The issue of Multiaccounting.

[Oluwa-btc]

What exactly is multi accounting? and is it that some gamblers do not know when they are defaulting on that? Asides opening multiple accounts in a casino, what else can cause it because the gamblers are always claiming that they do not have another account, and the casinos are not always providing proof of the other account when they make the accusation.

Funny how some gamblers go about this and honestly some tend to fake the issues of having their account being banned based on one issue or the other but literally it doesn't make sense that they come up here complaining about that. Because they must've defaulted in any way. But for the issue of multi accounting it could be caused by locating one ip address to different account users, it could be one person but the fact that the iP address reads a particular location but different account would have that account block.

[peter0425]

and the casinos are not always providing proof of the other account when they make the accusation.

The important thing here is whether if the accused can prove himself to be innocent or not. He’s gonna need to present evidence and report claims to the casinos which I am certain that if this casino was legitimate they would not simply ignore your claims and concerns.

If you need to submit personal information to verify you only have that one account then be prepared to do so. You never know maybe the casino is telling the truth and there really is someone else that registered under your name.

[Lanatsa]

What exactly is multi accounting? and is it that some gamblers do not know when they are defaulting on that? Asides opening multiple accounts in a casino, what else can cause it because the gamblers are always claiming that they do not have another account, and the casinos are not always providing proof of the other account when they make the accusation.

Funny how some gamblers go about this and honestly some tend to fake the issues of having their account being banned based on one issue or the other but literally it doesn't make sense that they come up here complaining about that. Because they must've defaulted in any way. But for the issue of multi accounting ut could be caused by locating one ip address to different account users, it could be one person but the fat that the io address reads a particular location but different account would have that account block.

Some people are just that naive or just that trying out to be act as a fool that they dont know about IP address tracking? Once these abusers do get busted then they do act out to be that innocent or just that trying out to pursue on pretending that they dont know and just fighting into their rights as if they havent that violated something. They do really believe that gambling sites wont be able to detect multi-accounting on which just like been mentioned that this will be usually happening when it comes to bonuses and promotions abuses and thats why those cheaters will be trying out to make use of different possible methods as long they can be able to take advantage with these and back in the past on which its commonly happening with faucets too about having that multi accounting abuse. On the moment that they do get busted then they would be usually going into this forum since its crypto based and whining out that they've been blocked and they have done nothing wrong.  

The only time on which i do able to believe out or we can possibly believe that the complain is legit is on the time that someone had been dealing up with a known scam website or platform.
If there are incidents that its been proven about a casino is cheating out their users then this is where we do able to believe that those complaints were legit but if we are pertaining into those issues been raised up with those long time running and trusted platforms then we can make out that kind of generalization that those complaints are just fake ones specially on multi accounting matters.

[Antotena]

It is a common thing to read and hear about casinos banning an account or restricting payment to an account because of the issue of multi accounting. Some gamblers will start a thread to that complain that they have only registered one account but still are accused of the issue of multi accounting. I am not saying they are all liars, but who do we trust here? Casino that has made the accusation or player who has been accused.
What exactly is multi accounting? and is it that some gamblers do not know when they are defaulting on that? Asides opening multiple accounts in a casino, what else can cause it because the gamblers are always claiming that they do not have another account, and the casinos are not always providing proof of the other account when they make the accusation.

Reasons for multiple accounts may vary but basically, casino see it as form of extortion. If you are a regular gambler and you bet most often, there is a cap on amount you can win in a particular bet and you can't repeate games you have bet on and anyone with multiple account can abuse such privileges by opening plenty of accounts to shiphon money from casino especially when they are good in making good predictions and knows their way out of games.

Just imagine one lucky gambler won $10m from the casino but unfortunately, he has other 10 accounts he is using to bet in that casino and with small amount he was able to win $10m in 10 places, that means the casino will be paying out $100m to a single bettor instead of paying one bet. Such extortion ruin casinos and can even send them to the early grace that many of them don't like, it kills company and put them in debt.

[summonerrk]

It is a common thing to read and hear about casinos banning an account or restricting payment to an account because of the issue of multi accounting. Some gamblers will start a thread to that complain that they have only registered one account but still are accused of the issue of multi accounting. I am not saying they are all liars, but who do we trust here? Casino that has made the accusation or player who has been accused.
What exactly is multi accounting? and is it that some gamblers do not know when they are defaulting on that? Asides opening multiple accounts in a casino, what else can cause it because the gamblers are always claiming that they do not have another account, and the casinos are not always providing proof of the other account when they make the accusation.

It seems to me that multi-accounts from the casino's point of view are always a bad thing that casino users do.
The thing is, if I were a casino owner, I would see no reason for any user to have multiple accounts. After all, it's 100% some kind of fraud, for example, with bonus money for newbies. If a casino tries to encourage newbies with bonuses in the amount of, for example, 100 percent of the deposit, then some bad gambler might start abusing it.

[acroman08]

Asides opening multiple accounts in a casino, what else can cause it because the gamblers are always claiming that they do not have another account, and the casinos are not always providing proof of the other account when they make the accusation.

other possibilities of being accused of multi accounting are, using a VPN, using someone's device, using someone's internet, using a public wifi, using computers in an internet cafe, transacting with a wallet address that belongs to another gambler in the casino, etc...

The things I mentioned are the ones I've seen posted on the scam accusation board over the years as possible reasons for being accused of multi-accounting.

[boyptc]

It is a common thing to read and hear about casinos banning an account or restricting payment to an account because of the issue of multi accounting. Some gamblers will start a thread to that complain that they have only registered one account but still are accused of the issue of multi accounting. I am not saying they are all liars, but who do we trust here? Casino that has made the accusation or player who has been accused.
What exactly is multi accounting? and is it that some gamblers do not know when they are defaulting on that? Asides opening multiple accounts in a casino, what else can cause it because the gamblers are always claiming that they do not have another account, and the casinos are not always providing proof of the other account when they make the accusation.

Every user that has been wrongly accused by the casino for having multi account and if they didn't do anything wrong, they can always protest that ban to the management.

They can ask for another review just to make sure that there is no rule that has been violated by that user if he's honest.

I've seen a lot of cases about that, sometimes those wrongly accused are right and they're given the benefit of the doubt and their accounts and funds are back.

[Hispo]

and the casinos are not always providing proof of the other account when they make the accusation.

The important thing here is whether if the accused can prove himself to be innocent or not. He’s gonna need to present evidence and report claims to the casinos which I am certain that if this casino was legitimate they would not simply ignore your claims and concerns.

If you need to submit personal information to verify you only have that one account then be prepared to do so. You never know maybe the casino is telling the truth and there really is someone else that registered under your name.

Interestingly enough, there is something called dynamic IP addresses, which are rather common in some countries and also depends on one's Internet provider. In the case of my country, most of IP addresses are dynamic, that means we never have the same IP address when we access and browse on the internet. So in theory, there is a small but non-zero chance someone using a casino account in the same website that I am, ends up connecting through the same IP address I used, which would mean we both could be accused of being the same person using two accounts to gamble. In those cases it would be very difficult to prove one's innocence, specially if the staff of the casino is not familiar with the state of IP addresses in one's country.

[dimonstration]

Having multiple account per se will not make your account banned on accessing the casino except on some casino like Stake that has strict multiple account rules.

Stake isn't the only online casino that are known for strict enforcement, Bet365, 888 casinos are other popular casinos rule mainly focus on having one account per person.

I never said that Stake is the only with this strict rules on ToS. I’m just citing an example there’s even a tons of casino that still you didn’t mentioned has same rules.

You will only get banned if 1 of your account violated the casino ToS since all connected account will suffer same punishment. Multiple will not cause punishment if you are using it without abusing bonuses and casino ToS.

Even without abuse, manipulation and disobeying rules, there are some casinos that will ban multiple accounts if they discover an IP address, KYC data, cookies etc. And it will lead to banning all the connected accounts regardless of whether they committed an offense or not.

There’s no casino that will ban multiple account without abusing the ToS  if they don’t multiple account rules on their ToS. Those cookies, KYC data that you mention are all nonsense if there’s no multiple account rules on ToS.

Can you provide specific casino that doing it? This is malpractice on banning account without valid reason.

PS: We are talking about casino with no specific rules about multiple account that still ban user with multiple account since that’s the whole point of your argument.

[dwyane36]

other possibilities of being accused of multi accounting are, using a VPN, using someone's device, using someone's internet, using a public wifi, using computers in an internet cafe, transacting with a wallet address that belongs to another gambler in the casino, etc...

The things I mentioned are the ones I've seen posted on the scam accusation board over the years as possible reasons for being accused of multi-accounting.

There should be no problem with using a vpn if you use it correctly. Of course, if a user uses a public VPN, there is a good chance that someone else has already used that VPN to access the casino. In such a case, there may indeed be problems because the gambling platform may interpret it as multiple accounts. But it's worth noting that not all casinos can react so sharply to the VPN. Some treat it more or less loyally.

[death69]

Multi-accounting sounds obvious - don’t open two accounts, don’t exploit bonuses - but modern digital identity is messier than ever. VPNs. Shared IPs. Families gambling in the same place. Cafés. Device fingerprinting mismatches. This is how "false positives" come to be. The gambler is screwed because the platform always holds the admin keys. They don't have to show proof. They can already play god with ToS

Now, are gamblers lying? Some. Most people don't read the Terms, though. Or even understand that registering from the same Wi-Fi as your roommate can get you flagged. Or that the ID of your device looks the same as someone else's who is using the same emulator two cities away

The house just needs to leave the rules vague enough. And people will somehow break them without knowing. Why is there no clear way to do an audit? Where is the layer of trust? Has no human reviewed this? Casinos claim it's anti-fraud. But they're just anti-user if they ban people without a clear reason or a way to appeal

[Apocollapse]

It's all about bias.

If the casino is trustworthy, has no valid accusation and has a long term campaign/event, most users are believing in casino.

If the casino has no reputation, ever had valid accusation and has no campaign/event, most users are believing in victim.

If you think that you only sign up once and you are accused of having another account, then challenge it, the casino has a system to trace their users' activities, if you are honest that you did not cheat then let a third party look at it and the casino should prove that you are not honest, or they lose their reputation.

Who're these third party? do you know which third party solve an accusation in this forum?

[MarjorieZimmermanGinger]

It is a common thing to read and hear about casinos banning an account or restricting payment to an account because of the issue of multi accounting. Some gamblers will start a thread to that complain that they have only registered one account but still are accused of the issue of multi accounting. I am not saying they are all liars, but who do we trust here? Casino that has made the accusation or player who has been accused.

Every Casino has rules that need to be followed but some users do not read the terms and conditions so when a gambling site does not pay or blocks their account they immediately say the gambling site is a scam. This is a common mistake that often happens and even people create multiple accounts on one site by breaking the rules and we have the right to confirm the accusation but if we fail to prove there is no way to fight the casino. So I think it is necessary to read the rules first and every gambler also needs to comply with every term and condition given so that we will not experience problems when involved in gambling using a particular site.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

I never understand why multi accounting is such a big issue if you don't have an advantage from it. Sure, in some cases players try the circumvent limits, get around bans or do something like abuse bonuses.
But in other cases players just want to have a fresh account because they think they can't win with the other one, superstition so to speak. There shouldn't be a problem with that, especially when players solely play in the casino. They won't have any advantage if they do, so there is nothing to lose for the casino. House edge still stays house edge and in the long run players with multiple accounts just lose the same.

[jcojci]

Greediness make them do that. Some gamblers want to get more from casinos so they create multi account and try to get the bonuses or more. Casinos will prove that in forum by showing the mistake that the gamblers did so the gamblers can not do anything except admitted that they are wrong.

Some gamblers lie to us but if casino can show the evidence, we will not believe to the gamblers but will defend the casino. Gamblers must read the TOS before they create an account and not create more account just to chase the bonuses or other wrong things. However, the casinos can know if their members cheat their system because they have all of their members history and can show it to public.

[Kelward]

I never understand why multi accounting is such a big issue if you don't have an advantage from it. Sure, in some cases players try the circumvent limits, get around bans or do something like abuse bonuses.
But in other cases players just want to have a fresh account because they think they can't win with the other one, superstition so to speak. There shouldn't be a problem with that, especially when players solely play in the casino. They won't have any advantage if they do, so there is nothing to lose for the casino. House edge still stays house edge and in the long run players with multiple accounts just lose the same.

I don't see the essence of multiple accounts in a casino, if it's just for gambling purposes, it's not like one will have more advantage over the other. It could be for superstitious believes like you said and it doesn't make any sense to me because it doesn't work in gambling. If you understand house edge you'd know that multiple accounts is not necessary in gambling, unless the gambler has other reasons for doing so. I don't think that any reputable casinos will intentionally flag any account on the suspicion of multiple accounts because they need customers. If a gambler is innocent he should follow up and fight for it.

[bubilas]

Multi-accounts do not provide any advantage for a gambler or bettor that I know of. And even though many online casinos have KYC, I can't imagine how you can go through this identity verification procedure using documents.
 After all, the same guy will immediately let the casino know that he has several accounts. And if he himself is not against showing these accounts, then what's the point? Maybe different accounts for different games? This also doesn't make sense...

[Yaunfitda]

It is a common thing to read and hear about casinos banning an account or restricting payment to an account because of the issue of multi accounting. Some gamblers will start a thread to that complain that they have only registered one account but still are accused of the issue of multi accounting. I am not saying they are all liars, but who do we trust here? Casino that has made the accusation or player who has been accused.

And that is why there is a scam accusation thread so that we will know who are telling the truth and who's not. Both should give us that, specially the individual who has been accused of multi-account. Because there are times that the casinos are right as they can track everything with the IP address and everything including the OS and the time a supposedly gambled.

What exactly is multi accounting? and is it that some gamblers do not know when they are defaulting on that? Asides opening multiple accounts in a casino, what else can cause it because the gamblers are always claiming that they do not have another account, and the casinos are not always providing proof of the other account when they make the accusation.

I think gamblers knows that it is frown upon or it's not a good practice to have multi-account on casinos. But there are still who wants to do that for unknown reasons, or maybe we can say that they really wanted to cheat the casinos with bonuses or perks.

[Bitinity]

Frankly speaking, multi accounts should not really be an issue if there is no abuse done by the accounts. If I have my own online casinos, I'll let players create accounts as many as they wish and I wont ban them if they do not take an advantage from promotions or bonuses (the free ones). I've been twice accused by casino to have multi accounts, even worst I was banned just after I created an account for the 1st time. At that time I only asked the casino to show me the proof or to tell me the username/email which is suspected to be my other account but unfortunately the casino did not give any response and they stand on their decision. I also do not like about terms of 1 user per IP, because it is like the casino will only let 1 user in a family to be their players. From my pov, it is a loss for the casino because there can be more than 1 person in a family who like to gamble. I would like to see most casino to be more friendly with multi accounts, as long as there is no abuse, multi accounts should not be a big deal for the casino imo.

[lionheart78]

I do not think that a casino suspect anyone of multi-accounting blindly.  We should be informed that a casino uses several methods in tracing account connections.  So whenever a reputable casino is raising a suspicion it might be of the several cases..

Same Contact information through account verification
Same Device Fingerprint
Same IP addresses
Cookie
Payment method
Same Behavior during analysis

These are the criteria used by casino to detect multi-accounting.  If one falls into more than one of these criteria, he might be suspected of multi-accounting.  We can read more explanations about multi-accounting and how casinos detect them in these articles:
How Multi-Account Restrictions Work in Online Casinos
What is Multi-Accounting and Where is it Used?

With regards to family playing in the same casinos using one internet connection, it is already a breach of contract to some casinos that implement 1 user per household IP address. So basically it should not be used as a reason of excuse.