without investments would there be wealthy?

[Cgrexp]

Most people first earned money by using their own skills, talents, labor, knowledge and then increased it by investing the money they earned. Their own skills are the key to creating capital. Investment is necessary to be successful and this investment means the money we earn by using our skills. So the initial step of investment is our own skills, knowledge and hard work. Almost everyone who has become rich till date has first started earning money through their own knowledge, skills and work, whether it is a person of any profession, be it a businessman, an employee, a freelancer, a sportsman or an entrepreneur. No one can become rich overnight. Those who have been able to invest properly and use their skills properly by earning money are the rich of today and they have reached that level due to a combination of these few things.

[Yokkattannee]

For some people who have big businesses, they can indeed become rich without investing, but what needs to be considered is that only some people are like that and many people also achieve wealth by setting aside some of their income and starting to invest, it will have a big impact in the future.
The purpose of investment for people who are already rich is to increase wealth as you said, but the rest of the people don't think that way, in fact many people start investing to achieve wealth in the future, so I think people need to invest if they want to be rich.

Yes, it is true that by investing people can become rich, but of course only those who believe in investment and feel it themselves. Because it has been proven, unlike those who have not felt the benefits of investment, of course it takes longer to learn about it and understand it, but it is true that people's opinions always differ depending on what they feel. And the longer you invest, the greater the growth in profits you will get and that's an interesting thing.

[gunhell16]

I wouldn't want to create a very lengthy topic to post as I don't see any reason for doing so..
So I was thinking something tonight that everyone or anyone who succeeded or becoming wealthy today do they really succeed through investments?

If yes, then how many people around you becoming wealthy through investments?

In my opinion, the majority of people who were successful today started from personal skill or self development, after which before they started investments.

What Is your thoughts over this?

Literally speaking, if your parents are rich even if you don't have any investments, you can say that you are also rich because you are the son of a rich family.
Now, if your not rich and you want to be rich, of course you have to find a way to achieve it.

And how do we do this? Of course, by finding investment opportunities that can give us profit using the capital that we will use for business. Because there is no rich person in this era
who doesn't do business.

[Uruhara]

Most people first earned money by using their own skills, talents, labor, knowledge and then increased it by investing the money they earned. Their own skills are the key to creating capital. Investment is necessary to be successful and this investment means the money we earn by using our skills. So the initial step of investment is our own skills, knowledge and hard work. Almost everyone who has become rich till date has first started earning money through their own knowledge, skills and work, whether it is a person of any profession, be it a businessman, an employee, a freelancer, a sportsman or an entrepreneur. No one can become rich overnight. Those who have been able to invest properly and use their skills properly by earning money are the rich of today and they have reached that level due to a combination of these few things.

Well that's the process. Because the first and most important thing we must prioritize is gathering insight and honing the skills we have so that we can be superior to other people. And only after that can we produce with our skills and insight. And the higher the insight we have, the greater the potential salary we will receive if we initially work for someone else. And if we build a business then we will not have so much difficulty managing the business that we have mastered with insight before. Once we start earning income, that's where we really have to think about how to increase the money we earn. We can invest our capital in other things or we can also invest in assets that are considered not to be eroded by inflation and will also continue to increase over time, such as in bitcoin or property or real estate.

And most importantly, we must always be able to adapt to the times. And we must always be able to add skills that are adapted to the needs of the times. And yes in the end without investment people cannot become rich. because buying books to read to broaden our knowledge is also included in other forms of investment.

[slapper]

Most people first earned money by using their own skills, talents, labor, knowledge and then increased it by investing the money they earned. Their own skills are the key to creating capital. Investment is necessary to be successful and this investment means the money we earn by using our skills. So the initial step of investment is our own skills, knowledge and hard work. Almost everyone who has become rich till date has first started earning money through their own knowledge, skills and work, whether it is a person of any profession, be it a businessman, an employee, a freelancer, a sportsman or an entrepreneur. No one can become rich overnight. Those who have been able to invest properly and use their skills properly by earning money are the rich of today and they have reached that level due to a combination of these few things.

Well that's the process. Because the first and most important thing we must prioritize is gathering insight and honing the skills we have so that we can be superior to other people. And only after that can we produce with our skills and insight. And the higher the insight we have, the greater the potential salary we will receive if we initially work for someone else. And if we build a business then we will not have so much difficulty managing the business that we have mastered with insight before. Once we start earning income, that's where we really have to think about how to increase the money we earn. We can invest our capital in other things or we can also invest in assets that are considered not to be eroded by inflation and will also continue to increase over time, such as in bitcoin or property or real estate.

And most importantly, we must always be able to adapt to the times. And we must always be able to add skills that are adapted to the needs of the times. And yes in the end without investment people cannot become rich. because buying books to read to broaden our knowledge is also included in other forms of investment.

We love this origin story: “skills first, then money, then investment, then wealth”. Sure, it’s the blueprint for social mobility, but it’s also the narrative that justifies why some people have more than others. That’s not criticism, just an observation. If we keep repeating the same narrative, we risk turning it into dogma instead of a living, evolving toolkit.

You’re right that knowledge, insight, and adaptability are the real currency, not just cash. But the timing and the “where you start” part is massively underrated. Not everyone has the same launchpad. Some are born into networks, safety nets, or mindsets that make risk-taking feel less risky. Some love the lone genius myth, but the system’s architecture matters more than anyone’s type. It’s easier to “invest in yourself” when the rent isn’t eating your capital and you’re not one bad break away from losing momentum.

People do get wealthy without investments (lotteries, inheritance, pure luck) but they rarely keep it without the skill-wealth-investment cycle you described. Is it really “investment” if it’s forced just to keep pace with inflation, or is it a treadmill with fancier jargon? We tell everyone to adapt, but if the system’s designed for churn, does upskilling ever end or just keep us chasing the next credential? The “knowledge economy” is now a subscription model.

Even “buying books” to invest in yourself is a privilege. Some can only afford the free pdf or YouTube hack, and some of those end up beating the Ivy grads anyway. Maybe adaptability itself is the ultimate asset, but then, who gets the real freedom: the one always investing, or the one who finally stops?

[Etranger]

And most importantly, we must always be able to adapt to the times. And we must always be able to add skills that are adapted to the needs of the times. And yes in the end without investment people cannot become rich. because buying books to read to broaden our knowledge is also included in other forms of investment.

Yes, adapting to new challenges is extremely important. The one who survives is the one who adapts. The most innovative and forward-thinking people have always known this. And the faster you adapt, the more successful you'll be in your new role. It not only allows you to keep up with the spirit of the times, but also to bring to life the very ideas that push those times forward. In my opinion, that’s exactly how cryptocurrencies came into existence.

[rachael9385]

majority of people who were successful today started from personal skill or self development, after which before they started investments.

Some people were lucky enough to be born into wealth, as their family had already made all the investments they would have needed to make in life now, they had just been born to come and enjoy, talking about people born into huge trust funds. Such persons do not need any form of personal skill or self-development. Some of these persons are so lucky that they do not even need any skill in financial management to keep the wealth because the money is so much that they cannot spend it in one lifetime, so yes without direct investment there could still be some wealthy individuals.

This is the reason why people say that life isn't balanced, some are born into wealth but others are born into poverty. If you place two piece of gold in the same place one in it's refined form and the other in it's raw form, they are still the same but one looks black and unattractive but when it goes through the whole refining process it becomes like the other, what I'm trying to say in essence is that some people would have to struggle to get the best

[Mame89]

Yes, it is true that by investing people can become rich, but of course only those who believe in investment and feel it themselves. Because it has been proven, unlike those who have not felt the benefits of investment, of course it takes longer to learn about it and understand it, but it is true that people's opinions always differ depending on what they feel. And the longer you invest, the greater the growth in profits you will get and that's an interesting thing.

In essence, to be able to become rich you must dare to take the opportunities that exist, and yes for now with investment you can become rich. There are many rich people who become rich from investment, indeed without investment you can also become rich by doing business and so on. But for now, if we look at investment, it is very possible for people to become rich for the future.

What everyone must understand, the secret to achieving wealth is not to miss the opportunities that exist today if for example you understand bitcoin investment then use the opportunity well. never miss an opportunity and don't lose the opportunity you have.
In addition, to achieve wealth, know your goals. Then prepare yourself for the opportunity to achieve your dreams and you must seize that opportunity. If you don't get the opportunity you want, handle the situation wisely and keep moving forward. When you get the opportunity to achieve your dreams, give yourself completely to that opportunity. So the conclusion is, to be rich you must take or create opportunities and the opportunity that exists today is bitcoin so use the opportunity well don't let you regret it later.

[SmartCharpa]

Wealth do not just come from investment alone. You can be wealthy from your high-paid salary, hereditary assets, or even gambling winnings as it will literally make you rich instantly.

You can become wealthy with your well paying job, but I don't believe the individual has extra responsibilities to depend on their salary. It is impossible to achieve anything in life if you have duties that go above what you earn. However, gambling will not make you rich overnight, and I will not consider it as an investment because you will lose a lot of money before you can win half of what you spent gambling.

Investment does not only happen when you take money to invest in a property with the hope of getting profit in return; the skill you talk about is also an investment.

You invest in yourself to get a better future. From the skill you acquire and perfect, you can be able to raise up something, level up your idea and take it to another level; everyone has areas and their idea plans for wealth increase.

Sure, investment requires more than just investing in a property, it also includes investing in ourselves in order to improve our skills. We invest in ourselves to learn skills for a better future, and we invest in ourselves to go to school to get a qualification that will help us get a better job in the future, however, without investing in ourselves, this will be difficult to do. It suggests that success cannot be achieved without investment.

[qurbanshah02]

Sure, investment requires more than just investing in a property, it also includes investing in ourselves in order to improve our skills. We invest in ourselves to learn skills for a better future, and we invest in ourselves to go to school to get a qualification that will help us get a better job in the future, however, without investing in ourselves, this will be difficult to do. It suggests that success cannot be achieved without investment.

If you look at it it is not very difficult because if we are not working in it with our own money. If we work in it with our own money, we will have to replace at least 3 to 4 houses which is quite expensive in today time. It should also be that your behavior should be liked by others and you should work in a place where you get maximum benefit and other sellers do not suffer. I believe that it is okay to study in school but if you want to start your own business to get a job then even if you do not study you can achieve success. It is certain that we will not be able to develop without investment and it is also certain that for this we need to be a little better and be able to make our minds smarter.

[leonair]

And most importantly, we must always be able to adapt to the times. And we must always be able to add skills that are adapted to the needs of the times. And yes in the end without investment people cannot become rich. because buying books to read to broaden our knowledge is also included in other forms of investment.

Yes, adapting to new challenges is extremely important. The one who survives is the one who adapts. The most innovative and forward-thinking people have always known this. And the faster you adapt, the more successful you'll be in your new role. It not only allows you to keep up with the spirit of the times, but also to bring to life the very ideas that push those times forward. In my opinion, that’s exactly how cryptocurrencies came into existence.

Starting a business with an old concept or investing in something that is hyped up never yields anything good. Something good can only be achieved when someone works with a new concept and starts investing in a new role. In this case, his competitors in the market are less and his success rate is much higher due to early adoption.

Success and becoming a wealthy person is very difficult for some and very easy for others because they know the way and they can implement their plans. There is no alternative to investment to become wealthy. Investment must be made. And that investment must be made at the right place and at the right time.

[BITCOIN4X]

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Starting a business with an old concept or investing in something that is hyped up never yields anything good. Something good can only be achieved when someone works with a new concept and starts investing in a new role. In this case, his competitors in the market are less and his success rate is much higher due to early adoption.

Success and becoming a wealthy person is very difficult for some and very easy for others because they know the way and they can implement their plans. There is no alternative to investment to become wealthy. Investment must be made. And that investment must be made at the right place and at the right time.

I do not hide the fact that there are still many business people who are successful and have earned more wealth than middle-class investors in this modern era. Business and investment are basically two different things, but when both are approached in the right way, you will become rich. While discuss with colleagues, I was told that a coffee shop businessman gets a turnover of around $2000 a day and I can imagine how much they earn in a month. Don't you think they are rich?

Based on the existing facts, don't you think there are still many people who can become rich out there even if they don't invest? They can buy or invest in land, gold or property from the net profits they make in a month, even if they don't become super rich, but in fact their financial condition is much stronger than most of us.

[STT]

Turnover alone doesnt make a person rich especially just saying per day when annual costs can wipe out any business.  For example to 'earn' the 2000 they might have performed renovations of 50,000 or more on the building to make it suitable not including machinery, wiring etc..    Add in daily costs especially wages but also many things are required behind the revenue, depreciation etc.  Seasonal variation would be a big one, some business only profit in summer or xmas is a common event vital to balance out losses.
   If they lose the lease perhaps then they cannot even say it was for profit especially, alot of things can knock a business sideways though we hope for good weather it wont always be the case.

The risk inherent is part of the cost and its almost random in some cases.   The risk is what justifies the earnings and right of the owner not to apologize for doing well but in fact every business needs its profits to even exist, hence why the socialist type arguments to seize all private property becomes so destructive not just to the business owner but the city it would operate in;  eventually the entire nation is entrenched & poorer cyclically for breaking a working profitable enterprise of any kind.

[Raflesia]

I do not hide the fact that there are still many business people who are successful and have earned more wealth than middle-class investors in this modern era. Business and investment are basically two different things, but when both are approached in the right way, you will become rich. While discuss with colleagues, I was told that a coffee shop businessman gets a turnover of around $2000 a day and I can imagine how much they earn in a month. Don't you think they are rich?

Based on the existing facts, don't you think there are still many people who can become rich out there even if they don't invest? They can buy or invest in land, gold or property from the net profits they make in a month, even if they don't become super rich, but in fact their financial condition is much stronger than most of us.

In the end, in this condition we can see several points that can be taken where for the problem of wealth it again becomes relative, we will consider other people rich if in the end in terms of the income they get will be greater than us then maybe it will be an option to say wealth but not necessarily the case for others because the problem of wealth can be said for others when indeed we are below them.

At another point in the end to make us rich can be through several factors, be it investing, doing business, working or whatever it can still make us rich and investment in this case is only one of the options developed to make us richer because of stability and good management to make the future better.
In the end we don't have to invest if we don't want to because this is not the only way to make us rich in our own version, but on the other hand if we really want to further secure our future then investing is clearly a very good thing to do especially when we are currently in a situation of quite good stability in terms of the economy then in the end this can be an even more thing for us to get in the future if we try to invest.
Because after all, today's stability should not be wasted because this can also be an advantage for us in preparing for old age to be much better.
But that doesn't mean everyone has to invest because the concept of rich and the concept of investment seems to depend on each person's thinking and we don't need to force the same thing that other people do if we don't want it because the impression will be forced and there will be no seriousness in it.

[Yoona_As]

Investing is a great way to get rich. If you have a source of income through a business or job, you can use it to invest and convert it into new money. If you just keep your money, its value will not increase but will decrease, but if you invest in Bitcoin, you can earn even in your sleep, although it is risky, you have to take the right steps because we can never deny that if you invest in Bitcoin, you will definitely benefit, because Bitcoin has historically helped investors earn high profits. It is very important to make your investment long-term because long-term investment will never disappoint.

[Etranger]

Starting a business with an old concept or investing in something that is hyped up never yields anything good. Something good can only be achieved when someone works with a new concept and starts investing in a new role. In this case, his competitors in the market are less and his success rate is much higher due to early adoption.

Success and becoming a wealthy person is very difficult for some and very easy for others because they know the way and they can implement their plans. There is no alternative to investment to become wealthy. Investment must be made. And that investment must be made at the right place and at the right time.

Of course, this is a very sound approach, but many people make huge mistakes here. True success can indeed be achieved only when a person works with a new concept and invests in a new niche. However, not all new niches are guaranteed to grow and make their creators wealthy. Many new niches die at the very beginning—along with the investments made in them. How many such examples have we seen in the pharmaceutical industry, for instance, or even in the IT sector? This happens very often—much more often than the cases where a new field takes off and enriches those who were involved from the start.

[Kelward]

People can get wealthy through investments, but you need money to start the investment so if you don't have something doing that you can diversify funds into investment you can't do it. Firstly you need to have a Job, business or skill that earns you money before you can invest so I will say that investments are secondary sources of making money. Invest means to put your money into something and if you don't have the money there is no way of getting wealthy through it. Most rich and wealthy people don't get to that position earning only from one source, they diversify into other businesses and invest money into others to get multiple sources of income, that is how to remain rich.

[DaNNy001]

I wouldn't want to create a very lengthy topic to post as I don't see any reason for doing so..
So I was thinking something tonight that everyone or anyone who succeeded or becoming wealthy today do they really succeed through investments?

If yes, then how many people around you becoming wealthy through investments?

In my opinion, the majority of people who were successful today started from personal skill or self development, after which before they started investments.

What Is your thoughts over this?

Investments don't make anyone rich, unless you got into Bitcoin right at the beginning or something like that. What truly builds wealth is work and creating value for people and for society. Then, after that, you use the capital multiplier called investing. I don't know any other honest way to get rich besides this,unless you're an heir, of course.

Investments don't Make anyone rich? The proper way to  put it is not all investments can make you rich... There good and bad investments this is why before you start up something like that you must be very calculative... there are people that are now financially stable because they invested in several things in the past years and some ended up losing... investing in Bitcoin in a short term and hoping to be financially stable is delusional, only those that took advantage of it years ago are financially boyant now

[jaberwock]

Let's remove the top 1% from the equation who all are rich mostly due to a brand or company they created now come back to middle class and I am talking about wider scale not one or few in particular, their hopes are on savings and investments for their retirement so yeah investments makes people rich or atleast stable when they can't make anymore. But there's no compulsion that you should only be an investor, it's not even that hard, just keep working and spend a gery little time to plan your investment.

That is the way most people retire, don't they? I mean they end up saving enough, and their savings makes them income enough, that they retire. This could be something as simple as a pension, which means they saved all their life on their pension and now making an income and that is what they are capable of doing. I am pretty sure more than half of the people who retired and living a decent life now, ended up investing one way or another.

However, there are still people who couldn't retire, or retired and not making enough, and that's very sad whenever I see one. I have seen an 82 year old person working the other day, and it wasn't a nice business man on his company type of thing, it was very sad, my only goal in life is to be able to rest if I want to during my old age, so I invest.

[pinhead666]

You definitely need a roadmap for investing. What do you want to invest in, and what kind of profit do you expect from it after making this investment?
If you have a good financial situation and you invest that money but do not expect anything from it and do not put in the necessary effort, then what kind of profit will you get from it, even after investing?

If you want to make a good investment and earn a profit from it, you have to work hard and pay attention to how to advance the investment systems. Then, you will be able to earn a profit from them, and you will be able to become rich.