[Call to action] BC.game is not entity that should be trusted.

[holydarkness]

Sorry for being silence for couple of days in regards to this case, be it on this thread or on its sister board. I... do my own DD in the abasence of my contact's response and what I found, I'm not sure how to word my findings. I probably will come with something to say later tonight, after I tackled my IRL matters and have more time at hand.

For the time being though, OP, if you can help me understand better, because I am not sure I get it right:

[...]
p.s. just to show you how far I'm fighting for the money legitimately won, I've involved UK Gambling Commission in this, to which they forced Stake and BC.game out of UK: https://casinobeats.com/2024/12/02/bc-game-ends-uk-operation-as-speculation-elevates/

Were you saying that you're involved in a court action or something about this? Because the article is simply about BC UK, no mention of you there. And... if I am not wrong, they're still with Leichester or whichever team on EPL, no?

And while we're at it, might as well divulge more on your involvement in this situation and or how the article related to your matter? I scanned the article and it barely mention BC. Or you.

and just couple days ago, TGP Europe (daddy's firm) did similar to what BC did in Curacao - https://sigma.world/news/gambling-commission-forces-tgp-europe-out-of-gb-market/

Before we proceed further, please note that this thread is not intended for my own case, but rather deep dive into BC.game outside of my case, so please don't mix it up. Thread in scam accusations is related to my case, this one is broad overview of BC.game.
[...]

Noted, then I shall pull myself a full brake on this and address my findings on that thread, as it is where we shall address your matter. And perhaps, after we cleared that matter, I'll hop back into this one and address the matter globally as you intended this thread for. Or perhaps, I don't need to. From where I stand right now, it all depends on the outcome of that thread when we get to the bottom of your case. Nonetheless, I'll sit back and eat popcorn while reading discussions and speculations on this thread.

[gh0573d]

If you are the reason BC Game were expelled from the UK market and if you manage to get them expelled from Cyprus, Belize and the US it will certainly hit them hard financially. They must be regretting the day they did not settle with you.

From their perspective, BC Game did state they were against the bankruptcy ruling and disputed it but it cannot alter the fact they obtained a licence from Anjouan after losing their Curacao licence under the circumstances you described.

As for the $7 million winner, it was resolved in the end but your case was not.

It was.

It's not the largest (there was $7m guy last year), but so far it is the largest they're doing everything in their power not to pay because, others included in this bankruptcy case and I made a mess with their Curacao license and just don't want to deal with us anymore at all.

p.s. just to show you how far I'm fighting for the money legitimately won, I've involved UK Gambling Commission in this, to which they forced Stake and BC.game out of UK: https://casinobeats.com/2024/12/02/bc-game-ends-uk-operation-as-speculation-elevates/

I have no motivation to stop, unless I get what's legitimately owed to me. I have plans to take them out (legally) off of Cyprus (Fenice Tech), Belize (Twocent Technology) and US, unless I get my winnings paid.

and just couple days ago, TGP Europe (daddy's firm) did similar to what BC did in Curacao - https://sigma.world/news/gambling-commission-forces-tgp-europe-out-of-gb-market/

The matter of me being successful like I was previously is the only obstacle in getting that resolution in other markets. I know for the fact that USDA of Miami-Dade County is pursuing investigation into their US-targeted advertising efforts and will (soon?) release public statement in regards to them. For the Belize and Cyprus, that's going to be legal battle (same/similar to Curacao one), so lets see if we're going to be successful.

I'm not much of an optimistic person in regards to my case, but nonetheless I have no intention to stop in regards to exposing BCgame for what they really are - scammers and liars.

Sorry for being silence for couple of days in regards to this case, be it on this thread or on its sister board. I... do my own DD in the abasence of my contact's response and what I found, I'm not sure how to word my findings. I probably will come with something to say later tonight, after I tackled my IRL matters and have more time at hand.

For the time being though, OP, if you can help me understand better, because I am not sure I get it right:

[...]
p.s. just to show you how far I'm fighting for the money legitimately won, I've involved UK Gambling Commission in this, to which they forced Stake and BC.game out of UK: https://casinobeats.com/2024/12/02/bc-game-ends-uk-operation-as-speculation-elevates/

Were you saying that you're involved in a court action or something about this? Because the article is simply about BC UK, no mention of you there. And... if I am not wrong, they're still with Leichester or whichever team on EPL, no?

And while we're at it, might as well divulge more on your involvement in this situation and or how the article related to your matter? I scanned the article and it barely mention BC. Or you.

and just couple days ago, TGP Europe (daddy's firm) did similar to what BC did in Curacao - https://sigma.world/news/gambling-commission-forces-tgp-europe-out-of-gb-market/

Before we proceed further, please note that this thread is not intended for my own case, but rather deep dive into BC.game outside of my case, so please don't mix it up. Thread in scam accusations is related to my case, this one is broad overview of BC.game.
[...]

Noted, then I shall pull myself a full brake on this and address my findings on that thread, as it is where we shall address your matter. And perhaps, after we cleared that matter, I'll hop back into this one and address the matter globally as you intended this thread for. Or perhaps, I don't need to. From where I stand right now, it all depends on the outcome of that thread when we get to the bottom of your case. Nonetheless, I'll sit back and eat popcorn while reading discussions and speculations on this thread.

Appreciate the understanding. As far as you giving your opinions, please do so, regardless of my case. After all, you should be able to give us some insights as well (provided that you want) on how things are going in regards to your contacts.

offtopic: thank you for even taking time to read my complaint and even trying to address it to your contacts. Regardless of the outcome, I don't have negative feedback as I understand how tricky it can be. Cheers

[BenCodie]

I will be creating a flag after I have posted my next thread about bc.game. I will include this case in the thread though I can't support this right away as there is the he said she said about the multiple accounts. Otherwise, it seems like a very valid and shocking (to some) case (that they declared bankruptcy to avoid paying settlements/court). There have been many threads posted against them now and what is abundantly clear is that they are closing/locking accounts and only resolving issues for those who have the capacity to come and post on bitcointalk/pursue on review services.

So, I'm not the only one.

They did not declared bankruptcy, court did, but they "surrendered" license (even though they knew it's going to be revoked by GCB) and moved to Anjouan, leaving others like me stranded.

No, you're not. There have been tens, maybe hundreds of cases against bc.game. A lot of them are newbies who had never joined the forum, and had created a thread which was resolved by their PR representative. BC.game resolve any thread posted here as resolving scam accusations make it look like they're legitimate, when the reality is that they only help those who speak up on the forum, while many others who aren't aware of the forum, can't complete kyc, have language barriers and so on, can't speak up.

Though look around. BC.game sponsor just about every member on this forum, whether it be through signature campaign advertisements or sponsored threads...it is clear that they're recycling the wealth they're accumulating from both their casino business and from scamming into advertising on and off of the forum. So, it's very difficult to have a real and objective discussion about them and their practices without the mouths that feed them to, for example, leave a negative trust on your profile calling you a charlatan (which is what has happened to me).

And if you just look at most recent cases against BC.game here on forum and in Casino Guru, their representatives don't engage at all, and most of complaints end up "resolved" based on the words said by BC.game to CG or third party trying to mediate (holydarkness), so at the end newbies like me don't stand a chance of getting resolution, because their "representative" is word from God.

Why would (for example) Casino guru care about player while they're raking affiliate money from BC game? It is in their interest to keep BCG's trust high enough for people to sign up. Although AskGamblers is BCG affiliate as well, it seems they're trying to do a bit more in regards to transparency. rating them 2.3, but I'm afraid that majority of complaints end up in trash bin because at the end of the day, BC game is trusted platform and players are "guilty until proven otherwise" by default. None of those platforms even question their shady tactics, because players like me mostly end up accepting the fact they were scammed and do nothing to inform others. After all, it's our words against "reputable" platform.

I don't blame other victims, but on the other hand I personally won't stop fighting for what's rightfully mine, even if it includes decade-long fight. And I won't stop until I receive what's rightfully mine. My legal actions forced them out of Curacao and United Kingdom, and this is just a start. I can safely say that United States is going to be their next, and by far the biggest doom, as they thought that they can get away with advertising in US market but blocking US traffic is enough. And of course, Belize and Cyprus will be next two court proceedings against them. Anjouan licensing might lack of regulations, but that license has been assigned to entity outside of Anjouan, and I'm coming for it.

Sorry for way too much off-topic, anger in me just raises to the surface whenever I see scammers, and by far BCG is one of the biggest out there...

I'm of them being favored. They'd have a lot of resources to protect their image with platforms and people. There's not a lot of hope in their operation genuinely being exposed and scrutinized as anything that makes it to the public surface mostly gets resolved.

I made a small amount of effort to test the water as to whether the community cared about this parasite entity. The community doesn't. They care more about getting paid. When the discussion arises about the clearly corrupt way of operating it is countered unreasonably to the point where third party readers are scared to reply (and in worse cases like mine, left negative trust and called a charlatan), or end up being ignored.

While you shouldn't stop to fight for what is yours, don't let it take away from your life, and remember that corruption in the world runs much deeper than bc.game. While they are a large point of corruption in general, it goes further (who provides their license, who lets them keep it, why the gambling regulator doesn't take a lot of action, are all valid questions about corruption that is bigger than bc.game).

[JollyGood]

It has become very difficult to defend the behaviour of BC Game.

Clearly with hindsight, had BC Game known matters would deteriorate to this extent they would have saved themselves the hassle and would have settled with you when the issue arose.

I can understand their perspective as there is a reluctance to settle with you because they are claiming they are 100% innocent of the bankruptcy ruling and to save face cannot settle with you even though they probably know you will challenge them in other jurisdictions and they will suffer immensely when rulings are made against them.

Unfortunately for BC Game, they have suffered the consequences of challenging a determined and confident individual such as yourself and now they are paying the price with their reputation damaged beyond repair.

The matter of me being successful like I was previously is the only obstacle in getting that resolution in other markets. I know for the fact that USDA of Miami-Dade County is pursuing investigation into their US-targeted advertising efforts and will (soon?) release public statement in regards to them. For the Belize and Cyprus, that's going to be legal battle (same/similar to Curacao one), so lets see if we're going to be successful.

I'm not much of an optimistic person in regards to my case, but nonetheless I have no intention to stop in regards to exposing BCgame for what they really are - scammers and liars.

[gh0573d]

It has become very difficult to defend the behaviour of BC Game.

Clearly with hindsight, had BC Game known matters would deteriorate to this extent they would have saved themselves the hassle and would have settled with you when the issue arose.

I can understand their perspective as there is a reluctance to settle with you because they are claiming they are 100% innocent of the bankruptcy ruling and to save face cannot settle with you even though they probably know you will challenge them in other jurisdictions and they will suffer immensely when rulings are made against them.

Unfortunately for BC Game, they have suffered the consequences of challenging a determined and confident individual such as yourself and now they are paying the price with their reputation damaged beyond repair.

The matter of me being successful like I was previously is the only obstacle in getting that resolution in other markets. I know for the fact that USDA of Miami-Dade County is pursuing investigation into their US-targeted advertising efforts and will (soon?) release public statement in regards to them. For the Belize and Cyprus, that's going to be legal battle (same/similar to Curacao one), so lets see if we're going to be successful.

I'm not much of an optimistic person in regards to my case, but nonetheless I have no intention to stop in regards to exposing BCgame for what they really are - scammers and liars.

Understandably, if they were 100% sure they were innocent, they should've taken legal path to fighting claims in court, which would've cost them nothing, other than depositing amount of claims (which was $2.X m as I was not the only claimant, but the only one publicly talking) and providing banknote guarantee that they're solvent and could settle in case they lose in court. They didn't, and instead went to blame outdated laws of Curacao for them being declared bankrupt and just evading actual laws from the country they held their business with.

And you are on point - settling with me or any other player (except one, which from day 1 they settled, lowest amount in case) would mean that they've made mistake, but unfortunately that's going to cost them 10x more. I have no intention of backing off, legally and publicly. It appears that Bloomberg is also investigating Curacao gambling and thanks to SBGOK, our story will (probably) be published there as well.

I will be creating a flag after I have posted my next thread about bc.game. I will include this case in the thread though I can't support this right away as there is the he said she said about the multiple accounts. Otherwise, it seems like a very valid and shocking (to some) case (that they declared bankruptcy to avoid paying settlements/court). There have been many threads posted against them now and what is abundantly clear is that they are closing/locking accounts and only resolving issues for those who have the capacity to come and post on bitcointalk/pursue on review services.

So, I'm not the only one.

They did not declared bankruptcy, court did, but they "surrendered" license (even though they knew it's going to be revoked by GCB) and moved to Anjouan, leaving others like me stranded.

No, you're not. There have been tens, maybe hundreds of cases against bc.game. A lot of them are newbies who had never joined the forum, and had created a thread which was resolved by their PR representative. BC.game resolve any thread posted here as resolving scam accusations make it look like they're legitimate, when the reality is that they only help those who speak up on the forum, while many others who aren't aware of the forum, can't complete kyc, have language barriers and so on, can't speak up.

Though look around. BC.game sponsor just about every member on this forum, whether it be through signature campaign advertisements or sponsored threads...it is clear that they're recycling the wealth they're accumulating from both their casino business and from scamming into advertising on and off of the forum. So, it's very difficult to have a real and objective discussion about them and their practices without the mouths that feed them to, for example, leave a negative trust on your profile calling you a charlatan (which is what has happened to me).

And if you just look at most recent cases against BC.game here on forum and in Casino Guru, their representatives don't engage at all, and most of complaints end up "resolved" based on the words said by BC.game to CG or third party trying to mediate (holydarkness), so at the end newbies like me don't stand a chance of getting resolution, because their "representative" is word from God.

Why would (for example) Casino guru care about player while they're raking affiliate money from BC game? It is in their interest to keep BCG's trust high enough for people to sign up. Although AskGamblers is BCG affiliate as well, it seems they're trying to do a bit more in regards to transparency. rating them 2.3, but I'm afraid that majority of complaints end up in trash bin because at the end of the day, BC game is trusted platform and players are "guilty until proven otherwise" by default. None of those platforms even question their shady tactics, because players like me mostly end up accepting the fact they were scammed and do nothing to inform others. After all, it's our words against "reputable" platform.

I don't blame other victims, but on the other hand I personally won't stop fighting for what's rightfully mine, even if it includes decade-long fight. And I won't stop until I receive what's rightfully mine. My legal actions forced them out of Curacao and United Kingdom, and this is just a start. I can safely say that United States is going to be their next, and by far the biggest doom, as they thought that they can get away with advertising in US market but blocking US traffic is enough. And of course, Belize and Cyprus will be next two court proceedings against them. Anjouan licensing might lack of regulations, but that license has been assigned to entity outside of Anjouan, and I'm coming for it.

Sorry for way too much off-topic, anger in me just raises to the surface whenever I see scammers, and by far BCG is one of the biggest out there...

I'm of them being favored. They'd have a lot of resources to protect their image with platforms and people. There's not a lot of hope in their operation genuinely being exposed and scrutinized as anything that makes it to the public surface mostly gets resolved.

I made a small amount of effort to test the water as to whether the community cared about this parasite entity. The community doesn't. They care more about getting paid. When the discussion arises about the clearly corrupt way of operating it is countered unreasonably to the point where third party readers are scared to reply (and in worse cases like mine, left negative trust and called a charlatan), or end up being ignored.

While you shouldn't stop to fight for what is yours, don't let it take away from your life, and remember that corruption in the world runs much deeper than bc.game. While they are a large point of corruption in general, it goes further (who provides their license, who lets them keep it, why the gambling regulator doesn't take a lot of action, are all valid questions about corruption that is bigger than bc.game).

Unfortunately, my life and this case is somewhat related, so backing off is not an option right now. As for the second part, you're right. And although my target is getting my legitimate winnings, I'm also being contacted through SBGOK (which is non-profit helping players) from various regulatory bodies to explain my case, and people helping my case giving them deeper insights on how these predators operate. There are some success stories, some failures, but mostly it ends up countries closing doors for Curacao, and pretty soon Anjouan licensing.

For example, BCgame claimed that they were never aware of $5m fines in Spain or 400k e (or similar) in Netherlands, while both regulators shown clear proofs that they have tried to get in touch with BCgame to stop serving those markets and notified them about the fines imposed. Some of this is public, some is based on the testimony from BCgame bankruptcy hearing, but all in all, it proves a point.

People might not like me for coming out to speak for myself and many others who decided to give up, or even discredit me with my awful history, but so far all the facts provided and some of speculations point to the same direction - BCgame is not the entity to have faith in, no matter who's advertising them.

[JollyGood]

I am glad to see you are active in this thread. You did not create it and then abandon it, you are a full participant posting regularly. I hope that continues because you will be in a position to provide updates as soon as matters develop.

As for BC Game blaming outdated laws for their bankruptcy, they should have settled the matter before it go to the judgement stage and now they are facing the consequences of their conduct. If you were not the only claimant, how many were there in total?

Understandably, if they were 100% sure they were innocent, they should've taken legal path to fighting claims in court, which would've cost them nothing, other than depositing amount of claims (which was $2.X m as I was not the only claimant, but the only one publicly talking) and providing banknote guarantee that they're solvent and could settle in case they lose in court. They didn't, and instead went to blame outdated laws of Curacao for them being declared bankrupt and just evading actual laws from the country they held their business with.

And you are on point - settling with me or any other player (except one, which from day 1 they settled, lowest amount in case) would mean that they've made mistake, but unfortunately that's going to cost them 10x more. I have no intention of backing off, legally and publicly. It appears that Bloomberg is also investigating Curacao gambling and thanks to SBGOK, our story will (probably) be published there as well.

[gh0573d]

I am glad to see you are active in this thread. You did not create it and then abandon it, you are a full participant posting regularly. I hope that continues because you will be in a position to provide updates as soon as matters develop.

As for BC Game blaming outdated laws for their bankruptcy, they should have settled the matter before it go to the judgement stage and now they are facing the consequences of their conduct. If you were not the only claimant, how many were there in total?

Understandably, if they were 100% sure they were innocent, they should've taken legal path to fighting claims in court, which would've cost them nothing, other than depositing amount of claims (which was $2.X m as I was not the only claimant, but the only one publicly talking) and providing banknote guarantee that they're solvent and could settle in case they lose in court. They didn't, and instead went to blame outdated laws of Curacao for them being declared bankrupt and just evading actual laws from the country they held their business with.

And you are on point - settling with me or any other player (except one, which from day 1 they settled, lowest amount in case) would mean that they've made mistake, but unfortunately that's going to cost them 10x more. I have no intention of backing off, legally and publicly. It appears that Bloomberg is also investigating Curacao gambling and thanks to SBGOK, our story will (probably) be published there as well.

4 players in total: Turkey, Costa Rica, Netherlands and (me)Indonesia.

amounts in total somewhere around $2.2m (never counted tbh)

[JollyGood]

That raises the question about what on earth were BC Game doing by not paying out and then having to face a group action in court against them. That sort of conduct seems to be mismanagement by their team on an epic scale.

4 players in total: Turkey, Costa Rica, Netherlands and (me)Indonesia.

amounts in total somewhere around $2.2m (never counted tbh)

[gh0573d]

That raises the question about what on earth were BC Game doing by not paying out and then having to face a group action in court against them. That sort of conduct seems to be mismanagement by their team on an epic scale.

4 players in total: Turkey, Costa Rica, Netherlands and (me)Indonesia.

amounts in total somewhere around $2.2m (never counted tbh)

Actually, if I am reading everything correctly, BCgame might just provided fabricated evidence to holydarkness (this is only my speculation based on his wording after meeting with his contact).

Okay.

35865086 is the account I used.
35733412 (considering they provided this one and had $0 wager before being hidden) is the conflicting account.
37958301 is third and unknown account to me, which they provided as evidence back in documents (as you have seen).

I will continue claiming I did nothing to abuse their system willingly, and we can just circle around it tbh.

Considering they have not unlocked the account, you already have their decision so feel free to post what you found (if you have screens captured) do that as well.

As said many times, I have never created another account with intent to abuse their system nor I used it.

Please note that above statement regarding UIDs is based on my speculation, and limited that I have been given, as I never actually seen any information saying otherwise.

edit: quoting your previous post with image, my findings were based off of it and off of BCgame's statement:

OP, kindly make a clear and concise statement here in public where you grant me access to see the data that BC share with Curacao court, specifically this image depicted below, and please be quick, I am currently sitting with that contact I've been chasing for weeks, they need your consent before letting me see the image:

being the image is blurry, I could've distinctly see that the 357 uid is the conflicting account.

Okay, as it turned out, I do need to be more specific. And since we're at it, let's be very very specific. In regards to 35733412:

1. How long do you use it before you realize it's a different account?
2. How much do you deposited and played?
3. IIRC, you mentioned you have three devices, and you access your account from the office issued phone, infinix? Is this the phone used to create and access 35733412?
4. Kindly retell us the story here, but this time with UID, so we can understand which one is what, if you don't mind?

Okay, so here's an explanation. I created one account with bc.game. Logged me out while I was capturing KYC documents (because I normally don't play before completing KYC for reasons similar to this one). When I tried to log in into the account, I've used Google Sign On button to log in, which automatically created another one. Keep in mind that first one was never used. At some point I've uploaded documents and got verified. Started deposits and playing.

When I scored big, my account was initially "withdrawal frozen" state, which means I could play (I did not). Live chat requested from me to provide KYC documents yet again even though I was verified and gave me Sumsub link, which I followed and tried uploading documents, it said "Information was already being used to verify another account" or something like that [...]
This is the only account so far I know which has not been used at any point. My MO is never play on any casino prior doing KYC.


edit: keep in mind that before account going frozen and after kyc i had successful withdrawals

1. Never used it. Even the blurry image slightly shows that there is $0 wager on that account. As I said, I am assuming that is the conflicting account (created with same email address).
2. On which one? I believe I've already told my total deposit/withdrawals on BCGame for my account. For the conflicting account, $0 deposited, $0 wagereted
3. I can't tell from which I registered my account, as I said at the time I had multiple phones. At some point, I might've used all three.
4. Sorry, but telling my story all over again doesn't do nothing. I've told it like 10 times already and I am pretty damn sure I never used that account.

Furthermore, they also accused me of self-referral, which to this date was never even addressed, let alone proven. The only way I could've self-refer me would be doing exactly what happened to me.

edit: had to say, this is going to be really interesting discussion as it seems. Also, would you mind telling me UID of fourth account as well? You already have decision made, so I'd appreciate to lay everything out to me and everyone else.

edit #2:: It appears that you have been provided with the evidence of mentioned conflicting account being used to play on site, and based on the screenshot they provided for their court defense, it was never used. Although barely seen, if you take a closer look at circled items on the image:

https://imgur.com/a/Yj69flq

User id: I can see starting 357 and 412
Wager (7 days) $0
Deposit total: $0
Net profit: $0

I would highly advise you to post what you've been told/shown as it appears we're going to prove what I've been telling all along.

[gh0573d]

More articles on BC.game:

https://fintelegram.com/unmasking-the-iga-group-the-maltese-power-brokers-behind-the-global-bc-game-and-rabidi-gambling-scandals/
https://fintelegram.com/%f0%9f%94%b4exposed-leicester-citys-silent-partnership-with-bc-games-offshore-crime-syndicate-whos-bankrolling-the-foxes%f0%9f%94%b4/
https://next.io/news/regulation/white-label-giant-premier-league-sponsors-exits-gb/

[alani123]

This just goes to show that institutions mean little to nothing. Capitalism has created a landscape online and with real life extensions where everything can be bought with money. Curacao will sell you a casino license for online operations that even they don't accept for their own citizens. And yet Curacao is a sovereign entity and not just a fabricated island.

When Curacao fails to deliver what the rich entities want from them, they just avoid any enforcement and jump to the next license.

This can even happen in more "serious" countries. When the enforcement in Curacao is reaching levels of ridiculousness that become funny, other countries just allow corruption at a high degree. For example, as most casinos have their legal address in Cyprus, search "Cyprus Papers" and you'll see why. It even happens in the "good" EU countries.

[JollyGood]

I know you stated it was your speculation, do you have any update with regards to this? If they have done something that calls the name of their business into disrepute it should be highlighted and should be discussed too.

Actually, if I am reading everything correctly, BCgame might just provided fabricated evidence to holydarkness (this is only my speculation based on his wording after meeting with his contact).

[gh0573d]

I know you stated it was your speculation, do you have any update with regards to this? If they have done something that calls the name of their business into disrepute it should be highlighted and should be discussed too.

Actually, if I am reading everything correctly, BCgame might just provided fabricated evidence to holydarkness (this is only my speculation based on his wording after meeting with his contact).

Still just a speculation.

holy stated in one of his posts that it appears that what he seen from his contact was geniune/matching info. Still waiting for something concrete.

[holydarkness]

I know you stated it was your speculation, do you have any update with regards to this? If they have done something that calls the name of their business into disrepute it should be highlighted and should be discussed too.

Actually, if I am reading everything correctly, BCgame might just provided fabricated evidence to holydarkness (this is only my speculation based on his wording after meeting with his contact).

Still just a speculation.

holy stated in one of his posts that it appears that what he seen from his contact was geniune/matching info. Still waiting for something concrete.

[I'm stepping off from my spectator chair and jump in, as my statement is kinda... needed here, I guess?]

Should be genuine.

I tried to pull some kind of double-blind-study [for a lack of better terms] where both BC and OP didn't know what I'm looking for. BC provided me with evidences that I later asked OP to retrace from his own side, and the narrative that OP told matched the evidence BC gave. They both shouldn't know what I'm looking for or why I'm asking specific things, and as both side give a matching chronology, I think it's safe to assume that the evidence BC gave to me is the same that BC gave to CG, and they're not tampered in a sense that they manipulate the elements to be in their favor.

[JiiBs]

Happy to wait, but I don't think they'll ever engage in any discussion transparently, as proven.

I'm waiting for a year already so all I have is time

This speaks very much of a broken trust but then, I would say you shouldn’t have the impression that by some means, they would treat you in the same way they would treat someone they’ve always engaged with in solving some of these issues. It’s true you are a customer and deserves a far better treatment in handling complaints but, the case is a little different as the complainant and when they feel they’ve said just enough to have you reconsider your stands and accept guilt.
That’s where forum users come in to push for a more clear version of what could really be at play and how to make obvious every fact to the letter. Have a little faith in the process you’ve begun to lead to a resolution rather than just having to flag.

It’s a little sketchy though to say an evidence provided is manipulated, how do they verify such I wonder!

[gh0573d]

Happy to wait, but I don't think they'll ever engage in any discussion transparently, as proven.

I'm waiting for a year already so all I have is time

This speaks very much of a broken trust but then, I would say you shouldn’t have the impression that by some means, they would treat you in the same way they would treat someone they’ve always engaged with in solving some of these issues. It’s true you are a customer and deserves a far better treatment in handling complaints but, the case is a little different as the complainant and when they feel they’ve said just enough to have you reconsider your stands and accept guilt.
That’s where forum users come in to push for a more clear version of what could really be at play and how to make obvious every fact to the letter. Have a little faith in the process you’ve begun to lead to a resolution rather than just having to flag.

It’s a little sketchy though to say an evidence provided is manipulated, how do they verify such I wonder!

Although this has little to do with my case, but much more broader view of BCG actions, I'd be happy to engage in this conversation:

Reason why I have little faith in the process is because before coming here I've: tried reaching them out directly initially to get the issue resolved, only to get same old response (You've breached this that and that ToS) with zero evidence, let alone any due diligence done. After that, I tried to use social media to get their attention and actually do something in my case, only to receive same responses. Went legal pathway, got a claim validation by their bankruptcy trustee, only not to be able to get the money, as they have already fled the Curacao and went for another license.

I do believe that there's more information being shared now than in any of my previous attempts to get anything, but the problem with all of that, I am seeing zero information that are actually tangible to my case.

I did absolutely NOTHING to intentionally break their Terms or put my account and winnings into risk of being taken away, but I cannot get resolution because whenever I think I'm close to getting it, they bail out.

Placing accusation here is the last resort before moving further with my legal case: pursuing further in Curacao while simultaneously filing lawsuits in Belize, Cyprus and Comoros, if no resolution is given to me.

And please, tell me, do you believe that having to fight for your money in 4 different countries is normal? Lets look at Stake or Gamdom for example: both of them continue to operate in Curacao, and as far as I know, they either fight the claims in court, or they reach out to the lawyer (who was also representing me) to settle.

If BC.game were sure I did something to "abuse" their system, why didn't they fight back in court? Or why haven't they provided any evidence to me that I did something like that INTENTIONALLY? I already pointed out in my Accusation thread several times, if at any time I was given any evidence proving that I did something intentionally, I would've happily thrown the towel and accept their decision. But that never happened. And looking at other old threads from 2024, it appears that this was their behavior by default back then, at the same time I was having issues.

I started playing online casinos at the 2023/24 and so far I have accounts on most of them with successful history and zero issues. Only BC.game, out all of them, is having problem with me. Is that because I won close to $1.5m? Or is it because I actually broke their Terms, but not willingly and only because there was and still is an issue with their sign-in platform? I really don't know. But I'm not stopping in my fight unless I get winnings I legitimately acquired.

[JollyGood]

If it is safe to assume the evidence BC Game provided you was the same as they sent to CasinoGuru and in all probability they have not been tampered with, what are your opinions on the matter raised in the OP? If you cannot answer right now because you might be in conversation with BC Game it is understandable but sooner or later the OP will hopefully want closure.

I think it's safe to assume that the evidence BC gave to me is the same that BC gave to CG, and they're not tampered in a sense that they manipulate the elements to be in their favor.

[holydarkness]

If it is safe to assume the evidence BC Game provided you was the same as they sent to CasinoGuru and in all probability they have not been tampered with, what are your opinions on the matter raised in the OP? If you cannot answer right now because you might be in conversation with BC Game it is understandable but sooner or later the OP will hopefully want closure.

I think it's safe to assume that the evidence BC gave to me is the same that BC gave to CG, and they're not tampered in a sense that they manipulate the elements to be in their favor.

My opinion on this topic? I can't say yet, as this thread is designed by OP to address the matters surrounding BC globally. I am yet to touch any aspect pointed in this thread as I'm currently chasing OP's other thread that focused on and limited to his own case with BC. I think I'm very close with the bottom of that thread, just waiting for some posts and reply from both sides as I'm currently doing another double-blind test on them.

I'll move to this thread once I managed to deliver my final findings on the other thread.

[BenCodie]

If it is safe to assume the evidence BC Game provided you was the same as they sent to CasinoGuru and in all probability they have not been tampered with, what are your opinions on the matter raised in the OP? If you cannot answer right now because you might be in conversation with BC Game it is understandable but sooner or later the OP will hopefully want closure.

I think it's safe to assume that the evidence BC gave to me is the same that BC gave to CG, and they're not tampered in a sense that they manipulate the elements to be in their favor.

My opinion on this topic? I can't say yet, as this thread is designed by OP to address the matters surrounding BC globally. I am yet to touch any aspect pointed in this thread as I'm currently chasing OP's other thread that focused on and limited to his own case with BC. I think I'm very close with the bottom of that thread, just waiting for some posts and reply from both sides as I'm currently doing another double-blind test on them.

I'll move to this thread once I managed to deliver my final findings on the other thread.

You can't say because you are doing their public relations for them.

The unbiased opinion that bc.game is a fraudulent casino that is using sophisticated legal tactics to scam unsuspecting players and to escape any legal prosecution, and are taking advantage of players who do not create a scam accusation thread in this forum, is growing. BC.game's time is limited.

I tried to tell you that you are wrapped up in helping a fraudulent casino and yet you continue to be a "free" PR rep for them. Though, I still maintain my opinion that you receive some for of favoring or compensation for work, considering you refuse to explicitly deny that you benefit in any way whatsoever for acting on their behalf as a PR rep. I can't possibly believe that someone who is dealing with so many cases for free (apparently) doesn't stop and think "Oh gee, I what about all the people who aren't making threads about their accounts being frozen?" or "Am I protecting the reputation of criminals/scammers?". Have you ever stopped and thought that, and if so, what were your thoughts and actions after that?

[JollyGood]

I think the vast majority that have an interest in these threads would probably disagree with your comments about the public relations. In the end, if a member does not agree with a point of view does not necessarily mean they are corrupt. I think these types of allegations do not help the situation especially when someone is claiming they were a victim of a scam.

My opinion on this topic? I can't say yet, as this thread is designed by OP to address the matters surrounding BC globally. I am yet to touch any aspect pointed in this thread as I'm currently chasing OP's other thread that focused on and limited to his own case with BC. I think I'm very close with the bottom of that thread, just waiting for some posts and reply from both sides as I'm currently doing another double-blind test on them.

I'll move to this thread once I managed to deliver my final findings on the other thread.

You can't say because you are doing their public relations for them.

The unbiased opinion that bc.game is a fraudulent casino that is using sophisticated legal tactics to scam unsuspecting players and to escape any legal prosecution, and are taking advantage of players who do not create a scam accusation thread in this forum, is growing. BC.game's time is limited.

I tried to tell you that you are wrapped up in helping a fraudulent casino and yet you continue to be a "free" PR rep for them. Though, I still maintain my opinion that you receive some for of favoring or compensation for work, considering you refuse to explicitly deny that you benefit in any way whatsoever for acting on their behalf as a PR rep. I can't possibly believe that someone who is dealing with so many cases for free (apparently) doesn't stop and think "Oh gee, I what about all the people who aren't making threads about their accounts being frozen?" or "Am I protecting the reputation of criminals/scammers?". Have you ever stopped and thought that, and if so, what were your thoughts and actions after that?