Bitcoin near all time high but altcoins not moving, why?

[dumpsterhawk]

@OP, what Frankolala said is true, you don't hold altcoins for long term. He is not the only one to say it, it has been an advice from a lot of old investors on this forum who have already had their own ugly experience with altcoin investment. If I was smart enough to sell some of the old altcoins I bought before now, I would not be in lose but the truth is that, I also lost some money in shitcoins, I had the opportunity to sell but I wanted more profit and now some of the projects are long dead and abandoned by their developers.

Depends what you mean for long term. I held one for over 12 months that did nothing then all of sudden did 40x return in 3 months.

Altcoins have not done anything really now for 5 months since the December highs, the next pump they have I will sell quite a lot , just have to stay patient.

You must realize that you just got lucky, that is it. There are thousands of altcoins that will never recover their old ATHs and have died out, and even fewer will reach new a new ATH.

[JamesDaniel90]

@OP, what Frankolala said is true, you don't hold altcoins for long term. He is not the only one to say it, it has been an advice from a lot of old investors on this forum who have already had their own ugly experience with altcoin investment. If I was smart enough to sell some of the old altcoins I bought before now, I would not be in lose but the truth is that, I also lost some money in shitcoins, I had the opportunity to sell but I wanted more profit and now some of the projects are long dead and abandoned by their developers.

Depends what you mean for long term. I held one for over 12 months that did nothing then all of sudden did 40x return in 3 months.

Altcoins have not done anything really now for 5 months since the December highs, the next pump they have I will sell quite a lot , just have to stay patient.

You must realize that you just got lucky, that is it. There are thousands of altcoins that will never recover their old ATHs and have died out, and even fewer will reach new a new ATH.

My point is though that I created my own luck by holding for many months and not completely selling too early.

If you sell for a 3 or 4x , that’s still good return sure but never sell completely , always leave something incase you do see a 40x or more like my example above.

Just as an example, from December 2020 to November 2021 , Solana did a 190x return.

I’m not saying all altcoins will do this, but a few will and you only need to be holding one of them.

[Abiky]

While I do agree with most of your post, I disagree with retail investors not being enough to revive the altcoin season. The issue is not that the efforts are not able to revive the altcoin season, the issue is that retail is not really here anymore. When you compare the wider situation around the bull run of the last cycle and the situation now, it could not be any different. People were at home, they received free money, crypto was pumping and it was in the news a lot which retail usually didn't read as much or respond to. A lot of retail got burned on many things from layer 1 altcoins to NFTs and lending platforms. Many of them will never come back. As with new retail, there currently is little interest. You can analyze the google trends to evaluate this every time. Will retail be back to ignite a new altcoin season? It is hard to say.

Retail investors lost interest because the crypto industry has focused on speculation rather than utility. The emergence of "meme" coins and their rising popularity, has stifled innovation in the crypto space. Now the vast majority of crypto projects are driven by hype. Only a small few are focused on bringing real use cases to the world. Unless developers come up with something new and exciting that will blow investors' minds away, don't expect altcoins to gain traction anytime soon. Or at least, retain high market prices for long.

Like you've said, it's hard to say when retail investors will make a comeback. The crypto market is unpredictable, so anything can happen. Better be prepared for the next "pump" before it's too late.

I think you are underestimating the potential. You could make 10 to 100 times your investment in a day during the peak of the altcoin season.

Yes, I know. That's why I said we should buy and hold BTC to sell during the "pump". Then, we can buy more alts. Once altcoin season begins, you'll be able to make a huge ROI. Many are waiting for the SEC to give the upper hand for altcoin spot ETFs to begin trading. Mainly ETFs for XRP, SOL, and LTC. Once these are approved, other altcoins will follow suit. Just be patient to see great results in your investment.

[tygeade]

@OP, what Frankolala said is true, you don't hold altcoins for long term. He is not the only one to say it, it has been an advice from a lot of old investors on this forum who have already had their own ugly experience with altcoin investment. If I was smart enough to sell some of the old altcoins I bought before now, I would not be in lose but the truth is that, I also lost some money in shitcoins, I had the opportunity to sell but I wanted more profit and now some of the projects are long dead and abandoned by their developers.

This is based on which alt we are talking about. Yes, if you are holding some shitcoin, some memecoin of the month type of thing, then yeah it is not smart to keep it long term and you should try to avoid it and sell as quickly as possible, even if you make a single dollar profit, just get out.

However, if you are holding something like ETH, or SOL, or whatever other bigger and known trusted coins then you are going to make some good income from it without a problem. If you do that, then you are going to hold it for ten years and you are not going to have a trouble. Even Litecoin, which was second once, and outside of top 20 now, is still profitable if you held it long enough. So, it depends on which altcoin we were talking about.

[Dogedegen]

Retail investors lost interest because the crypto industry has focused on speculation rather than utility. The emergence of "meme" coins and their rising popularity, has stifled innovation in the crypto space. Now the vast majority of crypto projects are driven by hype. Only a small few are focused on bringing real use cases to the world. Unless developers come up with something new and exciting that will blow investors' minds away, don't expect altcoins to gain traction anytime soon. Or at least, retain high market prices for long.

Like you've said, it's hard to say when retail investors will make a comeback. The crypto market is unpredictable, so anything can happen. Better be prepared for the next "pump" before it's too late.

I would not blame meme coins for this, they arrived to the game very late anyway. The blame originates from altcoin projects in general. Do you remember how Vitalik sold the world that smart contracts are a revolution that will change the whole world? Guess what, they aren't and they didn't do a single thing for the existing world. It just created a new industry where smart contracts are useful, but as far as utility in the real world is concerned they are almost useless. Lies after lies for the sake of hyping non existing utility and greed.

Yes, I know. That's why I said we should buy and hold BTC to sell during the "pump". Then, we can buy more alts. Once altcoin season begins, you'll be able to make a huge ROI. Many are waiting for the SEC to give the upper hand for altcoin spot ETFs to begin trading. Mainly ETFs for XRP, SOL, and LTC. Once these are approved, other altcoins will follow suit. Just be patient to see great results in your investment.

You think that the approval of a few altcoin ETFs will kick start the whole altcoin season?

[Josefjix]

I’m not saying all altcoins will do this, but a few will and you only need to be holding one of them.

If you are intending on holding altcoin then you are going to be considering to pick up some blockchain based coins, layer1 and layer2 problem solvers especially the ones listed on major centralized exchange, these are the ones that correlate with bitcoin movement and at least have the tendency to hitting ATH even if the movement is slow at this moment.
Im saying this because they have use cases and the demand in the industry is there too for the price to increase over time. 

[Cointxz]

Why do we think altcoins are not moving and when do we think they will finally go on a run again?

You should look on Bitcoin dominance to determine the reason for that. Bitcoin dominance is continuously rising together with the Bitcoin price while altcoin is plummeting which means the majority is selling altcoins to but Bitcoin that’s why Altcoins never pump like Bitcoin.

Altcoin will pump if Bitcoin dominance started to declined since it means that people is already starting to shift their investment on altcoins.

Right now, Only Bitcoin showing interest globally due to country and big group buying it as investment.

[hyudien]

I’m not saying all altcoins will do this, but a few will and you only need to be holding one of them.

If you are intending on holding altcoin then you are going to be considering to pick up some blockchain based coins, layer1 and layer2 problem solvers especially the ones listed on major centralized exchange, these are the ones that correlate with bitcoin movement and at least have the tendency to hitting ATH even if the movement is slow at this moment.
Im saying this because they have use cases and the demand in the industry is there too for the price to increase over time. 

Maybe I will also add a little bit where RWA and AI based coins also need attention but need to be narrowed down because currently there are quite a lot of them so that RWA and AI sentiment still have a role in getting a large flow of funding from big investors.

[Abiky]

You should look on Bitcoin dominance to determine the reason for that. Bitcoin dominance is continuously rising together with the Bitcoin price while altcoin is plummeting which means the majority is selling altcoins to but Bitcoin that’s why Altcoins never pump like Bitcoin.

Altcoin will pump if Bitcoin dominance started to declined since it means that people is already starting to shift their investment on altcoins.

Right now, Only Bitcoin showing interest globally due to country and big group buying it as investment.

Exactly. Bitcoin is gaining momentum as a result of governments and institutional investment companies' mass accumulation of the circulating supply. They're already considering it as the "next digital Gold". Altcoins are being left behind in the dust because they provide no real value (use cases) to the world. They're mostly speculative, driven only by hype. Take a look at "meme" coins and see for yourself. It's a "miracle" that Ethereum has its own spot ETF. Especially when it's inflationary by design and less-decentralized than Bitcoin.

There are rumors that Solana, XRP, and LTC will get their own spot ETFs. But nothing has been confirmed yet. Even if these coins get their own spot ETFs, that doesn't mean they'll "pump" all the way to the moon. Everything will depend if institutional investors show interest in such coins. Without massive inflows of capital, altcoins would be nothing but doomed. It's hard to predict when the next altcoin season will begin. We'd just need to "hodl" patiently until prices start moving into the right direction.

[jaberwock]

If you are intending on holding altcoin then you are going to be considering to pick up some blockchain based coins, layer1 and layer2 problem solvers especially the ones listed on major centralized exchange, these are the ones that correlate with bitcoin movement and at least have the tendency to hitting ATH even if the movement is slow at this moment.
Im saying this because they have use cases and the demand in the industry is there too for the price to increase over time. 

Altcoins should usually not be held for very long, but still, if someone decides to do that, then I totally agree with you that they should do their research and analyze the market before they make any decision, so that they can choose the best altcoins in the market.

So many people buy useless crap and meme coins, and then complain that they are losing money. If you are running behind quick profits or trying to become rich overnight through cryptocurrencies, you might end up losing money instead of getting anything because you can't invest blindly in this market, otherwise, you are going to face losses only without any gains at all.

Good projects tend to grow over time as you said, even if they don't seem to be moving much at the moment. Market sentiments keep changing, and that will change the direction of the market as a whole.

[sabinevolker]

I think a lot of good points have been made here, especially around Bitcoin dominance and how it reflects broader investor behavior. When BTC is surging and dominance is rising, it’s a clear sign that capital is consolidating into what’s seen as the “safe” bet — particularly as institutional and sovereign interest grows. It's not that altcoins have no potential, but right now the narrative and capital are heavily skewed toward Bitcoin.

That said, it’s too simplistic to say that all altcoins are trash or purely speculative. There are some solid layer-1 and layer-2 projects solving real problems, and if you zoom out, many of them tend to gain momentum after Bitcoin cools off. Timing and rotation matter.

I agree with those saying it’s about use case and staying power. Projects with real utility, developer traction, and strong communities can recover and outperform — but only if you’ve done your homework and are patient. Altseason isn’t dead, it's just on pause. Right now it’s a BTC-dominant cycle. But those cycles shift — they always have.

So yeah, hodl smart, not blind.

[Barikui1]

When Bitcoin first hit $106k back in December, my portfolio was +200% due to altcoins pumping with it yet with Bitcoin at $106k now, my portfolio is only +38% due to altcoins lagging behind.

Why do we think altcoins are not moving and when do we think they will finally go on a run again?

This is one of the major reason am always skeptical about alt and meme coin because they hardly recovers back to it previous high when they fell, because they mostly falls more than they rise, so seeing things like this doesn't surprise me anymore, that's why I prefer holding like 95% of my portfolio in Bitcoin then I can risk the remaining 5% on alt or meme coin, so that if things doesn't goes as planned, I wouldn't be that bothered.

Bitcoin almost hit all time high a few hours ago yet altcoins are hardly moving and I am just wondering why?

As for this, well it's very clear that the Bitcoin dominance over alt and meme coin is still very huge that's why most shitty alt and meme coin are still down, and are not responding to the upward movement of Bitcoin, but once Bitcoin drop in value, they drop even further, this alone illustrate how shitty alt and meme are.

[FortuneFollower]

If you are intending on holding altcoin then you are going to be considering to pick up some blockchain based coins, layer1 and layer2 problem solvers especially the ones listed on major centralized exchange, these are the ones that correlate with bitcoin movement and at least have the tendency to hitting ATH even if the movement is slow at this moment.
Im saying this because they have use cases and the demand in the industry is there too for the price to increase over time. 

Altcoins should usually not be held for very long, but still, if someone decides to do that, then I totally agree with you that they should do their research and analyze the market before they make any decision, so that they can choose the best altcoins in the market.

So many people buy useless crap and meme coins, and then complain that they are losing money. If you are running behind quick profits or trying to become rich overnight through cryptocurrencies, you might end up losing money instead of getting anything because you can't invest blindly in this market, otherwise, you are going to face losses only without any gains at all.

Good projects tend to grow over time as you said, even if they don't seem to be moving much at the moment. Market sentiments keep changing, and that will change the direction of the market as a whole.

Better to hold big caps mostly and be in profit for it in the long run, than praying that it would all work out as intended with no real reasons behind it, only faith or good analysis (which can fail too).

[Webetcoins]

Yeah it's strange, I mean ETH rallied a bit but other alts are mostly stagnant. I had good hopes from TRX this bull run but while it made some progress it's still not where I expected it to be. Was hoping for at least 60-70 cents range by now. XRP has done well but it was more because of the legal restrictions removed than anything else. DOGE was all about Elon who has stopped hyping it up. Let's see how it goes but not looking great for alts and certainly not good for memes.

More preciously, altcoin season do not last for longer duration unlike how bitcoin market do lasts for around 10 to 11 months usually. I mean to say, altcoin season may arrive at any time within this year and ETH and all major coins may test a new high at any time. This is just a speculation based on my what I observed in last 2 market cycle of bitcoin market.

[Dave1]

Yeah it's strange, I mean ETH rallied a bit but other alts are mostly stagnant. I had good hopes from TRX this bull run but while it made some progress it's still not where I expected it to be. Was hoping for at least 60-70 cents range by now. XRP has done well but it was more because of the legal restrictions removed than anything else. DOGE was all about Elon who has stopped hyping it up. Let's see how it goes but not looking great for alts and certainly not good for memes.

More preciously, altcoin season do not last for longer duration unlike how bitcoin market do lasts for around 10 to 11 months usually. I mean to say, altcoin season may arrive at any time within this year and ETH and all major coins may test a new high at any time. This is just a speculation based on my what I observed in last 2 market cycle of bitcoin market.

It's not strange since ETH has chance a lot, and it's more centralized than ever, and probably that is the reason why most of us didn't invest or just swipe out because we don't want ETH to be like that.

But it's too late now, the people behind made their bold decision years ago and so ETH is suffering the consequences. And then as what others said, there are a lot of competitions now that's why ETH is left behind and it's very hard to see them making a good run in this cycle and they might not even reaches new all time high for the first time in a given cycle.

[henry_of_skalitz]

Yeah it's strange, I mean ETH rallied a bit but other alts are mostly stagnant. I had good hopes from TRX this bull run but while it made some progress it's still not where I expected it to be. Was hoping for at least 60-70 cents range by now. XRP has done well but it was more because of the legal restrictions removed than anything else. DOGE was all about Elon who has stopped hyping it up. Let's see how it goes but not looking great for alts and certainly not good for memes.

More preciously, altcoin season do not last for longer duration unlike how bitcoin market do lasts for around 10 to 11 months usually. I mean to say, altcoin season may arrive at any time within this year and ETH and all major coins may test a new high at any time. This is just a speculation based on my what I observed in last 2 market cycle of bitcoin market.

It's not strange since ETH has chance a lot, and it's more centralized than ever, and probably that is the reason why most of us didn't invest or just swipe out because we don't want ETH to be like that.

But it's too late now, the people behind made their bold decision years ago and so ETH is suffering the consequences. And then as what others said, there are a lot of competitions now that's why ETH is left behind and it's very hard to see them making a good run in this cycle and they might not even reaches new all time high for the first time in a given cycle.

There are other fish in the pond these days, and ETH has lots of things to do and witness for themselves to change how the investors see it now.

Even though there are news about new funds going into ETH ETFs, I hear more criticism / fud about it for a looong while.

And more good things about SOL..