bear-whale-who-dumped-30000-btc-in-a-single-trade/For sure the whole market could react in a very negative way since there is a reason if they will ever decide to dump their coins...
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Microstrategy Bitcoin holdings amount to only 2% of the total Bitcoin in cyculation som from sure if the went all out to dump their Bitcoin holdings, it won't amount to anything significant to the entire Bitcoin market, it dump won't even be noticed, and even it there will be any impact on the market from Microstrategy possible dump it will be a temporary drop in price of BTC.
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May 05, 2025, 02:13:49 PM |
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Microstrategy Bitcoin holdings amount to only 2% of the total Bitcoin in cyculation som from sure if the went all out to dump their Bitcoin holdings, it won't amount to anything significant to the entire Bitcoin market, it dump won't even be noticed, and even it there will be any impact on the market from Microstrategy possible dump it will be a temporary drop in price of BTC.
You forget about emotional and psychological impacts from Strategy's purchases and sales. If their purchases can lift the market and price up by positive psychological impacts, you must think of opposite impacts from their sales in future if they actually sell. The question is more severe as it is about dumps, not simply normal sales. If you understand their business, they don't have to sell their bitcoins even if price falls down and below their average entry price. So no reasons either intentionally or unexpectedly for Steategy to sell their bitcoin.
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May 05, 2025, 02:19:23 PM |
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What if MicroStrategy decided to sell all of its Bitcoin?
Could that be a black swan event?
The very thought is unsettling.
What if institutional investors, like retail traders in the past, are hit by BTC FUD and choose to panic-sell all their holdings?
Do you see this as a realistic possibility in the future, or am I overthinking it?
The price will drop sharply and it might take a while to recover, but eventually it will. But I doubt that Microstrategy would drop their investment in Bitcoin. They are "going all in", as far as I can tell
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May 05, 2025, 02:21:46 PM |
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Do you see this as a realistic possibility in the future, or am I overthinking it?
You are not overthinking when a company holds the amount of bitcoin that is above half a million bitcoin; it leaves the people with curiosity, some questions about safety, and the rest of them. No one is buying bitcoin to store it permanently; they will eventually sell it off someday, which is one thing we should prepare our minds for. And if they are to sell with the position they hold, that will have a negative reaction on the market, but it will just be temporary, which is still not a bad thing, as that will be considered an ownership change since it will then be going down to others' private investors' hands. Op might be right to think in that direction but another consideration is that will microstrategy dumps all it's Bitcoin forever or they are dumping to buy back? This are the other things to consider before having such assumptions of what will happens to Bitcoin if in that regards regards, Bitcoin will keep being Bitcoin no matter what and it is already known for it's volatility to be influence by various factors which of course is of the basic things we should be aware of and good enough that you have vividly started it out that if such thing happens there will be hand change of position and possession which is true.
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May 05, 2025, 02:21:56 PM |
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Microstrategy Bitcoin holdings amount to only 2% of the total Bitcoin in cyculation som from sure if the went all out to dump their Bitcoin holdings, it won't amount to anything significant to the entire Bitcoin market, it dump won't even be noticed, and even it there will be any impact on the market from Microstrategy possible dump it will be a temporary drop in price of BTC.
You forget about emotional and psychological impacts from Strategy's purchases and sales. If their purchases can lift the market and price up by positive psychological impacts, you must think of opposite impacts from their sales in future if they actually sell. The question is more severe as it is about dumps, not simply normal sales. If you understand their business, they don't have to sell their bitcoins even if price falls down and below their average entry price. So no reasons either intentionally or unexpectedly for Steategy to sell their bitcoin. Because of the physiological impact of such actions from Microstrategy, that why I said it will have a temporary market impact on the price of Bitcoin at that time, but mind in as much as microstrategy Bitcoin buying always comes with positive uptrends impact, is still very important for us not to assume that when their dump some percentage or a whole of their Bitcoin holdings it can cripple Bitcoin market that could cause a dump in the market, although there will definitely be a big dump but it will be for a short period of time before Bitcoin recover back to normal value.
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May 05, 2025, 02:24:36 PM |
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Microstrategy Bitcoin holdings amount to only 2% of the total Bitcoin in cyculation som from sure if the went all out to dump their Bitcoin holdings, it won't amount to anything significant to the entire Bitcoin market, it dump won't even be noticed, and even it there will be any impact on the market from Microstrategy possible dump it will be a temporary drop in price of BTC.
Bitcoin isn’t tied to just one person or entity bitcoin is decentralized coin even when bitcoin started there was a blackish by Michael Saylor the CEO of Microstrategy himself, he was actually fudding bitcoin then with statements like “bitcoin days are numbered” but still bitcoin stood its ground and actually got past this period which signifies bitcoin can withstand anything coming up coming up now with more support. But let’s be realistic Microstrategy dumping bitcoin will definitely will be felt in the market. Just like you have said he holds Above 500,000 bitcoins which is definitely equivalent to around $50billion that’s is not a push over figure no matter how we put it. Should they decide to dump all it will definitely affect the market and price effect will be affected for some days or even few months, the reason of why they are selling will also be significant to the market but what I know is even if it takes a year it will be temporary and bitcoin will be back again. But we will most surely touch some low price because this sell off will definitely affect the market sentiment and many other weak hands will also sell off, so the impact will definitely be noticed
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May 05, 2025, 02:25:06 PM |
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The price will drop sharply and it might take a while to recover, but eventually it will.
Bitcoin has its good history of its survival and recovery from bear market that makes Bitcoin uniquely in cryptocurrency market. With altcoins, people can feel fearful about risk of death in a bear market but that fear does not exist with Bitcoin especially after many tests in past bear markets and Bitcoin's success so far. But I doubt that Microstrategy would drop their investment in Bitcoin. They are "going all in", as far as I can tell
Their CEO, Michael Saylor, considered "Bitcoin is the end game." but Strategy does not go all in in Bitcoin. They are a company with other products beyond Bitcoin. https://www.forbes.com/sites/digital-assets/2024/10/11/michael-saylor-reveals-shock-100-trillion-microstrategy-endgame-as-the-bitcoin-price-suddenly-soars/
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What if MicroStrategy decided to sell all of its Bitcoin?
Could that be a black swan event?
The very thought is unsettling.
What if institutional investors, like retail traders in the past, are hit by BTC FUD and choose to panic-sell all their holdings?
Do you see this as a realistic possibility in the future, or am I overthinking it?
It's not overthinking, it will happens some day. But now once again, Strategy acquired 1,895 BTC for $180.3 million at a price of $95,167 per bitcoin and achieved a BTC yield of 14% since the beginning of 2025. As of 05/04/2025, the company's balance sheet is 555,450 BTC acquired for $38.08 billion at an average price of $68,550. Small volume this time . That's why Strategy shares have grown so much. Sailor is in no hurry to get cash. And perhaps he is waiting for a higher BTC rate, although I don't remember him naming any specific values about what price he is expecting. But given how he bought even at the peaks of the price, he is expecting some huge values of the Bitcoin price.
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Op might be right to think in that direction but another consideration is that will microstrategy dumps all it's Bitcoin forever or they are dumping to buy back? This are the other things to consider before having such assumptions of what will happens to Bitcoin if in that regards regards, Bitcoin will keep being Bitcoin no matter what and it is already known for it's volatility to be influence by various factors which of course is of the basic things we should be aware of and good enough that you have vividly started it out that if such thing happens there will be hand change of position and possession which is true.
They can decide to do whatever pleases them and will be beneficial to them as a company. If the company has need for them to empty their holdings, then they are free to take that route. In the end, it's their decision to make. Then again, even if they sell now and decide to buy back later, there will still be a reaction which will leave on the market. If I'm correct, I guess they might have done that in the past, which some consider their move as an action taken to avoid tax by selling and rebuying after a short time. On the other hand, some companies can try to be very manipulative, holding such a number of a company without reputation can openly want to dump in an exchange with the exact volume they want, and once that's done, they will crash the market, giving them the opportunity to rebuy immediately the same amount they should or even extra and still be left with profit made out of panic sellers' sales.
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Do you see this as a realistic possibility in the future, or am I overthinking it?
I’m sure in the future they will sell their Bitcoin because that’s the goal of their investment. There’s nothing new to this but we shouldn’t afraid on this because they will do it gradually or else they will be affected too on the sudden price dip since their Bitcoin holdings can dump the exchange due to liquidity issue. It’s realistic that they will sell but the effect is not that brutal because there’s always someone that will purchase their holdings. Most probably their sales is OTC that doesn’t affect the market price.
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What if MicroStrategy decided to sell all of its Bitcoin?
Could that be a black swan event?
The very thought is unsettling.
What if institutional investors, like retail traders in the past, are hit by BTC FUD and choose to panic-sell all their holdings?
Do you see this as a realistic possibility in the future, or am I overthinking it?
It is very much possible for Microstrategy to sell their Bitcoin holdings anytime in future. They are investors and unlike stocks, Bitcoin does not pay dividends. So if they want to realise value from their investment, they will have to sell it. Otherwise those values will never get unlocked for them. So your thought is very realistic. It is highly possible and I am sure it will happen at some time in future. But considering Microstrategy is bullish about Bitcoin, they may not sell everything at one go. Rather they can take a staggering approach to unlock the value. We don't know how the market will react. But that is probably not going to be positive!
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Microstrategy Bitcoin holdings amount to only 2% of the total Bitcoin in cyculation som from sure if the went all out to dump their Bitcoin holdings, it won't amount to anything significant to the entire Bitcoin market, it dump won't even be noticed, and even it there will be any impact on the market from Microstrategy possible dump it will be a temporary drop in price of BTC.
It can be noticed because there's always someone who track the coins hold by entities or big holders, as we can see in arkham intelligence https://intel.arkm.com/explorer/entity/microstrategyThe effect of selling all the coins would be tiny, but effect of the market and people who invest Bitcoin because of big entities could be big, they would feel encouraged to sell their holdings. But yeah, it's all just a short term effect.
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What if MicroStrategy decided to sell all of its Bitcoin?
Could that be a black swan event?
The very thought is unsettling.
What if institutional investors, like retail traders in the past, are hit by BTC FUD and choose to panic-sell all their holdings?
Do you see this as a realistic possibility in the future, or am I overthinking it?
With big amounts it would make sense for them to find buyers and sell them via OTC. Meaning that buy orders in Cexes didn't even see the transactions. So it probably wouldn't hurt the liquidity or drop the markets in that way, and Microstrategy would get premium price for them as well. This however wouldn't prevent the sell signaling lack of trust to the people when news would break out, which would impact on the markets.
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