Betfury cancelled $300,000 worth of bets

[holydarkness]

I've calculated the number based on your screenshots myself as well as inquired to them. I guess I'll begin with their "opening" number is not 375,000, rather 330,000, because one of the bet is actually losing before they got cancelled, I guess it's not shown on the images you provided. So, 330,000 USD, 330,258.69 to be precise.

From this number as our opening number, if we're going for half, it'll be 165,129 USD, and you've got 119,750 from the stake returned. Plus extra 5,000 USD bonus that I don't think mentioned anywhere [feel free to confirm or deny]. Using the "opening" number they proposed, halfed as a gesture that both sides willing to meet in the middle, and substracted by what's returned to you:

USD 330,258.69/2 = 165,129
USD 165,129 - 119,750 - 5,000 = USD 40,379

If you're agree to that number?

I don't agree. The bets would've won over 400k+ (about $410,000 I believe). I've already compromised by offering a smaller sum (330k as they calculate it, fine), why would I accept half of that?

As to the $5k, yes, they did give me that as cash, as an apology gesture after they made some accounting errors (which they fixed after I pointed them out). It's still sitting in my account, I've never withdrawn them.

First, abaout the discrepancies between 375,000 and 330,000 [i'll do a rounding here as we all understand the numbers being talked about]. I've inquired to them and they informed me that the losing leg is this bet,



and I didn't take their words at face value and check, of which, it was a losing bet,



Which means, 46,000 were subjected to be deducted from the "opening" number, and it brings us to 330,000, like the number they proposed.

Now, that established, I'd really appreciate if you're going for an open mind here as a gesture of your good will, as they're also agree to attempt this once more instead of full voiding, as a gesture of good will from their own side. It'll be very nice if both parties honored the wish and words of each other, that they'll truly meet in the middle.

You proposed that they honor the cashout and they propose to honor half of the cashout.

I'll say 40,000 is still a good thing a good thing compared to nothing.

Moving further, I'll lay it out in the open and publicly admit there might be an oversight from me. I raked upon their ToS to find clause that justifies them to cancel your multi bets, and they do don't have a clause in their tos where they can cancel multi-bets unilaterally, the ToS they have about multi-legged bets was talking about a cancellation due to match didn't finish. I've read them word by word, letter by letter, all in their point 4 of "Placing a Stake".

However, apparently, they do have a clause on point 6, that say,



and I regret to inform you that based from the information they provided, not only they have that right, from 6.1., but also further emphasized with an enough reason to void [so the call was not done baselessly or out of grudge or other malicious intent] as per 6.4.3., unfair practice, which was flagged by their provider.

They have their eyes on you for so long for the technique you're utilizing, and I'll do the courtesy of not divulging to the public of your betting strategy that they and their provider deemed as a violation. But given they've set their eyes on you for so long, that the provider flag you as a very high risk bettor, I believe you've repeat this more than plenty and fully know what you're doing.

Personally, upon hearing their rebuttal, I think that's a clever strategy and there's nothing wrong about it. But unfortunately, upon doing my own DD of raking their ToS amongst several other things, it does match the point they prohibit on 6.4.3.

Bottomline: they do have the right to cancel your bet. Unilaterally.

Now, I'll emphasize this [suppose it is not clear enough] I couldn't care less of the outcome of this case. You refused to meet them in the middle and choose to escalate by flag them, maybe some DT will support the flag, depending on how you craft your wordings for the flag. Other DT will not though, upon this revelation of possible breach of ToS.

Still, if you somehow managed to activate the flag and their reputation got tarnished, my world will not end. I'll just wake up tomorrow with same brew of coffee, sitting in my chair and reading work related IRL emails and the forum. That much the outcome of this case affect me. Whether you come out with some funds in your pocket or they got flagged, it affect me at the barest.

However, I do really hope that the outcome is you with more funds. As I think it is very much favorable, if I were you.

Even further, suppose someone who [we're talking imaginative person here] said they have arbitraging cases longer than me [well, I'll take their words at face value as I never arbitrage, I'm simply bridging] suggested "go to ADR, got to AG, got CG, go to their licensor, sue them," I personally think those third party will rule in favor of the casino following their explanation and the evidence they also shared with me and the ToS you breached.

Plus [not posting this to brag, but rather to emphasize that I don't think you can get similar discussion on AG or CG or whatever else others whispered to you], this:



I deliberately cropped it that way to show that it is not me typing it. As you can see, it's on the left side of the chat, not right side, it's their bubbles. And no, I did not violate the privacy I guaranteed to those who reach and share through personal means of communication with me. My oath of silence was not broken, because that is part of their final standing that they'll publish.

To give a beter context and to show you [and public who relentlessly accusing me of always siding with casino] this is what happened for the past one month and few days since I get ahold of their contact:

They come to a verdict, namely voiding your bets. I asked them to reconsider and argued several points. They asked time to discuss and come bac and informed me that unfortunatelly they can't budge, and give an even further explanation of why. I asked them again to reconsider [practically begged them] and wondered if they are willing to meet in the middle with me bridging between you both, to a desired outcome. Then come the third statement.

Three times they made a verdict, and each time I asked them to reconsider.

The snippet above is their final standing. So yes, I don't think you can get this discussion on AG or CG or whatever ADR, as those ADR will very likely close the case and rule in favor of the casino following their explanation and supporting evidence.

And this is where I stand, where I previously ready to drop this case as it bring me too much headache. Yet I am here, with their final offer, so you can at least get something.

40,000 USD is the offer they have in hand. You can take it and we can each go to our separate way, or you can continue your battle and I'll stick to my earlier statement of removing myself as I don't have any interest in gulping any more ergotamine for this case.


p.s.: suppose someone somehow managed to try to twist this is me "thratening" the player or "forcing" him, no. I am not. I am simply laying everything in the open. I couldn't care less what his decision is. He take the offer? Good. I'll convey and get the fund delivered. He refuses the offer and pursue another path? Also good, I'll take my leave and will be waiting for an update of the case from spectator seat. I'll still get my inner peace regardless of the choice.

[Rating Place]

Edited the post since we’re trying to make it complicated.

1. Betfury cancelled bets.
2. All bets that were final at the time count. BetFury can't retroactively cancel a bet.
3.All legs that are open, get cancelled.
4. OP should be paid all wins. Cash out value can be used although it’s not full value and the player should receive this at minimum.

Holy, look at the evidence and give your opinion on what should be done and then you walk if you want. Should have taken 10 minutes. Only look at the rules Bet Fury states that are broken. Don’t read the whole ToS trying to find something that helps their case. No one else will agree with Bet Fury. Throw out rules that wouldn’t hold up in court.

[dplay]

First, abaout the discrepancies between 375,000 and 330,000 [i'll do a rounding here as we all understand the numbers being talked about]. I've inquired to them and they informed me that the losing leg is this bet,



and I didn't take their words at face value and check, of which, it was a losing bet,

I don't know at which point on that day they canceled my bets, and until I proposed I be paid according to the "Cashout" value it didn't matter. But sure, let's say that they are right and the number is 330k.

Moving further, I'll lay it out in the open and publicly admit there might be an oversight from me. I raked upon their ToS to find clause that justifies them to cancel your multi bets, and they do don't have a clause in their tos where they can cancel multi-bets unilaterally, the ToS they have about multi-legged bets was talking about a cancellation due to match didn't finish. I've read them word by word, letter by letter, all in their point 4 of "Placing a Stake".

However, apparently, they do have a clause on point 6, that say,



and I regret to inform you that based from the information they provided, not only they have that right, from 6.1., but also further emphasized with an enough reason to void [so the call was not done baselessly or out of grudge or other malicious intent] as per 6.4.3., unfair practice, which was flagged by their provider.

First of all, 6.1 refers to rejecting a bet which is not the same as canceling.

Regarding the part of the ToS where they claim they can cancel any bet - if they decide to stick by it then no one informed with half a brain would ever play there. That's not how sportsbooks are run, that's rogue. That's why we're talking here on the forum now so that the gambling community gets an insight of their practices.

As for 6.4.3 - they've yet to provide info of any wrongdoing. Just saying "player high risk" doesn't mean anything.

They have their eyes on you for so long for the technique you're utilizing, and I'll do the courtesy of not divulging to the public of your betting strategy that they and their provider deemed as a violation. But given they've set their eyes on you for so long, that the provider flag you as a very high risk bettor, I believe you've repeat this more than plenty and fully know what you're doing.

Personally, upon hearing their rebuttal, I think that's a clever strategy and there's nothing wrong about it. But unfortunately, upon doing my own DD of raking their ToS amongst several other things, it does match the point they prohibit on 6.4.3.

Bottomline: they do have the right to cancel your bet. Unilaterally.

Feel free to expose my betting strategy to the public. I give you full permission.

Even further, suppose someone who [we're talking imaginative person here] said they have arbitraging cases longer than me [well, I'll take their words at face value as I never arbitrage, I'm simply bridging] suggested "go to ADR, got to AG, got CG, go to their licensor, sue them," I personally think those third party will rule in favor of the casino following their explanation and the evidence they also shared with me and the ToS you breached.

Yes, arbitrage services are hit and miss, they do tend to side with the casino as they are funded by their affiliate schemes. But again, you speak of the evidence yet not you nor the casino is willing to post it here.

Please post evidence.

Plus [not posting this to brag, but rather to emphasize that I don't think you can get similar discussion on AG or CG or whatever else others whispered to you], this:



I deliberately cropped it that way to show that it is not me typing it. As you can see, it's on the left side of the chat, not right side, it's their bubbles. And no, I did not violate the privacy I guaranteed to those who reach and share through personal means of communication with me. My oath of silence was not broken, because that is part of their final standing that they'll publish.

Now you're posting their baseless accusations of me. What numbers did I "invent"?

40,000 USD is the offer they have in hand. You can take it and we can each go to our separate way, or you can continue your battle and I'll stick to my earlier statement of removing myself as I don't have any interest in gulping any more ergotamine for this case.

Why are they offering anything if they have evidence that I have defrauded them?

p.s.: suppose someone somehow managed to try to twist this is me "thratening" the player or "forcing" him, no. I am not. I am simply laying everything in the open. I couldn't care less what his decision is. He take the offer? Good. I'll convey and get the fund delivered. He refuses the offer and pursue another path? Also good, I'll take my leave and will be waiting for an update of the case from spectator seat. I'll still get my inner peace regardless of the choice.

For what it's worth I don't think you're siding with the casino. I'm appreciative of your involvement as ever.

I do feel that we made the case much more complicated than it needs to be. It'd be much simpler if the sporsbook (who has a rep on this forum) just replied with their evidence. If they don't they're gonna suffer reputational damage.

[holydarkness]

[...]

I believe there is a misunderstanding from your side here. I am not in interest to discuss further whether your accusation is valid, their counter-accusation is valid, ToS was broken, a combo was wrongly voided, a combo was rightfully voided, or anything else. I am here simply to bridge you both to a number.

I don't want to sound rude, and I am not trying to be rude, I simply state plainly what I have in mind: it's either you take what they offer, counter-offer with something reasonable from the range they offer so I can ask them to reconsider [I don't think they will], or find someone to adddress all of those paragraphs you write above.

Anything beyond that, is out of my hand.

[Rating Place]

The reason that I keep harping on the point that we are making easy cases complicated is best exemplified in this case. The question is what proof does the book have of wrongdoing. That's the only question. The OP gave permission to post it. If they don't post it, the player is innocent.

This has been going on since May 18.

[dplay]

[...]

I believe there is a misunderstanding from your side here. I am not in interest to discuss further whether your accusation is valid, their counter-accusation is valid, ToS was broken, a combo was wrongly voided, a combo was rightfully voided, or anything else. I am here simply to bridge you both to a number.

I don't want to sound rude, and I am not trying to be rude, I simply state plainly what I have in mind: it's either you take what they offer, counter-offer with something reasonable from the range they offer so I can ask them to reconsider [I don't think they will], or find someone to adddress all of those paragraphs you write above.

Anything beyond that, is out of my hand.

I was willing to be reasonable when I offered to forgo ~$80k (bets won about 410k, cashout feature according to them was 330k). 40k is insulting.

[holydarkness]

[...]

I believe there is a misunderstanding from your side here. I am not in interest to discuss further whether your accusation is valid, their counter-accusation is valid, ToS was broken, a combo was wrongly voided, a combo was rightfully voided, or anything else. I am here simply to bridge you both to a number.

I don't want to sound rude, and I am not trying to be rude, I simply state plainly what I have in mind: it's either you take what they offer, counter-offer with something reasonable from the range they offer so I can ask them to reconsider [I don't think they will], or find someone to adddress all of those paragraphs you write above.

Anything beyond that, is out of my hand.

I was willing to be reasonable when I offered to forgo ~$80k (bets won about 410k, cashout feature according to them was 330k). 40k is insulting.

To be fair, it's not 40,000. In total, it'll be 165,129, an exact half of the cashout. the first 125,000 had been returned through return of stake and 5,000 bonus. But I take it that you're refusing to accept the deal and it is off the table? Upon your confirmation, I'll inform my contact that you choose not to accept, and after that, I'll withdraw myself from this matter.

[dplay]

[...]

I believe there is a misunderstanding from your side here. I am not in interest to discuss further whether your accusation is valid, their counter-accusation is valid, ToS was broken, a combo was wrongly voided, a combo was rightfully voided, or anything else. I am here simply to bridge you both to a number.

I don't want to sound rude, and I am not trying to be rude, I simply state plainly what I have in mind: it's either you take what they offer, counter-offer with something reasonable from the range they offer so I can ask them to reconsider [I don't think they will], or find someone to adddress all of those paragraphs you write above.

Anything beyond that, is out of my hand.

I was willing to be reasonable when I offered to forgo ~$80k (bets won about 410k, cashout feature according to them was 330k). 40k is insulting.

To be fair, it's not 40,000. In total, it'll be 165,129, an exact half of the cashout. the first 125,000 had been returned through return of stake and 5,000 bonus. But I take it that you're refusing to accept the deal and it is off the table? Upon your confirmation, I'll inform my contact that you choose not to accept, and after that, I'll withdraw myself from this matter.

To be fair it's 40k out of ~300k, however they try to spin the numbers. I refuse.

They should also have the sense to realize that 40k is not gonna motivate me, they can see the numbers I gamble with. It also seems as an admission of guilt, not a good look for them.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

To be fair it's 40k out of ~300k, however they try to spin the numbers. I refuse.

They should also have the sense to realize that 40k is not gonna motivate me, they can see the numbers I gamble with. It also seems as an admission of guilt, not a good look for them.

I thought your argument is they cancelled your bets with the legs remained open and the result of those legs were settled in your favour which is why you are asking to get paid for the betslips?

If this is the case then I see you would lose a slip because one of your selection had wrong outcome than the outcome you picked.

Now what do you want?
Compensate you the value of the slip when it was closed or compensate you for the slip that you would eventually lose if it was not closed.

They are trying to come to a solution but it seems you are trying to blame their goodwill using it as a tool of your argument as well as insulting a forum user who is trying to help you selflessly.

If you have so much ego then why not you get out of this place and seek help from other random platforms. I wonder no other platform showed interest in your accusations.

[Rating Place]

To be fair it's 40k out of ~300k, however they try to spin the numbers. I refuse.

They should also have the sense to realize that 40k is not gonna motivate me, they can see the numbers I gamble with. It also seems as an admission of guilt, not a good look for them.

I thought your argument is they cancelled your bets with the legs remained open and the result of those legs were settled in your favour which is why you are asking to get paid for the betslips?

If this is the case then I see you would lose a slip because one of your selection had wrong outcome than the outcome you picked.

Now what do you want?
Compensate you the value of the slip when it was closed or compensate you for the slip that you would eventually lose if it was not closed.

They are trying to come to a solution but it seems you are trying to blame their goodwill using it as a tool of your argument as well as insulting a forum user who is trying to help you selflessly.

If you have so much ego then why not you get out of this place and seek help from other random platforms. I wonder no other platform showed interest in your accusations.

He offered to accept the cash out value which is less than the true value. This ignores the results of open legs.

Betfury then offered to pay half the cash out value and the OP said no.

[holydarkness]

To be fair, it's not 40,000. In total, it'll be 165,129, an exact half of the cashout. the first 125,000 had been returned through return of stake and 5,000 bonus. But I take it that you're refusing to accept the deal and it is off the table? Upon your confirmation, I'll inform my contact that you choose not to accept, and after that, I'll withdraw myself from this matter.

To be fair it's 40k out of ~300k, however they try to spin the numbers. I refuse.

They should also have the sense to realize that 40k is not gonna motivate me, they can see the numbers I gamble with. It also seems as an admission of guilt, not a good look for them.

I understand correctly that your number is then 205,000 USD? Of which come from the fund available for cashout [330,000] minus the amount already returned to you, 125,000? And you will not settle for something less? Something closer to their offer of 40,000?

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

I was checking his screenshots and found that even if all the bets were settled after finding the official results then the OP would not win 11 bets out of the 15 bets however the way OP designed the thread I thought all his bets were going to win LOL.









An interesting observation: From 7th November last year to 26th November OP seems to have a full office setup with several people who understand the game. First they selected a few matches from football and NBA. Once the matches are sorted then individuals were assigned to analyze team history, players strengths, pitch conditions, head to head stats including everything that can affect the result of their selected markets. Nice homework. I never saw such intense combo slips with such intense planning. No wonder casino decided to minimize the risk. You are not a gambler but a business man. Casino does not need business man, they need gamblers.

[Rating Place]

I was checking his screenshots and found that even if all the bets were settled after finding the official results then the OP would not win 11 bets out of the 15 bets however the way OP designed the thread I thought all his bets were going to win LOL.









An interesting observation: From 7th November last year to 26th November OP seems to have a full office setup with several people who understand the game. First they selected a few matches from football and NBA. Once the matches are sorted then individuals were assigned to analyze team history, players strengths, pitch conditions, head to head stats including everything that can affect the result of their selected markets. Nice homework. I never saw such intense combo slips with such intense planning. No wonder casino decided to minimize the risk. You are not a gambler but a business man. Casino does not need business man, they need gamblers.

I don’t see it as some elaborate setup. I didn’t notice the dates until you mentioned it but the bets may have been open parlays but can’t tell by the tickets. He bet the NFL and NBA which are the most efficient markets in the world along with major soccer leagues and tough to beat by anyone.

Even if it was some elaborate operation, he needs to be paid. Bet Fury found him high risk and cancelled the last legs. Bet Fury shouldn’t do that. Bet Fury has the right to limit or ban the player but they shouldn’t cancel what’s open.

We can’t keep making exceptions for a handful of crypto books that are enforcing different rules than other books around the world.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

We can’t keep making exceptions for a handful of crypto books that are enforcing different rules than other books around the world.

When the red flag triggered what do you think Betfury was supposed to do?
Wait until they get ripped off or cancel the bets (As a platform they have the right to reject a bet)?

[Rating Place]

We can’t keep making exceptions for a handful of crypto books that are enforcing different rules than other books around the world.

When the red flag triggered what do you think Betfury was supposed to do?
Wait until they get ripped off or cancel the bets (As a platform they have the right to reject a bet)?

No one is getting ripped off. Betfury cancelled the last bet of the parlays. The other bets that went final cannot be cancelled. I can't stress enough that these flags do not mean that a player has done something wrong. The flag says that the book may want to limit or ban future play. What Betfury is doing is unique to every book including the crypto books.

[holydarkness]

I was checking his screenshots and found that even if all the bets were settled after finding the official results then the OP would not win 11 bets out of the 15 bets however the way OP designed the thread I thought all his bets were going to win LOL.

[...]

Hmm, this is interesting.

So, I previously said that I have barest idea of what OP tried to convey with his supporting evidence [screenshots] as it's quite distorted from my screen and I don't have enough brainpower and space on my plate at that time to analyze the image. So I take OP's words for granted.

And then we move and move and ended up on an attempt of settlement, and I didn't look twice as I take OP's word at face value, that his bets are winning suppose they are not unilaterally cancelled by BetFury, so I didn't look twice.

Upon above prompt, I spend a long long hour running the whole screenshots one by one, below should be the real result, suppose BetFury didn't cancel the bets and let them go to their end naturally, where two images are like what BGC said above, that none of the bets were winning combo-bets. And the other one, I mark the open bets that's valid for winning [suppose not voided] in green, and the ones that'll be a losing leg and mark the bet as losing combo in red. As well as marking in yellow where the cashout value won't matter much as the bets will be a losing combo-bet anyway:

[supporting images of the result according to quick google search are below the line]
[each image in this post is in full-linked mode, so the bigger resolution for eye-comfort is just one click away]
[sans the two combo-bets at the bottom of image #3 as it didn't show details of the bets.







So, OP, with that new fact unearthed, our opening number, suppose you want to settle with the cashout of eligible bets paid to you, will be far from 330,000, it will be as below, neglecting the two combo-bets that's unclear:



And if we substract the amount with what they already returned to you, we'll be on USD 72,175.92.



I'll ask you once again if you're willing to take that 40,000 USD and be satisfied with it and mark the case as resolved, or pursue that other 32,176 in other way that is out of my business and mind how and where and what.











Edit: tidying post.

[Rating Place]

Every time you see a cashout, that's a winner. The OP could have taken that money. The results of all the open bets are cancelled and irrelevant since Betfury cancelled the open bets. Only consider the cashout amounts and add that total.

A lot of times, people will come back and hedge the last leg elsewhere and you can't keep him guessing if the last leg is good or not after cancelling.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Every time you see a cashout, that's a winner. The OP could have taken that money. The results of all the open bets are cancelled and irrelevant since Betfury cancelled the open bets. Only consider the cashout amounts and add that total.

A lot of times, people will come back and hedge the last leg elsewhere and you can't keep him guessing if the last leg is good or not after cancelling.

You are telling that Betfury needs to pay the OP the potential losing bets too?
If that was the case then it was very straight forward but since the beginning it never was dealt like that.

Betfury acted upon their risk management and they can do it as a platform. Now they are trying to honer the request from the community, if we consider it as their weekness  then it will be a shame.

So far it become clear that OP was manipating the numbers, who knows what else he is still hiding from us. I really don't believe these people who start accusing established businesses in the forum.

[Rating Place]

Every time you see a cashout, that's a winner. The OP could have taken that money. The results of all the open bets are cancelled and irrelevant since Betfury cancelled the open bets. Only consider the cashout amounts and add that total.

A lot of times, people will come back and hedge the last leg elsewhere and you can't keep him guessing if the last leg is good or not after cancelling.

You are telling that Betfury needs to pay the OP the potential losing bets too?
If that was the case then it was very straight forward but since the beginning it never was dealt like that.

Betfury acted upon their risk management and they can do it as a platform. Now they are trying to honer the request from the community, if we consider it as their weekness  then it will be a shame.

So far it become clear that OP was manipating the numbers, who knows what else he is still hiding from us. I really don't believe these people who start accusing established businesses in the forum.

No one was manipulating numbers. Show us how the OP manipulated numbers? You can't just make blanket statements with no facts. All other sportsbooks in the world pay. Betfury can cancel individual games, which they did, but not retroactively cancel after a game has gone final.

Edit- why are people fighting so hard and spending so much time to help Bet Fury?  Be neutral and look at the evidence they produce and their argument. Both sides are using cash out value but Bet Fury wants to pay half.

[dplay]

I was checking his screenshots and found that even if all the bets were settled after finding the official results then the OP would not win 11 bets out of the 15 bets however the way OP designed the thread I thought all his bets were going to win LOL.

[...]

Hmm, this is interesting.

So, I previously said that I have barest idea of what OP tried to convey with his supporting evidence [screenshots] as it's quite distorted from my screen and I don't have enough brainpower and space on my plate at that time to analyze the image. So I take OP's words for granted.

And then we move and move and ended up on an attempt of settlement, and I didn't look twice as I take OP's word at face value, that his bets are winning suppose they are not unilaterally cancelled by BetFury, so I didn't look twice.

Upon above prompt, I spend a long long hour running the whole screenshots one by one, below should be the real result, suppose BetFury didn't cancel the bets and let them go to their end naturally, where two images are like what BGC said above, that none of the bets were winning combo-bets. And the other one, I mark the open bets that's valid for winning [suppose not voided] in green, and the ones that'll be a losing leg and mark the bet as losing combo in red. As well as marking in yellow where the cashout value won't matter much as the bets will be a losing combo-bet anyway:

[supporting images of the result according to quick google search are below the line]
[each image in this post is in full-linked mode, so the bigger resolution for eye-comfort is just one click away]
[sans the two combo-bets at the bottom of image #3 as it didn't show details of the bets.







So, OP, with that new fact unearthed, our opening number, suppose you want to settle with the cashout of eligible bets paid to you, will be far from 330,000, it will be as below, neglecting the two combo-bets that's unclear:



And if we substract the amount with what they already returned to you, we'll be on USD 72,175.92.



I'll ask you once again if you're willing to take that 40,000 USD and be satisfied with it and mark the case as resolved, or pursue that other 32,176 in other way that is out of my business and mind how and where and what.











Edit: tidying post.

To reiterate, the bets would go on to win over $400k (thanks for color coding the slips) if they didn't void them.

To compromise, I offered to have all the bets valued at the "Cash out" feature value at the moment of cancelation, which was ~$330k. I was quite explicit about that, posted screenshots of our email conversation with all the numbers included. There is and can be no confusion.

You now ask me to take only the "cash out" value of the bets that would go on to win, which is ridiculous and doesn't make any sense.

And then we move and move and ended up on an attempt of settlement, and I didn't look twice as I take OP's word at face value, that his bets are winning suppose they are not unilaterally cancelled by BetFury, so I didn't look twice.

And upon looking twice you've confirmed my numbers, thanks. Please point out where I've lied or manipulated.

So, OP, with that new fact unearthed

What is the new fact you unearthed exactly? Please point to one instance where I've lied, imagined numbers (as per betfury's accusation you screenshoted and posted) or misled anyone in any way.
 
Once again, I proposed the bets be settled at the "cashout" value of all bets (~330k) thus making a compromise and leaving 80k on the table. It's simple stuff.