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Be cautious of newly created services or fake no-KYC exchanges and swap services that pretend to be legitimate but actually they are just resellers!
Those services are indeed very common. They create a swap platform where you can swap coins, but they use Binance, OKX, etc in the backend. With all the AML stuff of those CEX. In the end, your coins might get frozen and they can demand KYC and take your funds hostage. Correct! Watch out for these resellers or you might end up with your money frozen. They pretend to be real “ no KYC, no AML” services, but it’s all fake. Their rate (%2,3) sometimes look promising, which is why many people fall for the scam.
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Be cautious of newly created services or fake no-KYC exchanges and swap services that pretend to be legitimate but actually they are just resellers!
Passing your crypto to another platform like WhiteBIT etc. If your funds get flagged or frozen, these resellers won’t be able to help you resolve the issue.
Further, don’t fall for their low-rate scams this is a common tactic they use.
Thanks for this information, and yep there can be many fake no kyc exchanges and swaps and later our money can get stuck there and we can have problems. The biggest is can be their demand for documents and this ends up freezing of valuable assets, happened with many exchanges before. To be honest, this is my first time seeing this exchange, sorry but I was not very active in this section before, I would love to test this swap as well sometime. By the way, do you have any tips on how we can find out the truth about such exchanges, like if they are resellers, or they are using this tactic to gain funds etc. but in reality they are wrong and passing crypto to other platforms etc.
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August 21, 2025, 05:44:28 PM Last edit: August 21, 2025, 05:59:42 PM by Trêvoid |
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Be cautious of newly created services or fake no-KYC exchanges and swap services that pretend to be legitimate but actually they are just resellers!
Passing your crypto to another platform like WhiteBIT etc. If your funds get flagged or frozen, these resellers won’t be able to help you resolve the issue.
Further, don’t fall for their low-rate scams this is a common tactic they use.
Thanks for this information, and yep there can be many fake no kyc exchanges and swaps and later our money can get stuck there and we can have problems. The biggest is can be their demand for documents and this ends up freezing of valuable assets, happened with many exchanges before. To be honest, this is my first time seeing this exchange, sorry but I was not very active in this section before, I would love to test this swap as well sometime. By the way, do you have any tips on how we can find out the truth about such exchanges, like if they are resellers, or they are using this tactic to gain funds etc. but in reality they are wrong and passing crypto to other platforms etc. Hi, to understand this you need to have a subscription on blockchain investigation platforms and experience on track funds by explorers. Since they got no own liquidity, most of the exchange service is resellers and use third-party exchanges. Small note: the number of supported coins also gives you a sign that the site might be using the third-party exchanges API.
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Small note: the number of supported coins also gives you a sign that the site might be using the third-party exchanges API.
I agree, this is a good idea. Usually exchanges have some liquidity on some pairs, but when they are handling lots of pairs they need to get liquidity elsewhere. This is when the kyc problems begins, as third party usually do AML checks and that third party may block the funds
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Small note: the number of supported coins also gives you a sign that the site might be using the third-party exchanges API.
I agree, this is a good idea. Usually exchanges have some liquidity on some pairs, but when they are handling lots of pairs they need to get liquidity elsewhere. This is when the kyc problems begins, as third party usually do AML checks and that third party may block the funds Yes that is correct @bitmover I always do my best to warn everyone, since third-party exchange may freeze customer deposit and ask KYC + source of funds. We have seen many examples; [SCAM WARNING] Godex locked my coins ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5540023.msg65330395#msg65330395) [SCAM] go-go.exchange STOLE 11000 USDT ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5552339.0) and more...
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@Trêvoid You only initiate an exchange when you have the necessary liquidity to carry it out, correct?
This will ensure that you don't have to rely on third parties for liquidity, causing these types of problems.
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@Trêvoid You only initiate an exchange when you have the necessary liquidity to carry it out, correct?
This will ensure that you don't have to rely on third parties for liquidity, causing these types of problems.
Hi @joker_josue, Yes, we have our own reserves and do not rely on third-party exchanges. We also do not perform AML/KYC checks, never. A few days ago, when many exchanges and instant services (some a.k.a resellers) disabled Monero withdrawals and couldn’t deliver XMR, we were still able to process large-volume XMR swaps thanks to our own liquidity reserves. Over the past couple of days, we handled swaps exceeding 10 BTC. (If moderators want to verify, I’m happy to provide proof.) Regarding Monero delivery, we take extensive precautions. We always send random amounts and disassociate Monero TXOs multiple times through our own nodes to different wallets before sending from our final own node. While Monero is private, it’s not completely untraceable please note that careless usage or linking flagged TXOs can reduce anonymity. There are additional operational security measures users need to follow. We don’t just swap coins for our big clients we also assist them with good OpSec practices.
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Hi, to understand this you need to have a subscription on blockchain investigation platforms and experience on track funds by explorers. Since they got no own liquidity, most of the exchange service is resellers and use third-party exchanges.
Small note: the number of supported coins also gives you a sign that the site might be using the third-party exchanges API.
Thanks for the suggestion and it was very simple I mean if they will be send our funds to the exchanges then we can see that on the blockchain explorer but they will not be doing it in one tx they must be obfuscating the trail so I would not know right? That is why you said I had to get a subscription of investigation platforms? Because in order to find the trail we can use the free version as well. That last suggestion is very good, and if this is how the resellers are working then they might not have any funds at all but they can be providing exchange offers and reselling it. They should show their reserve like the team of exch was ready to show the por.
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Yes, we have our own reserves and do not rely on third-party exchanges. We also do not perform AML/KYC checks, never.
Good to know and congratulations on your service. I don't deal with coins other than BTC, but if I need to I'll talk to you. Are you thinking of making a website for your service, or are you just going to operate via this topic?
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Yes, we have our own reserves and do not rely on third-party exchanges. We also do not perform AML/KYC checks, never.
Good to know and congratulations on your service. I don't deal with coins other than BTC, but if I need to I'll talk to you. Are you thinking of making a website for your service, or are you just going to operate via this topic? Thank you @joker_josue If you need please let me know. Many users have asked me about the website, but for us, something else is more important, using operating on simpleX is a privacy solution for us ( in terms of preserving user IP address private) that's something really important. Even same thing said by eXch  Further, instead of its official "DEX" crap interfaces, browser wallets or some swap websites which might can log user details. We transparently offers this functionality ( in terms of preserving user IP address private, by using simpleX) we believe it will help a lot. Everybody is sick of installing random NodeJS crap on their PCs and prefer to trust a third party.I hope that answered your question.
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Yes, he replied, and I clearly understood the idea. It is very important to value privacy.  Are you just thinking about doing a swap, or are you eventually thinking about doing an exchange? Just a swap, right?
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Be cautious of newly created services or fake no-KYC exchanges and swap services that pretend to be legitimate but actually they are just resellers!
Passing your crypto to another platform like WhiteBIT etc. If your funds get flagged or frozen, these resellers won’t be able to help you resolve the issue.
Further, don’t fall for their low-rate scams this is a common tactic they use.
Best regards, — Trêvoid
Thanks,@Trêvoid for this piece of information.This information will help users of no-KYC services be to cautious.It's advisable to approach newly created platforms with skepticism, as their reviews might be fabricated. Some may even pay for fake reviews,so let's exercise caution and not blindly trust online testimonials. Once again thanks @Trêvoid.
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August 23, 2025, 10:58:31 AM Last edit: August 23, 2025, 11:14:28 AM by Trêvoid |
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Be cautious of newly created services or fake no-KYC exchanges and swap services that pretend to be legitimate but actually they are just resellers!
Passing your crypto to another platform like WhiteBIT etc. If your funds get flagged or frozen, these resellers won’t be able to help you resolve the issue.
Further, don’t fall for their low-rate scams this is a common tactic they use.
Best regards, — Trêvoid
Thanks,@Trêvoid for this piece of information.This information will help users of no-KYC services be to cautious.It's advisable to approach newly created platforms with skepticism, as their reviews might be fabricated. Some may even pay for fake reviews,so let's exercise caution and not blindly trust online testimonials. Once again thanks @Trêvoid. Welcome @Fiasem20, thanks for the comment. Another point I want to make is that some exchanges are not scammers, so I can not blame them outright. However, many of these platforms act as resellers for KYC compliant exchanges without clearly disclosing this fact. They are not being honest. Whitebit, Changenow, and FF have some of the most developed reseller networks, and most instant exchange services rely on their APIs. If these resellers claim to offer no-KYC and no-AML service that is misleading. They need to be transparent and users must stay vigilant. If your funds get flagged or frozen, these resellers won’t be able to assist you in resolving the issue. We’ve seen this happen repeatedly, and it’s frustrating to see users on BTCTalk falling victim to this kind of misleading services. ~~
Yes, he replied, and I clearly understood the idea. It is very important to value privacy.  Are you just thinking about doing a swap, or are you eventually thinking about doing an exchange? Just a swap, right? Yes, only multi-hop swaps, without KYC or AML, and without logging sensitive information.
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While many people here have discussed the danger of losing funds if a so-called “no-KYC” service secretly routes through centralized exchanges (which then freeze coins and demand KYC), there’s another equally serious risk that hasn’t been addressed in this thread. In the ANN, the operator explicitly states: You can exchange cryptocurrency with any AML % (Score)
This means the service openly accepts coins regardless of whether they are already flagged by blockchain analysis systems as stolen, hacked, or linked to illicit activity. But think about the implications: - If the service accepts “dirty” coins, those same coins don’t magically get cleaned. - The next customer could be handed those very tainted outputs in their swap. - You may unknowingly end up holding funds that are already blacklisted by your future counterparties. So even if your swap goes smoothly and you receive your funds, you could later discover that the assets are unspendable in practice because no merchant will accept them. In short: using a service that advertises “any AML score accepted” doesn’t risk your privacy, but it risks leaving you with toxic coins. It’s surprising this hasn’t been pointed out yet in the discussion, but it’s a fundamental reason why serious users should be extremely cautious.
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While many people here have discussed the danger of losing funds if a so-called “no-KYC” service secretly routes through centralized exchanges (which then freeze coins and demand KYC), there’s another equally serious risk that hasn’t been addressed in this thread. In the ANN, the operator explicitly states: You can exchange cryptocurrency with any AML % (Score)
This means the service openly accepts coins regardless of whether they are already flagged by blockchain analysis systems as stolen, hacked, or linked to illicit activity. But think about the implications: - If the service accepts “dirty” coins, those same coins don’t magically get cleaned. - The next customer could be handed those very tainted outputs in their swap. - You may unknowingly end up holding funds that are already blacklisted by your future counterparties. So even if your swap goes smoothly and you receive your funds, you could later discover that the assets are unspendable in practice because no merchant will accept them. In short: using a service that advertises “any AML score accepted” doesn’t risk your privacy, but it risks leaving you with toxic coins. It’s surprising this hasn’t been pointed out yet in the discussion, but it’s a fundamental reason why serious users should be extremely cautious. Thanks for the comment @internetional I understand your point, but let me clarify how we operate to avoid such risks. You need to know that we primarily deliver XMR to our clients. In rare cases, we may provide BTC or other cryptocurrencies, but these are always AML checked and carry a low AML risk. At no point we have ever stated that we deliver "toxic" coins, nor has any client ever reported issues with the coins we’ve delivered. Please also read our comment in here asked by @examplens ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5550922.msg65602565#msg65602565) As mentioned, our standard delivery is usually XMR. Lets say something happend and there is a problem, we accept refunds. Clients can return the coins, and we will reissue fresh, clean funds. For us, this process is simple and straightforward.
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You need to know that we primarily deliver XMR to our clients. In rare cases, we may provide BTC or other cryptocurrencies, but these are always AML checked and carry a low AML risk. At no point we have ever stated that we deliver "toxic" coins, nor has any client ever reported issues with the coins we’ve delivered.
Out of curiosity, do you use a third-party tool to do this analysis? Or do you have your own tool?
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You need to know that we primarily deliver XMR to our clients. In rare cases, we may provide BTC or other cryptocurrencies, but these are always AML checked and carry a low AML risk. At no point we have ever stated that we deliver "toxic" coins, nor has any client ever reported issues with the coins we’ve delivered.
Out of curiosity, do you use a third-party tool to do this analysis? Or do you have your own tool? Hi @joker_josue We use couple different tools, not free versions and not our own.
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You need to know that we primarily deliver XMR to our clients. In rare cases, we may provide BTC or other cryptocurrencies, but these are always AML checked and carry a low AML risk. At no point we have ever stated that we deliver "toxic" coins, nor has any client ever reported issues with the coins we’ve delivered.
Out of curiosity, do you use a third-party tool to do this analysis? Or do you have your own tool? We use couple different tools, not free versions and not our own. Hello Trêvoid. I have 2 questions here. I 've used your service quite a lot, I 've posted feedback about it and I still believe you 're doing your job perfectly, but I 'd like to know the following two things: 1. I am sure that as a company (service provider), you must have a much larger audience providing low AML risk coins, but don't you think it 'd be better to educate and teach people that AML is an anti-bitcoin narrative? You 'll say the obvious that I 'm an idealist, because at the end of the day if someone's coins are locked because of the AML check, it will be much worse, and it's true, but you get my point. 2. Are you in a position to estimate what percentage of each coin/token you give to your customers? I am curious to know the market share approximately.
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You need to know that we primarily deliver XMR to our clients. In rare cases, we may provide BTC or other cryptocurrencies, but these are always AML checked and carry a low AML risk. At no point we have ever stated that we deliver "toxic" coins, nor has any client ever reported issues with the coins we’ve delivered.
Out of curiosity, do you use a third-party tool to do this analysis? Or do you have your own tool? We use couple different tools, not free versions and not our own. Hello Trêvoid. I have 2 questions here. I 've used your service quite a lot, I 've posted feedback about it and I still believe you 're doing your job perfectly, but I 'd like to know the following two things: 1. I am sure that as a company (service provider), you must have a much larger audience providing low AML risk coins, but don't you think it 'd be better to educate and teach people that AML is an anti-bitcoin narrative? You 'll say the obvious that I 'm an idealist, because at the end of the day if someone's coins are locked because of the AML check, it will be much worse, and it's true, but you get my point. 2. Are you in a position to estimate what percentage of each coin/token you give to your customers? I am curious to know the market share approximately. Hi @apogio Thank you for your feedback... We look forward to assisting you with future coin swaps  Regarding your question, it can be quite challenging for us to educate every user individually. Because even if you have 100% legal and clean funds those scammers selectively froze your funds I always do my best to warn everyone, but when it comes to AML risk checks, selective scammers still manage to deceive users with false claims or questionable “risk” reasons, KYC demans without sense and so on... The best advice we can give to users is to avoid interacting with such services altogether. Sorry about the second question, I didn’t quite understand. Did you mean our reserve?
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August 27, 2025, 05:47:35 PM |
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2. Are you in a position to estimate what percentage of each coin/token you give to your customers? I am curious to know the market share approximately.
Sorry about the second question, I didn’t quite understand. Did you mean our reserve? I believe he might be asking about your volume data and maybe reserves as well. For example, in the last year: 1 btc exchange in BTC/XMR pair, 1 eth eexchange in btc/eth pair. Available reserves: 10 xmr and 1 btc and 1 eth. If you have such data easily available, I could create some kind of api for it, and make a something like the image below which would be always updated: 
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