European Parliament election, 2014

[bryant.coleman]

"The last European elections were in 2009. The Conservatives got the biggest UK share of the vote, 27.7%, UKIP got 16.5%, Labour got 15.7%, the Lib Dems 13.7%, the Green Party 8.6% and the BNP 6.2%.

This is the latest opinion poll for UK.

http://news.opinium.co.uk/survey-results/european-parliament-polling-19th-may

UKIP - 32%
Lab - 25%
Cons - 21%
Lib Dem - 6%
Oth - 16%

[mailmansDOG]

As bitcoiners; I think that the most friendly parties to us would be the pirate ones.

You can go to http://www.pp-international.net/ to see if there is one in your country. They're most likely to bee acecpting bitcoin donations too!

[DooMAD]

Ugh, it's quite sickening to think that the majority of our euro MPs are likely going to be something that crawled out of the dark ages.  Hope the opinion polls are wrong and I don't actually live in a country full of benighted troglodytes who would actually vote for that ukip scum.

[hello_good_sir]

It is nice to see that right-leaning parties such as UKIP are going to do well this election.  Here in the US we are limited to choosing between Maoism ("progressivism") and Trotskyism ("neoconservatism").

[Chef Ramsay]

Results here so far: http://www.bbc.com/news/events/vote2014/england-council-election-results

UKIP up 80 seats and counting!!!

[bryant.coleman]

Results here so far: http://www.bbc.com/news/events/vote2014/england-council-election-results

UKIP up 80 seats and counting!!!

Still much lower than the seats won by Labour and Conservatives. I fear that the UKIP remains relevant only in the European elections. They need to perform better in the national and local elections as well.

[DooMAD]

It is nice to see that right-leaning parties such as UKIP are going to do well this election.  Here in the US we are limited to choosing between Maoism ("progressivism") and Trotskyism ("neoconservatism").

If you're talking about Democrats and Republicans, I think you'll find they're both decidedly right wing compared to political parties elsewhere in the world.  Your choices are actually far more limited than they might appear.



Looking at that, there's hardly anything between Obama and Romney.  Your other candidates are a little more broadly spread across the spectrum in their views, though.  But of course, being the US, independent and third party candidates may as well not exist for all practical purposes.  The UK isn't much better in that respect, though.

As for it being "nice" to see UKIP do well, I'll have to disagree.  Scapegoating minorities and blaming them for all your economic problems is the kind of backwards thinking that we, as a species, should have been able to move past by now.  That sort of BS should have ended with WW2.  UKIP are disgusting, vile creatures.

[bryant.coleman]

Not a big fan of the Golden Dawn.... but don't understad what is the role of ADL and Abe Foxman here.

ADL’s Foxman calls on Greeks to reject Golden Dawn

http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-Features/ADLs-Foxman-calls-on-Greeks-to-reject-Golden-Dawn-352710

[dj213]

Not to cry those who did not vote for salaries, pensions or if takes them away home, the IRS for two euros. They have no rights because they believe, that by not voting, and keep " face " to politicians punished them . It is exactly what the government wished.
 
In 43.11 % was the percentage of participation in elections throughout the European Union , as announced by the European Parliament.
 
In the 2009 elections the turnout was 43 % , while this is so for the first time since 1979, when the first elections were held , that the participation rate has been slowly increasing.
 
The highest attendance was recorded in Luxembourg with 90 % and lowest in Slovakia with 13% , while 57.4 % was participation in Greece.
 
Details by country participation is as follows ;
 
Greece 57.4 %
Hungary 29.2 %
Ireland 51.2 %
Italy 60 %
Latvia 30%
Lithuania 37.3 %
Luxembourg 90 %
Malta 74.8 %
The Netherlands 37 %
Poland 22.7 %
Portugal 34.5 %
Romania 34.7 %
Slovakia 13%
Croatia 24.3 %
Czech Republic 19.5 %
Cyprus 42.4 %
Denmark 55 %
Estonia 36.4 %
France 43.5 %
Germany 47.9 %
Slovenia 21%
Spain 44.7 %
Sweden 51 %
Britain 36 %

[bryant.coleman]

Front National emerges as the largest party in France with 25% of the vote, while the ruling Socialists of Francoise Hollande finishes on the third place with just 15% of the vote.

[Chef Ramsay]

European elections results 2014: Nigel Farage's Ukip on course to top poll as Europe takes a swing to the right


Ukip likely to beat Labour to first place, with Tories dropping to third for first time ever in a national election.

Nigel Farage inflicted another body blow on the three main political parties on Sunday night as Ukip scored a stunning victory in the European Parliament elections.

The anti-EU party dramatically built on its success in the local elections in England last Thursday when the results of the Euro poll on the same day were announced. A jubilant Mr Farage hailed the outcome as “an earthquake because never before in the history of British politics has a party seen to be an insurgent party ever topped the polls in a national election.”
The Conservatives, Labour and Liberal Democrats conceded that Ukip would come first. It looked on course to double the 13 seats it won in the last Euro elections in 2009. The Tories, who came first last time with 25 seats, faced the humiliation of dropping to third place for the first time ever in a national election. The Liberal Democrats suffered a disastrous result, conceding that they could lose all 12 of their MEPs, which would increase the grassroots pressure on Nick Clegg to stand down as party leader. Early results suggested the Lib Dems could come an embarrassing fifth behind the Green Party.
Lib Dem fears of a total wipeout were confirmed when they lost their seat in their one-time stronghold of the South West. Sir Graham Watson, president of the Liberal group in the European Parliament, was ousted by the Greens.
After results in six of the 12 regions, Ukip had won 29.2 per cent of the votes (up 12.1 points since the last Euro elections); Labour 24.5 per cent (up 8.8 points); the Tories 23.5 per cent (down 3.5 points); the Greens 7.6 per cent (down 0.5 points) and the Lib Dems 6.8 per cent (down 6.9 points).
Across the EU, nationalist and Eurosceptic parties made big gains amid predictions that they would double their strength in the European Parliament. In France, Marine Le Pen's Front National topped a nationwide poll for the first time in its history, with the anti-immigrant party predicted to take 25 per cent of the vote and win as many as 24 seats in the European Parliament.

Ms Le Pen said France had “shouted loud and clear” that it wanted to be run “by the French, for the French and with the French” and not by “foreign commissioners” in Brussels. Manuel Valls, France’s Socialist Prime Minister, said the victory was “more than a shock, it's an earthquake”.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/european-elections-results-2014-sweeping-gains-for-nigel-farages-ukip-deal-further-body-blow-to-main-parties-9434042.html

[bryant.coleman]

Results from Austria:

[bryant.coleman]

Results from Bulgaria:

[bryant.coleman]

Results from Czech Rep:

[bryant.coleman]

Results from Denmark:

[bryant.coleman]

Results from Germany:

[bryant.coleman]

Results from Greece:

[hello_good_sir]

If you're talking about Democrats and Republicans, I think you'll find they're both decidedly right wing compared to political parties elsewhere in the world.

That is a common misconception.  If you look at actual policies the US is pretty far left in many ways.  I spent a few days studying this a year or two ago, and the US is to the right of about 3/4 of Western countries, and to the left of about 1/4 of them.

Looking at that, there's hardly anything between Obama and Romney.

I am familiar with the website from which that chart comes, and I don't consider it credible.  How does it decide where to put the center?  It is arbitrary.

I use a non-arbitrary definition:  the status quo is center.  Anyone who wants modernize authority is a leftist, anyone who wants to diversify authority is a rightist.  Anyone who is more of a leftist than Marx is far left, anyone who is more of a rightist than Confucius (the man himself, not his disciples) is far right.

You are correct that Obama and Romney seem to fall pretty close to each other on a left-right spectrum, but the truth is that they are on the left.  This is because they both want to move the status quo to the left.  That is indisputable.  We know that Obama's policies are far left because of his actions on the lumpenprole (people that Marx did not care about).  Romney could have gone pretty far left when he was governor of Massachusetts, but he didn't.  So we can conclude that he (like most Mormons) is only a center leftist.

As for it being "nice" to see UKIP do well, I'll have to disagree.  Scapegoating minorities and blaming them for all your economic problems is the kind of backwards thinking that we, as a species, should have been able to move past by now.  That sort of BS should have ended with WW2.  UKIP are disgusting, vile creatures.

None of the top three parties addresses any of the concerns of the average person.  UKIP not only addresses them, but has decent solutions.  Also "move past by now"?  Do you see the demographic shifts that are happening around you?  How many children does the average Labour supporter have?  How many does the average UKIP have?  I'm guessing that the latter is at least twice the former.  In the US it will only be a couple of generations before we shed the progressives.  They'll be a few of inconsequential weirdos instead of the ruling class.

[bryant.coleman]

Results from Ireland:

[FalconFly]

That is a common misconception.  If you look at actual policies the US is pretty far left in many ways.  I spent a few days studying this a year or two ago, and the US is to the right of about 3/4 of Western countries, and to the left of about 1/4 of them.

It's a common misperception to believe there's actually an inch of a difference between democrats and republicans in terms of actual policies that really matter. You could call them "republocrats" just as well.
In the background, they're basically a neocon one-party-system, owned and controlled by exactly the same forces.
All the differences are just propaganda or artificial pseudo-differences to create the illusion of differing principles, divide the people emotionally and infuriate them over meaningless issues.

The US policies combined make it easily one of the most ultra-right-wing extremists on the entire planet, in terms of resulting effects they are literally second to none in that respect.